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Hi all
Today I was playing around with some new music players and it seems my hero can get very laggy when playing back music and doing other tasks at the same time (not always, but especially when the phone is just woken up).
I decided to have a gander at top to check cpu usage and load averages. The cpu usage was hovering only at 10-20% yet the load averages were always at a minimum of ~5.5, which sounds pretty nasty.
I decided to see what they where after the phone had been sleeping a while, so I checked using "uptime" several hours later instantly after bringing it out of sleep. I was shocked to see 164/131/66. These seem completely insane.
So:
Are load averages broken in the kernel, is my phone broken or am I missing something?
I suspect it may have something to do with the way it records uptime (system time awake only)?
21:30:30 up 8:49, load average: 131.45, 185.11, 161.56
would be interesting to know how this works. i'm gonna set up a script that pulls this all day and logs it to a file, just for fun.
kendong2 said:
21:30:30 up 8:49, load average: 131.45, 185.11, 161.56
would be interesting to know how this works. i'm gonna set up a script that pulls this all day and logs it to a file, just for fun.
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Current time; how long the system has been running; system load averages for the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes...
131 is very hi!!
bourdagespl said:
Current time; how long the system has been running; system load averages for the past 1, 5, and 15 minutes...
131 is very hi!!
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lol sry, i know what the "uptime" command does, just want to know how the load avg thing works on the hero. afaik a load of > 100 would result in an totally unresponsive device. and having the phone idling for several hours should not produce a load avg of 131...
kendong2 said:
lol sry, i know what the "uptime" command does, just want to know how the load avg thing works on the hero. afaik a load of > 100 would result in an totally unresponsive device. and having the phone idling for several hours should not produce a load avg of 131...
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Oh Sorry for my misunderstanding!! English isn't my first language,, just want to help!
no problem, this was actually my fault, i should have stated it correctly. i watched the uptime over night, but before that i did a reboot, load avg didn't leave the range of 4 to 6... no real information there i guess, looks like android has f*cked up the load avg "system"...
So, when i lock my phone, and when i try to wake up to unlock, it is really really slow sometimes (up to 10-15 seconds even)..
Is there any way to prevent this ( to decrease that wake up time ) ?
p.s. My phone wm and android roms, radio and kernel is shown in my signature
Cheers ppl and thanks in advance,
Laynee
The 'smartass' scaling defaults to 245mhz when the screens off.... Disable the smartass, then bump the frequency up when the screens off !
Ok, first of all thanks for swift and fast response..
Second, from your reply, it seems like i have to install setCpu, and do that in it? What freq to put when screen is off? Because last time i got those profiles set up in setCpu ( before i uninstalled it), they didnt work..
And last, will it affect my battery drainage alot ?
p.s. One more question ( i know im annoying ) : I got really slow download speed when downloading from Market.. any cure ?
Huh, nor smartass nor underclocking in standby is respondible for slow wake up (well, maybe for a split second but definitely not the 10-15 seconds OP is talking about).
I haven't found any solution for this yet, but actually once you learn to only lock your phone when you know you won't be needing it the next 30 seconds, your problems are gone. (Unless you're using an old build/kernel, in that case you should just upgrade. New builds only lockup if you unlock shortly after locking.)
Slow market downloads is due to your sd card apparently. Either try with another one, or unmount SD card before starting the download.
i always find using the 'pick up' key wakes the phone in less then 3 secs everytime for me
I'm my experience wake lag is caused by corruption of the SD card. It happens more often when I try to use higher class cards than the stock one. What always fixes it for me is running checkdisk in windows. It usually finds errors and after it fixes them and I reboot I get no wake lag for a while. Errors happen a lot less often for me when I stick to stock sandisk class 2 card. Hope this works for you.
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I found this recently on Desire HD, it takes 3-5 seconds to wake up (not using setcpu)
I am using cedesmith desire hd2 (beta) rom with 2.14.50_2 radio and energy (13-nov) winmo.
Most desire builds are ok (less than 1 sec )
Hope to fix this ASAP
iDev
The most you can do is try another microSD card, but the reality is that this is device-dependent. You've just been unlucky to get an HD2 that is slow to wake up.
I know this because I had an HD2 before which took around 5-10 seconds to wake up all the time. After I broke it, my insurance company replaced it.
My new HD2 wakes up instantly almost always.
