So I was browsing the forums yesterday eating leftover christmas food. I literally spent some time on diff development sections and noticed the EVO has an AMAZING community. I am an epic 4g owner and can't help but admire the amount of development, the bountys to get certain feautures and roms going.
There are also many other popular devices like the i9000, nexus one, g2. MY question is, what is the most popular phone with the most active DEVELOPMENT on XDA? Is it EVO? NEXUS? Who is the king of the hill?
Also, what phone is the successor in terms of development is it nexus s?g2?
the evo has a pretty deep community, in my opinion one of the best, i would also say that the motorola phones have good support and both nexus phones will continue to have very strong support. You can't go wrong with an evo in terms of the community and yes i have heard the epic has very scarce pickings
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So I was browsing the forums yesterday eating leftover christmas food. I literally spent some time on diff development sections and noticed the EVO has an AMAZING community. I am an epic 4g owner and can't help but admire the amount of development, the bountys to get certain feautures and roms going.
There are also many other popular devices like the i9000, nexus one, g2. MY question is, what is the most popular phone with the most active DEVELOPMENT on XDA? Is it EVO? NEXUS? Who is the king of the hill?
Also, what phone is the successor in terms of development is it nexus s?g2?
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Go check out the CDMA hero. It still has an incredible amount of dev support for being a "legacy" device. I chose the Evo over the epic essentially for the community here. I had a couple of bad experiences over in the epic subforum and decided that was enough.
I own an EVO 4g, and I absolutely love it, I never turn off my phone, has long lasting batteries, and fosure runs great with the custom ROMs and kernels we have here from XDA.
If you get an EVO, make sure your absolutely setting time aside for your new EVO as it can be devastating not to correctly root your EVO the right way. Good luck.
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I own an EVO 4g, and I absolutely love it, I never turn off my phone, has long lasting batteries, and fosure runs great with the custom ROMs and kernels we have here from XDA.
If you get an EVO, make sure your absolutely setting time aside for your new EVO as it can be devastating not to correctly root your EVO the right way. Good luck.
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Yea, I really want to be on a device that people actually care about not just having the best hardware
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i can't speak for any other phones in regards to that, but i can tell you the evo has that, plus some trolls thrown in for good measure. you know you have arrived when you get trolls
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Yea, I really want to be on a device that people actually care about not just having the best hardware
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king is a strong word, but I think its one of the more preferred android devices just because of the potential power it has with the hardware, also it has a very strong community backing both on xda and devs websites. Not to mention the sprint network was rated #2 with consumer reports even beating out Verizon in some aspects. I know when the time comes to choose a new phone I want to make sure cyanogen has roms for it because I love CM!!!
To answer your question, I'd say it's fairly tied up between the EVO and Nexus One... Maybe even the Droid coming in a close third place.
I had an Epic 4G, I was impatient and went out and bought one the day they came out....ANYWAY....I then took my Epic back because it was a lemon....I had the Hero before my Epic and I knew the community was awesome for HTC Devices and I remember using Flipz ROM's on my Hero and remembered he went to the Evo so I returned my Epic, much to the dismay and whining of the Radioshack employees. I then went to a Sprint store a week later and got luck they had an Evo. I havent looked back since!
Having been new to android, at the time of puchase of my Evo, I feel lucky to have chosen a device that has garnered such significant support n the development community. I got my Evo on day one solely on the fact that I knew this would be the best phone ever to touch the sprint network. With all the benifits of the Epic (hummingbird, amoled, & cam), having the likes of toast, cyanogen, caulkin, flip, myn, netchry, shinzul and all the other devs responsible for the awesome romz, kernals and themes make the Evo (and other similarly supported devices) king in the mobile world. I will base all my future mobile device purchases (phones & tablets) on whether they have similar support. I'd suggest everyone else do the same!
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Despite the technological advances of other devices....there has yet to be a device that has 4G, HDMI, a 4.3in screen, a large dev community, front facing cam, 720p recording, kickstand and the great build quality that the Evo has....so in my opinion yes the evo is still king...android 2.3 means nothing when u have devs that can port it over in a matter of hours....
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These are all of the reasons that Im looking forward to getting rid of my galaxy s and grabbing an evo.
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These are all of the reasons that Im looking forward to getting rid of my galaxy s and grabbing an evo.
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Really? With the Nexus S coming up, the Galaxy S devices should be getting more dev work.
