Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
"Hell I don't know anymore"
Don't really see roms disappeared anywhere, and yes many people got the 3vo but it still wasn't ROM per day before the 3vo, just give it time till devs find new and better things to put on ROMs
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Not saying any roms have "disappeared" just seems the updating and developing in the 4G arena had slowed down quite a bit.
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Don't really see roms disappeared anywhere, and yes many people got the 3vo but it still wasn't ROM per day before the 3vo, just give it time till devs find new and better things to put on ROMs
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Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
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Really? If it is worth crying over why don't you start developing for your phone? These devs do this for fun and free. They don't owe you anything or have to develop on the basis that there is still a large user base. You are not entitled to anything.
Leaning the kitchen is definitely the way to go. That way you can take the best of what you like, and it in.
Much more satisfying too.
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I just see more quality roms
I don't think the OP is ranting against developers, I believe he's ranting against the EVO3D for just existing. least that's the way I saw it.
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selders59 said:
Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
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1. dude lets face it the evo 4g is now free at many places like target mobile..
2. The Evo 4g while a good phone is now end of life as it has been replaced... Its the way it goes.... We are lucky that the phone was not replaced after about 3 to 6 months. We got a year of updates.... from htc and sprint....
3. why dont you just go and get the evo 3d like i am in november for me...
4. why dont you just root and place some sort of evo 3d rom on your phone... granted it will be slow because of having to use the transflash card for everything.... since you need atleast a 2gb partition on it as ext3
You have definitely taken this wrong. And I have NEVER said the devs.owe us anything. Just making an observation. So don't try to inject things into my words that I am not stating.
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Really? If it is worth crying over why don't you start developing for your phone? These devs do this for fun and free. They don't owe you anything or have to develop on the basis that there is still a large user base. You are not entitled to anything.
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IMO, I love HTC, but the hardware changes aren't worth me wasting my upgrade right now. I'll just wait for Fiscal Q1 2012 when everything will have major changes.
for example:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-quad-core-android-tablet-codenamed-kal-el-video/
that's a major hardware change from everything else. That would make me upgrade no problem....
I'm not saying from eVo to 3vO isn't an upgrade, just not enough for me
Man I can definitely see everyone does not read this correctly. It was just made as an observation and that was it. As for getting a 3D like I said the cost is nothing, as if and when I decide to get a 3D I will be purchasing more than one. My issue is Performance wise and I have tested it side by side at Sprint with my phone running virus's B1.3 rom. And even the tech I know there said outside of the 3D pics and videos, the processor just a hair bigger, and the increase in memory there really was not a significant difference in the performance. As he even stated that the rom I am using runs and makes transitions just as smooth as the 3D.
So I think I will just hold off til something with some more significant changes in software and hardware comes out before I use my upgrades or money on.
"Hell I don't know anymore"
I think the bottom line is a combination of factors.
The devs have done 2.1 and 2.2 pretty much to death.
AOSP, Sense 3.0, and GB are more intriguing to more and more people, but there is a lack of source code.
There are other higher-profile projects for devs, including rooting 2.3 and, yes, rooting and developing for the 3D.
But I agree with the other suggestions that you look into cooking your own ROMs, or maybe get into app development. That's what I'm doing, but it's also just for fun. Be creative. Just make a nandroid first.
Progress is a *****. Get over it.
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IMO, I love HTC, but the hardware changes aren't worth me wasting my upgrade right now. I'll just wait for Fiscal Q1 2012 when everything will have major changes.
for example:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-quad-core-android-tablet-codenamed-kal-el-video/
that's a major hardware change from everything else. That would make me upgrade no problem....
I'm not saying from eVo to 3vO isn't an upgrade, just not enough for me
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I want to believe this is true but I think it's all speculation for quad cores coming to phones when dual cores are barely being introduced to some phones...Evo 3D being one of them. I agree though, I'm waiting until an ice cream sandwich phone (from someone other than Samsung) comes out..or a phone with higher specs to come out before I even consider getting a new phone.
I can see your comment is a suggestion as to your IQ gumbo. It really is surprising when people take observations you make as "crying" then post highly intellectural comments like "get over it" . ROFLMAO you make me laugh.
