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So I was browsing the forums yesterday eating leftover christmas food. I literally spent some time on diff development sections and noticed the EVO has an AMAZING community. I am an epic 4g owner and can't help but admire the amount of development, the bountys to get certain feautures and roms going.
There are also many other popular devices like the i9000, nexus one, g2. MY question is, what is the most popular phone with the most active DEVELOPMENT on XDA? Is it EVO? NEXUS? Who is the king of the hill?
Also, what phone is the successor in terms of development is it nexus s?g2?
the evo has a pretty deep community, in my opinion one of the best, i would also say that the motorola phones have good support and both nexus phones will continue to have very strong support. You can't go wrong with an evo in terms of the community and yes i have heard the epic has very scarce pickings
LoveisPeace2012 said:
So I was browsing the forums yesterday eating leftover christmas food. I literally spent some time on diff development sections and noticed the EVO has an AMAZING community. I am an epic 4g owner and can't help but admire the amount of development, the bountys to get certain feautures and roms going.
There are also many other popular devices like the i9000, nexus one, g2. MY question is, what is the most popular phone with the most active DEVELOPMENT on XDA? Is it EVO? NEXUS? Who is the king of the hill?
Also, what phone is the successor in terms of development is it nexus s?g2?
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Go check out the CDMA hero. It still has an incredible amount of dev support for being a "legacy" device. I chose the Evo over the epic essentially for the community here. I had a couple of bad experiences over in the epic subforum and decided that was enough.
I own an EVO 4g, and I absolutely love it, I never turn off my phone, has long lasting batteries, and fosure runs great with the custom ROMs and kernels we have here from XDA.
If you get an EVO, make sure your absolutely setting time aside for your new EVO as it can be devastating not to correctly root your EVO the right way. Good luck.
alekosy said:
I own an EVO 4g, and I absolutely love it, I never turn off my phone, has long lasting batteries, and fosure runs great with the custom ROMs and kernels we have here from XDA.
If you get an EVO, make sure your absolutely setting time aside for your new EVO as it can be devastating not to correctly root your EVO the right way. Good luck.
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Yea, I really want to be on a device that people actually care about not just having the best hardware
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i can't speak for any other phones in regards to that, but i can tell you the evo has that, plus some trolls thrown in for good measure. you know you have arrived when you get trolls
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Yea, I really want to be on a device that people actually care about not just having the best hardware
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king is a strong word, but I think its one of the more preferred android devices just because of the potential power it has with the hardware, also it has a very strong community backing both on xda and devs websites. Not to mention the sprint network was rated #2 with consumer reports even beating out Verizon in some aspects. I know when the time comes to choose a new phone I want to make sure cyanogen has roms for it because I love CM!!!
To answer your question, I'd say it's fairly tied up between the EVO and Nexus One... Maybe even the Droid coming in a close third place.
I had an Epic 4G, I was impatient and went out and bought one the day they came out....ANYWAY....I then took my Epic back because it was a lemon....I had the Hero before my Epic and I knew the community was awesome for HTC Devices and I remember using Flipz ROM's on my Hero and remembered he went to the Evo so I returned my Epic, much to the dismay and whining of the Radioshack employees. I then went to a Sprint store a week later and got luck they had an Evo. I havent looked back since!
Having been new to android, at the time of puchase of my Evo, I feel lucky to have chosen a device that has garnered such significant support n the development community. I got my Evo on day one solely on the fact that I knew this would be the best phone ever to touch the sprint network. With all the benifits of the Epic (hummingbird, amoled, & cam), having the likes of toast, cyanogen, caulkin, flip, myn, netchry, shinzul and all the other devs responsible for the awesome romz, kernals and themes make the Evo (and other similarly supported devices) king in the mobile world. I will base all my future mobile device purchases (phones & tablets) on whether they have similar support. I'd suggest everyone else do the same!
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Despite the technological advances of other devices....there has yet to be a device that has 4G, HDMI, a 4.3in screen, a large dev community, front facing cam, 720p recording, kickstand and the great build quality that the Evo has....so in my opinion yes the evo is still king...android 2.3 means nothing when u have devs that can port it over in a matter of hours....
