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Mine seem to do this everytime I reboot. As well as media scanner. What is all this??
I don't know but I am getting
the time auto update thing about every five minutes while I am watching Avatar. Pretty annoying.
Yeah, it does it on boot, but never after that.
Mine has only started the auto-update of time and date thing since applying the GPS 'fix'. It has slowed my boot time from mere seconds to ~1min, accompanied by low FPS (~1-5 max) until the tests are all complete.
Jon C said:
Mine has only started the auto-update of time and date thing since applying the GPS 'fix'. It has slowed my boot time from mere seconds to ~1min, accompanied by low FPS (~1-5 max) until the tests are all complete.
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mine does what you describe, the whole process do take about a min now from power on to usable state. But the thing is, It was doing this way before the GPS Fix. Im not exactly sure but it might have to do with the amount of programs installed in our phone.
My phone's been doing the choppy thing since I added 10gb of music and all my standard apps. It's because it has to register so much data, not because the GPS is pinging a different server. That's like filling up your car's gas tank, getting a flat and blaming the flat on bad gas.
Wrong thread sorry...moderators please delete my post...thanks
Sorry, not sure if this is int he right section but from the 1000+ hours i have used on this forum i decided to create my own post. Battery life on Android seems to be the evil culprit of MANY, i have finally found the BEST combo for battery life.
I have tried about 90% of the radios and android builds out there and this by far is the BEST. FIRST i wanna thank ALL developers, mods, beta testers and commenter's because without you all, this would not be possible(Android on the HD2)
My CURRENT setup(which i will probably leave on forever since its set now)
US Tmobile HD2
- Radio 2.12 (the latest one)
-Rom: Elegencia Rom (GTX version) --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651729 So i dont get the robot voice anymore
- Android Rom ---> ▐HYBRID▐07.09.2010▐warrenb213 CM6 9/6-V1.5a T-Mo US Optimized▐ Kernel:mitchyprima r10▐ RMNET version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775150
- Special Settings in Windows Mobile: Turn off Auto backlight in windows mobile, turned of sync, weather, facebook, all that stuff that may secretly be on by default in windows mobile.
- Special settings in Android: Note: i turned OFF Auto sync for GMAIL email( since the FREE app called K-9 mail has MUCH better push email which uses much less battery than gmail's auto sync), no gps(sometimes wireless network location is used), no facebook sync, weather or news sync. You can set to whatever set cpu settings or sync settings you prefer, im just letting you know my configuration, the main thing to FOCUS on is the RADIO, the ROM(s) the Set cpu SCREEN off settings and the task killer settings.
1. Installed Set Cpu (Free to download on xda but i paid for the donate version to support the dev)
2. Set Cpu settings are in the PHOTO BELOW but as a recap
a. Click Autodetect
b. On MAIN tab, i set the max processor speed to about 652800 and the min to 245000, CONSERVATIVE SCALING, click SET ON BOOT
c. on PROFILES TAB, I added THREE profiles bt only ONE is necessary to get better battery life: SCREEN OFF profile, 384 max and 245 min, priority 100! POWERSAVE scaling
d. click on advanced tab, all the settings should be default, mines are
Sampling rate 200000, Upthreshold 80, down thresh 20, Ignore Nice load 0 and Freq Step 5, click APPLY and SET ON BOOT.
I also installed advanced task killer, not sure if it helps but my battery has been great since. Settings on there:
AUTO START checked, Show notification checked, Auto Kill Level: SAFE, AutoKill frequency when SCREEN OFF, Security level HIGH. OF COURSE you will have to put various apps on IGNORE so task killer doesnt kill them when the screen is off, so far i have ignored: App Brain, Advanced Task Killer(MAKE SURE TO PUT THIS ON IGNORE OR ELSE IT WONT WORK BECAUSE IT WILL KILL ITSELF lol), SetCPU, SUPERUSER, Google search, ad free, k9 mail and battery indicator pro.
All on ignore so they dont get killed, and i noticed ALOT of people use task killer but forget to put superuser, setcpu and advanced task killer on the ignore list so they may be getting closed out sometimes, which will make them ineffective for you.
