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Morning all,
I've had my Leo for about 6 weeks now and out of curiousity i decided that before I went to bed tonight I would see what the score with the 576MB Ram hack/fix/tweak was. To be honest I am very impressed and disappointed at the same time. The reason for my impressed-ness was my phone actually does have 576mb of ram and not 448mb!! "SWEET!!!!!", I exclaimed, but while researching the topic it's been made very clear (hence my disappointment) i need a tmous 202 based rom (I have a question about rom version numbers themselves I will come back to at the end). I have a european HD2 on O2-UK and my first question is this:
Will a tmous 202 based rom brick my Leo?
It was also made clear that i need a radio version of 2.08.50.x was needed.
**ANSWERED** I have 2.10.50.19_2. Will that enable the extra RAM? I found out, thanks to nrg, that any radio versioned 2.xx.50.x_x will unlock the extra ram
My research also showed that hspl2 is most likely required. So which version of hspl2 do i need? I have already flashed hspl to my device as you will see from my sig so that is no biggy. I just want to check version numbers.
And, finally, going back to the rom version numbers. I understand that I have rom version 1.66.blah and that there are versions before and after mine spanning from 1.43 to 2.02 (maybe higher) but I don't understand which of these has WM 6.5 and which has WM 6.5.3, 6.5.5 or whatever. I've been looking like mad trying to find some sort of table but I'm lucking out and a pointer would be greatfully received . I ask because i am aware that in 6.5.5 the taskbar has moved from the top of the screen to the bottom and there are also several other differences between the versions.
So i think that just about covers all my questions for now on this topic. Massive thanks to everyone who can provide useful and helpful answers and just a little less thanks to everyone else
I just thought i'd give this a bump becuase i noticed it got moved. I also came to settle on energy rom standard sense 23569 but i can't seem to find a link for the june 6th version. Although with the comments i'm seeing about the new touch driver that nrg included the may 25th version my be the way to go.
I'm still looking for answers on the TMOUS 202 based rom questions and the hspl2 question. I'm not entirely sure what the answer to those questions is. From my reading it would appear that the TMOUS 202 rom would probably brick my device but i can't confirm it but it seems hspl2 would be ok. Does anyone have any confirmation on these?
And, lastly, does anyone know where i can find some clarification on which build numbers or rom version correspond to which WM 6.5 tree? this one is bugging me because i'm expected to make and informed choice and not knowing exactly what i'm flashing on my device isn't helping
hey mate, I am not sure as to the correct answers to your questions, but I thought I may aswell tell you about how I did with flashing my unbranded UK rom with a 576mb rom.
I decided top load a 576mb rom when i loaded a custom one since when i chose to load a new custom rom they had worked out most of the issues with 576mb ram (noise on phone calls and instability and stuff)
I had a good search and I was most impressed with this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653994
(sadly this rom has been discontinued)
So i set up my device, I installed the latest hspl which was version 2.08 at the time
I downloaded the rom, I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
I did the task 29 first
then proceeded to start loading the rom
it started to install, then hung at around 25% I was quite distraught at the time, I had only had the device for about 1 week and bricking it so quickly really worried me.
after about 20 minutes of sitting there watching it I decided to pull the plug.
I restarted the device and of course it just hung on the htc logo
I restarted it again and got into the hspl bootloader (i breathed a sigh of relief knowing i could at least get the official radio back on it and then send it back to htc if something was wrong)
I tried to install the rom again however, and it hung at the same point. I was slightly confused now and decided to look at my setup.
My pc is a long way from my desk so I use a lot of usb extenders and hubs. Now I had seen advice not to flash it through a hub, so i was using an extension wire to make the htc cable long enough to get to the phone.
i decided to try and flash it without the extension wire.
It worked, it flashed in about 6 minutes or so, rebooted, and worked fine.
and now to this day I stil have that rom on it and I havent looked back, its been the best phone user experience I have ever had.