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These are all of the reasons that Im looking forward to getting rid of my galaxy s and grabbing an evo.
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skinien said:
These are all of the reasons that Im looking forward to getting rid of my galaxy s and grabbing an evo.
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Really? With the Nexus S coming up, the Galaxy S devices should be getting more dev work.
And I wish I could go to a Galaxy S phone. lol. I don't like the Evo's GPU.
True can't change that however there is a great community and some pretty sweet software to run on her though
patelkedar91 said:
Really? With the Nexus S coming up, the Galaxy S devices should be getting more dev work.
And I wish I could go to a Galaxy S phone. lol. I don't like the Evo's GPU.
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I got a hold of a Nexus One about a week and a half ago. After messing around with it on XDA, if we're talking about the depth and especially quality of community support, the Nexus One wins.
Phone-wise the EVO would be the best if device IMO if not for the GPU weakness. All the features in the world just doesn't make up for something that's now so crucial for a smart phone. The EVO just came out at a bad time -- right at the end of the first gen Snapdragon. That's my own view, you might disagree so leave it at that.
I've just rooted my phone and had it since launch day. The Evo was running stock for 5 months and was getting bored w/ it. I was extremely intimidated of rooting till I found unrevoked 3. Thanks to the xda community, I've become infatuated w/ this phone and I'm constantly flashing it
I Just got my Evo this Christams eve. I used to be pretty deep into the Hero communty and was loving their roms and kernals (much respect to deca and darch). After moving to the Evo its almost overwhelming to see the size of the dev community here, and this is just one site! And yeah I understand that the only real weakness is the GPU buy Ive always known that the first gen snapdragons can still hold their own even today.
To be honest the only things I have trouble with is deciding whether or not to use my rubber case that I got with it. I want to protect it but I love the build quality of this device.
The Evo 4g will run strong as one of the top three Android phones for a least another 6 months. Thats almost certain.
I just got my evo four days ago and I am in heaven. I actualy made the jump to android using the samsung moment. I hated the device but loved android. So then I went back to my tp2. I have always loved my htc devices I have had in the past so when I found out target had the evos for 99 dollars last week I put my moment up on craigslist for 100 and sold it that afternoon. Went straight to target. I think after 4 days I am ready to root now.
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I'm an epic user former hero user. I will say the epic is a beautiful phone with awesome hardware. The specs are definitely above what the evo has to offer but I enjoy trying different roms, talking with the community and just doing thing to improve my phones and the epic doesn't have that. The epic community also isn't as nice and helpful as the HTC community is, not even close. So in saying that I am actually going to be trading my Epic with a friend that has an Evo. I'm sure I will miss somethings about the Epic but I won't miss Samsung jerking us on updates and the just plain nasty demeanor of the Epic community folks.
Only a matter of time before the Nexus S takes over in dev. support. =(
I just thought I'd post the Wirefly Review of the phone since it actually shows it hands-on. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1IhrSjMy0Q&feature=feedu
Wirefly reviews are biased. They sell the product. They won't bash anything they're selling.
hah 'this guy'
good looking out on the link
akarol said:
Wirefly reviews are biased. They sell the product. They won't bash anything they're selling.
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+1 definitely biased
Biased or not, I was more interested in the phone itself. I liked the display and you could see some 3D effect when he hovered over the fake card. The camera on the back looks like an old cassette tape though.
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Wirefly reviews are biased. They sell the product. They won't bash anything they're selling.
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What reviews aren't biased?
Tapa tapa tapa
"and if you want a thrill, you can go WHEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"
I hate to be the negative guy but im really not that impressed. I don't feel like I should leave my evo for it; my upgrade is in September and im hoping they have something better. It just doesn't "wow" me like it does for everyone else.
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What reviews aren't biased?
Tapa tapa tapa
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I ask myself that often. There are few who do leave their personal preferences out.
dirkyd3rk said:
I hate to be the negative guy but im really not that impressed. I don't feel like I should leave my evo for it; my upgrade is in September and im hoping they have something better. It just doesn't "wow" me like it does for everyone else.