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Progress is a *****. Get over it.
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Once the kernel source is released we will see more development. Other than the original android phone the "G1" the EVO has seen major development over other phones and continues to do so. The EVO has had quit a run in my opinion. How many other phones get a update after a year of service? Not many. Once we see a non 3d version of the dual core I personally will be upgrading. For now I believe the shift ports are giving the EVO one more run.
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I see it the same as SilverZero. It's not the Evo 3D or any other new sexy phone that's slowing ROM development. It's simply that Froyo's been done and still no source code for Gingerbread. So, things are slow. That said, I still see a lot of port successes (and failures) in Development and incremental tweaks on existing GB roms.
What would you like to see?
OP, just flash Synergy Rom and call it a day. It's the smoothed, zippiest Rom I have ever flashed. There's no denying it. With Synergy Rom on my EVO 4G, it's absolutely keeping me from getting the EVO 3D. It's that good.
I'm gonna hold off on upgrading for a little while at least three to six months to see what else is gonna become available.
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OP, just flash Synergy Rom and call it a day. It's the smoothed, zippiest Rom I have ever flashed. There's no denying it. With Synergy Rom on my EVO 4G, it's absolutely keeping me from getting the EVO 3D. It's that good.
I'm gonna hold off on upgrading for a little while at least three to six months to see what else is gonna become available.
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+1 on Synergy, & I'm waiting for whenever the WiThin drops before I even think of making any decision to get rid of my EVO. I even still have my Epic sitting unactivated. Decisions decisions LOL
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Folks don't take me wrong, the 3D is an advancement and the developers here are top notch and so are a majority of the members. I have made and will continue to make donations to this site and the devs both in support and financially. I just know there are allot of folks still going to keep their evo's for awhile more and would hate to see the loss of further rom developing for our devices. If I had the knowledge and time to get into developing I would for the community. But I don't. As running a business and being part of several organizations for handicapped children takes up most of my time besides my own family. I apologize if this thread has been tasken by some in the wrong context.
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+1 on Synergy, & I'm waiting for whenever the WiThin drops before I even think of making any decision to get rid of my EVO. I even still have my Epic sitting unactivated. Decisions decisions LOL
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How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
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How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
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Well, I can have it both ways I guess. I've had the Hero since January and I love it. My dad will be getting the EVO next weekend. So I've been explaining to him the benefits of root and what not, and I think I have him convinced to root it. I have to admit that I am jealous, although it will be nice to have some hands on experience when I do root it for him.
I have my Hero rooted with Fresh 2.1.2 and with the Envy theme on it. I might start to learn to theme on my own since there are tutorials out there. It looks easy, but time consuming.
Ultimately, I'm satisfied and I thank the themers and the rom devs out there who made my phone a nice piece of work.
Listen.. Not everyone will be able to upgrade and not everyone here has 500 dollars to shell out for a phone in an economy like this. Progress will slow as far as hero goes but will not stop. come June 4th ill still be here and so will everyone else... Theres a strong reality in the real world and most people who say "ill get the phone" will not get it simply because life doesn't work that way. Theres stipulations and events that happen daily that impede peoples lives and plans.
Stop worrying about development for the hero.
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How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
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I don't think it's gonna die off that much. I don't recall hearing flipz, damage or toast saying they were jumping ship.
Powers16 said:
Listen.. Not everyone will be able to upgrade and not everyone here has 500 dollars to shell out for a phone in an economy like this. Progress will slow as far as hero goes but will not stop. come June 4th ill still be here and so will everyone else... Theres a strong reality in the real world and most people who say "ill get the phone" will not get it simply because life doesn't work that way. Theres stipulations and events that happen daily that impede peoples lives and plans.
Stop worrying about development for the hero.
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Well said my man!
Most of us got our phones in Sept/Oct thus not up for upgrade, I doubt many of us will be jumping ship to a $500 phone.
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I am going to pay full price for the evo.
But i am going to miss my damage control roms.
You guys made the long wait for 2.1 much more bearable.
I will still be on the forums for the hero. I helped people at work root and flash there devices.