And I wish I could go to a Galaxy S phone. lol. I don't like the Evo's GPU.
True can't change that however there is a great community and some pretty sweet software to run on her though
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Really? With the Nexus S coming up, the Galaxy S devices should be getting more dev work.
And I wish I could go to a Galaxy S phone. lol. I don't like the Evo's GPU.
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I got a hold of a Nexus One about a week and a half ago. After messing around with it on XDA, if we're talking about the depth and especially quality of community support, the Nexus One wins.
Phone-wise the EVO would be the best if device IMO if not for the GPU weakness. All the features in the world just doesn't make up for something that's now so crucial for a smart phone. The EVO just came out at a bad time -- right at the end of the first gen Snapdragon. That's my own view, you might disagree so leave it at that.
I've just rooted my phone and had it since launch day. The Evo was running stock for 5 months and was getting bored w/ it. I was extremely intimidated of rooting till I found unrevoked 3. Thanks to the xda community, I've become infatuated w/ this phone and I'm constantly flashing it
I Just got my Evo this Christams eve. I used to be pretty deep into the Hero communty and was loving their roms and kernals (much respect to deca and darch). After moving to the Evo its almost overwhelming to see the size of the dev community here, and this is just one site! And yeah I understand that the only real weakness is the GPU buy Ive always known that the first gen snapdragons can still hold their own even today.
To be honest the only things I have trouble with is deciding whether or not to use my rubber case that I got with it. I want to protect it but I love the build quality of this device.
The Evo 4g will run strong as one of the top three Android phones for a least another 6 months. Thats almost certain.
I just got my evo four days ago and I am in heaven. I actualy made the jump to android using the samsung moment. I hated the device but loved android. So then I went back to my tp2. I have always loved my htc devices I have had in the past so when I found out target had the evos for 99 dollars last week I put my moment up on craigslist for 100 and sold it that afternoon. Went straight to target. I think after 4 days I am ready to root now.
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I'm an epic user former hero user. I will say the epic is a beautiful phone with awesome hardware. The specs are definitely above what the evo has to offer but I enjoy trying different roms, talking with the community and just doing thing to improve my phones and the epic doesn't have that. The epic community also isn't as nice and helpful as the HTC community is, not even close. So in saying that I am actually going to be trading my Epic with a friend that has an Evo. I'm sure I will miss somethings about the Epic but I won't miss Samsung jerking us on updates and the just plain nasty demeanor of the Epic community folks.
Only a matter of time before the Nexus S takes over in dev. support. =(
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So, how is the mytouch 4g gonna stack up against the new 4G Samsung with a front facing camera that was announced today?? Will the Samsung be better and is it really "REAL" 4G so non-T-Mo people can shut up.
Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
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I was talking about the mytouch 4g.
What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.
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What are you both delusional? specially Flonkas as MT4G beat that wannabe android device in every aspect. In this very forum under few threads down you may want to look at it. lol @ op for thinking Vibrant 4G and Vibrant is diff device.
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yeah the one differance is 4g and ffc which you can put a ffc in the original yourself. so really? HUGE upgrade -_- i cant wait for the new sidekick 4g though! i cant wait to get a new phone this one is ticking me off.
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I don't see why you feel the need to "lol" at me just for asking a question. Unless I didn't understand and you were just being funny. All I've read on the blogs all day today since it was announced is that it will be a better phone. I'm asking why and if that's true. That's all. Don't be such a snob. I found your reply flame-y and a little unnecessary. Again, IF you were trying to make fun of me.
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Wasn't trying to offend you but was just stating facts as we covered it long ago here. Now in what ways will Vibrant 4G be better?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909916
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913896
I'm with STHNS. After buying a Captivate for my gf and doing research on it I am flabberghasted at how many issues plague that phone. The rooting procedure is a nightmare, the GPS is a joke, Samsung's bloatware is incredible and almost a year later they still haven't updated it to Froyo.
I am VERY glad I didn't get a Vibrant. Stay away is my advice.
Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.
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Cool, guys thanks. I only heard about this phone on Monday when the rumors hit, so I had no idea people were already talking about it.
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My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)
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So, how is the mytouch 4g gonna stack up against the new 4G Samsung with a front facing camera that was announced today?? Will the Samsung be better and is it really "REAL" 4G so non-T-Mo people can shut up.
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I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.
