How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
centran said:
How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
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Well, I can have it both ways I guess. I've had the Hero since January and I love it. My dad will be getting the EVO next weekend. So I've been explaining to him the benefits of root and what not, and I think I have him convinced to root it. I have to admit that I am jealous, although it will be nice to have some hands on experience when I do root it for him.
I have my Hero rooted with Fresh 2.1.2 and with the Envy theme on it. I might start to learn to theme on my own since there are tutorials out there. It looks easy, but time consuming.
Ultimately, I'm satisfied and I thank the themers and the rom devs out there who made my phone a nice piece of work.
Listen.. Not everyone will be able to upgrade and not everyone here has 500 dollars to shell out for a phone in an economy like this. Progress will slow as far as hero goes but will not stop. come June 4th ill still be here and so will everyone else... Theres a strong reality in the real world and most people who say "ill get the phone" will not get it simply because life doesn't work that way. Theres stipulations and events that happen daily that impede peoples lives and plans.
Stop worrying about development for the hero.
centran said:
How is everyone feeling about there being just over 1 week of big development on the Hero? ... ... ... Evo is coming out soon so I expect this board to die down a lot.
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I don't think it's gonna die off that much. I don't recall hearing flipz, damage or toast saying they were jumping ship.
Powers16 said:
Listen.. Not everyone will be able to upgrade and not everyone here has 500 dollars to shell out for a phone in an economy like this. Progress will slow as far as hero goes but will not stop. come June 4th ill still be here and so will everyone else... Theres a strong reality in the real world and most people who say "ill get the phone" will not get it simply because life doesn't work that way. Theres stipulations and events that happen daily that impede peoples lives and plans.
Stop worrying about development for the hero.
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Well said my man!
Most of us got our phones in Sept/Oct thus not up for upgrade, I doubt many of us will be jumping ship to a $500 phone.
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I am going to pay full price for the evo.
But i am going to miss my damage control roms.
You guys made the long wait for 2.1 much more bearable.
I will still be on the forums for the hero. I helped people at work root and flash there devices.
Nanan00 said:
Most of us got our phones in Sept/Oct thus not up for upgrade, I doubt many of us will be jumping ship to a $500 phone.
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I know a ton of people are on ppcgeeks, it's like a ghost town in the hero section. But in reality xda has always been the main place for development anyways. Im a bit shocked at godzson & zen leaving so soon though.
markus_del_marko said:
I don't think it's gonna die off that much. I don't recall hearing flipz, damage or toast saying they were jumping ship.
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Actually, Toast (arguably our best true code developer) has said he is getting the EVO. That in itself is a big big loss.
i wont be leaving, and i havent developed any roms lmfao ahahahahahahahahaah i will continue to see you guys around here, but i am getting some help from a mentor of mine who is teaching me how to compile my own kernels and i will soon make my own few roms for my hero, mwuahahahahaha(evil laugh)
I *was* going to get the Evo and actually considered purchasing it outright or adding a second line to my account to get it, but not sure if I can handle an additional $80/mo bill on top of my current load which is horrendous already.
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I *was* going to get the Evo and actually considered purchasing it outright or adding a second line to my account to get it, but not sure if I can handle an additional $80/mo bill on top of my current load which is horrendous already.
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Additional &80???
How's that? Do you have just one line right now?
I am pretty sure I am holding off on the EVO. Not that the specs don't give me a hard on, but ----- I really want a tegra or dual core snap dragon even more than I want this.
And I don't have 4g any my area, and it took years to even get 3G here...I can only imagine the roll out will be just the same. I really can't belive there are still parts of the U.S. that are dead-zones...let alone not having 3G.
I was absolutely pumped on the EVO and am eligible for an upgrade. However, after some recent disappointments with Sprint's service/customer service, I will be sticking with my Hero. I don't plan on ditching Sprint (yet) but I also have no desire to extend my contract with them, which is the whole reason they come out with the newest and fastest so quickly.
So, I've decided I'm not taking the bait. In a few months, I will be a contract free Hero owner and plan to enjoy the peace of mind of knowing I can tell Sprint to go **** themselves whenever I please.
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Yep, looks like some EVO's were given to anyone attending Googles I/O event and its already been rooted. Good news for 99% of people in this forum, I know you are all switching Just thought I would share!
<3 all the dev's out there!
"We're still a good dozen days away from its public release, but the Evo 4G has already been given a rooting makeover. Google dished out Evo handsets to all the lucky (so lucky!) attendees of its blowout I/O 2010 event, and a trio of those visitors rolled up their sleeves and decided to get down and intimate with the phone over the weekend. The product of their labor is at this stage just a few screenshots and a blurry video after the break, but fear not, we're sure details of the hack will be forthcoming promptly."