Im in Chicago, my data has got up to about 1.5mb down with this rom, FASTEST speed i got yet! As you can see from the picture, I took my phone Off the wall charger around NOON YESTERDAY, it was on 100%, played word feud all day basically, browsed the web and tweeted, couldn't do much since i worked a 12hours shift but by 10pm when i left the office, i STILL had 88% battery left, used the device more when i got off, played angry birds, texted, tweeted, talked to a few people, fell asleep without charging and got scared that it would be dead, but i wake up at 9am...... STILL 68% i played more games, texted and tweeted, now im at 63% and its going on NOON again, so 24hrs decent amount of phone use and im at 63%, thats CRAZY!
My data is on H and 3g, DOES not turn off when the screen is off, i still get my WordFeud push notifications and K9 mail email PUSH when i get new ones(that also helped ALOT when i turned off the gmail push, and downloaded K9 mail, its FREE, has integrated inbox and is the BEST email app out there that ses the LEAST battery to have TRUE push notifications when people send an email to me.
Hope this helps you all, Give my combo a try, let me know your results, but so far this battery has lasted a full 24 hours and is not even HALF dead with moderate use.
side mentions:
NO BSOD
NO FREEZES
FAST DATA
WIFI TETHER WORKS
USB DATA WORKS
CAMERA WORKS
Every damn thing works lol thats what im trying to say. even if it has minor bugs which i have not seen yet, this setup and speed with battery life is the BEST, i dont even wanna risk something going wrong so i may leave this as my PERMANENT configuration.
*Edit* before you post saying the speed is slow, TRY IT OUT, Try the android ROM i posted with the set cpu settings i posted, and you will SEE for yourself* I tried the same settings on other android roms but they were just not good since battery was bad and data speed was bad so try that SPECIFIC ROM, see how you like it.
Thanks for the detailed info hakeem, I'm in Chicago too so I can use your exact configuration which is awesome.
Are you using PPP or RMNET build?
Which version of Miri rom? GTX/Max/CHT? Did you see Miri released a new Android launch Rom, here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778398. Wonder if that would give similar results with a quicker launch and more memory?
well considering you set the cpu to 1/2 what it's capable of, I'm not surprised you're getting longer battery life. At 600 mhz it runs like my Nokia N97; very poorly.
I've tried those settings before (minus the 600 mhz max) and they don't really give me much, if any real savings. I still get about 4 hours of heavy use or 8 hours of moderate. Not great but manageable.
I use Shubcraft 1.5 with 31 aug zImage on chuckydroid rom. It's the only setup that actually works for me. Data is intermittently flaky but it gets me 2000-3000++ kbps.
The only thing I would like to really have fixed is the G sensor and slightly more reliable data.
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well considering you set the cpu to 1/2 what it's capable of, I'm not surprised you're getting longer battery life. At 600 mhz it runs like my Nokia N97; very poorly.
I've tried those settings before (minus the 600 mhz max) and they don't really give me much, if any real savings. I still get about 4 hours of heavy use or 8 hours of moderate. Not great but manageable.
I use Shubcraft 1.5 with 31 aug zImage on chuckydroid rom. It's the only setup that actually works for me. Data is intermittently flaky but it gets me 2000-3000++ kbps.
The only thing I would like to really have fixed is the G sensor and slightly more reliable data.
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Try HyperDroid, Pongster just updated it. It's very similar to Shubcraft but I have the Gsensor on (and using it frequently) without a single screen freeze. Data has been solid and quick. I didn't like the Hi-res small image/text look that was built in but it was an easy fix to get that back to normal size, now the build looks and runs perfect.
Personally I like Sense, mainly for the email and agenda widgets, but the stock froyo builds are a lot more stable so I think I'm gonna stick with it for now.
"Sorry, not sure if this is int he right section but".....then why did you post it here instead of general section but thats your choice , second i would rather deal with a screen freeze here or there , than turn off auto sync and third that is really slowing your phone down with those setcpu settings , i agree with ounkeo thats half the phone speed...
but thanks any way
Thank you! I will follow your suggestion and feedback later.
Hey Im Chicago too!!! Well the burbs actually...