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My guess is there won't be a new T-Mo phone that could seriously challenge the MT4G until March (sorry Nexus S users)
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Agreed. We've got the best processor, the most RAM, and because it's an HTC we've got tons of ROMs and developer support. There's been an ongoing project to port the Nexus S ROM over to SGS for months now and it's still unstable. We've got CM7 as a daily driver already.
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I am a former Vibrant owner. The MT4G is leaps and bounds beyond the Vibrant. In the 3 months that I've owned the Vibrant, the majority of my time was spent trying to apply various fixes to try to make the phone work as it should. With the MT4G, the only modification I've made was applying the Gingerbread launcher. As such, I have no reason to believe that the repackaged Vibrant (make no mistake, it's the same phone with a couple of extra bells and whistles thrown in) will be any better. I suggest avoiding Samsung phones altogether, at least in the near future. That company really needs to get its act together.
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I would agree with this. I had much respect for Samsung but after buying my gf a Captivate and doing more research I'm on it I'm very displeased with them.
LOL kgbkny I remember when I had HD2 and Vibrant first came out people came up to me and was like this is better than yours I was like idiot you don't even have lagfix installed and I can beat it down without scaling my CPU at 768mhz. He had no idea so I installed various packages and fixes and he agreed it ran better after and was thankful. But ya Samsung you should avoid it period go with superior mobile vendor like HTC how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC? Lets be real now HTC is the way to go.
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how many phone that is flagship of many carrier is not HTC?
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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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lol they have reason for that as AT&T's flagship is iPanzy 4 which is another thread of its own but ya AT&T is just crippling Android device in its lineup. I been telling ya all not to trust THE death star as VZ is the only carrier left from the OG Bell 6/7 split.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCp-1hgfxI
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Id say the mytouch doesn't rlly stack up to the OG vibrant, let alone one with 4g and a ffc...
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I laughed at this one and I'm a vibrant owner. I got my wife a mt4g for xmas and there is no comparison. Stock out of the box the mt4g is leaps and bounds better than the vibrant. As far as speed and response, the stock mt4g was at a minimum as fast as my rooted/modded/voodoo lagfixed vibrant.
I've installed just about every rom that's come out for the vibrant from eugene, master, and team whiskey as well as every leaked modem that's come out and the mt4g consistently gets better signal than my vibrant as well. I'll be sitting in my house and the vibrant goes back and forth between edge and 3g and I've never seen the mytouch on edge once. Then you have to factor in the gps problem of the samsungs and the fact that samsung has a terrible history of supporting their devices. They'll straight up leave you hanging. They came out with the galaxy s line, then in no time flat they come out with the nexus s, and now they've come out with the vibrant 4g. All that is great if they support their devices when they move on to new ones but they have a history of not doing that. In the meantime I can put gingerbread on my old ass HTC G1.
The one thing the Samsung has going for it is the screen. That screen is hot **** but it's not so great that it makes up for all the other areas that it's deficient in IMO.
Plus the mt4g has sensui. Not everyone likes sense. I do, but more importantly I can run the senseui but if I want something different I can root the phone and install a more vanilla android experience. With the vibrant there isn't any stable sense roms running on it. So you have more variety with the mt4g as well. Plus the extra RAM doesn't hurt either or the FFC. I like the physical buttons and the trackpad as well. YMMV.
see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb5K1CBTRHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0sRMdYFlyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZaFM6UgDnQ
Actually the original galaxy s the international version had the FFC, may be tmo is just playing this apple game of streaming the upgrades for its customers.
The MT4 will still be the better phone if samsung chose to use the same wimpy cpu already found in their vibrant.
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That's true.
MT4G
EVO4G
DROID INCREDIBLE
Basically everyone but AT&T has an HTC as their flagship phone.
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AT&T is getting the Desire HD very soon. Of all the current phones, it's the only one that I would give up the MT4G for.
Did you check the communication spec for DHD? It uses 900/2100mhz for 3G you won't get 3G in USA but you can use 2G for d/v. Far as MT4G vs DHD goes I was like you also but as they do share similar spec but if you look at benchmark you will see MT4G is superior than DHD but DHD does have 4.3" display lol which I miss so dearly, but also would have picked DHD if had 3G support.
hope u all enjoy this read.
im going to post my experiences and thoughts with both phones.
not hating on either one, just a clear cut opinion.
I personally first came to android after the Evo came out, i was lucky to get one July 27th. I had the G1 for a couple weeks on Tmo (a long time ago) and i was not impressed.
before that i was a blackberry guy for the longest.
