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exchange [corporate] email sync = useless phone?

hi everyone,
ive been using a slew of custom roms since our lovely heroes got rooted snd on everyone I setup my work email and calendar along w/ my gmail. When using sense roms it didnt seem to be a problem, same battery life/responsiveness with or without it.
I'm now using CM6, flashing the dailies actually. and after one flash my phone was extremely laggy and the power control widget wasnt working so i wiped, and it was running flawless, fantastic battery life to boot, best i ever had.
I then decided to resetup my exchange email, and boom the phone is garbage. laggy beyond normal use and watching the battery percentage drop from 94 to 89 in the matter of minutes, i chalked it up to it resycning the emails, so i waited it out about an hour, battery life was 67%...so that pinpointed my culprit...
even after setting all my accounts not to sync [i didnt see an option to pinpoint 1], i get the same responsiveness from my phone. It's only after removing it from my accounts and sync section the phone returns to normal.
ps i've only set the calendar (not contacts) to sync, and 3 days of email syncing every hour (longest delay, the sense roms let you pick longer or manual)
anyone have any thoughts? and please dont say use touchdown, i tried it and its not for me. thanks for reading.

Exchange Sync on mine drains the battery to, if its set to PUSH email, if you set it at an interval - even 10 minutes its not so bad. I have mine set to 1 hour and 1 day (About 100 emails a day), so it checks it 6-7 times through the work day, and then I can manually refresh when I am at home. I wish I could set a schedule on it - I don't need the exchange email between 8-5 because the people who email me are 30 feet away and they usually just yell after they send the email. After 5 if it switched to push on its own, it would be awesome.
That being said, the phone is still completely usable with exchange setup, just a battery whore.
EDIT:
I have noticed that even though it is set to an interval, if you are in the email app, or open it it seems to force a sync regardless of settings. I wonder if it does this in the background. I have never paid close enough attention to see.

thanks for the reply, good to know im not the only one whose corporate email sync is a battery hog.
in the mean time i've actually found a bit of a workaround i figure i share for anyone else in my situation. since i barely checked my email but used the calendar alot. I downloaded Google Calendar Sync software on my work pc and set it up to do a 1 way sync and put my Outlook calendar on my google calendar, which syncs with my phone obviously.
So far so good, but i hope the exchange sync issues dont go unnoticed within the CM6 dev team.

G2 email application causes inordinate battery drain

I can conclusively state that the "Email" application on our G2 is responsible for consuming an inordinate amount of battery, because it does not properly sleep. When I had my phone configured to use Exchange/Activesync via the built-in sync and Email application, it would consistently be at the top of the "partial wake" list. Generally, the partial wake breakdown is a good starting point to determine which apps may be misbehaving. The following bug appears to be what we are seeing here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9307
To validate the battery drain, I completely deleted the account associated with Exchange and installed Touchdown (3rd party Exchange sync app). The difference is substantial. I was previously at 50% battery after just a few hours, where I can now make it easily through the entire day without charging.
Short story: If you're using the built in Email app (not Gmail, that is fine), try removing the account associated with it for a day and observe the change in battery life.

rmk40 said:
I can conclusively state that the "Email" application on our G2 is responsible for consuming an inordinate amount of battery, because it does not properly sleep. When I had my phone configured to use Exchange/Activesync via the built-in sync and Email application, it would consistently be at the top of the "partial wake" list. Generally, the partial wake breakdown is a good starting point to determine which apps may be misbehaving. The following bug appears to be what we are seeing here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9307
To validate the battery drain, I completely deleted the account associated with Exchange and installed Touchdown (3rd party Exchange sync app). The difference is substantial. I was previously at 50% battery after just a few hours, where I can now make it easily through the entire day without charging.
Short story: If you're using the built in Email app (not Gmail, that is fine), try removing the account associated with it for a day and observe the change in battery life.
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I've also noticed this, if you search this forum for activesync you'll find where I diagnosed it along with the facebook app as being two things that drain your battery.
My fix was to instead just forward my email to a gmail and use gmail's push functionality. Works great, and gmail lets you change your "send from" address so it's completely transparent to anyone you send mail to.
Just thought I'd let you know you're not the only one.
The "email" (NOTE: NOT GMAIL) app does seem to drain battery, at least when used with Exchange ActiveSync.