I solved my wake up issues by using setcpu and setting a profile for screen off 798 max 499 min scalingn demand and priority to 100
I know it high but from what I remember with the G1 and setcpu if you underclocked it it would freeze up. So thats what Im assuming with this as well. If its underclocked it will become non responsive eventually. I could be wrong but it my persoanl opinion and preference.
Well, you got lucky with 3-10ma on standby, so your battery doesn't suck. Try few reboots and come back with the same numbers - GL on that.
So far I've tried every trick to get the magic 3-10ma on standby, and sometimes I get it, sometimes i don't. Simple reboot screws it up, and when it goes up to ~60, goodbye every-day use of android
why bother ?
Might as well get a crap monochrome nokia then youll get 5+ days of battery life.
all you guys are doing is turning a smart phone into a dumb phone.
Do you have any issues with the internet on this setup?It seems on my set up the data indicator alternates between h and 3g all the time and can use any internet radio apps since it interrupts every few minutes.Also call quality would like to be a little louder.I have the stock radio 2.10.50.26,chuck rom lite for android and the latest 2.2 froyo stone 1.7.
Can anybody tell me what changes should i make ????
kardas666 said:
Well, you got lucky with 3-10ma on standby, so your battery doesn't suck. Try few reboots and come back with the same numbers - GL on that.
So far I've tried every trick to get the magic 3-10ma on standby, and sometimes I get it, sometimes i don't. Simple reboot screws it up, and when it goes up to ~60, goodbye every-day use of android
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I am using shubcrafts 1.5 rmnet I get between 3-10ma while sleep. I wont except anything else. If i get the dreaded 40-60ma's I reset and I dont restart one its in the groove.
I noticed when I had the engadget widget going I would see 41ma in sleep mode.
I dont use auto sync because I can sync when I'm good and ready. I also dont turn off 3g anymore It isnt needed.
As far as the op's settings I think they are ok for him, I constantly clock my cpu at 768 as I have found it is responsive enough for me. I also use ondemand with a powersave bias of 500.
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I also installed advanced task killer, not sure if it helps but my battery has been great since. Settings on there:
AUTO START checked, Show notification checked, Auto Kill Level: SAFE, AutoKill frequency when SCREEN OFF, Security level HIGH. OF COURSE you will have to put various apps on IGNORE so task killer doesnt kill them when the screen is off, so far i have ignored: App Brain, Advanced Task Killer(MAKE SURE TO PUT THIS ON IGNORE OR ELSE IT WONT WORK BECAUSE IT WILL KILL ITSELF lol), SetCPU, SUPERUSER, Google search, ad free, k9 mail and battery indicator pro.
All on ignore so they dont get killed, and i noticed ALOT of people use task killer but forget to put superuser, setcpu and advanced task killer on the ignore list so they may be getting closed out sometimes, which will make them ineffective for you.
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Would someone please tell me how the f**k I could put apps o IGNORE?
the other battery thread found that having your keypad lights on before you boot into android and your sd card also impact heavily on your battery life.
vysus said:
Would someone please tell me how the f**k I could put apps o IGNORE?
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when in the task killer app just hold down on the selected app to bring up menu
Thanx my friend
Good effort posting your findings, I'm sure it will help a lot of people...
I've played with SetCPU for a while trying a few things and found this setup to be the best for me:
I use the undervolted kernel from here.
I use SetCPU as follows:
Main Page
Max: 1113600
Min: 245000
Scaling: Interactive
Set on boot enabled
Profiles
Enable and Notifications checked
Screen off
max: 245000
min: 245000
scaling: interactive
Priority: 100
Charging/Full
max: 111300
min: 245000
scaling: interactive
Priority: 50
Battery < 25%
max: 652000
min: 245000
scaling: interactive
Priority: 50
Advanced tab
Min Sample Rate: 50000
I also have Autokiller installed with moderate settings. Remove all other task killer apps, including Advanced Task Killer...more info why HERE.
I use APNdroid to disable data connection when I'm not using it. But have wifi on all day.
kardas666 said:
Well, you got lucky with 3-10ma on standby, so your battery doesn't suck. Try few reboots and come back with the same numbers - GL on that.