I also have the full 576mb of ram available now and it is working fine.
I hope this to be a reassuring post more than a scare story. The truth is that once you have hspl on the device it is actually very hard too brick it (similar too PSP's if you ever worked with custom firmwares on them and their equivalent bootloaders)
So my advice would be to go for it, follow the guides available and enjoy a new 576mb ram device
it's been made very clear (hence my disappointment) i need a tmous 202 based rom
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not specifically 2.02 rom, any tmous rom will unlock (when flashed with a correct radio, more in a sec). The latest stock is 2.13
however that doesnt mean you have to flash a tmous stock rom, it just means the custom rom you flash must have used a tmous rom as its base. (Any rom that advertises itself as 576 enabled uses tmous as a base)
It was also made clear that i need a radio version of 2.08.50.x was needed.
**ANSWERED** I have 2.10.50.19_2. Will that enable the extra RAM?
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Any radio with ..50.. and not ..51.. in the version number, when used with a 2.x based rom (cooked or stock) should work to unlock the RAM.
If you flash a 576 enabled ROM and your radio is still a ..51.. the phone wont boot, or may only boot once, then hang at grey screen, until you enter bootloader and flash a ..50.. radio.
My research also showed that hspl2 is most likely required. So which version of hspl2 do i need?
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HSPL2 is not required if you already have HSPL installed, all the roms will work quite happily with the HSPL you already have. However HSPL2 lets you choose more than just 1.42.HSPL, so you can match the spl to the rom version. (Or do as i did, install 2.08.HSPL and leave it at that, regardless of rom.)
No proof that having the correct spl or a higher version spl makes any difference, but it can't hurt, right?
I understand that I have rom version 1.66.blah and that there are versions before and after mine spanning from 1.43 to 2.02 (maybe higher) but I don't understand which of these has WM 6.5 and which has WM 6.5.3, 6.5.5
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All stock roms, , , , ALL stock roms, , are 6.5
You can tell by the build number, the 5 digit number in chefs rom thread titles, but i dont really know.
There are loads of different builds, i 'think' builds 21xxx are 6.5 whilst 23xxx are 6.5.3, but 6.5.5 is also 23xxx, or maybe 28xxx, hehe. Sorry, you'll need to look that up.
Oh, and regarding the unlocked ram, when you are loking to see if it is unlocked, if you view the systems available memory, it will show 448 (128 taken by graphics card), you should look in the settings - about phone - hardware info screen.
thanks sam you cleared some things up for me aswell as the op i dare say.
Thanks Sam. The radio thing i figured out thanks to something i saw in the rom dev board and because i was trying to get better signal for when i'm at a mates house down the road i flashed 2.10.50.19_2 a while ago so i don't need to do anymore with that but i think i will just blast hspl 2.08 on tomorrow.
I do have one question regards version numbers. From what you have said my understanding is that all the stock roms are 6.5 and not 6.5.x. I've also deduced from what you said about the build numbers (with the help of some brief research) that 6.5.3 has build numbers in the low end of the 23000 range possibly 233xx?) and 6.5.5 has build numbers in the 235xx range.
Once i do flash my phone i'm not going to be that concerned about checking if it worked or not. I spent 4 hours reading every post in the original thread on the subject and i'm convinced that as long as i use the right radio and the right rom everything will be fine. I'm just not looking forward to transfering all the data on my sd card back and forth
Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
I am running the updated rom 2.13 I am on t-mobile though and I am able to use android all day but once I restart it reverts back to WM. So I am not sure if this helps you...I was able to get everything running but the calls sounded robotic. I read I needed to flash to a new rom.
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Hi, I recently bought a T-mobile HD2, the unit isn't unlocked yet but I plan to unlock it and use it with AT&T, anyways I'm interested in running Android on the device. Would updating the HD2 from the HTC website which I believe is the official update website prohibit me in anyway from locking out Android or do anything negative in terms of customization of the HD2 unit?