Well i forgot to mention one thing :
The slow wake up problem is not happening every time i try to unlock phone(its not that much often but when it happends im pissed off).
When it happends, buttons and screen are up, but screen is blank for 7-10 ( not 15 seconds i overreacted )..
So any help now ?
Laynee1 said:
Well i forgot to mention one thing :
The slow wake up problem is not happening every time i try to unlock phone(its not that much often but when it happends im pissed off).
When it happends, buttons and screen are up, but screen is blank for 7-10 ( not 15 seconds i overreacted )..
So any help now ?
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hmmm my screen is only ever delayed by around 3 or 4 seconds e.g. when in the middle of installing software.
Only thing that might help is, as before, trying another microSD card or a different ROM/kernel.
The one I'm on is Mdeejay Clean Sense with hastarin 8.5.1. Try that and see if it's any better. If not, its either your microSD card or just your phone.
pkchips said:
hmmm my screen is only ever delayed by around 3 or 4 seconds e.g. when in the middle of installing software.
Only thing that might help is, as before, trying another microSD card or a different ROM/kernel.
The one I'm on is Mdeejay Clean Sense with hastarin 8.5.1. Try that and see if it's any better. If not, its either your microSD card or just your phone.
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Thanks dude Ill try and see whats happening.. Tell me, in mdeejay clean sense rom, do u have those cool fold and flying animations when going back or closing smt?
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Thanks dude Ill try and see whats happening.. Tell me, in mdeejay clean sense rom, do u have those cool fold and flying animations when going back or closing smt?
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Nope. It doesn't
try formating your sd card delete any partition keep the whole card FAT32 and use a RAM build my lag is so much better by doing this
Mine takes 2 mins & 30 seconds.
Starting count during vibration when initially powering on, through the splash screen & boot animation, ending count when the lock screen comes on.
How long does it take yours?
HD87 said:
Mine takes 2 mins & 30 seconds.
Starting count during vibration when initially powering on, through the splash screen & boot animation, ending count when the lock screen comes on.
How long does it take yours?
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Wow really that long? I just tested it. It was exactly 1 minute from power up to lock screen.
humm .I have never turned.mine off other then going into recovery. So no big deal to me.guessna minute or so
It was exactly 1 minute
42.39 seconds timed with the stopwatch on my phone, vibrate to unlock screen.
To the OP, I'm not sure it should take 2 minutes too boot?!?!?
Yeah thats why I posted this thread.. Im running custom 3.2, richardtrips 3.4 kernel, got bout 1 gig of space left on the internal SD card.. What can cause the boot time to be so long?
HD87 said:
Yeah thats why I posted this thread.. Im running custom 3.2, richardtrips 3.4 kernel, got bout 1 gig of space left on the internal SD card.. What can cause the boot time to be so long?
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1Gb space left?!?!? What the heck do you have on your tab. I've got tons of apps and have 11.59Gb free.
If a lot of it is music, movies, etc., you might want to store them on your external? Just a suggestion.
Boot up with same set up
Running the Taboonay 2.0 (Android 3.2) and richardtrips 3.4 kernel. Get to the lock screen in 52 seconds. Have 9.51 GB of space left. Maybe not the same ROM. Which custom 3.2?
I have a similar issue, mine takes more than 2 minutes and using stock 3.2 ROM, no mods or anything. Does anybody think his can be caused by an installed app?
I have the same issue, with about 2gb free... Doesn't really bother me though
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sensei22 said:
I have a similar issue, mine takes more than 2 minutes and using stock 3.2 ROM, no mods or anything. Does anybody think his can be caused by an installed app?
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All the bloatware that comes installed stock on the tab slows it down considerably. What many custom roms do is rip out a lot of the bloatware so there are less running services, which means both a smoother experience while turned on, and faster start-up/shutdown times. Which is why you see some people getting sub-1 minute boots.
@op, what custom rom are you using? You stated that you're using a custom kernal, but if it's not made for the rom you're using, then you can run into problems, a longer boot time more than likely being one of them.
Yes, you are starting something that is causing your problem. However, I would suspect it's something outside the normal apk applications. Normal apk applications are forced to timeout after so many seconds and killed by the engine. So, something taking too long to load normally is killed and you are shown an error about the program. Since you're not mentioning seeing errors, I would suspect an application outside the normal user interface. Just a guess.
In the past, I've seen this were the Linux kernel is trying to init hardware you don't have which waits for a timeout to occur.