I switched from Tmo to sprint because tmos service went to crap. i drive for a living and i do about 200 miles a day. Tmos service would drop during the drive in the same exact spots where i knew i would lose service. 7 different places to be exact with crappy reception in between.
i figured id try sprint. anyways i stuck with them with a awesome phone the Evo 4g.
The Dev area for the evo is un-real, roms galore, kernel galore, everything is flashable and seems to be very easy to do.
A plus for the evo for sure.
With the right rom/kernel combo along with the seido 3500 battery, it was a incredible phone. Doing anything i needed it to when i needed it. Never having to worry about battery life.
i had no issues with the evo, but i did have to return it due to it overheating and shutting off until cooled (kernel issue and something i did im sure), i got it replaced and was happy as a clam.
As for samsung, i critized them and hated on them every chance i got.
the support for them always seemed to be crap and doing things on them seemed to be not as easy.
well some things happened id rather not discuss and i had to get rid of the evo, i found a Epic on craigslist(may 1st) and it was listed as a "galaxy pro" The guy didnt know what it was, but the pics showed it was a epic. i verified the ESN was clean and picked it up for $65.00!!
Couldn't pass that up at all, besides all that i needed another android, for a couple weeks i was using a beat up blackberry curve 8530 and seemed to be having withdraws lol.
Anyways i fell in love with the sammy as soon as i started playing with it. The screen is just poppy and incredible. it blows the evo screen away easy.
im not fond of slide out keyboards, but i figured with the screen being 4 inchs, id have no issue with adjusting from the evo and its 4.3 inch.
Touchwiz isnt all that bad either, i thought it would be worse, but its not bad at all. Can become adjusted to TWiz or Sense very quickly.
it fits well in my hand, but im too interested in the power button on the side, seems out of place. Really im used to the button up top along with the charger port on the bottom instead of the top, but love the little "door" on the charger port.
Dev area for the Epic is smaller, and a little more "intermediate" then the simple flash and go of the evo.
i miss the evo dev section, but have become used to the epic area and getting the hang of things quickly.
To be honest.
both phones are great, id be happy with either or. With the evo its all in the dev section, with the epic its all in the screen.
i wont be slamming samsung anymore because im just as happy as i was with the evo. i may go back to HTC for the ease of things after the evo 3d or something else comes out.
but im very comfortable with the epic and its a great choice in the android world right along side the evo.
the screen really is amazing. i like the camera better too. sometimes i wish i had a snapdragon phone just for roms, but this whole nexus S thing could change everything. sounds like a fair review to me. just flashed the ACS rom and its pretty damn good. will deffinitly tide me over till GB
I picked up an evo on launch day, broke it and jumped ship to the epic when it launched. While the evo had a better dev community imo, I still enjoy my epic. The screen is really what takes the cake. I could care less about the keyboard so next time I'm in the market for a phone I'm gonna sit back, observe the dev communtiy for a while when the new flagships launch and see what happens. I do love my epic but when it comes down to it, its all about development which I feel the epic lacks compared to the evo. The devs here are amazing, I just feel that things are much slower around here than the evo section. Still though this is a great phone. I've been running the ACS rom for a few days and its flawless. Not to mention I was able to get a day and a halfs worth of battery on it
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Both suck. Att tilt ftw
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Both suck. Att tilt ftw
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i second that, ill even buy your little epics and evos for $25, each. ill even help you out and show you a gently used awesome tilt.
http://www.craytonelectronics.com/8925a.html
I really like Touchwiz, I avoid roms that don't support it.
I first got my epic over the Evo because I knew the battery life was going to be much better. I'm not sure if it's really any different or not, I haven't used an Evo many times other than at work (I work with phones). I think the epic is better because of the AMOLED screen. Plain and simple, everything just looks better.
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the screen really is amazing. i like the camera better too. sometimes i wish i had a snapdragon phone just for roms, but this whole nexus S thing could change everything. sounds like a fair review to me. just flashed the ACS rom and its pretty damn good. will deffinitly tide me over till GB
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You know i forgot to say anything about the camera itself.
we all know the evo and HTC make ****ty camera drivers , constant complaint even though its a 8mp on the evo.
samsung on the other hand knows what they are doing in this regard.