-- engadgetmobile
SRRY I CANT LINK DIRECT
hate to be the troll who does this to you, but wrong section.
Link: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
^thanks sk63
and I realize this is the hero section. I own a hero, but I figured a lot of hero owners would be interested. feel free to move/delete it if needed mods
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Link: http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
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i'm looking into it to find if it's exploit is useful for our cdma hero.
Definitely wrong section, but all I can say is HELL YES!!!! Cant wait till I get my EVO come the 4th.
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Yep, looks like some EVO's were given to anyone attending Googles I/O event and its already been rooted. Good news for 99% of people in this forum, I know you are all switching Just thought I would share!
<3 all the dev's out there!
"We're still a good dozen days away from its public release, but the Evo 4G has already been given a rooting makeover. Google dished out Evo handsets to all the lucky (so lucky!) attendees of its blowout I/O 2010 event, and a trio of those visitors rolled up their sleeves and decided to get down and intimate with the phone over the weekend. The product of their labor is at this stage just a few screenshots and a blurry video after the break, but fear not, we're sure details of the hack will be forthcoming promptly."
-- engadgetmobile
SRRY I CANT LINK DIRECT
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im not sure that EVERYONE will be going to the EVO ... yes its a nice phone and love the size of the screen , but looks like Sprint is going to use AT&T tacktics.. i am told you will need to pay for 4g service ( per month ) even if you dont want it! another words , you will need to purchase a plan that will allow the EVO to work and that service will cost more money per month ...
as for me i would rather have the NExus One but we shall see what happens ..
I really wish that Sprint didn't release such amazing phones within a year range that are near the same, besides hardware specs...
And on topic now, that's amazing! Hopefully like someone said, that can be used towards our rooting!
Pisses me off that this is coming so soon, I have until early october until I qualify for a $75 credit since that was when our heros were released. Hopefully there will be some equally impressive or better phones coming to sprint by the end of the year?
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i'm looking into it to find if it's exploit is useful for our cdma hero.
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This was my first thought too... The EVO is running 2.1 correct? it has been rooted, which should open the door for the rooting of the Official version running on the Hero.
I hope the Dev's stick around and support the Hero for a while yet as the phone is awesome, especially with the Newest Rom's.
Happy Trails!
Sheesh WRONG SECTION!...
Kidding
Thanks for posting this, I seem to forget that there are other sections.
This is good news but this should be moved the the general section tbh.
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im not sure that EVERYONE will be going to the EVO ... yes its a nice phone and love the size of the screen , but looks like Sprint is going to use AT&T tacktics.. i am told you will need to pay for 4g service ( per month ) even if you dont want it! another words , you will need to purchase a plan that will allow the EVO to work and that service will cost more money per month ...
as for me i would rather have the NExus One but we shall see what happens ..
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Its $10 additional to whatever ur paying now... not really a big change in anything... just like when people bought their hero's, it required a certain plan.. its the same thing.. u gotta pay for the 4G service..
(and would people stop wasting your time to post "wrong section".. let a mod see it or figure it out... no need in 20 people sayin the same ****)
Just because the Evo was able to be rooted doesn't mean that it should help with the Hero 2.1 Case in point.....even after the hero was initially rooted, how long did it take for the eris to follow suit even though it was running the same 1.5?
I'm not sure if I really want the EVO or if it's just wanting to be on the cutting edge... it's kinda useless to me where I live because there are 0 plans to bring 4g here anytime soon, but they're bringing it to town 60 miles away. Bad timing in my honest opinion for this phone, because only select markets get to benefit from it's main feature, 4g.
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I'm not sure if I really want the EVO or if it's just wanting to be on the cutting edge... it's kinda useless to me where I live because there are 0 plans to bring 4g here anytime soon, but they're bringing it to town 60 miles away. Bad timing in my honest opinion for this phone, because only select markets get to benefit from it's main feature, 4g.
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Its the same thing as when the G1 came to T-mobile. It was their first 3g phone, and they had almost no 3g coverage at the time. Sprint has been rolling out 4g for a while. It makes sense in the areas that have it or are slated to have it soon. Plus, the phone itself is amazing on 3g, so really, I don't see why it matters. The 10 dollars sucks if all you get is 3g, but whatever, still cheaper than anyone else, and you do no longer have a 5 GB limit.
Hopefully Sprint in its infinite wisdom doesn't delay the release to update these in a big effin hurry before they're in our hot little hands. Not that there's precedent for that, but ...
I know there were other devs with this ROM waiting to show they had root as well just for that reason. Oh well. crosses fingers!!!