Did u guys change the check interval time? Iirc when u make an account it defaults to checking every 15 minutes. Sure way to kill the battery. Just a thought
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The Great NY said:
Did u guys change the check interval time? Iirc when u make an account it defaults to checking every 15 minutes. Sure way to kill the battery. Just a thought
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Unfortunately the interval makes no difference. The app basically does not sleep, even if I set it to never poll. In fact, I set it to not poll at all for an entire day and rebooted before writing this post.

There must be something else at play on your setup. I have zero problems with partial wake using the email app with my company's exchange server.

I have Exchange sync set on push, gmail set on push, and 2 other accounts set to 1 hour polling, and I get a full day's use out of the battery. Off the charger at 6 AM, back on around 11 PM (usually with about 25% battery remaining).

jgriff63 said:
I have Exchange sync set on push, gmail set on push, and 2 other accounts set to 1 hour polling, and I get a full day's use out of the battery. Off the charger at 6 AM, back on around 11 PM (usually with about 25% battery remaining).
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Same. But 9am to 2am

My battery will drain significantly faster just by having gmail sync activated...so for me, that's just as much of a kill. I don't really need that feature for the time being so I've turned it off which doubles my usage time
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Again syncing email with the company exchange server, syncing tweetdroid every 9 minutes after 8 hour so f very light use still at 86%

Perhaps volume of email is a factor. I get 200+ emails per day and I can imagine that having an affect on perceived battery drain
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Sgs lags only when using Samsung email

Hi,
As the title says. .can u guys try it out. .im running on foryo now but the same thing was on 2.1...
It only lags when i configure an email account in the email client. ..once deleted NO LAG. .
Btw what's up with the gps fuss. .mine is working perfectly infact its best gps and wifi in a phone i owned.
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SGS also lags when browsing through different memos in Memos application. It's hilarious!

u didn't get what im saying it only lags after configuring an email account. ..ex ur memo browsing might not lag if u remove ur email account. .
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Well, I don't have seperate email accounts configured, only Gmail.... so don't know about that.

Either you've never had a gps-enabled phone before, or your previous phones have been useless, as my experience is that my old G1 has better gps than my SGS - it locks MUCH faster and is 100% accurate, whereas the SGS never gets within 10m of my location and once I start moving it just goes haywire - MY Tracks shows me driving through fields and houses 90% of the time and occasionally I've done handbrake turns in someones front garden apparently.

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Either you've never had a gps-enabled phone before, or your previous phones have been useless, as my experience is that my old G1 has better gps than my SGS - it locks MUCH faster and is 100% accurate, whereas the SGS never gets within 10m of my location and once I start moving it just goes haywire - MY Tracks shows me driving through fields and houses 90% of the time and occasionally I've done handbrake turns in someones front garden apparently.
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I don't know but i never faced an issue like that and the fix is pretty fast compared to my touch pro and omnia 2
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Lag also without email-accounts
Since upgrading to FroYo 2 weeks ago i haven't bothered to enter my email-accounts. (only gmail)
But it still lags!

dspjern said:
Since upgrading to FroYo 2 weeks ago i haven't bothered to enter my email-accounts. (only gmail)
But it still lags!
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You can add my name to this list. I've never used Samsung's crappy E-mail app, yet my phone lags constantly.
Back to the drawing board, eh?

adel6 said:
Hi,
As the title says. .can u guys try it out. .im running on foryo now but the same thing was on 2.1...
It only lags when i configure an email account in the email client. ..once deleted NO LAG. .
Btw what's up with the gps fuss. .mine is working perfectly infact its best gps and wifi in a phone i owned.
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I have experienced the same thing, i mainly experience the lag in the email app itself though. System Panel shows a steady 30% cpu usage when just looking at the email screen(s), and a steady continious +50% cpu when in the Accounts & Settings of the email accounts, so there is something odd. It seems to relate to Exchange accounts, but i'm not sure.
I read somewhere that a K9-mail user had a problem, downloading 20-25 messages took 10 minutes. After applying Voodoo Lagfix, this dropped to 2 seconds... So maybe the email app is really hammering the internal SD card for no good reason, which would explain the high CPU .