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Most of us got our phones in Sept/Oct thus not up for upgrade, I doubt many of us will be jumping ship to a $500 phone.
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I know a ton of people are on ppcgeeks, it's like a ghost town in the hero section. But in reality xda has always been the main place for development anyways. Im a bit shocked at godzson & zen leaving so soon though.
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I don't think it's gonna die off that much. I don't recall hearing flipz, damage or toast saying they were jumping ship.
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Actually, Toast (arguably our best true code developer) has said he is getting the EVO. That in itself is a big big loss.
i wont be leaving, and i havent developed any roms lmfao ahahahahahahahahaah i will continue to see you guys around here, but i am getting some help from a mentor of mine who is teaching me how to compile my own kernels and i will soon make my own few roms for my hero, mwuahahahahaha(evil laugh)
I *was* going to get the Evo and actually considered purchasing it outright or adding a second line to my account to get it, but not sure if I can handle an additional $80/mo bill on top of my current load which is horrendous already.
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I *was* going to get the Evo and actually considered purchasing it outright or adding a second line to my account to get it, but not sure if I can handle an additional $80/mo bill on top of my current load which is horrendous already.
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Additional &80???
How's that? Do you have just one line right now?
I am pretty sure I am holding off on the EVO. Not that the specs don't give me a hard on, but ----- I really want a tegra or dual core snap dragon even more than I want this.
And I don't have 4g any my area, and it took years to even get 3G here...I can only imagine the roll out will be just the same. I really can't belive there are still parts of the U.S. that are dead-zones...let alone not having 3G.
I was absolutely pumped on the EVO and am eligible for an upgrade. However, after some recent disappointments with Sprint's service/customer service, I will be sticking with my Hero. I don't plan on ditching Sprint (yet) but I also have no desire to extend my contract with them, which is the whole reason they come out with the newest and fastest so quickly.
So, I've decided I'm not taking the bait. In a few months, I will be a contract free Hero owner and plan to enjoy the peace of mind of knowing I can tell Sprint to go **** themselves whenever I please.
I'm thinking of coming over from an iPhone 3gs and although I love this phone, I think a robust custom ROM scene is a must for me. I tried the Captivate, but the broken GPS and bad AT&T service was enough for me to return it and wait and see how the Epic 4g works out.
I know the Evo has a lot more attention, but I'm not really willing to give it a go with all of its nasty hardware flaws.
Thoughts? Maybe I should just wait for a different phone (but I love this one >_>)?
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I'm thinking of coming over from an iPhone 3gs and although I love this phone, I think a robust custom ROM scene is a must for me. I tried the Captivate, but the broken GPS and bad AT&T service was enough for me to return it and wait and see how the Epic 4g works out.
I know the Evo has a lot more attention, but I'm not really willing to give it a go with all of its nasty hardware flaws.
Thoughts? Maybe I should just wait for a different phone (but I love this one >_>)?
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The Evo has a been scene because Developers got a free one in the last Google I/O. The Epic 4G will take sometime until a fully development community is in place. By that time there will be better phones, since we are near Christmas.
This is a really good point. Hmm, I have some thinking to do I suppose.
That was a pretty ridiculous reply on which to base your opinion. Of course there will be custom ROMs. There's one about to be released any day now, and this phone's only been out for about 5 minutes. This is a killer device... the chefs will come out of the woodwork shortly. They always do.
P.S. See here.
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That was a pretty ridiculous reply on which to base your opinion. Of course there will be custom ROMs. There's one about to be released any day now, and this phone's only been out for about 5 minutes. This is a killer device... the chefs will come out of the woodwork shortly. They always do.
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+1 on this one...
Sent From The Moon...
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+1 on this one...
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+2, heh... Hardware flaws aye, well my evo is pretty much flawless...
No offense, but you kinda sound like your talking out of your @ss & need to do your homework... The epic community will grow rampant in due time...Not trying to sound like every other flaming jerk, but err, ahh...
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I know this is near impossible, but I'm hoping for a ROM with HTC Sense element support. I want me some flipping clock action.
The Moment still has a rom scene and that thing is a disaster that Samsung flat out refused to fix (ie: They couldn't and just abandoned the unit).