EVO looks bad ass, but it breaks my heart to see that they don't even have any set plans of 4G where I live. Hopefully sprint puts out another snapdragon that can hold me over till 4g spreads a little more, I don't wanna pay 10 extra bucks a month for service I can't utilize.
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This is good news but this should be moved the the general section tbh.
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I thought the EVO wasn't rootable?
J/K markus, but this just goes to show you that when these devs want something, they do it, fast.
Well my wife and i got our HUGE tax return today and im trying to talk her into letting my sell my hero and buy the EVO. Problem is as of june 1st my company is closing down so ill be outta work. Decisions, decisions.
I am stuck between the EVO and the Shift.
My wife has the EPIC, which has a really nice GPU, but I refuse to personally own a Samsung phone..
How is the GPU in the EVO Shift?
Is the smaller screen really a draw back?
I came from an Evo to the Shift. Don't want to go back.
Stuke00 said:
I am stuck between the EVO and the Shift.
My wife has the EPIC, which has a really nice GPU, but I refuse to personally own a Samsung phone..
How is the GPU in the EVO Shift?
Is the smaller screen really a draw back?
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It is really a matter of opinion. I had an Epic and I will tell you that there is no other smartphone line on the market that can match the graphics performance of the Hummingbird processor. They won't even come close.
That said, the GPU on the shift is not bad, its just not as good as the one in the SGS line. Personally, I don't play a lot of games on my phone and if I do they are not GPU intensive ones. My wife (she owns the shift and I now have an Evo) plays the sims on her phone and I've never seen it even stutter. I've watched full 1080p avi videos on both phones and never had an issue.
As to the screen, no one can say for you if its an issue. For me, it is. 3.6 is just too small but to my wife its more than enough. My suggestion would be to the sprint store and play with each. If you want the big screen the Evo is great and it has a great development community. If you want the keyboard, even though there doesn't seem to be a lot going on around here there are a lot of great devs would have already switched and are just waiting for permanent root to start releasing some very cool stuff.
For me, I wouldn't get or use my evo without the sprint extended battery for it. That fixes a major evo issue, battery life. It depends on what's most important features on a smartphone. I won't go through all the questions but figure out what you're wanting to do most often and go with the phone which that is it's strongpoints.
None of them do everything well.
I'm personally waiting for root on the Shift before I decide to buy it. Of course by then Sprint may announce something better. We'll see. My Hero is fine for now.
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I'm personally waiting for root on the Shift before I decide to buy it. Of course by then Sprint may announce something better. We'll see. My Hero is fine for now.
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Might I ask why you're waiting for permanent root? You are of course entitled to your own opinion and can make your own decision, I just don't understand your reasoning.
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Might I ask why you're waiting for permanent root? You are of course entitled to your own opinion and can make your own decision, I just don't understand your reasoning.
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I agree, that's intriguing. Permanent root will happen, the Shift out of the box will blow your Hero away if you're worried about the bloatware.
I have the phone and I'm waiting for Perma root. In fact, if it's not achieved before my 30 days mark, I might take it back and buy it again once its done.
Use and abuse the 30 days I say. This also might free me up for whatever is being revealed on the 7th, which is one day after my 30 day mark.
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I have the phone and I'm waiting for Perma root. In fact, if it's not achieved before my 30 days mark, I might take it back and buy it again once its done.
Use and abuse the 30 days I say. This also might free me up for whatever is being revealed on the 7th, which is on day after my 30 day mark.
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I read something somewhere about what they are revealing but I forgot what it was and where I saw it, lol.
anthonyf27 said:
I'm personally waiting for root on the Shift before I decide to buy it. Of course by then Sprint may announce something better. We'll see. My Hero is fine for now.
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Like you, I'm currently using an HTC Hero (fully rooted, ROM'd, & themed). I'm due for my upgrade next month, but am having difficulty deciding between the Epic & Evo Shift. They both seem to have their strong points, but I'm just torn. I'm thinking I'll "test drive" the Epic (sAMOLED screen really looks nice), and if I don't like it I'll use the 30-day return policy & give the Evo Shift a try.
The biggest complaint I've been reading about the Epic is lack of support. I've figured out that this basically means people are upset that it doesn't have an official Samsung FroYo release yet. Understandable. HTC seems to have gotten better with their updates (my wife has an OG Evo), but I remember a time when we Hero users were very, very upset with HTC/Sprint because we didn't have Eclair for the longest time. Remember that?
Bottom line (for me) is that no phone manufacturer is perfect!
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I read something somewhere about what they are revealing but I forgot what it was and where I saw it, lol.
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I've read some speculation about an iPhone 4G, but I don't know if I believe it. I've always felt the iPhone and iOS were overrated - I wouldn't buy one even if Sprint did offer it. Android all the way for me!