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Is it lacking somewhere for you, what would've been the extra or different push to pry the old EVO from you?
I have to admit, I've gotten a bit comfortable now with the MikG 2.1 3.0 update but its making this EVO easier to sell for me towards getting it.
I'm in the same boat as you. I feel the whole 3D thing is a phase that won't last. 3D got big in the 50s then faded out now its back. It will fade again. I also don't like all the new hardware buttons.
I would honestly like to see an EVO 2. Same basic design (except the poke out camera) yet with better hardware. I really love everything about this phone. I used to sell phones so I've had them all and haven't ever been happy. This phone really struck every chord with me. I got mine on release date and swapped for a 004 and its the longest I've ever had the same style phone. I plan to hold on to it untill something comes out that really fits the bill.
I will play with an EVO 3D though
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I do want the Evo 3D but the SGSII is calling me. I know everyone hates sammy but im loving that phone.
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knowledge561 said:
I do want the Evo 3D but the SGSII is calling me. I know everyone hates sammy but im loving that phone.
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I don't hate Samsung phones. I just wish they spent more time with them updates and stuff. As far as reliability its like any other phone. Luck of the draw.
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I want to see if they launch any dual cores greater than 1.2 ghz before the the end of the year. Realistically 1ghz is perfect for what I use my phone for but might as well go all out lol. Ill just use my evo until I figure it out but im not getting evo 3D.
I will be getting this phone.
1. It's HTC
2. It has a great design and I actually like that its a bit taller and slim.
3. It's what I want in an upgrade
4. Construction looks sturdy and well built.
5. It's an HTC.
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There are a few selling points to this phone that help lift it, theoretically, over the Evo. My largest concern is the same concern that plagued the Evo, however:
Battery life.
I understand that you can activate 3D at whim, but I'm more interested in the effect Sense 3 has on battery, and how much those dual 1.2s will actually help. Ultimately, I'd need to see reviews before I even give this a look. Until then, SGS II is more on my radar than anything else.
Something else that comes to mind is it's lack of access to the PlayStation Store (or w/e it's called.) I know it's obvious that HTC doesn't have access to itbut I'm a gamer at heart and once they put out a HDMI-mirroring device with PS1 titles I'll probably blow a load, and all of the money in my wallet. (emulators don't count... unless they run on HDMI at decent speeds.)
dirkyd3rk said:
I hate to be the negative guy but im really not that impressed. I don't feel like I should leave my evo for it; my upgrade is in September and im hoping they have something better. It just doesn't "wow" me like it does for everyone else.
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I feel pretty much the same way.
Rvinfinite said:
There are a few selling points to this phone that help lift it, theoretically, over the Evo. My largest concern is the same concern that plagued the Evo, however:
Battery life.
I understand that you can activate 3D at whim, but I'm more interested in the effect Sense 3 has on battery, and how much those dual 1.2s will actually help. Ultimately, I'd need to see reviews before I even give this a look. Until then, SGS II is more on my radar than anything else.
Something else that comes to mind is it's lack of access to the PlayStation Store (or w/e it's called.) I know it's obvious that HTC doesn't have access to itbut I'm a gamer at heart and once they put out a HDMI-mirroring device with PS1 titles I'll probably blow a load, and all of the money in my wallet. (emulators don't count... unless they run on HDMI at decent speeds.)
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After using a Sense 3.0 rom im not so sure that the battery life is going to improve as compared to being a little bit better for what youre getting. Every Sense 3.0 rom ive run has killed the battery amazingly fast. I think they had to make the battery bigger because if they didnt, with as much of a memory hog as the rom would be the battery probably wouldve been even worse than the Evo.
I was all about this phone for the longest time until I started seeing some of the reviews for it. Its just another evo, with some extra bells and whistles. I love my evo, of course, but to shell out money for another one a year before my upgrade, I don't see it happening. Plus I can live without a 3D screen. I guess we'll see in a few weeks.