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Well first, if you have the T-Mobile version of the phone, you do NOT want to use an update from the HTC site, that's for the euro version of the phone. The upgraded stock rom that you can use is available on T-Mobile's support page for the HD2.
Now, flashing to the correct updated ROM will not prevent you from doing anything...you'll still be able to unlock it later, you can still run Android, and you can still do any customizations you want. It's just a newer version of the stock ROM that originally came on the phone.
Hey, thanks so much guys, I'll search for the T-mobile page. I'm glad you guys caught it before I bricked me phone.
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term. Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one? I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should? Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
Poopmonkey said:
BTW, I read that you the T-Mobile Version of the HD2 doesnt use radios. What exactly are radios? I know they mean like firmware versions but what is the term.
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
Also, do you guys recommend flashing a different WM rom or just keep the stock one?
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That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
I tried to read about Android on the HD2 but I need some user advice. Is Android now stable enough for everyday use on the HD2? Also, could you use applications on the HD2 Android Rom? Will they work as they should?
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There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
Lastly, why didn't the developers develop a Android rom that you could flash so you didn't have to reboot into it after every Hard Reset?
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That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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The US HD2 certainly does use radios, it just uses different ones than the euro version...in fact, that's most of the reason the wrong ROM could brick your phone, because of radio incompatibility. As you said, the radios you see referred to here are the firmware packages used to control the hardware radios in the phone (voice, 3G/EDGE, GPS, WiFi, BT). When you flash a different radio, you're applying a different set of settings to the way all that functions.
That's generally completely a matter of personal opinion, some people will tell you that using a custom ROM is so critical that if you don't your grandchildren will walk funny, etc....whereas I am doing just fine running the stock ROM and just manually tweaking and hacking it to my liking, part by part. However, if you're going to be running Android on it, there's evidence that having a custom ROM vs the stock will help with some of the known problems with the Android ports that are available.
There's several builds available, and all of the current ones are remarkably stable compared to the first attempts. But, I believe that that there's still not any that are absolutely 100% fully-functional...each has some minor drawback or caveat, like BT or 3G or the camera not working right, but usually that's the only issue(s). Also, it's been a couple of days since I checked on those, so they may have come even farther since then. One common drawback to all of them though is the heaaavvvy battery drain...but this is also being addressed as quickly as possible. And yes, in every build the apps and marketplace seem to be working just as they would on any factory android install.
That seems to have become the final frontier for Android on the HD2...the release of a fully stand-alone ROM. Trust me, they are working on that, there's tons of members here drooling and waiting for that exact thing. It requires a completely different method of loading Android into memory, so there's a lot more kinks to work out
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Wow, thank you so much sirphunkee, you sir are a scholar with your detailed response. Anyways, I apologize but I am intrigued by your response and more questions evolve. Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
Again I would like to sincerely thank you for everyone's patience with me, especially sirphunkee. Thank you.
No problem!
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Once my HD2 comes I assume it will have a older ROM version and a official T-Mobile Update will be available for me. Now, I'm just wondering would I need to worry about what radios I need or will that be taken care of for me.
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Most of the HD2's built or shipped in the past 2 months have the newer ROM on them, but even if yours doesn't then yes you can just go to the T-Mobile site and get the newer one.
Both of the stock ROM's have the radio(s) included, so you don't have to worry about it if you just stay with one of those ROM's. If you flash a custom ROM it (usually) won't have a radio included, it'll just use whatever radio was already on your phone (i.e. whatever one came with the stock ROM originally). You can flash to different radio versions....ONLY ones that are clearly labeled as being compatible with the US HD2...doesn't matter if you're running a stock or custom ROM, but it does require HSPL first before a radio can be flashed.