I have a feeling the GPS issue is actually solvable on the Epic and I'm praying so is the nasty power usage killing peoples batteries when they want to do crazy stuff like use the phone for something other than making a phone call.
The only concerning thing is the stupid upload cap that makes absolutely no sense. I mean, Samsung HAD to learn a lesson from MomentGate right? They HAVE to actually support this... Rite?
If the EVO HD becomes a reality, Which ROM Developers are going to switch? I am not changing my EVO for anything unless I know some of the big guns are changing as well!!!
I tried searching for a similar thread and came up with nothing. If this question has already been asked, then I apologize.
evo hd????? or evo 3D???
how would anyone really know.. till more info. and it is released???
me.. i wait till 1-3 months after release.. see how the dev section is doing... then decide.
You will probably get more responses in Q&A.
What if the Evo 3D was nothing more then and Evo with 3D capabilties. I see a sluggish Evo in hand . I wand an Evo 2 with dual core stand alone gpu for graphics and gaming. Netflix app, the freaking works. Who cares about 3D.
I have seen this question asked many times before. I also agree with others when they said that is a foolish reason to get a phone. You want what you want and that is your right though.
the evo 3d is the LG optimus 3D no? dual core... dual 5mp cameras, glasses free 3d, 1080p? sign me up
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I have seen this question asked many times before. I also agree with others when they said that is a foolish reason to get a phone. You want what you want and that is your right though.
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its foolish to get a phone that has a strong dev community?
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No, some people basing their decision to buy a phone solely on if cyanogen is going to make roms for it. That's an example but similar. I would think someone would want a phone for more common reasons. People's priorities are different, this is true.
I agree with the OP. I don't want a phone that doesn't have a strong Dev community. I've been fortunate so far in that my first smartphone was the Moment, which has a ton of devs over at SDX, and then I quickly traded that in for the Evo, which has an awesome Dev community here.
I have to say, though, if the Evo 3D has the sames specs as the Optimus, I will be tempted. I just wish this whole 3D fad would pass already, so they could just focus on making high quality, high spec phones.
Can the LG 3d be able to turn 3d off ibwouldnt see why so those who arent fans of it can just turn it off
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No, some people basing their decision to buy a phone solely on if cyanogen is going to make roms for it. That's an example but similar. I would think someone would want a phone for more common reasons. People's priorities are different, this is true.
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i want a phone that has big dev support. that is my wants .
and does it not mean... both are mutually exclusive? there is not one with out the other? devs will most likely flock to the phone that has great potential and specs.
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Serious question on serious time. Why the hell doesn't samsung wanna help us port CM7 to our epic's or anything for that matter? they give a CM7 team dev a SGSII but wont let us port CM7? our freakin epic's are gonna be end of the line not to long from now. it's been what 2years+ for this phone?
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by all means whats going on?!?! where like the ONLY phone who doesn't have these things. (MIUI,CM7, True AOSP, Ext...)
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Serious question on serious time. Why the hell doesn't samsung wanna help us port CM7 to our epic's or anything for that matter? they give a CM7 team dev a SGSII but wont let us port CM7? our freakin epic's are gonna be end of the line not to long from now. it's been what 2years+ for this phone?
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Don't know ..but there trying to do so with the galaxy s2..perhaps they don't care
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Serious question on serious time. Why the hell doesn't samsung wanna help us port CM7 to our epic's or anything for that matter? they give a CM7 team dev a SGSII but wont let us port CM7? our freakin epic's are gonna be end of the line not to long from now. it's been what 2years+ for this phone?
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Actually, September will be 1 year for this phone.
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Serious question on serious time. Why the hell doesn't samsung wanna help us port CM7 to our epic's or anything for that matter? they give a CM7 team dev a SGSII but wont let us port CM7? our freakin epic's are gonna be end of the line not to long from now. it's been what 2years+ for this phone?
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Perhaps official GB will help answer this question. Most Dev's have pointed out they're awaiting source to continue Development on these ROM's and/or ports. If we dnt move forward in development once official GB drops, along with source, then that's when we should really panic IMO. I feel you tho, our phones are top of the line but with such things lacking, it really makes it frustrating for us to believe as such.