Recently I updated my device but It took 23 minutes to boot (First Boot) !! It was 12:21 AM and It finished booting at 12:44 AM !! Is it normal or there's something wrong ??
I suggest full wipe ...
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It's normal, it's rebuilding the Davlik cache. The more content and apps you have installed, the longer it will take.
It's a once only thing (at least until the OS changes, and then it may rebuild it again)
Yeah it's normal it happened to me the first time i put revolver on. Trust me I was freaking out
That's why it is recommended to always have full charge or AC adapter connected. Writing flash uses battery.
Thanks for sharing. I would've force rebooted it. Now I now I shouldn't!
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this is my most hated thing about the EeePad - even if it's not the first boot, it takes ages. I hope CM9 and/or the ICS update fixes it.
unfnknblvbl said:
this is my most hated thing about the EeePad - even if it's not the first boot, it takes ages. I hope CM9 and/or the ICS update fixes it.
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It's an Android thing, and unlikely to change. It's compiling and optimizing apps so they launch quicker. Without it, things will be very pedestrian.
unfnknblvbl said:
this is my most hated thing about the EeePad - even if it's not the first boot, it takes ages. I hope CM9 and/or the ICS update fixes it.
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Still much faster than a simple? itunes update.
CrazyPeter said:
It's an Android thing, and unlikely to change. It's compiling and optimizing apps so they launch quicker. Without it, things will be very pedestrian.
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Yeah, but it does it on every reboot. My eeePad takes about 5 minutes to boot even if it's not the first boot. We used to have this problem back in the days of Android 1.x, but the CM team managed to find a workaround for CM7. Some manufacturers have included a similar workaround (HTC's 'quick boot' function on the Sensation comes to mind), but obviously not Asus. Hence my hope that CM9 and/or the Asus 4.0 update fix things
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Yeah, but it does it on every reboot. My eeePad takes about 5 minutes to boot even if it's not the first boot. We used to have this problem back in the days of Android 1.x, but the CM team managed to find a workaround for CM7. Some manufacturers have included a similar workaround (HTC's 'quick boot' function on the Sensation comes to mind), but obviously not Asus. Hence my hope that CM9 and/or the Asus 4.0 update fix things
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Then something is not right.
After a ROM install, mine takes about 10 minutes or so to boot, but it's once only. After than, it's int he region of 10 - 15 seconds from a cold boot to a working desktop.
CrazyPeter said:
Then something is not right.
After a ROM install, mine takes about 10 minutes or so to boot, but it's once only. After than, it's int he region of 10 - 15 seconds from a cold boot to a working desktop.
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10 - 15 seconds, I'd love to see that, I get about 1 - 2 minutes average boot time rooted running revolver.
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mine takes about 20 seconds to boot from off to desktop
I use Android Revolution HD 2.3.0
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10 - 15 seconds, I'd love to see that, I get about 1 - 2 minutes average boot time rooted running revolver.
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Mine is stock but rooted.
And it's 20 seconds at the most from off to desktop.
To the person that said its an android thing- completely false. Zip aligned, number of apps etc. All factor. My transformer (rooted with latest revolver) boots within minutes if not seconds. After installing my backup of 100+ apps is when I get over 8 minutes.
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My Average boot time is 10 minutes....
theraffman said:
10 - 15 seconds, I'd love to see that, I get about 1 - 2 minutes average boot time rooted running revolver.
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I do not believe anybody's TF101 tablet starts up in 10-15 seconds. It's not even close to being ready to start at that point on stock, unrooted Honeycomb 3.2 firmware. Just tested my own tablet, which is close to as lightly-loaded on startup as you can get:
Slightly less than one second from the backlight turning on to the Asus logo appearing
Nine seconds from the backlight turning on to the "loading" circle animation appearing
77 seconds from the backlight turning on to the desktop appearing
90 seconds from the backlight turning on to my desktop widget being started up (ie. battery indication appears)
My desktop uses ADWLauncher EX, and has only one screen, one widget (TF battery widget), and the stock Asus (non-live) wallpaper. There is literally nothing else on the desktop, not even a single app icon.