Also, I'm still a little confused on the whole radio aspect. For example, in this picture located here:
hxxp://support.t-mobile.com/doc/images/tm54430/tm54430_06.gif
The image version is different one is 2.10.531.1 and the other 2.13.531.1. Are these the radio versions or is this like the ROM version. If so how do I find out what my Hd2s radio is? I mean before I flash a rom how do I find out the radio it contains? For example on your HD2, sirphunkee, in your signature, you have:
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (82076) WWE/5.2.21889 (Stock 6.5)
Sense: 2.5.2012
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2
So I assume that you don't have the latest stock ROM right? Also, what does the WWE mean in your ROM version. Would you recommend me updating my HD2 to the latest stock ROM or not?
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The original stock T-Mobile US ROM (yes, the one I'm running currently) is 2.10.531.1 ("2.10" for short), and the newer one that's been released is 2.13...so that pic you linked there just shows the stock upgrade utility about to upgrade a ROM to the new version (with an included radio).
You can tell what ROM/Radio is on your phone by reading the little text that appears on the bottom of the screen during bootup, and you can also access that info through a settings option once the phone is running.
"WWE" = "WorldWide English"....just means that I have an english-based ROM. Other languages are available by applying ROM's specifically built for that language, but I honestly don't even know if any exist for the T-Mobile HD2, I think they're only available for the euro model.
Since it's very easy to flash the upgraded stock ROM, if your phone comes with the older one I would just suggest running that for a few days and see if it gives you any headaches....if so, then just go ahead and flash to the newer one. There's a number of threads in this section that discuss the differences in the stock ROM's, and the advantages/disadvantages of each. Regardless of which stock ROM you have, the process to flash to a custom ROM is the same either way (HSPL, etc).
Also, I read before you flash a phone you need to install HSPL3 on the phone. This is what I'm told is a bootloader. But then Im also told that usually this bootloader is paired with official or leaked roms so that each SPL matches the ROM, so if I need to flash a HSPL3 on my HD2 before I flash a custom ROM do I need to redo it everytime? I mean the HSPL3 is supposedly hard bootloader that survives a hard reset so it won't be wiped from the device until I overwrite it so does that mean I need reflash it everytime I get a new rom so it matches the ROM?
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HSPL is "permanent", in the sense that it remains on your phone until you manually flash a different HSPL (like flashing back to stock SPL should you need to return the phone for warranty reasons). Once you have HSPL (yes, a hard bootloader) on your phone (HSPL3 being the latest/best to use), you can flash all the different custom ROMs or radios that you want, without having to apply HSPL again.
Anyways, sirphunkee, you mention tweaking the stock ROM, would you recommend BSB tweaks or something else because I read about it and users have discovered that they lose some functions after tweaking their phones. Also would I need to install this if I just plan to tweak the original/stock rom?
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There a bunch of different things you can to to tweak a stock ROM, or to futher tweak a custom one, and BsB is just a nice tight convenient collection of some of the more common ones. I use BsB and don't have any issues related to it, but I also skip a few of the settings in it ("tap time" for example) that have caused issues for other users. Besides BsB, I also use HD2Tweak, JWMD Icon Changer, CHT/CHTE, as well as a whole list of other stand-alone tweaks that come in the form of cab files, or manual registry hacks...some are related to performance or function, while some are strictly visual or style tweaks.
Furthermore, is Android on the HD2 currently run over/on top of the WM OS so could that be the cause of the heavy battery drain? Also, is the Android OS on the HD2 booted through an exploit in the firmware of the HD2? If so could this be patched? Just a personal opinion of everyone here do you believe that Android on the HD2 that is flashed onto the HD2's NAND itself will be possible/could this final frontier be achieved?
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I originially thought the same (that Android ran in parallel with WM and that was causing the batt drain), but from what I read it actually shuts down WM when it runs, so I guess that isn't the cause of the drain...but honestly I haven't been able to keep up with all the finer details of the Android porting that's going on. And yes, a version of Androd that will load straight to NAND at bootup is the final hurdle I was talking about, and that's exactly what a number of dev's are trying very hard to make happen....I suspect that a breakthrough in that is right around the corner, but I'm no dev so take that with a grain of salt!