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I've read some speculation about an iPhone 4G, but I don't know if I believe it. I've always felt the iPhone and iOS were overrated - I wouldn't buy one even if Sprint did offer it. Android all the way for me!
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I said something about that somewhere, but that's just total speculation on my part, based on VZW getting it. Unless you saw it elsewhere.
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Like you, I'm currently using an HTC Hero (fully rooted, ROM'd, & themed). I'm due for my upgrade next month, but am having difficulty deciding between the Epic & Evo Shift. They both seem to have their strong points, but I'm just torn. I'm thinking I'll "test drive" the Epic (sAMOLED screen really looks nice), and if I don't like it I'll use the 30-day return policy & give the Evo Shift a try.
The biggest complaint I've been reading about the Epic is lack of support. I've figured out that this basically means people are upset that it doesn't have an official Samsung FroYo release yet. Understandable. HTC seems to have gotten better with their updates (my wife has an OG Evo), but I remember a time when we Hero users were very, very upset with HTC/Sprint because we didn't have Eclair for the longest time. Remember that?
Bottom line (for me) is that no phone manufacturer is perfect!
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i had a hero too and i was one of those very upset people who waited forever for the 2.1 update....once it got leaked and i tried it i was so disappointed i finally rooted and never looked back...but i feel like sprint and htc took a lot of crap for that and look what happened with the evo....first carrier phone to get 2.2....so i think they may have learned their lesson so im hopeful updates will be quick for the shift
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I said something about that somewhere, but that's just total speculation on my part, based on VZW getting it. Unless you saw it elsewhere.
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I may have read where you posted it, but I've also seen it a couple other places including androidcentral.com's forums.
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i had a hero too and i was one of those very upset people who waited forever for the 2.1 update....once it got leaked and i tried it i was so disappointed i finally rooted and never looked back...but i feel like sprint and htc took a lot of crap for that and look what happened with the evo....first carrier phone to get 2.2....so i think they may have learned their lesson so im hopeful updates will be quick for the shift
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I completely agree! The Eclair update for the Hero was a definite disappointment. I was very apprehensive about rooting (fear of bricking my phone). Once I did it & realized how easy it actually was I kicked my self for not doing it sooner - no more dialer lag!
I hope you're right about HTC and their updates going forward. Maybe the Hero fiasco taught them a valuable lesson - the Evo 2.2 update and subsequent patch (Swype & other software) seems to show they've learned something. If the delay goes on much longer for the Epic users, Samsung may find a lot of people either jumping ship early or just refusing to buy their products in the future.
I know I'll most likely root whatever device I end up with, but I think Samsung's delay with FroYo is my biggest hangup because I don't want to go through it again!
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I completely agree! The Eclair update for the Hero was a definite disappointment. I was very apprehensive about rooting (fear of bricking my phone). Once I did it & realized how easy it actually was I kicked my self for not doing it sooner - no more dialer lag!
I hope you're right about HTC and their updates going forward. Maybe the Hero fiasco taught them a valuable lesson - the Evo 2.2 update and subsequent patch (Swype & other software) seems to show they've learned something. If the delay goes on much longer for the Epic users, Samsung may find a lot of people either jumping ship early or just refusing to buy their products in the future.
I know I'll most likely root whatever device I end up with, but I think Samsung's delay with FroYo is my biggest hangup because I don't want to go through it again!
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Honestly, if you are considering the Epic, don't. Its not worth the money. I bought it at launch and it was the biggest technological mistake I've ever made. I should have gone with my gut and gotten an Evo from the start. If the Epic gets froyo it will be the last update it gets, it will never see gingerbread or anything beyond. They've left the GPS barely functioning for this long and I doubt if they'll ever really care enough to fix it. The upside is you never really have to worry about bricking it because its already a brick.
I have a MacBook and love it. I thought I would like an iPhone but I read stories about the cons of the phone. I feel as if apple heavily censors some apps and deny some really useful apps because maybe they think someone could do something remotely black or grey hattish with it.
A Swiss army knife or leatherman multi tool can be very useful and handy sometimes. You could also use it to cut someone's brake lines or slit their throat. They decide that we aren't responsible enough to have something like that at our disposal. Once again, I digress.
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I have a MacBook and love it. I thought I would like an iPhone but I read stories about the cons of the phone. I feel as if apple heavily censors some apps and deny some really useful apps because maybe they think someone could do something remotely black or grey hattish with it.
A Swiss army knife or leatherman multi tool can be very useful and handy sometimes. You could also use it to cut someone's brake lines or slit their throat. They decide that we aren't responsible enough to have something like that at our disposal. Once again, I digress.