So far I've tried every trick to get the magic 3-10ma on standby, and sometimes I get it, sometimes i don't. Simple reboot screws it up, and when it goes up to ~60, goodbye every-day use of android
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I can confirm that having the keypad lights ON when starting up Android from WinMo does definitely keep standby at 3-10ma. The other thing you need to do to keep that level of drain is to switch off GPS unless you're using it.
My speculation tells me that there must be something wrong/missing with the gps and keypad light libraries after the dev's modified it to work on the HD2.
Oh yeah and this is on Darkstone's HD2Froyo v2.1
Hakeem5 said:
- Special settings in Android: Note: i turned OFF Auto sync, no gps, no facebook sync, weather or news sync.
1. Installed Set Cpu (Free to download on xda but i paid for the donate version to support the dev)
2. Set Cpu settings are in the PHOTO BELOW but as a recap
a. Click Autodetect
b. On MAIN tab, i set the max . . . .
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nice try but with that "configuration" it would be better if i go back and use my
nokia of 4 years ago. thats no smartphone
Hakeem5 said:
Hakeem5 said:
- Special Settings in Windows Mobile: Turn off Auto backlight in windows mobile, turned of sync, weather, facebook, all that stuff that may secretly be on by default in windows mobile.
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thats a better idea, this worked for me thanks for sharing us your discovery
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kardas666 said:
Well, you got lucky with 3-10ma on standby, so your battery doesn't suck. Try few reboots and come back with the same numbers - GL on that.
So far I've tried every trick to get the magic 3-10ma on standby, and sometimes I get it, sometimes i don't. Simple reboot screws it up, and when it goes up to ~60, goodbye every-day use of android
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hey bud, i was having the same issue as you. However, i'm pleased to say that doing the following has given me a 3-10ma standby over the course of a week with multiple reboots (just to check if it would work again). I pulled this from the "possible solution for heavy battery drain thread"
"If you start Android don't use WM at all, use auto-boot on 6 sec with Exceller Multiple Build Loader for Android/Ubuntu if you want to use windows, use it but reboot the phone before you start android."
I'm using this with an Energy Rom, 2.10 radio, and warrenb213's t-mobile us optimized build. Works a treat, hope you have the same experience
Ps... Doesn't matter if setcpu is enabled or not, I still get 3-10ma on standby, remember if you have autosync enabled you will occasionally get a spike while the phone syncs.
hazard99 said:
I am using shubcrafts 1.5 rmnet I get between 3-10ma while sleep. I wont except anything else. If i get the dreaded 40-60ma's I reset and I dont restart one its in the groove.
I noticed when I had the engadget widget going I would see 41ma in sleep mode.
I dont use auto sync because I can sync when I'm good and ready. I also dont turn off 3g anymore It isnt needed.
As far as the op's settings I think they are ok for him, I constantly clock my cpu at 768 as I have found it is responsive enough for me. I also use ondemand with a powersave bias of 500.
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How can you see your power consumption in ma?
hi everyone,
i just wanna share my experience with my Samsung Galaxy S.
i have finally managed to keep the phone running with "normal phone usage" for more than 1 day
it is true that the multimedia features usage was to the minimum but still
2 Days, 16 hours and 43 minutes is an excellent number,
and still i have 15% remaining in the battery!!!
Check the screenshots below.
All what i have done is:
1- installed Voodoo lagfix
project-voodoo.org/download
2- installed Advanced Task Manager (ATM)
getandroidstuff.com/advanced-task-manager-android-download-v50/
And make sure to enable the Auto-End Running Apps features in ATM, i have used the 30 minutes frequency.
i am still unable to believe the difference that i got from this combination.
Voodoo has really fixed the lag issue and apps are running so smooth.
and with ATM installed the battery life has reached unbelievable numbers.
the installation for Voodoo was so easy and no complications, i have just used the update.zip file and it was so fast and easy.
check this yourself and tell me what you got from it.
cheers.
EDIT:
i forgot to mention that i am using ADW.Launcher instead of TWLauncher.
That's nice.