Would the dual-core processor help battery life or hurt it? I can see it one of two ways, the processor doesnt have to work as hard, OR the battery has to power A DUAL-CORE PROCESSOR.
Meh,not that impressed.I think i'll pass.
SGS2 here i come!
Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
"Hell I don't know anymore"
Don't really see roms disappeared anywhere, and yes many people got the 3vo but it still wasn't ROM per day before the 3vo, just give it time till devs find new and better things to put on ROMs
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Not saying any roms have "disappeared" just seems the updating and developing in the 4G arena had slowed down quite a bit.
bronxknight28 said:
Don't really see roms disappeared anywhere, and yes many people got the 3vo but it still wasn't ROM per day before the 3vo, just give it time till devs find new and better things to put on ROMs
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selders59 said:
Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
"Hell I don't know anymore"
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Really? If it is worth crying over why don't you start developing for your phone? These devs do this for fun and free. They don't owe you anything or have to develop on the basis that there is still a large user base. You are not entitled to anything.
Leaning the kitchen is definitely the way to go. That way you can take the best of what you like, and it in.
Much more satisfying too.
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I just see more quality roms
I don't think the OP is ranting against developers, I believe he's ranting against the EVO3D for just existing. least that's the way I saw it.
dschoenike
selders59 said:
Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
"Hell I don't know anymore"
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1. dude lets face it the evo 4g is now free at many places like target mobile..
2. The Evo 4g while a good phone is now end of life as it has been replaced... Its the way it goes.... We are lucky that the phone was not replaced after about 3 to 6 months. We got a year of updates.... from htc and sprint....
3. why dont you just go and get the evo 3d like i am in november for me...
4. why dont you just root and place some sort of evo 3d rom on your phone... granted it will be slow because of having to use the transflash card for everything.... since you need atleast a 2gb partition on it as ext3
You have definitely taken this wrong. And I have NEVER said the devs.owe us anything. Just making an observation. So don't try to inject things into my words that I am not stating.
Rem3Dy said:
Really? If it is worth crying over why don't you start developing for your phone? These devs do this for fun and free. They don't owe you anything or have to develop on the basis that there is still a large user base. You are not entitled to anything.
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"Hell I don't know anymore"
IMO, I love HTC, but the hardware changes aren't worth me wasting my upgrade right now. I'll just wait for Fiscal Q1 2012 when everything will have major changes.
for example:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-quad-core-android-tablet-codenamed-kal-el-video/
that's a major hardware change from everything else. That would make me upgrade no problem....
I'm not saying from eVo to 3vO isn't an upgrade, just not enough for me
Man I can definitely see everyone does not read this correctly. It was just made as an observation and that was it. As for getting a 3D like I said the cost is nothing, as if and when I decide to get a 3D I will be purchasing more than one. My issue is Performance wise and I have tested it side by side at Sprint with my phone running virus's B1.3 rom. And even the tech I know there said outside of the 3D pics and videos, the processor just a hair bigger, and the increase in memory there really was not a significant difference in the performance. As he even stated that the rom I am using runs and makes transitions just as smooth as the 3D.
So I think I will just hold off til something with some more significant changes in software and hardware comes out before I use my upgrades or money on.
"Hell I don't know anymore"
I think the bottom line is a combination of factors.
The devs have done 2.1 and 2.2 pretty much to death.
AOSP, Sense 3.0, and GB are more intriguing to more and more people, but there is a lack of source code.
There are other higher-profile projects for devs, including rooting 2.3 and, yes, rooting and developing for the 3D.
But I agree with the other suggestions that you look into cooking your own ROMs, or maybe get into app development. That's what I'm doing, but it's also just for fun. Be creative. Just make a nandroid first.
Progress is a *****. Get over it.
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IMO, I love HTC, but the hardware changes aren't worth me wasting my upgrade right now. I'll just wait for Fiscal Q1 2012 when everything will have major changes.
for example:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-quad-core-android-tablet-codenamed-kal-el-video/
that's a major hardware change from everything else. That would make me upgrade no problem....