I've never used Samsung's crappy E-mail app
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the e-mail app on the Galaxy S identical to the "stock Android" one?
I use the GMail app myself and I have no problems with it. The Memo app turned painfully slow after the 2.2 update, but fortunately I don't use it

pwhooftman said:
I have experienced the same thing, i mainly experience the lag in the email app itself though. System Panel shows a steady 30% cpu usage when just looking at the email screen(s), and a steady continious +50% cpu when in the Accounts & Settings of the email accounts, so there is something odd. It seems to relate to Exchange accounts, but i'm not sure.
I read somewhere that a K9-mail user had a problem, downloading 20-25 messages took 10 minutes. After applying Voodoo Lagfix, this dropped to 2 seconds... So maybe the email app is really hammering the internal SD card for no good reason, which would explain the high CPU .
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I haven't bothered investigating cpu usage and such, but I can confirm that the email client profits tremendously from a lag fix (OCLF, in my case, using two Exchange accounts).

As stated in Post #11, i had the same problems. After Setting back to Factory Defaults and installing Voodoo Lagix last night, my conclusions are:
- the problem is introduced/highly aggrevated by installing Froyo 2.2 over Eclair 2.1, which i did through Kies with the registry hack two weeks ago.
- a format of the Internal SD Card, followed by a reset to Factory Defaults, solves the problem to a point the email app is useable again (albeit no speed monster). Also, this solved other ittermittent force closes which i was suffering from mostly in Agenda related apps. Of course you will loose all apps and data doing this.
- Applying Voodoo lagfix solved the speed issues almost completely. You can still tell the email app isn't the best programmed app of the bunch, but its perfectly workable. Installing Voodoo was a breeze following the step by step instructions found through project-voodoo.org.

It does seem a little more responsive after removing te email account.
I will try the voodoo lagfix. But I'm hoping for an updated version of FroYo.

Try this app for email including exchange, it was provided by seven for Samsung, but it was not put on all Galaxy S's, seems to work quite well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8731758&postcount=25
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Running JP6 with voodoo. The default mail app works nicely with two accounts. One exchange and one imap.
No lags even with a few days uptime.

Exchange email accounts drain battery fast on Scandinavian Froyo update
To illustrate something is amiss with the Scandinavian Froyo update, that Samsung pulled afterwards:
If you set up Exchange email accounts, setting the Email retrieval update interval to anything else than 'Never' results in a continious 10% CPU load, draining the battery two times faster than in Eclair 2.1
I set it to 'Never', or have Tasker kill the Email app x seconds after Display Off
Determined by using System Panel app.
Edit: flashed JPA firmware (which is believed to be the official Froyo update coming 11-11), problem still exists