Hope that helps! It will be a lot easier once you have the unit in-hand and can play with it yourself. Also be sure to look over this thread (if you haven't already): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845
Thank you again sirphunkee! Anyways I just got my hd2 and for the most part I like it. Though, I have a question, how can I backup my contacts so that after a new rom install I dont need to relink their facebook accounts again? Basically, I don't have the same names for my contacts, I only have first names so I have to redo it manually one by one and I want to use activesync to do it but it's telling me I need Outlook. Why do I need Outlook? Isn't that a stupid outdated email application? Also, how do you remove all the bloatware like blockbuster from the HD2? Is flashing a custom rom the only option?
Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
anyone have a idea? I'd like to experiment with android but i wanna make sure i have the right settings to i dontt have a brick in my hands after I'm done.
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Also, I noticed a problem that windows marketplace apps seem to not install. I try to install Skyfire and I see the progress bar and it goes to like 3/4 of the way and never goes past that.
An unrelated question I want to install HSPL3 I have a SPL 2.10.000 on my Stock 2.13 T-Mobile I'm wondering since in the instructions it tells me, that:
*YOU CAN NOW CHOOSE WHICH VERSION OF SPL OR HARDSPL YOU WANT TO FLASH TO YOUR PHONE*
*You can only select between SPL2.08.0000 or 2.08.HSPL. This is to avoid people with 1024LEO's installing an incompatable version and bricking their device*
What exactly am I suppose to pick? A SPL or HSPL? I mean I want to run Android but will this HSPL interfere with my stock ROM? Also, can someone give me like specific instructions on what I need to pick in the installer?
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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If you're just going to put android on the phone, you don't need to mess with H/SPL at all...you only need that if you're going to flash to a custom winmo ROM before putting Android on there.
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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Thanks for your reply once again sirphunkee, but it says in this thread that I need HSPL3 to get android to run stably.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
Also, don't you need HSPL3 to flash a custom ROM in the first place as described here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
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I think what that thread is saying is that having a custom ROM is what helps with the stability of Android, not just putting HSPL3 on there (unless that's buried in that thread somewhere that I missed...). But yes, putting a custom ROM on the phone would have the prerequisite of HSPL anyway.
I don't have a custom ROM or even HSPL on my HD2, and I'm currently using the Desire v5 build of Android on here. It seems to run very stable, but I haven't yet gotten a few things working on it (i.e. 3G)...I can't say if a custom ROM would make those things work, but I can say it doesn't ever crash or hang or seem to slow down at all.
I just wanted you to know that HSPL wasn't mandatory for you to be able to try out Android on your phone.
Ok thank you so much sirphunkee again. Anyways, I'm wondering if you know why my weather will not update now when I ask it to on a Wifi connection. I try to update it and just says that its a connection error. And also my windows marketplace app installs seem to stall on the 3/4 complete and they never finish. Could you perhaps help me with that?
Lastly, I was wondering would you be able to tell me if I wanted to put a custom ROM on my HD2 what setting do I need to put on my HD2 for a successful flash?
FIND THE "ANDROID ON HD2" THREAD everything is explained.
Hi all,
Having a problem getting Android to run on my Telstra HD2. I do the following:
+ Run CLRCAD; all good
+ Run HARET; all good until -- 5 or 6 lines of the linux screen appear and then it hangs, or the screen goes blank depending on the Android build that I try running.
I have an Australian HD2 with the following specs:
Model: T9193 (Telstra)
OS: 5.2.21869
R: 2.07.51.22_2
G: 15.32.50.07u
D: 1.72.82124
I am using the standard SanDisk 16Gb Micro-SD card. I have tried a number of Android builds from gamesquare.co.uk with no luck.
Can anyone suggest what I need to do to get this running on the stock Telstra ROM?
Any help is greatly appreciated,
Peace..