I'm not saying from eVo to 3vO isn't an upgrade, just not enough for me
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I want to believe this is true but I think it's all speculation for quad cores coming to phones when dual cores are barely being introduced to some phones...Evo 3D being one of them. I agree though, I'm waiting until an ice cream sandwich phone (from someone other than Samsung) comes out..or a phone with higher specs to come out before I even consider getting a new phone.
I can see your comment is a suggestion as to your IQ gumbo. It really is surprising when people take observations you make as "crying" then post highly intellectural comments like "get over it" . ROFLMAO you make me laugh.
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Progress is a *****. Get over it.
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"Hell I don't know anymore"
Once the kernel source is released we will see more development. Other than the original android phone the "G1" the EVO has seen major development over other phones and continues to do so. The EVO has had quit a run in my opinion. How many other phones get a update after a year of service? Not many. Once we see a non 3d version of the dual core I personally will be upgrading. For now I believe the shift ports are giving the EVO one more run.
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I see it the same as SilverZero. It's not the Evo 3D or any other new sexy phone that's slowing ROM development. It's simply that Froyo's been done and still no source code for Gingerbread. So, things are slow. That said, I still see a lot of port successes (and failures) in Development and incremental tweaks on existing GB roms.
What would you like to see?
OP, just flash Synergy Rom and call it a day. It's the smoothed, zippiest Rom I have ever flashed. There's no denying it. With Synergy Rom on my EVO 4G, it's absolutely keeping me from getting the EVO 3D. It's that good.
I'm gonna hold off on upgrading for a little while at least three to six months to see what else is gonna become available.
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OP, just flash Synergy Rom and call it a day. It's the smoothed, zippiest Rom I have ever flashed. There's no denying it. With Synergy Rom on my EVO 4G, it's absolutely keeping me from getting the EVO 3D. It's that good.
I'm gonna hold off on upgrading for a little while at least three to six months to see what else is gonna become available.
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+1 on Synergy, & I'm waiting for whenever the WiThin drops before I even think of making any decision to get rid of my EVO. I even still have my Epic sitting unactivated. Decisions decisions LOL
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Folks don't take me wrong, the 3D is an advancement and the developers here are top notch and so are a majority of the members. I have made and will continue to make donations to this site and the devs both in support and financially. I just know there are allot of folks still going to keep their evo's for awhile more and would hate to see the loss of further rom developing for our devices. If I had the knowledge and time to get into developing I would for the community. But I don't. As running a business and being part of several organizations for handicapped children takes up most of my time besides my own family. I apologize if this thread has been tasken by some in the wrong context.
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+1 on Synergy, & I'm waiting for whenever the WiThin drops before I even think of making any decision to get rid of my EVO. I even still have my Epic sitting unactivated. Decisions decisions LOL
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And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!
Beautiful
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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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That's a good point. A friend of mine just got the 3D. He came from a Windows mobile phone. He has been going on and on about it but the stuff that he likes are things that I have had on my rooted EVO for a while. I think his excitement is Android based and not based on that particular phone. I have compared mine and just can find enough reason to switch before I see what the development looks like. My rooted EVO is only a small step behind the stock 3D, IMO.
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And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!
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You got it! +1 on this one!
No real replacement for Evo until next year. It's hard to perfect perfection.
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upgrading to a newer android phone from the evo is just like upgrading from an iphone 3g to a 3gs, only slight differences.
Bad news... http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oodbye-to-the-htc-evo-4g-and-samsung-epic-4g/
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doesn't mean anything. just that sprint doesn't want it on its shelves anymore in order to sell their new devices.
I'm assuming HTC wants people to upgrade to either the 3D or the Kingdom when it releases as the Hero 4G under Sprint.
Rumor has it that the Kingdom will be a tad cheaper than the 3D. It's basically an Evo with a bigger screen and a worse camera but better hardware specs. It seems like it will be Sprint's new flagship model for some time and will probably be used to tempt all the people that are still happy with their Evo 4Gs out of hiding.