Test with K9 and default Android Email app on i9000
Did a test on my i9000. Stock 2.1 no lag fix. Bought SIM-Free so only has Samsung's tweaks and no mobile operator branding.
I9000XXJM1
ECLAIR.XWJM2
TEST A. Default Email application
1. Used Email app (default one that comes with Android):
Added two Gmail accounts / IMAP, SMTP, SSL.
No unacceptable lag other than that encounted without the usual lag-fix.
2. Added 1 non-Gmail account / IMAP/ SMTP-AUTH, TLS
System became nearly inoperative. Swiping between home screens took 2 seconds. Using most apps, caused the screen to remain black for between 2 and 30 seconds. In one case using Xscope (browser, which was now impossible to use - unresponsive and 3 mins to draw a page) caused the screen to remain black for approx 3 mins. Contact, Messenger and Phone apps took a max of 2 seconds to open, but always opened. Outbound call quality degraded to the point the called party complained. I did not notice an app crash.
TEST B. K9 Mail application
1. Used K9-Mail app :
Added two Gmail accounts / IMAP, SMTP, SSL.
No unacceptable lag other than that encounted without the usual lag-fix.
2. Added 1 non-Gmail account / IMAP/ SMTP-AUTH, TLS
System became nearly inoperative. Swiping between home screens took 2 seconds. Using most apps, caused the screen to remain black for between 2 and 30 seconds. In one case using Xscope (browser, which was now impossible to use - unresponsive and 3 mins to draw a page) caused the screen to remain black for approx 3 mins. Contact, Messenger and Phone apps took a few seconds to open. Outbound call quality degraded to the point the called party complained. I did not notice an app crash. System load hit 39, which is very overloaded for a 1 CPU device. Often it was between 10 and 20.
I suspect the I/O but I did not see iostat in busybox; the stdout from top was badly formatted on the SGS display so I could not read the I/O column.
Notes:
i. Test B Result 2 is almost a copy and past of Test A Result 2. This is because the results were pretty much the same.
ii. System load (vmstat and top) I did not check system load with Test A. I only did this when I used K9-Mail.
iii. System was rebooted each time after an IMAP account was configured.
iv. I have since removed the non-Gmail IMAP accounts. It was hell. I almost beat the SGS into the wall.
v. Important: the non-Gmail IMAP account has the following in the mailbox:
Inbox 658 messages totalling 68.4Mb.
vi. K9-Mail configured to fetch full headers and messages <2kB hourly, and only the fetch the Inbox.
vii. NON-Gmail IMAP server capacities:
* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR SORT THREAD=REFERENCES MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT LITERAL+ IDLE CHILDREN NAMESPACE LOGIN-REFERRALS UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 STARTTLS AUTH=PLAIN] Dovecot ready.
No problem here - Google use Dovecot.
viii. A factory reset was done between the two tests. (Settings -> Privacy -> Factory data reset)
viiii. GMAIL IMAP accounts contained approx 20 Emails each in the Inbox. I await more SPAM for testing purposes.
UPDATE.
I had 1,000 Emails sent to me on Gmail. Then reran Test A Part 1, and had the Email app load 114 of these. The SGS stated to lag. I opened one of the messages (containing only 1 line of ASCII email), and the Email partially opened the Email, splutted, stopped, hung, screen went black. Eventually, I closed the app down. Even the Active Applications widget (and the programme it lauches) is slow (and red).
I went onto Gmail and deleted the 1,000 Emails, and synced the Email app with Gmail IMAP server. Messages read 0, and the SGS was back to normal speed without lag-fix.
I soubt very much that any one is using a normal Email account with the SGS Email app. I suspect most are using Gmail with the Gmail application. I cannot comment on the lag fix (I await CyanogenMod for mine), but the SGS cannot be used with a non-Gmail account without a lag fix : useless for me since I only use Gmail for the Market ; Like many people, work provides the Email account. Clearly, Samsung test team did not test their wonderful RFS with normally sized IMAP accounts. Nice one, Samsung. 10 out of 10 for cocking it up.
As for GPS its something like thsi:
- Where are the sats?
Oh there they are.
Please don't move for 30 seconds.
Found some!
Oh feck, you've moved.
Now where are those pesky sats?
What was I doing? Oh sats!

Setting Exchange to'"Push" seems to solve it
I came across this and lo and behold, excessive CPU usage goes down to fairly normal 1-3% CPU while asleep by setting Email retrieval for Exchange accounts to "Push"
Edit: at least, it did for a while. Now its back to previous behaviour. I'm still investigating