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yeah i keep thinking it's been longer too... then i call sprint to ask about my upgrade and I am brutally reminded...
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Serious question on serious time. Why the hell doesn't samsung wanna help us port CM7 to our epic's or anything for that matter? they give a CM7 team dev a SGSII but wont let us port CM7? our freakin epic's are gonna be end of the line not to long from now. it's been what 2years+ for this phone?
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Why WOULD Samsung want to help us extend the lives of our phones? Can you answer that? They want to make money. They have probably the nicest Android phone for at least the next 6 months hitting market this summer and all indications are that it will supported fully by developers. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot and give 10 million Galaxy S owners a reason NOT to upgrade to their latest and greatest superphone?
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Why WOULD Samsung want to help us extend the lives of our phones? Can you answer that? They want to make money. They have probably the nicest Android phone for at least the next 6 months hitting market this summer and all indications are that it will supported fully by developers. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot and give 10 million Galaxy S owners a reason NOT to upgrade to their latest and greatest superphone?
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muyoso said:
Why WOULD Samsung want to help us extend the lives of our phones? Can you answer that? They want to make money. They have probably the nicest Android phone for at least the next 6 months hitting market this summer and all indications are that it will supported fully by developers. Why would they shoot themselves in the foot and give 10 million Galaxy S owners a reason NOT to upgrade to their latest and greatest super phone?
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Thank you for the obvious statement. I wish I was as smart as you.
As to your rhetorical question, by helping there BUYERS and FANS, they become far more reputable by doing so. it seems pretty obvious that they wanted CM7 ported for one reason. which we should know already.
I think Samsung missed the chance to be more open. They draaaaaagggged their feet with froyo, completely bungling the whole ordeal, and squandered a HUGE chance with the HTC locked bootloader fiasco. If they had gotten a release out (even a semi-borked one or leaked build with source) that the community could have rallied around, it would have been much easier to take advantage of HTC dabbling in locked bootloaders. Instead they dropped the ball. Now HTC has felt the backlash and recovered. They might lose a few customers at launch on the Evo 3D but they will get them back when/if they update it to be more open.
Samsung earned a lot of respect from me by releasing the source before EB13 was actually rolled out, so that I was running a custom overclocked ROM before my friends with un-rooted Epics had froyo. But it was very very close to too little, too late, and past the point of squandered opportunity.
That said, I still think the Evo 3D is a gimmick phone, and will be taking a wait and see approach for the next 6-8 months.
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Serious question on serious time. Why the hell doesn't samsung wanna help us port CM7 to our epic's or anything for that matter? they give a CM7 team dev a SGSII but wont let us port CM7? our freakin epic's are gonna be end of the line not to long from now. it's been what 2years+ for this phone?
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I feel you frustration my friend. I don't have the answer for you. What I do know is that apparently Samsung has learned from their mistakes with the Epic and have addressed them with the GSII devices. However, why they don't "fix" the mistakes made with the Epic is a mystery to me.
The only advice I can offer is that as frustrating as it is to have our investment not properly supported it is just a phone in the end. I have recently realized just how stressful this whole phone thing is anymore. Perhaps once CM7 is ported to the GSII it will help pave the way to get it on our Epic's. I don't know as I'm not well versed in CM7.
Sorry if this doesn't help but if you have a specific question, I will relay it to SamsungJohn when I speak with him next.
@-ptfmedic actually it's the reason why i'm ranting. I've never used CM7 before!
So ptf your getting a SGSII? if money allows it?
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@-ptfmedic actually it's the reason why i'm ranting. I've never used CM7 before!
So ptf your getting a SGSII? if money allows it?
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At some point that would be the goal. WAY better investment the the Evo, at least IMO. The frustrating part is that the Epic has SO much life left and people are moving on. Freakin Best Buy is clearencing the Nexus 4G already. It's $49.00 and I don't even know what to say to that.
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At some point that would be the goal. WAY better investment the the Evo, at least IMO. The frustrating part is that the Epic has SO much life left and people are moving on. Freakin Best Buy is clearencing the Nexus 4G already. It's $49.00 and I don't even know what to say to that.