If the Evo 4+ makes it to sprint, that will be the one I am interested in...but only if I can have what I have now. I could only consider it a downgrade to go to a phone that can not do what my current phone does...really not interested if its faster...if it can't do all I have now damn the Evo is nice. I really can't think of another phone that after rooting can do. ALL the things I'm allowed to do due to the amazing development teams
I love my evo 4g
will only upgrade to a phone that's actually superior like 2.0ghz quadcore processer with 16 gig internal, 8 ram with like 1080 resolution screen 8 megapixel camera. 3 megapixel front camera and better gaming than nvidas kal-el chip
But as there aren't going to be any like that for a while I'll stick with what I've got
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I have an evo 4g and its a beast! Ill wait for when LTE phones come out
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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I agree. This whole HTC locking boot loaders is so people will go out and buy their next best device. Crap I tell ya.... Worst part is, when you do buy Another device, they'll just lock it later down the road... IDK.. that sounds kinda crazy eh? LOL
Anyways the EVO is an awesome device and glad I got it.
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MaxCarnage said:
HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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I don't go for the conspiracy theory that THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO LIKE YOUR PHONE. This is nonsense. The more you like it the more HTC phones you will buy, and the more you will recommend it to friends. The locking seems to be due to carrier pressure, because the carrier pays for the tech support calls when people screw them up when rooting, overclocking, etc. You call HTC with a screwed up phone and they will tell you to call Sprint ;-)
Just yesterday, the Evo3D root came out, and the instructions led many hundreds of people to have to call tech support to get the phone connected to the network again! This is no joke, I was one of those who called. One of the rooters asked the Sprint rep, and he said he had personally gotten close to 70 calls just yesterday with the same "Error 16" issue due to the new root procedure!
Beyond, that, I agree, EVO 4G rules. I got a 3D, and I do not like it as much as the OG.
AdamHart612 said:
Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I have never owned a g2x. I merely made this post because I feel it is the best well rounded phone for all my needs. HDMI mirroring really makes this shine. The wiimote app only gets used occasionally but still very sweet and it works just like I have a damn old school nes haha. It just fits me and HTC locking bootloaders lol. They will eventually get unlocked. Not a big deal. Then we will all forget about the 3 weeks spent with a horribly locked 3d/sensation lmao.
With less and less devs working on the Evo 4G nowadays, I ask, is Evo 4G officially being forced to retire? I myself even went to check on upgrading to the 3VO. It's no fun without any new Roms to play with. Being a flashoholic, I'm suffering from withdrawal, and it's hard to deal with.
What exactly leads you to say that devs are no longer supporting the EVO 4G? The development forum seems as hopping as ever to me.
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What exactly leads you to say that devs are no longer supporting the EVO 4G? The development forum seems as hopping as ever to me.
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Check out the latest updates. I've seen only two in the last few days. Look at the 3D forum, it's on fire.
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Check out the latest updates. I've seen only two in the last few days. Look at the 3D forum, it's on fire.
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Newer devices are going to have more support than older.
However, it's also true that the source code for Gingerbread for the Evo was only released a few days ago.
This Guy must have missed the development thread....
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I don’t know, it looks like we shall be set free, in good time but in a "registered" kind of way. At least that is what I am getting from 3D forums and the f+Bk page.
I could be wrong about all of this, but to me, the writing is on the wall. I really feel the demise of EVO 4G, as far as development standpoint. The latest talks is that most of the devs are jumping ship. I mean, can you really blame them. Great phone that has been improved. I've even seen what could be called a collection plates to get certain devs 3VOs. No disrespect to anyone doing. Hard/good work should not go without its just reward.
I think there just isn't anything new really other then kernels no new OS atm to play we have sense up to 3.0 and why port much much more? I do see improvments in each ROM though just slower EVO 3d is hoping cause they don't have anything
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ckoadiyn said:
I think there just isn't anything new really other then kernels no new OS atm to play we have sense up to 3.0 and why port much much more? I do see improvments in each ROM though just slower EVO 3d is hoping cause they don't have anything
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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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I have to agree here. I think a lot of people have gotten into the habit of changing ROMs on a way too frequent basis, to the point where they're switching weekly with 4-6 Nandroid backups of different ROMs so they can jump around as much as they want.