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I picked up an evo on launch day, broke it and jumped ship to the epic when it launched. While the evo had a better dev community imo, I still enjoy my epic. The screen is really what takes the cake. I could care less about the keyboard so next time I'm in the market for a phone I'm gonna sit back, observe the dev communtiy for a while when the new flagships launch and see what happens. I do love my epic but when it comes down to it, its all about development which I feel the epic lacks compared to the evo. The devs here are amazing, I just feel that things are much slower around here than the evo section. Still though this is a great phone. I've been running the ACS rom for a few days and its flawless. Not to mention I was able to get a day and a halfs worth of battery on it
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i completely agree, same thing i was basically saying.
im running syndicate fully loaded myself.
having crappy battery but im trying to address all that as of right now.
My wife has an evo and I have the epic so I do have the luxury of flashing both. Yes the evo development section s is bigger buy there are so many roms they all copy each other. I like the roms hear as they all offer something unique. I also love the Amoled screen and the camera. The epic is faster in both cpu and gpu. They are both awesome phones I just prefer the epic. It is if u like to flash stuff to have an evo though. I can flash all day lol
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This is what I like to see..a lot of people never give things a fair chance and go off baseless rumors....
For example:
1) Samsung does not support their phones:
This was kind samsungs fault as they promised an 2.0 update to the Behold and then never delivered..said it wasn't possible and only updated to 1.6...from then on everyone made the assumption that Samsung would NEVER update their phones...other manufacturers havent updated their phones either on plenty of occasions..sure its Samsungs fault for not delivering but you can't base everything on 1 occasion...Also a lot of people group "support" and "updating"...Samsung is know for its good support actually..
2) Touchwiz is the devil that lags up the phone and brings nothing
While all UIs add bloat..TouchWiz is not as bad as people make it out to be..most hate TouchWiz received was in the winmo days...and the old Touchwiz was junk..plus the new TouchWiz looks similar to the iphone in the app launcher thus mustering more hate...I wont say TouchWiz is the best UI..but its one of the cleanest UIs I've seen..
I find it Ironic how an HTC device has like 5 issues and people just go oh well..while if samsung has 1 issue people scream how Samsung sucks and they shouldnt have bought it...my only request is that people look at all manufacturers equally without bias and judge based on the overall product fairly..
So its not about who is better HTC or Samsung..its about who is it acceptable to buy from...and at this moment both HTC and Samsung are my options for buying...this gives me more choice...in the future I hope to add LG and maybe Motorola to my "acceptable" list if they meet my standards..and the more manufacturers that meet my standards the more "CHOICE" I have...I expect by the SGS 2 becoming mainstream the community will rival HTC devices in development..
What I really liked about the evo is that EVERYTHING Is flashable.
From radio updates,to pri, to anything you can think of.
You just download it and flash it, so simple.
Kernel support its also great.
thats what I miss most.
Not saying that the epic devs are bad, im loving avs.
But the evo area is def more popular.
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What I really liked about the evo is that EVERYTHING Is flashable.
From radio updates,to pri, to anything you can think of.
You just download it and flash it, so simple.
Kernel support its also great.
thats what I miss most.
Not saying that the epic devs are bad, im loving avs.
But the evo area is def more popular.
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can you reiterate? we can flash anything on the Epic as well...
But obviously they have a larger dev base due to:
1) Evo coming out first
2) People choosing HTC just because its HTC
3) Sprint spent their entire budget advertising the EVO while spent nothing to advertise the Epic until it won the pcworld #1 phone award..then they spent a little..
4) Nexus One giving a lot of grounds
5) Devs more used to how HTC does things
Well Odin has to be used for radios and stuff.
We cant simply flash a rom without checking what file system it is, things like that.
They are non existent on the evo.
Along with the whole rfs/ext system thing we don't need to worry about on the evo.
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What I really liked about the evo is that EVERYTHING Is flashable.
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Everything is flashable on the Epic, too - see Odin.
intheb0x said:
Well Odin has to be used for radios and stuff.
We cant simply flash a rom without checking what file system it is, things like that.
They are non existent on the evo.
Along with the whole rfs/ext system thing we don't need to worry about on the evo.
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If you use cwm on the evo its basically the same as our epics, edify=cwm3 amend=cwm2. The bonus for the evo is amon RA which can go both ways. Just try flashing gb with cwm2 and well your in trouble.
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i mean non Odin wise,
like on the go type stuff.
i dont know how many times ive downloaded different kernels or dif lock screens, radios or pri's on the go and could just go into recovery and flash.
no pc required.
thats what i meant.