Probably need to upgrade your rom
and radio. Look at some signatures of people who say their build is working good.
I didn't really want to upgrade the ROM and radio since it'd void my warranty..
RE: Telstra woes
I notice you are running 2.07.51 radio. I reckon it's your radio to be honest. I run 2.12.50.02_2 on mine. I have had problems with radios other than x.xx.50.xx radios. There is a link somewhere in here to all the working radios (I think in the definitive guide. Don't worry about warranty issues, if you ever need to deal with that, just flash back to the factory rom (but I take no responsibility .
Cheers
Definitely need to change the radio. You need a .50 radio. That also means you need to put HSPL on the phone. However, be aware that Android is not very stable yet. I couldn't get WiFi working and had all sorts of problems getting it to talk with Outlook. Went back to stock Rom highly modified (CHT etc)
Hmmm indeed the radio could be the problem. I use the 2.07.50.22_2 radio (although my G and and D values are also different from yours) and I've had no problems.
This way if anything catastrophically goes wrong with your phone and you're unable to flash the old radio back hopefully they won't notice
EDIT: Forgot about HSPL, thanks iandg.
Thanks for the replies.
I'm going to bite the bullet... I've just installed HSPL; no problems.. Now to find a radio update..
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Definitely need to change the radio. You need a .50 radio. That also means you need to put HSPL on the phone. However, be aware that Android is not very stable yet. I couldn't get WiFi working and had all sorts of problems getting it to talk with Outlook. Went back to stock Rom highly modified (CHT etc)
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really? you had that much problems with it dude? I'm still a noob here but I must say that I'm having a really good experience with it at the moment.
My config seems to be working pretty good. Try this....
ROM is NRGZ maxsense rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591784
Radio:
2.12.50.02_2
Android build is [BUILD][25.08.2010][mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense 1.6b][Kernel: michyprima 2.6.32.9 #70]:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=736545
I have actually been using this as my main OS for the last 2 builds and it is really usable now. I have it syncing direct to my outlook server at work no probs at all (IT have hijacked it with security policies, but this is understandable). Other than that I reckon the DEVs here are absolute geniuses with how well this stuff is running.
Hope this is of some help
e1design said:
Thanks for the replies.
I'm going to bite the bullet... I've just installed HSPL; no problems.. Now to find a radio update..
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e1design, I have the same phone in the States on AT&T. Feel free to use my links below in my sig to get what I'm using. It works just fine. I haven't been on WinMo in weeks.
Done
Firstly, thanks for the replies in this thread.
I have to say that I've read it many times before: "Try the search function" - well it works wonders. With the information posted in thtis thread I was able to piece it all together and I now have Android on my HD2!
There are still a couple of things to iron out [WiFi, battery life and such] but in all a very worthwhile exercise.
Thanks again to the thread responders, and if you're in the same place as I was a week ago wanting to get Android on your HD2 - search on the keywords in this thread and you'll find it's as easy as can be.
Androis on T9193
Am totally thrilled to learn Android can be installed on the T9193.
Where are the best locations to source ROMs?
Suggestions on which are better and why?
Steps to Android..
Look at my sig and go from there..
I know I'm reviving an old thread here, but I'm wondering if any of you using a Telstra HD2 on AT&T (Cingular for me) here in the US have a stable Android install? I've been struggling with this for a long time now. I love Android but I can't get a configuration that will run longer than about 10 hours most of the time. I've gone through all the radios from 2.12.50.02_2, 2.14.50.02, and 2.15.50.14. I've switched my Windows Mobile ROM from Dutty CDLC v15 to OzDroid v1.11, I've switched my Android build from mattc froyo sense v1.8 to froyostone sense v3.2. I've gone through a couple different Linux kernels, currently on hastarin #8. No matter what I do I end up with about a 10 hour life before the device hangs. I have seen improving PPP performance with the different radios and kernels, but the overall device stability is the biggest problem. Could anyone using the Telstra HD2 for Android please post the configs that worked from them on their devices and include what kind of uptime you've achieved? I'm hoping this would really help me. Thanks in advance.