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Are you sure it's not just a sale?
In any case Best Buy can't push mobile phones the way the actual carriers can.. I've heard the Nexus S 4G is one of Sprint's best selling phones, no not the best but one of.
Let's face it how many of us go to Best Buy when it's time for a new phone...
On a side note... don't let the Nexus S fool you. I drank the Nexus kool-aid, and it's pretty much the most fantastic Android experience I've ever had.
Once you go Nexus you might not ever want anything but the next Nexus... I know that's what happened to me, and I originally bought it thinking I would sell it after checking it out and make a quick dollar (was able to get it 200 off contract). Activated it for a few days and the tune changed entirely It's got it's quirks (no sd?! no 720p?!) but it really is very very good.
am i missing a huge story here? is samsung harassing the ppl who are working on porting cm to the epic?
or are you suggesting that samsung should take their own time to port it over, breaking countless agreements with sprint.
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At some point that would be the goal. WAY better investment the the Evo, at least IMO. The frustrating part is that the Epic has SO much life left and people are moving on. Freakin Best Buy is clearencing the Nexus 4G already. It's $49.00 and I don't even know what to say to that.
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are you sure its on clearance? i just checked the website and it says 149.00 upgrade or 99.99 new line
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am i missing a huge story here? is samsung harassing the ppl who are working on porting cm to the epic?
or are you suggesting that samsung should take their own time to port it over, breaking countless agreements with sprint.
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To develope stuff like cm7 for any phone. You need the hardware drivers. Its the stuff that tells us how the core parts work and operate.
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It's not in Samsung's interests to do any more to aid the development community than to release source code (which they are already obligated to do, they just do it sooner than they have to). We are not a large enough minority to hurt their bottom line while being the most expensive since we are most likely to brick our phones somehow and lie our way to a free replacement.
Samsung has engineers that are educated and gets 200 grand a year.
You, "developers", just copy machine. They don't care about you, you are a themer, hacker, and modifier. Many people in the CyanogenMod and Linux kernel team have a degree in computer science/software engineering.. if you are asking for help, you are clearly not a developer..
noobnl said:
Samsung has engineers that are educated and gets 200 grand a year.
You, "developers", just copy machine. They don't care about you, you are a themer, hacker, and modifier. Many people in the CyanogenMod and Linux kernel team have a degree in computer science/software engineering.. if you are asking for help, you are clearly not a developer..
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I don't believe they're asking for help w/ porting CM7, I believe they're wondering why Samsung won't be more cooperative and open with source code and drivers so the 'developers' can work.
And, for the record, I don't disagree with your statement, I'm just clarifying.
the only help samsung can give at this point is to release a GB source!
https://opensource.samsung.com/
With less and less devs working on the Evo 4G nowadays, I ask, is Evo 4G officially being forced to retire? I myself even went to check on upgrading to the 3VO. It's no fun without any new Roms to play with. Being a flashoholic, I'm suffering from withdrawal, and it's hard to deal with.
What exactly leads you to say that devs are no longer supporting the EVO 4G? The development forum seems as hopping as ever to me.
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What exactly leads you to say that devs are no longer supporting the EVO 4G? The development forum seems as hopping as ever to me.
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Check out the latest updates. I've seen only two in the last few days. Look at the 3D forum, it's on fire.
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Check out the latest updates. I've seen only two in the last few days. Look at the 3D forum, it's on fire.
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Newer devices are going to have more support than older.
However, it's also true that the source code for Gingerbread for the Evo was only released a few days ago.
This Guy must have missed the development thread....
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I don’t know, it looks like we shall be set free, in good time but in a "registered" kind of way. At least that is what I am getting from 3D forums and the f+Bk page.
I could be wrong about all of this, but to me, the writing is on the wall. I really feel the demise of EVO 4G, as far as development standpoint. The latest talks is that most of the devs are jumping ship. I mean, can you really blame them. Great phone that has been improved. I've even seen what could be called a collection plates to get certain devs 3VOs. No disrespect to anyone doing. Hard/good work should not go without its just reward.