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Digression or not, +1!
kenvan19 said:
Honestly, if you are considering the Epic, don't. Its not worth the money. I bought it at launch and it was the biggest technological mistake I've ever made. I should have gone with my gut and gotten an Evo from the start. If the Epic gets froyo it will be the last update it gets, it will never see gingerbread or anything beyond. They've left the GPS barely functioning for this long and I doubt if they'll ever really care enough to fix it. The upside is you never really have to worry about bricking it because its already a brick.
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I appreciate the input... any input I get to help me decide. I still have a couple weeks to hash it out, so I'm researching & taking all opinions into account. Speaking of opinions... my ex-wife had a Moment which she cursed constantly... what did she "upgrade" to? You probably guessed it... the Epic.
I also plan to spend some more "hands on" time at the Sprint store with both phones.
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I appreciate the input... any input I get to help me decide. I still have a couple weeks to hash it out, so I'm researching & taking all opinions into account. Speaking of opinions... my ex-wife had a Moment which she cursed constantly... what did she "upgrade" to? You probably guessed it... the Epic.
I also plan to spend some more "hands on" time at the Sprint store with both phones.
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I do apologize for my harsh opinion. I felt very burned by Sprint and Samsung based on the fact that the sales rep sold me on the epic based on a claim that there would be 4g in my area within 2 months and that the Epic would have 2.2 in less than a month. However, when I came back to have them check out my wife's instinct the same guy told me that the Epic wouldn't be getting FroYo and as you are aware there is no official Froyo for it nor is there 4G in my area. I bought my wife a Shift because I knew she couldn't handle dealing with the Instinct any longer but I bought it off contract so that when hers is up we can leave Sprint and just pay my ETF. If I could get out of Sprint with just paying one ETF I would do it now.
Walked into a Radio Shack today just as a Sprint Rep was dropping off a data sheet for the Echo.
After chatting a while with her the subject of the EVO came up because she has one too. She let slip that there are plans for a, quote "EVO predecessor" this summer. I looked at her kind of dumbfounded and said "predecessor", do you mean the EVO 2? She said yeah I meant to say the successor. She said someone from upper management told her about it at the Phoenix Open (well Waste Management Open as it is called nowadays). I prodded for more info but she said she had already told me too much.
Take it with a grain of salt though - after all this is coming from a rep.
Tapatalk'd from my EVO
That's kind of a no brainer, there is no way that sprint is not going to release another flagship device this summer. We just gotta sit tight to find out what it is.
Yeah with the evo being such a big hit.. there will no doubt be a successor .. the device alone probably saved sprint altogether ... problem is when its gonna come...I would imagine later in the year seeing as sprint will no doubt push the echo for a few ...
pretty disappointed in sprints "ace up its sleeve" but I'm sure the device will sell and at least turn some heads
the evo did save sprint. better make a new one or i will cry
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the evo did save sprint. better make a new one or i will cry
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I hate this about android. I spend about $500 on the "top of the line" phone and 5 months later, it'll be obsolete. all of the devs will jump to the new evo and leave evo1 under the table. just like what happened to the Sprint hero.
That's just ridiculous. Just saw the other day that they have cm7 running on Eris! When I put my hero out of service for the evo in November I was running cm6 which was pretty much the best rom out at the time. Apple upgrades their hardware annually and there is no reason sprint or HTC shouldn't do the same. When evo 2 comes out I will be the 1st in line and after a quick sale on Craigslist for this one shouldn't be out of pocket all that much. I just don't see how you can get upset about new tech. I freakin live for it!
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I think she's messing with you... Sprint's gonna be plugging the Echo hardcore until they realize no one wants it, then MAYBE they'll do an Evo 2.
+1 on Evo saving Sprint though, although at the rate they're going now the Echo could be the death of it... I'll probably stay because they're the last major phone company with a true unlimited data plan. (minus the roaming cap)
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I think she's messing with you... Sprint's gonna be plugging the Echo hardcore until they realize no one wants it, then MAYBE they'll do an Evo 2.
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No way. The Echo is a niche device, not a flagship device. Sprint knows they need a new flagship and they will have one. The Echo is just one phone, they will be releasing others.
Probably more Galaxy S-based phones... All still running Froyo 2.1 as well =/
kenfly said:
I hate this about android. I spend about $500 on the "top of the line" phone and 5 months later, it'll be obsolete. all of the devs will jump to the new evo and leave evo1 under the table. just like what happened to the Sprint hero.