Ok For me I have the telstra HD2 and this is my Config.
Pretty much the latest of everything
- MAGLDR1.13
-Latest HSPL
-TyphoonN_CM7_v2.4.4.zip
- Radio 2.15.50.14
- Clockwork mode recovery v1.3
Just follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933951
Hope that helps.
Hi Guys
I just got my T-mobile HTC HD2, and its used and unlocked, so I dont know if it's already has HSPL or not!! how do I know that?
the second thing; what happen if I installed by "mistake" an HD2 ROM that is not for T-mobile?
and does android froyo works perfectly on t-mobile hd2?
finally, is there a big different between the T-mobile HD2 and the orginal one? I know it has a 1024 MB Rom but is there a good reason to buy it over the orginal one, because I found a non Tmobile HD2 with cheap price and I am thinking to buy it for my brother.
take care
To find out if you have HardSPL applied, restart your device and hold the volume down button until you get to a three colored screen. Ass long as it says "COTULLA SPL" near the top you have HardSPL applied.
If you accidentally install a ROM that is not for the T-Mobile US HD2, it will brick your device and you will no longer have a working phone. Currently there is no way to repair such a device except through JTAG.
Android for the most part works, except for the sounds and MMS basically. Read the threads about Android for more info.
The difference between the Euro HD2 and the US HD2 is indeed the ROM size. The Euro one has 512MB of ROM, and the US has 1024MB of ROM. They ROMs are NOT compatable with each other, you MUST flash a ROM that is safe for the US HD2 if that is the device you have.
Thank you very much
ashasaur said:
If you accidentally install a ROM that is not for the T-Mobile US HD2, it will brick your device and you will no longer have a working phone. Currently there is no way to repair such a device except through JTAG.
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Not quite true. If you accidentally flash a non tmous COOKED rom, then you are OK, because cooked roms generally dont contain a radio, and its the radios that kill. So the phone would hang on initial boot screen, but you could still enter bootloader and flash a new rom. Its only the official roms that contain radios, thats why so many people brick them trying to change the language, because they go for non tmous stock roms.
Thats what I mean, official ROMs cannot be mixed.
The phone isn't mine. It is a lady friend of mine and I'm just curious if it would run on the default OS because her phone isn't rooted and I don't want to root her phone for insurance purposes.
If it can run on it is it the same process as doing it on a Touch Pro? I used to have a Touch Pro and it was as simple as putting the downloaded files on the memory card and launching Haret.exe so I do have some experience with Android on Windows builds.
Some people reported that it does run on the defaul OS. But you still have to flash HSPL and I think you'll maybe need an other radio like 2.12 or 2.14.
JanssoN said:
Some people reported that it does run on the defaul OS. But you still have to flash HSPL and I think you'll maybe need an other radio like 2.12 or 2.14.
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Thanks... I guess I'll have to void it and if anything tell her I can flash it back to normal if anything happens to it.
Yes, I think you'll have to but flashing back and gettin it to factory settings is easy.. so you don't have to hesitate if you know what you are doin.
Edit: Chance to brick it actually is very small, just be shure you don't use a radio with .51 then is everything ok
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Yes, I think you'll have to but flashing back and gettin it to factory settings is easy.. so you don't have to hesitate if you know what you are doin.
Edit: Chance to brick it actually is very small, just be shure you don't use a radio with .51 then is everything ok
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What the hack are you talking about first you don't need hspl to run android from sd. Just the radio has to be higher than 2.08. You get this if you update your phone tothe latest version. For United states people you can do it on t-mobile site as far as I know. For evry other user the htc site should work.
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What the hack are you talking about first you don't need hspl to run android from sd. Just the radio has to be higher than 2.08. You get this if you update your phone tothe latest version. For United states people you can do it on t-mobile site as far as I know. For evry other user the htc site should work.