I think there just isn't anything new really other then kernels no new OS atm to play we have sense up to 3.0 and why port much much more? I do see improvments in each ROM though just slower EVO 3d is hoping cause they don't have anything
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ckoadiyn said:
I think there just isn't anything new really other then kernels no new OS atm to play we have sense up to 3.0 and why port much much more? I do see improvments in each ROM though just slower EVO 3d is hoping cause they don't have anything
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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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I have to agree here. I think a lot of people have gotten into the habit of changing ROMs on a way too frequent basis, to the point where they're switching weekly with 4-6 Nandroid backups of different ROMs so they can jump around as much as they want.
That list above is the true goal of Android development. If I find a good ROM, and there's relatively little bugs (especially less than stock), looks great, gives me something flashy (like Sense 3.0) I can be satisfied for months at a time, not even updating most of that time.
Unless there is something that has yet to be perfected on the EVO, development could halt right now and it wouldn't hurt what we already have. Look at all the things that's been done for the EVO since release:
Wireless N
HDMI-to-TV mirroring
Hacked hotspot
Notification bar power controls
4G on CM7
Hacked Hulu (which is now pointless, but eh)
...and more I just can't remember right now because I haven't had my morning coffee yet. The EVO has actually evolved (no pun intended) over the last year and 2 months, and like any piece of hardware, we're going to reach the limits. But the EVO has shaped the future of Android forever, and that's what we need to remember most.
Our community has created some of the most amazing pieces of code Android has ever seen, and that will only get better with the 3D. Time to move on...if I had the money, I'd get the 3D too, but that's just because I can't root my replacement EVO...
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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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That is my point. We have reached the pinnacle, when it comes to development for the EVO. As a dev, why wouldn't you feel it's time to move on? Their work here is done. The writing is on the wall guys. The most they can do is make minor mods here. The next challenge is 3VO or some other device. I will not mention those other devices by name, I am EVO.
I think there's a huge difference between "end of dev cycle" and "device is on last breath".
Is your evo having any problems running anything? Are you not on the latest android 2.3.5?
CM still has nightlies, miui still has weeklies, only thing really slower is sense and the only one to blame there is htc (and possibly yourself for wasting your time with sense).
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I think there's a huge difference between "end of dev cycle" and "device is on last breath".
Is your evo having any problems running anything? Are you not on the latest android 2.3.5?
CM still has nightlies, miui still has weeklies, only thing really slower is sense and the only one to blame there is htc (and possibly yourself for wasting your time with sense).
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I completely agree here. My EVO is doing everything I could possibly want! We "may" be seeing the end of OS development for this phone, but now their concentrating on kernels now that the source has been out for a couple of weeks.
I think saying last breath is alittle strong. As far as anything else that can be developed rom-wise maybe. This is still going to be a serviceable phone for quite some time. If you are a person with flash issues you might have a problem. To me once kernels get perfected you shouldn't have to flash like a maniac anyway. Honestly I think the only other thing to perfect now is hdmi and personally I could care less but that's just me. I'm going 3d later this month and the Mrs gets my OG EVO. For her this will be a beast of a phone. Writing on the wall yes, last breath, far from it.
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djwalter said:
I think saying last breath is alittle strong. As far as anything else that can be developed rom-wise maybe. This is still going to be a serviceable phone for quite some time. If you are a person with flash issues you might have a problem. To me once kernels get perfected you shouldn't have to flash like a maniac anyway. Honestly I think the only other thing to perfect now is hdmi and personally I could care less but that's just me. I'm going 3d later this month and the Mrs gets my OG EVO. For her this will be a beast of a phone. Writing on the wall yes, last breath, far from it.
Peace
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I do not believe this statement is too strong at all. Technology moves at a very rapid pace. Once something hits the shelves it's already old technology. Lets take the iPad (yes, I dare to mention this) for example. This was once a revolutionary product, except now, we have the Tablet, the Eee Pad, the iPad2, etc. You yourself even call it by the name OG EVO, which usually signifies something old. So yes, SIR, I do dare say that the EVO is on its last breath.
P.S Trade-in your EVO for a $125 credit toward the 3VO
I guess we look at last breath differently. To me last breath means no more support. Apps no longer supported etc. But we are different people and view things differently.
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