My record with light usage was 4.5 days.
In that particular case, I still had 50% after 3 days but made a lot of calls on day 4 so the battery went down quicker.
Key setting is to switch the phone to 2g when not needing 3g and also turn off the internet connection through the mobile provider and only use WIFI where available.
Very nice usage, but do you have push email active?
Congratulations abuatwan but i still think you could get longer from your battery. You say you have Advanced Task Manager running and set to start up every 30 minutes.
That costs power to start that up (as does any app) and when its killed whichever apps/processes its deemed to, if they start back up...well that's even more power lost lol
Android has its own task scheduler/killer built in and really all you are doing is battling your own system.
This will explain in much more detail, even if you don't understand everything mentioned read on and try to take in as much as possible.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
I do agree though that with the galaxy, something needs to be done as it does in a way run better with a task killer (not counting the battles and power costs)
I use a free program called Auto Killer Memory Optimizer which tweaks androids built in task killer meaning you use your system as it should be
I've had mine running on 'moderate' preset setting for 2 weeks now and i wouldn't dream of installing any other task killer
stickfinger said:
Congratulations abuatwan but i still think you could get longer from your battery. You say you have Advanced Task Manager running and set to start up every 30 minutes.
That costs power to start that up (as does any app) and when its killed whichever apps/processes its deemed to, if they start back up...well that's even more power lost lol
Android has its own task scheduler/killer built in and really all you are doing is battling your own system.
This will explain in much more detail, even if you don't understand everything mentioned read on and try to take in as much as possible.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
I do agree though that with the galaxy, something needs to be done as it does in a way run better with a task killer (not counting the battles and power costs)
I use a free program called Auto Killer Memory Optimizer which tweaks androids built in task killer meaning you use your system as it should be
I've had mine running on 'moderate' preset setting for 2 weeks now and i wouldn't dream of installing any other task killer
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The default setting for killing empty_app processes on Galaxy S is 48 MB. The moderate setting on autokiller is 40 MB, so you are actually *decreasing* the memory tolerance, making the memory management worse! I agree with you about the article, but with a strict setting you will see much better performance, try it.
My SGS keep 3 days max with normal use with disable the data connection with GSM and 3G
I do 2 days with browsing and stuff, seems my battery drains less quickly on wifi then it does with 3g or H =\ killing stuff with ATK is pretty handy as some stuff that i never use don't really mater to keep running in the background.
freakdahouse said:
Very nice usage, but do you have push email active?
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no, during this period i have turned it off, actually i have turned off the Auto-sync option.
i have played some games, used the browser (over Wi-fi) and used GPS but that was very minimal.
Tyxerakias said:
The default setting for killing empty_app processes on Galaxy S is 48 MB. The moderate setting on autokiller is 40 MB, so you are actually *decreasing* the memory tolerance, making the memory management worse! I agree with you about the article, but with a strict setting you will see much better performance, try it.
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great,
if i can just change the default likker setings, i believe that will save lot's of battery
Definitely i will install "Auto Killer Memory Optimizer" and will try both profiles, the moderate and the strict.
Thank you
I do get this with my normal usage, 2 days and some hours - can't remember exactly. I have wifi on constantly, 3g when outside, autosync and push always on, autobrightness, no task managers or lag fixes.. Just stock JM2 :]
I have never managed to get more than a day's usage out of my phone. Today my display has been on for 1h37m and the phone has been off the charger for 5.5 hours, my battery is down to 66%.
good luck, in 3 weeks or so you'll need to do a factory reset because the SGS software/file system is a P.O.S
lokhor said:
I have never managed to get more than a day's usage out of my phone. Today my display has been on for 1h37m and the phone has been off the charger for 5.5 hours, my battery is down to 66%.
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on a 2hr screen time from 100% my phone goes down to 75% or so..
Tyxerakias said:
The default setting for killing empty_app processes on Galaxy S is 48 MB. The moderate setting on autokiller is 40 MB, so you are actually *decreasing* the memory tolerance, making the memory management worse! I agree with you about the article, but with a strict setting you will see much better performance, try it.