That list above is the true goal of Android development. If I find a good ROM, and there's relatively little bugs (especially less than stock), looks great, gives me something flashy (like Sense 3.0) I can be satisfied for months at a time, not even updating most of that time.
Unless there is something that has yet to be perfected on the EVO, development could halt right now and it wouldn't hurt what we already have. Look at all the things that's been done for the EVO since release:
Wireless N
HDMI-to-TV mirroring
Hacked hotspot
Notification bar power controls
4G on CM7
Hacked Hulu (which is now pointless, but eh)
...and more I just can't remember right now because I haven't had my morning coffee yet. The EVO has actually evolved (no pun intended) over the last year and 2 months, and like any piece of hardware, we're going to reach the limits. But the EVO has shaped the future of Android forever, and that's what we need to remember most.
Our community has created some of the most amazing pieces of code Android has ever seen, and that will only get better with the 3D. Time to move on...if I had the money, I'd get the 3D too, but that's just because I can't root my replacement EVO...
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Yeah, it is important to understand that the big rush in the beginning is:
1) Get root
2) Wait for Source code
3) Fix **** ups from the manufacturer
4) Make modifications [possibly from other devices] to improve Android overall.
It's been over a year, all that's been done. While improvements are still coming constantly...the bulk of that work for the Evo is, well, done.
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That is my point. We have reached the pinnacle, when it comes to development for the EVO. As a dev, why wouldn't you feel it's time to move on? Their work here is done. The writing is on the wall guys. The most they can do is make minor mods here. The next challenge is 3VO or some other device. I will not mention those other devices by name, I am EVO.
I think there's a huge difference between "end of dev cycle" and "device is on last breath".
Is your evo having any problems running anything? Are you not on the latest android 2.3.5?
CM still has nightlies, miui still has weeklies, only thing really slower is sense and the only one to blame there is htc (and possibly yourself for wasting your time with sense).
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I think there's a huge difference between "end of dev cycle" and "device is on last breath".
Is your evo having any problems running anything? Are you not on the latest android 2.3.5?
CM still has nightlies, miui still has weeklies, only thing really slower is sense and the only one to blame there is htc (and possibly yourself for wasting your time with sense).
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I completely agree here. My EVO is doing everything I could possibly want! We "may" be seeing the end of OS development for this phone, but now their concentrating on kernels now that the source has been out for a couple of weeks.
I think saying last breath is alittle strong. As far as anything else that can be developed rom-wise maybe. This is still going to be a serviceable phone for quite some time. If you are a person with flash issues you might have a problem. To me once kernels get perfected you shouldn't have to flash like a maniac anyway. Honestly I think the only other thing to perfect now is hdmi and personally I could care less but that's just me. I'm going 3d later this month and the Mrs gets my OG EVO. For her this will be a beast of a phone. Writing on the wall yes, last breath, far from it.
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djwalter said:
I think saying last breath is alittle strong. As far as anything else that can be developed rom-wise maybe. This is still going to be a serviceable phone for quite some time. If you are a person with flash issues you might have a problem. To me once kernels get perfected you shouldn't have to flash like a maniac anyway. Honestly I think the only other thing to perfect now is hdmi and personally I could care less but that's just me. I'm going 3d later this month and the Mrs gets my OG EVO. For her this will be a beast of a phone. Writing on the wall yes, last breath, far from it.
Peace
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I do not believe this statement is too strong at all. Technology moves at a very rapid pace. Once something hits the shelves it's already old technology. Lets take the iPad (yes, I dare to mention this) for example. This was once a revolutionary product, except now, we have the Tablet, the Eee Pad, the iPad2, etc. You yourself even call it by the name OG EVO, which usually signifies something old. So yes, SIR, I do dare say that the EVO is on its last breath.
P.S Trade-in your EVO for a $125 credit toward the 3VO
I guess we look at last breath differently. To me last breath means no more support. Apps no longer supported etc. But we are different people and view things differently.
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