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i mean non Odin wise,
like on the go type stuff.
i dont know how many times ive downloaded different kernels or dif lock screens, radios or pri's on the go and could just go into recovery and flash.
no pc required.
thats what i meant.
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Your joking right? I have only used odin once to flash the ec05 modem and I've flashed most of the eb13/ec05 roms, kernels, themes, ect. Actually I've flashed all eb13/ec05 kernels and have been on cm7 a1&a4. I avoid odin at all costs, but its always there just in case I goof. So far so good.
Ya. The epics screen is amazing. Im not buying no other device unless its amoled.
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The Epic is my first Android phone and I picked it over the Evo for two main reasons.
1) Physical keyboard
I thought I needed a physical keyboard and it turns out I do and I don't. For email/sms Swype works great. However for things like working in the terminal the virtual keyboard just doesn't work for me.
2) The screen.
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Overall I've been very happy w/ my Epic. Still need to test out Syndicate but for now rooted w/ the screen rotation lag fix is good enough.
I like both phone, both has crazy specs, I have the evo now and love it. What I love about the evo is that there is so many roms to choose from. My main concern is which phone is easier to develop for and do you think Samsung development community would be as big as HTC development community. Not to mention that I love the cm roms and there roms is still in experimental stage for Samsung. I really answering my own question for the evo3d but that screen on the galaxy s2 is calling me.
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I like both phone, both has crazy specs, I have the evo now and love it. What I love about the evo is that there is some many roms to choose from. My main concern is which phone is easier to develop for and do you thing Samsung development community would be as big as HTC development community. Not to mention that I love the cm roms and there roms is still in experimental stage for Samsung. I really answering my own question for the evo3d but that screen on the galaxy s2 is calling me.
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I sold my EVO and bought an Epic back in December... big mistake for someone that likes to dev and tweak his phone. The Epic hardware is awesome, but the dev support is very lacking. Yeah, I could overclock my Epic and score 2400+ on Quadrant and it took great HD Video compared to the EVO. The screen was also beautiful. I traded the Epic for an EVO because I missed being able to dev. If you're the type of person that always wants to be on the cutting edge with the newest version of Android, then stay with what the DEVs are using (probably EVO3D). If you're someone that runs the same ROM for months at a time (i.e. not a flashaholic) then the Samsung S II may be best for you. It depends on what you're looking for and what you're looking to do with your phone.
-Daryel
Yup Evo 3D, even tho it might have lock bootloader like the thunderbolt, it will have more support from developers, and good ones too, virus is coming alone and myns wants too, I believe mik is coming and of course others
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...custom-roms-look/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I wonder how long it will take them to crack the bootloader if it is indeed locked. I hope not too long. But its what ever. After running Virus' Kindom Port, ill be fine with stock un-rooted for a lil while
My only concern is developing for the EVO 3D as they have some new files that are going to be or may be difficult to work on. Only time will tell. I'm going to the EVO 3D because I love Sense and I can tell you right now the galaxy wont have that.
My favorite roms are myns for sense and cm7 for latest android roms. So I guess ill stay with HTC
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I checked out both phones at Google IO. The galaxy S2 was so thin and the screen was amazing. Both phones were super snappy.
The only turnoffs for me on the galaxy s2 was the plasticky cover and the weight. Anyone who's owned a Samsung phone knows what i'm talking about with the plasticky feeling phones. But the weight of the S2 blew me away. I can't remember a lighter smartphone. It felt like a toy. It was basically "too light." I'm sure for many, that phrase doesn't even make sense, but for me, I like phones that feel solid and have some substance to them. For some, when they throw this phone in their pocket, they won't even know its there.
I have to hand it to Samsung though. The S2 is an impressive engineering accomplishment. Its the highest performance phone I've seen announced, and its so damn thin and light.
I'm personally a fan of sense, or at least having the option of sense, and I doubt that would ever fully translate to a Samsung product no matter what developers are working on it.
I really love the slab form of the GSII, if they release a HTC slab phone (like the Sensation) on Sprint, that would really be the phone I'd want. Evo 2?
HTC has better radios and gps, Samsung sucks!
the s2 does seem intriguing...also i hate that instead of hdmi out, the use usb and then give you a converter cable w/ an additional power source on it. plus, for some unknown reason, it seems we could be waiting a while before it actually hits the market in the states for some reason eventhough it is already in europe (gsm version). also, i hopped on to the evo 3d thread a while ago and the dev's were introducing themselves...there were LOADS of great dev's coming on board. With the specs and dev's on board, the 3d will have some spectacular features!