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Ahh well that's new to me, Thank you Tyxerakias. I do wonder what else this app is tweaking then because using Super Manager memory widget i had noticed that i would get slight lag when swiping screens if the reported memory was showing around or below 70mb. The 70mb figure might be wrong as i use a lagfix but the point is that to me around 70mb showing = lag. After installing Auto Killer Memory Optimizer i would sometimes see as low as 50mb but still no lag. I got rid of the memory widget after that as it was just displaying useless info and taking up screen space.
I would be tempted to try the strict setting but my phone honestly flies on moderate and ive also heard if you set it too strict then it can end up killing off things like the clock which means your alarm will then fail.
ickyboo said:
good luck, in 3 weeks or so you'll need to do a factory reset because the SGS software/file system is a P.O.S
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why 3 weeks? are you referring to the Froyo update? and what is P.O.S?
Personally i wouldn't mind doing a factory reset if you ARE meaning for Froyo as flashing Froyo will reset it anyway...2 resets is no more loss than 1 reset if you are backed up and ready to flash
stickfinger said:
Ahh well that's new to me, Thank you Tyxerakias. I do wonder what else this app is tweaking then because using Super Manager memory widget i had noticed that i would get slight lag when swiping screens if the reported memory was showing around or below 70mb. The 70mb figure might be wrong as i use a lagfix but the point is that to me around 70mb showing = lag. After installing Auto Killer Memory Optimizer i would sometimes see as low as 50mb but still no lag. I got rid of the memory widget after that as it was just displaying useless info and taking up screen space.
I would be tempted to try the strict setting but my phone honestly flies on moderate and ive also heard if you set it too strict then it can end up killing off things like the clock which means your alarm will then fail.
why 3 weeks? are you referring to the Froyo update? and what is P.O.S?
Personally i wouldn't mind doing a factory reset if you ARE meaning for Froyo as flashing Froyo will reset it anyway...2 resets is no more loss than 1 reset if you are backed up and ready to flash
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loool
Seems he just says that its "Piece Of S##t"
while i don't think so
abuatwan said:
loool
Seems he just says that its "Piece Of S##t"
while i don't think so
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lol ahh i get it now, he means the file structure in the Galaxy. Samsung chose to use their own rather than a proper linux structure and i've seen many devs also saying how it was a very bad choice.
Well i've had mine for over 2 months now and no loss of data or anything yet so its fingers crossed here lol..........i will be backing important things up as a precaution too
Yes, that app is useful and i am confident you have noticed that
I don't use a task killer, they drain the battery.
I'm pretty sure you would get the same battery usage with screen on vs. screen on and movie playing. Playing a 2h movie drained my battery for 25%, screen on for 2h was about the same so...
I just use Juice Defender ultimate just to be able to select a few features:
- Activate Data/Wifi for 5min every 2h (would be better every 4/6hours but whatever...)
- Data / Wifi off when i sleep
- Leave data/Wifi on when the screen is on
Basically, my phone only syncs / uses data when my screen is on (or every 2h just to push emails if needed)
I noticed that this really really helped me. 3G and screen on really kill your battery
In this guide I will show you how to speed up Windows 8 Boot time, disabling unnecessary applications
Whats need
-Ccleaner latest version
-PC with Windows 8 :fingers-crossed:
Step 1
-run the program RUN.exe and then we write MSCONFIG and Enter
Step 2
-On the program go to the Services and click Hide all Microsoft services, now stopped some services that not need example: AMD, Google update, Hamachi, utility from manufacturer,Skype updater
Step 3
-Now go to Task Manager, go to startup and disable the unnecessary apps example:Utorrent, apps from manufacturer, Skype, Java
Step 4
-Go to Ccleaner, click Tools and go to Startup and disable apps from Windows-unnecessary, IE-all, Contex menu-all,Scheduled Task.all
Step 5
-Restart the PC and after off and on PC
Boot time
My boot time:
Before: 38 seconds
After: 8 seconds
energymix said:
My boot time:
Before: 38 seconds
After: 8 seconds
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I find it rather impossible to believe that your windows 8 pc took a whopping 38 seconds to boot.....I may be wrong but I believe that Windows's new system of hibernating the kernel session drastically reduces the boot time to less than 12 seconds.,,38 seconds and 8 seconds sounds like the difference between a windows 7 and windows 8 boot times rather than 2 windows 8 boot times.