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I'm pretty sure you need HSPL for flashing another radio, but that it is possible to do it on the HTC odr T-Mobile site I didn't knew. So sorry for my ignorance
JanssoN said:
I'm pretty sure you need HSPL for flashing another radio, but that it is possible to do it on the HTC odr T-Mobile site I didn't knew. So sorry for my ignorance
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Sorry I maybe was a little bit rude to you
Maybe it was because it looks like bad news for our great devices wich it isn't
HTC just released an update for all other versions except the t-mobile version. Wich the latest radio 2.15. As far as I know t-mobile roms had always higher than 2.08. And with latest updates it is 2.12 I tought.
But you are right for flashing another radio.
jan-willem3 said:
Sorry I maybe was a little bit rude to you
Maybe it was because it looks like bad news for our great devices wich it isn't
HTC just released an update for all other versions except the t-mobile version. Wich the latest radio 2.15. As far as I know t-mobile roms had always higher than 2.08. And with latest updates it is 2.12 I tought.
But you are right for flashing another radio.
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No it's okay. It's not like I would have to cry now
Well, you have to know my last visit on the HTC site is long time ago since I'm using Android on daily base and a custom WinMo ROM When I started my phone had a 2.05 radio and I didn't knew they have released such a big update. I'm not very interersted in WinMo anymore. But thanks for the update anyway.
Cheers
Thanks guys well I'll be updating her phone as I'm sure she hasn't done so at all. If I need anything else I'll post back here. I don't plan on doing it until Monday regardless so I haven't had much time with her phone.
You don't need HSPL to run Android. I don't have HSPL and I use Android every day.
Before you bother to update, turn the phone on and look next to the letter 'R' down near the bottom in red that appears before Windows loads up.
Those numbers next to the 'R' are the radio version.
If the third number is 50 (X.XX.50.XX) instead of 51 or 52 or anything else, then you don't need to update your radio or ROM or anything.
You just need a X.XX.50.XX radio.
If it's not, then yes, you'll need to update.
But after that, it's really easy.
Just download your preferred build, unzip it, and place the Android folder on the root of your sd card (inside of no folders, just on the sd card, dont put your Android folder int a folder).
I would also suggest installing in Windows Mobile the Exceller Android/Ubuntu loader. Then its easier for your lady friend to launch Android from Windows, and you can set the loader to automatically launch Android when she turns her phone on.
As far as 'root', all that means is having permission from the operating system to access and write to the root filesystem in Android. By default, users are denied access to this, and so cannot change much in Android and thats what the big deal about having root is. But guess what? These builds that run from the sd card already have root access, so you are already a step ahead of a person who goes and buys an Android native phone. They have to go through some hackery to get what we already have ;-D
Running Android on HD2 (originally WinMo 6.5 Phone) - both TMOUS and International ones - doesnt require you to have HSPL the phone (if u want to know this... for HTC warranty sake)
Android will run from your SD card. Android flavour will be rooted or mat not be rooted depends on the developer.
First unzip the Android flavour in your SD card and run android.. if there is Robo voice then its all along a different story
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Well I tried using one android build with a stock HD2 with the proper radio xx.xx.50.xx etc. After the linux screen starts loading only 4 lines of text quickly flash then I'm shown an HTC logo which it gets stuck at. Any rom recommendations for stock HD2's not rooted?
Any info would be great. Thank you all for your help.
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Update:
Well I tried using one android build with a stock HD2 with the proper radio xx.xx.50.xx etc. After the linux screen starts loading only 4 lines of text quickly flash then I'm shown an HTC logo which it gets stuck at. Any rom recommendations for stock HD2's not rooted?
Any info would be great. Thank you all for your help.
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It can take a while the first time you boot sometimes... it may stay on the htc logo screen up to 15 minutes first boot depending on build, data size, and sd card speed.
Otherwise just try another build.