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You do realize that the G1, MyTouch 3g, hero, aria, etc still have an active dev community? Im sure development for the EVO will go on for years. As for the hero,I just looked at the dev page and an ASOP ROM was updated two days ago.
kenfly said:
I hate this about android. I spend about $500 on the "top of the line" phone and 5 months later, it'll be obsolete. all of the devs will jump to the new evo and leave evo1 under the table. just like what happened to the Sprint hero.
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deal with it...that's technology for you...
Why are people complaining about the advance of technology? WTH? You don't want new cool stuff? Then shut up about it and get an iPhone. Sit at the platform and watch the train go by. Will that really make you feel better?
Everything gets outdated over time, just with android being new in the sense of mobile platform it is moving faster than any other currently. That happens with new technology.
kenfly said:
I hate this about android. I spend about $500 on the "top of the line" phone and 5 months later, it'll be obsolete. all of the devs will jump to the new evo and leave evo1 under the table. just like what happened to the Sprint hero.
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Man as soon as I read your reply. I thought.... Oh boy.... LoL
Thanks
kenfly said:
I hate this about android. I spend about $500 on the "top of the line" phone and 5 months later, it'll be obsolete. all of the devs will jump to the new evo and leave evo1 under the table. just like what happened to the Sprint hero.
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I believe there's a form we can fill out if we want sprint to halt development of new phones...
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Fret not at the advancement of the technology...
The evo is a phone that I'm sure will have support for a while from sprint
The hero had its run and fair share...it made it to 2.1 ota..
Galaxy s owners are the ppl who should be complaining
What a fun time I have had with my Hero. This was my first Android phone I had and over the last year and a half I have learned more about Android and Linux than I wanted or thought I would ever know. I even dumped Windows for Linux a year ago.
For those that have been around for a while, there were some exciting times we had.
-Getting 2.1 on our phones before it was released.
There were so many of us up all night waiting for damage to release it.
Finding out we had a new PRI and frantically searching for a fix
-Getting CyanogenMod on our phones
Thanks to darch for this
Before running CM6 and then CM7 I did not like AOSP roms
-Getting 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1
Which I am still running
Some people are still envious of my Hero with this ROM on it and they have
newer phones.
-Fixxer
Need I say more
Most of the early devs moved on to the Evo 4G. We had some that have stuck around and a few more than came on board. With out you, our "outdated from the start" Hero's wouldn't be where they are now.
I'm keeping my Hero, since I can't see only getting $30 for the phone worth it. I'll still be around the forums every once in a while, but even with the recent reviews of the Evo 3D, I will be picking one up on June 24th.
Thanks to all those that have created ROM's, Kernels, theme's and apps and helped me along the way.
Anyways, since I have only seen 1 or 2 threads on people upgrading their phones, I wanted to put one out there for everyone that is upgrading, not just to the Evo 3D, but even those that might be getting an Evo 4G or any other phone.
I'm upgrading! Good times and memories in the Hero Forums. A lot of dbags in the 3D forums, uggghhhh!
I might get Evo 3d, sense 3.0!
im going to end up getting nexus s or something without sense. since , sense is open source now almost all newer phones will probably have a sense rom or two on it. so of i feel the need to i can just put it on myself.
I'm sticking around for a while, but I too would like to take the opportunity to thank all of those in the Hero C forums who have not only advanced my knowledge of this particular phone but the Android operating system in general. A really great group of people here, willing to share what they've learned, so thanks all.
Launch day, 3vo, woot. Thanks for memory lane I didnt really join the party til fall, came from winmo, never gonna go back. Thanks for helping me learn.
And for real, I need an ETA on dual boot windows xp, lmfao.
il Duce said:
Launch day, 3vo, woot. Thanks for memory lane I didnt really join the party til fall, came from winmo, never gonna go back. Thanks for helping me learn.
And for real, I need an ETA on dual boot windows xp, lmfao.
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I'll be right behing you! You have me intrigued with the Windows XP/7 on the phone. I know people say why, but if it did happen, you know how many people would jump on it. This is coming from someone who ditched Windows last year.
Can't wait till 3D day! I know I'm driving my wife nuts but she knew what she was getting into when she married me! LOL
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I'm getting an iPhone 4 on AT&T.
Yeah, I just threw up in my mouth a little just saying that... actually, 3vo for me on the 24th.
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Count me in. Evo3d asap. Gonna camp out in the store parking lot on the 22nd. My boss was even nice enough to give me that night off. He understands my obsession for tech. Can't wait to wrap my hands around that phone. And with a gig ddr and duals running at 1.2 oh sense should be fun to have. Any one check out the Motorola photon??? Dual cores 1.0 nvida- 1 gig ddr2 mem and 16gigs of ob storage. Man tough call lol
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I wanted to wait until the next nexus came out, but after being forced to modify my build.prop file just to get google music, I decided something had to be done. A review of Craigslist, $150, and a little CDMA workshop wizardry, and I got a Droid2 flashed to my carrier. With an 8GB ROM, I don't think I'll need firerats again. It will hold me over until the next nexus comes out.