My tablet has the following running at startup (bold are non-stock items):
* Lookout (2 processes, 1 service)
* Facebook (1 process, 1 service)
* TF battery widget (1 process, 1 service)
* com.asus.keyboard (1 process, 1 service)
* DMClient (1 process, 1 service)
* Google Services (1 process, 3 services)
* Maps (1 process, 1 service)
* MyNet (1 process, 2 services)
* Android keyboard (1 process, 1 service)
To those claiming their tablet boots in twenty seconds on stock firmware, I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. Post a video if you want to change my mind. My tablet couldn't start in twenty seconds (or even anything close to it), stock and straight out of the box without a single application installed.
Mine takes about 1 min on rooted stock 8.6.6.19
I *think* it is now longer than before, probably due to the amount of apps and widgets installed compared to before (although I try to keep as least as possible)
I have video to prove it, but I think it's a pretty normal time.
Will wipe and try revolver soon though!
Edit: it's a B70 SBK2
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knoxploration said:
I do not believe anybody's TF101 tablet starts up in 10-15 seconds. It's not even close to being ready to start at that point on stock, unrooted Honeycomb 3.2 firmware. Just tested my own tablet, which is close to as lightly-loaded on startup as you can get:
Slightly less than one second from the backlight turning on to the Asus logo appearing
Nine seconds from the backlight turning on to the "loading" circle animation appearing
77 seconds from the backlight turning on to the desktop appearing
90 seconds from the backlight turning on to my desktop widget being started up (ie. battery indication appears)
My desktop uses ADWLauncher EX, and has only one screen, one widget (TF battery widget), and the stock Asus (non-live) wallpaper. There is literally nothing else on the desktop, not even a single app icon.
My tablet has the following running at startup (bold are non-stock items):
* Lookout (2 processes, 1 service)
* Facebook (1 process, 1 service)
* TF battery widget (1 process, 1 service)
* com.asus.keyboard (1 process, 1 service)
* DMClient (1 process, 1 service)
* Google Services (1 process, 3 services)
* Maps (1 process, 1 service)
* MyNet (1 process, 2 services)
* Android keyboard (1 process, 1 service)
To those claiming their tablet boots in twenty seconds on stock firmware, I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. Post a video if you want to change my mind. My tablet couldn't start in twenty seconds (or even anything close to it), stock and straight out of the box without a single application installed.
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Yeah, agree with you, mine takes about 1 min to show the desktop from cold boot and even from start with stock and no apps it took about this time.
fliparsenal said:
To the person that said its an android thing- completely false. Zip aligned, number of apps etc. All factor. My transformer (rooted with latest revolver) boots within minutes if not seconds. After installing my backup of 100+ apps is when I get over 8 minutes.
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so 3:30 - 4:00 minutes boot time with 200+ user apps is normal?
In this guide I will show you how to speed up Windows 8 Boot time, disabling unnecessary applications
Whats need
-Ccleaner latest version
-PC with Windows 8 :fingers-crossed:
Step 1
-run the program RUN.exe and then we write MSCONFIG and Enter
Step 2
-On the program go to the Services and click Hide all Microsoft services, now stopped some services that not need example: AMD, Google update, Hamachi, utility from manufacturer,Skype updater
Step 3
-Now go to Task Manager, go to startup and disable the unnecessary apps example:Utorrent, apps from manufacturer, Skype, Java
Step 4
-Go to Ccleaner, click Tools and go to Startup and disable apps from Windows-unnecessary, IE-all, Contex menu-all,Scheduled Task.all
Step 5
-Restart the PC and after off and on PC
Boot time
My boot time:
Before: 38 seconds
After: 8 seconds
energymix said:
My boot time:
Before: 38 seconds
After: 8 seconds
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I find it rather impossible to believe that your windows 8 pc took a whopping 38 seconds to boot.....I may be wrong but I believe that Windows's new system of hibernating the kernel session drastically reduces the boot time to less than 12 seconds.,,38 seconds and 8 seconds sounds like the difference between a windows 7 and windows 8 boot times rather than 2 windows 8 boot times.
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I find it rather impossible to believe that your windows 8 pc took a whopping 38 seconds to boot.....I may be wrong but I believe that Windows's new system of hibernating the kernel session drastically reduces the boot time to less than 12 seconds.,,38 seconds and 8 seconds sounds like the difference between a windows 7 and windows 8 boot times rather than 2 windows 8 boot times.