I am intrigued by the GS2 and the new version of Touchwiz... I HATE HATE HATE touchwiz, but the new version looks ok so far.
One thing that will keep me from considering the GS2 is if it has a physical keyboard. I don't know why Sprint has to be the one that gets that...
I'm going with the EVO 3D. The specs look awesome.
Neither, its all about the Nexus 3
^that not going to be out for a while
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Neither, its all about the Nexus 3
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Amen to that!! All about the Nexus3 in Dec. A Tegra3 Quadcore?? Rediculous!! Worth the wait IMO!!
The Evo can defiantly hold up til then.
well my wife is due for an upgrade on august which i would the get the evo3d and give my evo to my wife. then my 18 month upgrade for my line would be in jan which then ill get the nexus 3 everybody is happy
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Amen to that!! All about the Nexus3 in Dec. A Tegra3 Quadcore?? Rediculous!! Worth the wait IMO!!
The Evo can defiantly hold up til then.
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Lol if you believe that's coming to sprint in December I got some land for sale....its in the middle of the ocean too. Lmao!!!!!
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Evo 3d all the way!!
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Lol if you believe that's coming to sprint in December I got some land for sale....its in the middle of the ocean too. Lmao!!!!!
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I highly doubt the Nexus3 will launch on Sprint. I could care less which carrier it lands on tbh. It's still worth waiting for!! Jaja
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I highly doubt the Nexus3 will launch on Sprint. I could care less which carrier it lands on tbh. It's still worth waiting for!! Jaja
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I think it will launch on sprint, google and sprint are getting really tight now. First with google voice and now with the nfc payment system.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/google-and-sprint-team-up-to-take-your-digital-dollars-with-new/
And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!
Beautiful
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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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That's a good point. A friend of mine just got the 3D. He came from a Windows mobile phone. He has been going on and on about it but the stuff that he likes are things that I have had on my rooted EVO for a while. I think his excitement is Android based and not based on that particular phone. I have compared mine and just can find enough reason to switch before I see what the development looks like. My rooted EVO is only a small step behind the stock 3D, IMO.
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And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!
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You got it! +1 on this one!
No real replacement for Evo until next year. It's hard to perfect perfection.
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upgrading to a newer android phone from the evo is just like upgrading from an iphone 3g to a 3gs, only slight differences.
Bad news... http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oodbye-to-the-htc-evo-4g-and-samsung-epic-4g/
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doesn't mean anything. just that sprint doesn't want it on its shelves anymore in order to sell their new devices.
I'm assuming HTC wants people to upgrade to either the 3D or the Kingdom when it releases as the Hero 4G under Sprint.
Rumor has it that the Kingdom will be a tad cheaper than the 3D. It's basically an Evo with a bigger screen and a worse camera but better hardware specs. It seems like it will be Sprint's new flagship model for some time and will probably be used to tempt all the people that are still happy with their Evo 4Gs out of hiding.
If the Evo 4+ makes it to sprint, that will be the one I am interested in...but only if I can have what I have now. I could only consider it a downgrade to go to a phone that can not do what my current phone does...really not interested if its faster...if it can't do all I have now damn the Evo is nice. I really can't think of another phone that after rooting can do. ALL the things I'm allowed to do due to the amazing development teams
I love my evo 4g
will only upgrade to a phone that's actually superior like 2.0ghz quadcore processer with 16 gig internal, 8 ram with like 1080 resolution screen 8 megapixel camera. 3 megapixel front camera and better gaming than nvidas kal-el chip
But as there aren't going to be any like that for a while I'll stick with what I've got
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I have an evo 4g and its a beast! Ill wait for when LTE phones come out
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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I agree. This whole HTC locking boot loaders is so people will go out and buy their next best device. Crap I tell ya.... Worst part is, when you do buy Another device, they'll just lock it later down the road... IDK.. that sounds kinda crazy eh? LOL
Anyways the EVO is an awesome device and glad I got it.