I'll still follow this thread, mostly because the people here are the best.
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laie1472 said:
Count me in. Evo3d asap. Gonna camp out in the store parking lot on the 22nd. My boss was even nice enough to give me that night off. He understands my obsession for tech. Can't wait to wrap my hands around that phone. And with a gig ddr and duals running at 1.2 oh sense should be fun to have. Any one check out the Motorola photon??? Dual cores 1.0 nvida- 1 gig ddr2 mem and 16gigs of ob storage. Man tough call lol
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Extreme!! Did you mean the 23rd?
Motorola can shove it up their *$$
So can Samsung.
Moto_whatever_the_f_it_is and touch wiz suck.
I like the eye candy of Sense.
7 DAYS AND COUNTING.
I thought it gets released on the 23rd?? And I'm hoping to be the first in line and didn't know you had such bad feelings towards motorola "eek" the only thing that made it tempting was nvida.
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Upgrading as well. Gonna make this bad boy a dedicated media device somehow.
laie1472 said:
I thought it gets released on the 23rd?? And I'm hoping to be the first in line and didn't know you had such bad feelings towards motorola "eek" the only thing that made it tempting was nvida.
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Moto blows. Still encrypted boots. Also the photon cores run at the same clock (synchronous) which is in theory bad for batt life. Touchwiz? HTC all the way.
yea anyone who locks a bootloader should be shot ive said it before and ill say it again android is open source for a reason lmao. speaking of witch way of topic but did yall here about virgin mobles latest fiasco they put it in there t/c that rooting is not allowed how freakin lame is that lol.
i as well will be moving on to the 3vo (as duce calls it).. hopefully on launch day, but i will be on vacation and out of town, so i couldnt pre-order or anything.. hopefully where i will be on vacation will have a sprint store and i can just waltz in and pick it up.. we shall see.. as soon as i get there monday i am going to find the store and try to preorder it then..
good to see some good people moving on
il Duce...
Have you heard about Windows 8? It will support ARM processors and system-on-a-chip (SoC).
yea i cant wait for win8 they made it like wp7 and tiled it out
Best Buy is calling me to make an appt to pick up my 3VO. I kinda wanted to get in line early in the morning, join other idiots doing the same thing and maybe get on news LOL. I'm number 13 on the list and my local BB is getting 30. The reservation good throughout the weekend.
Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
"Hell I don't know anymore"
Don't really see roms disappeared anywhere, and yes many people got the 3vo but it still wasn't ROM per day before the 3vo, just give it time till devs find new and better things to put on ROMs
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Not saying any roms have "disappeared" just seems the updating and developing in the 4G arena had slowed down quite a bit.
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Don't really see roms disappeared anywhere, and yes many people got the 3vo but it still wasn't ROM per day before the 3vo, just give it time till devs find new and better things to put on ROMs
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selders59 said:
Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
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Really? If it is worth crying over why don't you start developing for your phone? These devs do this for fun and free. They don't owe you anything or have to develop on the basis that there is still a large user base. You are not entitled to anything.
Leaning the kitchen is definitely the way to go. That way you can take the best of what you like, and it in.
Much more satisfying too.
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I just see more quality roms
I don't think the OP is ranting against developers, I believe he's ranting against the EVO3D for just existing. least that's the way I saw it.
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selders59 said:
Each day when I come here, I see a big slow down on the developing and updating of roms for the Evo4G. I know allot of the developers and members have gone on to the Evo 3D, but there is still a large number of us that aren't totally sold on the 3D yet. And like in my case it is NOT from being able to afford the 3D cause the price is not the issue. I just think allot of members are being left with a slim choice of roms anymore and the choice is getting slimmer. Thank you 3D!
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1. dude lets face it the evo 4g is now free at many places like target mobile..
2. The Evo 4g while a good phone is now end of life as it has been replaced... Its the way it goes.... We are lucky that the phone was not replaced after about 3 to 6 months. We got a year of updates.... from htc and sprint....
3. why dont you just go and get the evo 3d like i am in november for me...
4. why dont you just root and place some sort of evo 3d rom on your phone... granted it will be slow because of having to use the transflash card for everything.... since you need atleast a 2gb partition on it as ext3
You have definitely taken this wrong. And I have NEVER said the devs.owe us anything. Just making an observation. So don't try to inject things into my words that I am not stating.
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Really? If it is worth crying over why don't you start developing for your phone? These devs do this for fun and free. They don't owe you anything or have to develop on the basis that there is still a large user base. You are not entitled to anything.