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I find it rather impossible to believe that your windows 8 pc took a whopping 38 seconds to boot.....I may be wrong but I believe that Windows's new system of hibernating the kernel session drastically reduces the boot time to less than 12 seconds.,,38 seconds and 8 seconds sounds like the difference between a windows 7 and windows 8 boot times rather than 2 windows 8 boot times.
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I really booted 38-45 seconds because the application is very delayed, but sometimes I booted 8-13 seconds
Yeah... your 38 seconds was a cold boot, your 8 seconds was a hibernation boot. In any case, disabling services and the like doesn't really impact the boot time at all. It may change how long after login before the system becomes responsive, and it can definitely change how much system resources are being used in the background, but the only software ways to reduce the boot time (short of something like hibernation boot) would require removing drivers (as each one of those takes a brief moment to initialize) or using bootloader settings (and most of those are more likely to slow boot times down than speed them up).
GoodDayToDie said:
Yeah... your 38 seconds was a cold boot, your 8 seconds was a hibernation boot. In any case, disabling services and the like doesn't really impact the boot time at all. It may change how long after login before the system becomes responsive, and it can definitely change how much system resources are being used in the background, but the only software ways to reduce the boot time (short of something like hibernation boot) would require removing drivers (as each one of those takes a brief moment to initialize) or using bootloader settings (and most of those are more likely to slow boot times down than speed them up).
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Exactly.So the name of the guide should be changed to how to impact login times
well even on hibernation boot I need around 30 seconds (but 10 seconds of that contributes to my old BIOS) lol
My new record: 13 seconds. Cold boot. Doesn't get much better than that
Even a layman would know that disabling startup applications can speed up boot time.
Except they don't... Startup apps don't run until the system is already booted, so by definition they cannot impact boot time. On I/O constrained or single-core systems, they make the system essentially unresponsive for some time after bootup, but for something like the Surface RT (4 cores, Flash storage so very wide IO bandwidth) their impact will be minimal.
Hi guys,
I had a question.. My windows 8 used to boot really fast at the beginning on my PC.. But now its taking time.. Almost as much as windows 7 used to take, even during shutdown.. I've actually disabled hibernation function using tune up utilities.. Would this effect booting speed?
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kishankpadiyar said:
Hi guys,
I had a question.. My windows 8 used to boot really fast at the beginning on my PC.. But now its taking time.. Almost as much as windows 7 used to take, even during shutdown.. I've actually disabled hibernation function using tune up utilities.. Would this effect booting speed?
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How many apps have you installed?
karan128 said:
How many apps have you installed?
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not much.. 2-3 games and few common apps like vlc, firefox n all those.. no apps from stores..
Disabling Hibernation will not speed up your boot time - quite the opposite, in fact (Win8 likes to do a "hibernation shutdown" where it restarts the computer then immediately enters hibernate, which makes the subsequent bootup very fast). It will have no impact at all on restart time, either (at least, nothing meaningful - possibly a few milliseconds at worst). Hibernate shutdown does indeed take longer (substantially so), but why do you care?
GoodDayToDie said:
Disabling Hibernation will not speed up your boot time - quite the opposite, in fact (Win8 likes to do a "hibernation shutdown" where it restarts the computer then immediately enters hibernate, which makes the subsequent bootup very fast). It will have no impact at all on restart time, either (at least, nothing meaningful - possibly a few milliseconds at worst). Hibernate shutdown does indeed take longer (substantially so), but why do you care?
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oh okay.. i also wanted to know this.. Sometimes when i keep my system on standby (which i always do), my system wakes up by itself.. then when its not attended for some time it goes to sleep again.. then again in 2 min it repeats.. why is this happening..?
kishankpadiyar said:
oh okay.. i also wanted to know this.. Sometimes when i keep my system on standby (which i always do), my system wakes up by itself.. then when its not attended for some time it goes to sleep again.. then again in 2 min it repeats.. why is this happening..?