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HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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I don't go for the conspiracy theory that THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO LIKE YOUR PHONE. This is nonsense. The more you like it the more HTC phones you will buy, and the more you will recommend it to friends. The locking seems to be due to carrier pressure, because the carrier pays for the tech support calls when people screw them up when rooting, overclocking, etc. You call HTC with a screwed up phone and they will tell you to call Sprint ;-)
Just yesterday, the Evo3D root came out, and the instructions led many hundreds of people to have to call tech support to get the phone connected to the network again! This is no joke, I was one of those who called. One of the rooters asked the Sprint rep, and he said he had personally gotten close to 70 calls just yesterday with the same "Error 16" issue due to the new root procedure!
Beyond, that, I agree, EVO 4G rules. I got a 3D, and I do not like it as much as the OG.
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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I have never owned a g2x. I merely made this post because I feel it is the best well rounded phone for all my needs. HDMI mirroring really makes this shine. The wiimote app only gets used occasionally but still very sweet and it works just like I have a damn old school nes haha. It just fits me and HTC locking bootloaders lol. They will eventually get unlocked. Not a big deal. Then we will all forget about the 3 weeks spent with a horribly locked 3d/sensation lmao.
I must say this has been my favorite device to play around with that I have in my little arsenal of devices. I got this baby for free from a co-worker when she dropped it in a bowl of water. She was going to donate it and I immediately told her that I would take it. I sure am glad I did. To think about 2 years ago it came out with the specs it has was a breakthrough for Android devices and it still is a really strong almost unbreakable beast. I still use it on a daily basis to watch youtube videos via HDMI. Also the EVO 4g community is great with good peoples. I swear sometimes I think a noob is going be hanged when they ask a question but instead someone respectfully answers them. Great devs, great people, which will make me hold on to this device until this place becomes a ghost town which I don't think will happen anytime soon.
Please share any awesome experiences you guys have had with this device
This is the first and only smart phone I have owned. It has taken me to high levels of enjoyment and understanding. I have dived deep into Android and haven't been held back by my device.
I will say I am not happy with htc's recent trickery with their bootloaders but if they did a nexus device I would be right on it.
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I still use my "decommissioned" EVO 4g daily to surf and watch netflix. It has become my "PDA." It is, however, tethered to my rooted 3devo which is running ICS and Sense 4.0 Marriage made in heaven.
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this was my first android phone. i was a fan of android before i got it, and definitely knew that my next phone would be an android, so when it came out its specs made me drool. i've had a ton of smartphones since they started coming out. i had dell axims before smartphones, and this phone really is awesome. i mean, i think that pretty much any high end android phone is pretty awesome considering where we were only a few years ago before android was fully mainstream, back when your option was an iphone that couldn't copy and paste text, or a windows mobile phone that would crash when pasting. the one thing that really stands out with the evo for me is the build quality. its not *that* bad. indestructible? oh no... this phone breaks in weird places without even being dropped, like the usb port, power button, etc. but since my last htc product with the touch pro, i didn't trust htc with building anything decent. that phone broke in so many ways it was unimaginable. i was always thinking, what's going to fall off next? so, i've owned the evo for almost 2 years now, and well, i still own it. that says something.
I fell in love with it the second I had it in my hands. Android has been an absolute blast and I love that its continuously being updated and stuff. I have now moved on to the new HTC EVO 4G LTE and use my OG EVO as a tethering device for my computer
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I fell in love with it the second I had it in my hands. Android has been an absolute blast and I love that its continuously being updated and stuff. I have now moved on to the new HTC EVO 4G LTE and use my OG EVO as a tethering device for my computer
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I'm not sure if I want to get my hands on the EVO LTE yet. I have been looking at the Galaxy note seems like a pretty neat device to play around with but I do want another slider. I am very partial to my slider devices
Be-careful about the tethering.... don't hit 100gigs a month.
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I'm not sure if I want to get my hands on the EVO LTE yet. I have been looking at the Galaxy note seems like a pretty neat device to play around with but I do want another slider. I am very partial to my slider devices
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I'm considering the Note as well. Just wondering if I will get bored with it. Been hard to get bored with my evo 4g since I can always flash a new and different rom. But the Note is tempting
This is the only phone I've owned that has kept my attention for the life of the contract.
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It is really amazing, that 2 years later this phone still holds it's own. I still think it's a great looking phone, and with the abundance of ROMs available I have a hard time upgrading.
I agree with the post above, it's hard to consider upgrading when there is such a great dev community here. Thanks all!
I think that by having hdmi out for netflix makes the phone badass
My favorite phone too.
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It will be sad to decommission this one... but excited about the SG3. Never gonna let it go though!!