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IMO, I love HTC, but the hardware changes aren't worth me wasting my upgrade right now. I'll just wait for Fiscal Q1 2012 when everything will have major changes.
for example:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-quad-core-android-tablet-codenamed-kal-el-video/
that's a major hardware change from everything else. That would make me upgrade no problem....
I'm not saying from eVo to 3vO isn't an upgrade, just not enough for me
Man I can definitely see everyone does not read this correctly. It was just made as an observation and that was it. As for getting a 3D like I said the cost is nothing, as if and when I decide to get a 3D I will be purchasing more than one. My issue is Performance wise and I have tested it side by side at Sprint with my phone running virus's B1.3 rom. And even the tech I know there said outside of the 3D pics and videos, the processor just a hair bigger, and the increase in memory there really was not a significant difference in the performance. As he even stated that the rom I am using runs and makes transitions just as smooth as the 3D.
So I think I will just hold off til something with some more significant changes in software and hardware comes out before I use my upgrades or money on.
"Hell I don't know anymore"
I think the bottom line is a combination of factors.
The devs have done 2.1 and 2.2 pretty much to death.
AOSP, Sense 3.0, and GB are more intriguing to more and more people, but there is a lack of source code.
There are other higher-profile projects for devs, including rooting 2.3 and, yes, rooting and developing for the 3D.
But I agree with the other suggestions that you look into cooking your own ROMs, or maybe get into app development. That's what I'm doing, but it's also just for fun. Be creative. Just make a nandroid first.
Progress is a *****. Get over it.
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IMO, I love HTC, but the hardware changes aren't worth me wasting my upgrade right now. I'll just wait for Fiscal Q1 2012 when everything will have major changes.
for example:
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/16/nvidia-quad-core-android-tablet-codenamed-kal-el-video/
that's a major hardware change from everything else. That would make me upgrade no problem....
I'm not saying from eVo to 3vO isn't an upgrade, just not enough for me
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I want to believe this is true but I think it's all speculation for quad cores coming to phones when dual cores are barely being introduced to some phones...Evo 3D being one of them. I agree though, I'm waiting until an ice cream sandwich phone (from someone other than Samsung) comes out..or a phone with higher specs to come out before I even consider getting a new phone.
I can see your comment is a suggestion as to your IQ gumbo. It really is surprising when people take observations you make as "crying" then post highly intellectural comments like "get over it" . ROFLMAO you make me laugh.
GumboChief said:
Progress is a *****. Get over it.
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Once the kernel source is released we will see more development. Other than the original android phone the "G1" the EVO has seen major development over other phones and continues to do so. The EVO has had quit a run in my opinion. How many other phones get a update after a year of service? Not many. Once we see a non 3d version of the dual core I personally will be upgrading. For now I believe the shift ports are giving the EVO one more run.
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I see it the same as SilverZero. It's not the Evo 3D or any other new sexy phone that's slowing ROM development. It's simply that Froyo's been done and still no source code for Gingerbread. So, things are slow. That said, I still see a lot of port successes (and failures) in Development and incremental tweaks on existing GB roms.
What would you like to see?
OP, just flash Synergy Rom and call it a day. It's the smoothed, zippiest Rom I have ever flashed. There's no denying it. With Synergy Rom on my EVO 4G, it's absolutely keeping me from getting the EVO 3D. It's that good.
I'm gonna hold off on upgrading for a little while at least three to six months to see what else is gonna become available.
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OP, just flash Synergy Rom and call it a day. It's the smoothed, zippiest Rom I have ever flashed. There's no denying it. With Synergy Rom on my EVO 4G, it's absolutely keeping me from getting the EVO 3D. It's that good.
I'm gonna hold off on upgrading for a little while at least three to six months to see what else is gonna become available.
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+1 on Synergy, & I'm waiting for whenever the WiThin drops before I even think of making any decision to get rid of my EVO. I even still have my Epic sitting unactivated. Decisions decisions LOL
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Folks don't take me wrong, the 3D is an advancement and the developers here are top notch and so are a majority of the members. I have made and will continue to make donations to this site and the devs both in support and financially. I just know there are allot of folks still going to keep their evo's for awhile more and would hate to see the loss of further rom developing for our devices. If I had the knowledge and time to get into developing I would for the community. But I don't. As running a business and being part of several organizations for handicapped children takes up most of my time besides my own family. I apologize if this thread has been tasken by some in the wrong context.
piscesjoey said:
+1 on Synergy, & I'm waiting for whenever the WiThin drops before I even think of making any decision to get rid of my EVO. I even still have my Epic sitting unactivated. Decisions decisions LOL
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