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THis may be happening due to scheduled tasks--
Open cmd and execute this code
powercfg /waketimers
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see if any task is scheduled to run while pc is on standby..
karan128 said:
THis may be happening due to scheduled tasks--
Open cmd and execute this code see if any task is scheduled to run while pc is on standby..
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it shows this.. what does it mean..?
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kishankpadiyar said:
it shows this.. what does it mean..?
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Go to "scheduled" task manager and disable that service.(whatever it is, I am not able to see it clearly on my mobile)
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Windows 8 loads up extremely fast! And I dont think disabling startup apps and services is not necessary, i came across this post, see if it helps you
http://www.computingunleashed.com/speed-up-windows-8-pro.html
my acer S3 ultrabook was using a Seagate 350GB and the boot was super crapy.... I removed the hdd and slot in a Kingston hyper X3 SSD...
my boot time is 7second flat from zero to hero..
best windows OS ever..
my windows surface RT is slowing down a bit after I loaded so many app on it...
(Note: I know just enough about UNIX-likes and what load averages are to get myself in trouble. )
Partially out of sudden curiosity, and partially out of frustration with my newly-acquired Razr M's short battery life, I poked around the developer tools and found the process/load average overlay, and left it on before pocketing my phone. (Note: it's running stock; 98.30.1)
I checked on it periodically, and it didn't take long to notice some incredibly high load averages when powering on the screen. The attached screenshot is the most ridiculous I've noticed thus far; having averages of near 15 across the board is not uncommon, but I have seen far more ... normal averages from time to time (around 3 across the board, usually).
What really disturbs me about this is that I'll usually find these high loads when the phone has been left to idle for LONG periods of time. I tried clearing all the widgets off of my launcher and minimizing background processes, but to no avail. Just what on earth could be causing this?
Strife89 said:
(Note: I know just enough about UNIX-likes and what load averages are to get myself in trouble. )
Partially out of sudden curiosity, and partially out of frustration with my newly-acquired Razr M's short battery life, I poked around the developer tools and found the process/load average overlay, and left it on before pocketing my phone. (Note: it's running stock; 98.30.1)
I checked on it periodically, and it didn't take long to notice some incredibly high load averages when powering on the screen. The attached screenshot is the most ridiculous I've noticed thus far; having averages of near 15 across the board is not uncommon, but I have seen far more ... normal averages from time to time (around 3 across the board, usually).
What really disturbs me about this is that I'll usually find these high loads when the phone has been left to idle for LONG periods of time. I tried clearing all the widgets off of my launcher and minimizing background processes, but to no avail. Just what on earth could be causing this?
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I think just vzw bloat!
Get on the dst debloated SS or unlocked rom in my signature links. Then you could restore one or the other & compare.
It could be a bad app.
Do a safe boot up. (But how safe are you with the stock bloat?)
Pwr off
Pwr on
At the first sight of the big m press & hold the vol down & stay on it to home.
aviwdoowks said:
I think just vzw bloat!
Get on the dst debloated SS or unlocked rom in my signature links.
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Bootloader's locked, and I can't root. (Yet, hopefully.)
aviwdoowks said:
It could be a bad app.
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I've been pretty picky about what I install on my phone (most apps are installed on my tablet first, for testing/fooling around with).
I've uninstalled some software nonetheless, and I've disabled most of the bundled software.
aviwdoowks said:
Do a safe boot up.
Pwr off
Pwr on
At the first sight of the big m press & hold the vol down & stay on it to home.
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I'll do some comparisons between that and normal booting later, and see what happens.
Strife89 said:
did you say root?.
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We have root!
See general forum!
aviwdoowks said:
We have root!
See general forum!
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For 98.30.1? That's fresh news to me!
Brainless Android start-up, thinking it has infinite CPU power, when it only has four cores on an old tablet. Wedges the thing with load averages above 20 for a good 10 to 15 minutes until it calms back down to about 4 or fewer process waiting to run... The becomes responsive again at about 3. No apparent way short of uninstalling about every app to control processes launched at boot/reboot/wake, tailor apps so they don't launch background activities, etc.