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I really booted 38-45 seconds because the application is very delayed, but sometimes I booted 8-13 seconds
Yeah... your 38 seconds was a cold boot, your 8 seconds was a hibernation boot. In any case, disabling services and the like doesn't really impact the boot time at all. It may change how long after login before the system becomes responsive, and it can definitely change how much system resources are being used in the background, but the only software ways to reduce the boot time (short of something like hibernation boot) would require removing drivers (as each one of those takes a brief moment to initialize) or using bootloader settings (and most of those are more likely to slow boot times down than speed them up).
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Yeah... your 38 seconds was a cold boot, your 8 seconds was a hibernation boot. In any case, disabling services and the like doesn't really impact the boot time at all. It may change how long after login before the system becomes responsive, and it can definitely change how much system resources are being used in the background, but the only software ways to reduce the boot time (short of something like hibernation boot) would require removing drivers (as each one of those takes a brief moment to initialize) or using bootloader settings (and most of those are more likely to slow boot times down than speed them up).
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Exactly.So the name of the guide should be changed to how to impact login times
well even on hibernation boot I need around 30 seconds (but 10 seconds of that contributes to my old BIOS) lol
My new record: 13 seconds. Cold boot. Doesn't get much better than that
Even a layman would know that disabling startup applications can speed up boot time.
Except they don't... Startup apps don't run until the system is already booted, so by definition they cannot impact boot time. On I/O constrained or single-core systems, they make the system essentially unresponsive for some time after bootup, but for something like the Surface RT (4 cores, Flash storage so very wide IO bandwidth) their impact will be minimal.
Hi guys,
I had a question.. My windows 8 used to boot really fast at the beginning on my PC.. But now its taking time.. Almost as much as windows 7 used to take, even during shutdown.. I've actually disabled hibernation function using tune up utilities.. Would this effect booting speed?
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kishankpadiyar said:
Hi guys,
I had a question.. My windows 8 used to boot really fast at the beginning on my PC.. But now its taking time.. Almost as much as windows 7 used to take, even during shutdown.. I've actually disabled hibernation function using tune up utilities.. Would this effect booting speed?
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How many apps have you installed?
karan128 said:
How many apps have you installed?
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not much.. 2-3 games and few common apps like vlc, firefox n all those.. no apps from stores..
Disabling Hibernation will not speed up your boot time - quite the opposite, in fact (Win8 likes to do a "hibernation shutdown" where it restarts the computer then immediately enters hibernate, which makes the subsequent bootup very fast). It will have no impact at all on restart time, either (at least, nothing meaningful - possibly a few milliseconds at worst). Hibernate shutdown does indeed take longer (substantially so), but why do you care?
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Disabling Hibernation will not speed up your boot time - quite the opposite, in fact (Win8 likes to do a "hibernation shutdown" where it restarts the computer then immediately enters hibernate, which makes the subsequent bootup very fast). It will have no impact at all on restart time, either (at least, nothing meaningful - possibly a few milliseconds at worst). Hibernate shutdown does indeed take longer (substantially so), but why do you care?
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oh okay.. i also wanted to know this.. Sometimes when i keep my system on standby (which i always do), my system wakes up by itself.. then when its not attended for some time it goes to sleep again.. then again in 2 min it repeats.. why is this happening..?
kishankpadiyar said:
oh okay.. i also wanted to know this.. Sometimes when i keep my system on standby (which i always do), my system wakes up by itself.. then when its not attended for some time it goes to sleep again.. then again in 2 min it repeats.. why is this happening..?
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THis may be happening due to scheduled tasks--
Open cmd and execute this code
powercfg /waketimers
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see if any task is scheduled to run while pc is on standby..
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THis may be happening due to scheduled tasks--
Open cmd and execute this code see if any task is scheduled to run while pc is on standby..
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it shows this.. what does it mean..?
PIC: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d3d0cm1ohf5f1hl/cmd.png
kishankpadiyar said:
it shows this.. what does it mean..?
PIC: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d3d0cm1ohf5f1hl/cmd.png
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Go to "scheduled" task manager and disable that service.(whatever it is, I am not able to see it clearly on my mobile)
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Windows 8 loads up extremely fast! And I dont think disabling startup apps and services is not necessary, i came across this post, see if it helps you
http://www.computingunleashed.com/speed-up-windows-8-pro.html
my acer S3 ultrabook was using a Seagate 350GB and the boot was super crapy.... I removed the hdd and slot in a Kingston hyper X3 SSD...
my boot time is 7second flat from zero to hero..
best windows OS ever..
my windows surface RT is slowing down a bit after I loaded so many app on it...