Series of tests reveal that email client performs different in certain circumstances
I made a lot of testruns of about one hour to determine the effect of setting up Email Exchange clients on CPU usage and therefore battery life:
Starting point:
- Build Froyo.XWJPA
- Smallband I9000XXJPP
- Voodoo lagfix
- One Gmail account set up, syncing contacts, Gmail, Picassa, Agenda
- Tests run against two separate Exchange Server 2003 servers SP2
- CPU load determined with SystemPanel app
1. Installed Exchange account #1 without security policies. Email retrieval set to "Push".
- Email process used 0% CPU, system CPU floating around 3%
2. Set Exchange account #1 to retrieve email every hour
- Email process used 1,1% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
3. Set Exchange account #1 back to "Push"
- Email process used 0% CPU, system CPU floating around 3%
4. Set Exchange account #1 to retrieve every 5 minutes
- Email process used 1,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
4. Added Exchange Account #2 with security policy, Email retrieval set to "Push"
- - Email process used 0,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
5. Set Exchange account #2 to retrieve email every hour
- Email process used 1,5% CPU, system CPU floating around 10%
So, what seem conclusions from this test:
1. One Exchange account set to `Push` doesn´t affect battery life much. 'Push' is generally considered the most battery effective.
2. One Exchange account set to some time interval does affect CPU considerably, therefore batterylife also. It's irrelevant what interval is set. The reason the total system CPU goes to around 10% seems to be that the process name ´system´ starts using several % CPU as soon as the email process does. Based on the experience that the email client is slow with an exchange account without a lagfix leads me to the conclusion the email app is performing large amounts of I/O in this setting. This link (comment 14) seems to confirm this. Experiences here (comment 15 & 16) are similar.
3. Adding another Exchange account with security policy enforced increases CPU, no matter at what interval this second account is set. This could be related to the bug found on Motorola Droid that when the Maximum inactivity time out in the Activesync properties on the Exchange server are set to a higher value than the highest supported value on the phone, the email app keeps the phone in a wake lock.
So, i just have my exchange accounts set to Never. For one account, automatic retrieval is useless anyways because mail gets delivered to subfolders (which do not sync or get pushed automatically). Fot the other, i'll just have to open the email app every now and then and let it fetch mail at that moment.
This problem doesn't seem to be limited to the Galaxy S, Motorola Droid is mentioned also in above threads.

Improved Email
I can advise everyone to look into "Improved Email" at http://www.mwebster.us/
It has the ability to sync specific subfolders, hide subfolders, apply color of your choice to the account, open up the email app in folder view, etc
Tip: first delete exisiting Exchange account and setup a new account from within the improved email app

My Quest of finding a Solution to Battery Drain and some funny stuffs

I have got my galaxy S2 for a week now. I absolutely love the phone. Just that the battery problem is killing me. I only manage to get half day of usage for the phone. Then I started reading infinite number of threads on xda on battery issue. I basically tried every possible methods:
flashing so many roms (on decided to stay on KF2 right now),
deleting all widgets(could be),
root the phone and install titanium backup to delete a lot of software which ppl
classified as the source of the drain(could be),
disable fast dormancy(dun see the difference),
disable push email and sync(could be),
using advance task killer to kill app every hr (dun work),
juice defender(dun work)...
etc etc...
SOMEHOW, my battery drain issue STOPPED yesterday!!! I still dunno what exactly is causing it to stop draining. But I DID find out a pattern, when we go to the battery plot section, if the phone shows a solid "Awake" bar, then the battery drains very fast.
So I started trying very possible way to stop the phone being "awake", the above methods I marked as cound be are the ones that I think can actually help. Using advance task killer does make a "segmented awake bar" for a few minutes, but it becomes a solid bar soon after, so no use (i found "clean memory" function comes with the phone better than ATK). Deleting widgets wont stop the phone being awake but it certainly makes my phone feeling lighter and faster. Then I rooted the phone, and start using titanium backup to delete ( i cant just freeze with free version) the possible softwares, e.g the hubs, wifi-sharing, softwaire updates. Then all in a sudden, the phone tries to sleep!!!
For me, I think social hub could be making the phone awake (at least it must be one of them), but I NEED if I need to use the email app that come with the phone for receiving emails from hotmail.
funny stuff starts....
So solve it, I imported my hotmail account to gmail using POP so that I can use gmail app to check hotmail. But then my hotmail and gmail start going crazy...!!
Reason: I did similar setting before in my hotmail account to receive gmails in to my hotmail account. What happens next is... Yes.. I basically created a "loop function" which makes the two accounts keep exchanging emails automatically to one another.. I received 1000+ emails in just a few minutes and it keeps going faster and faster.!!! > < Therefore I wont try this again!!!!
Can someone tell me a solution of getting hotmail emails in other ways besides those stupid apps (e.g android mail) in the android market which basically acts as a bookmark to get you to the hotmail page? MANY THANKS!

One of these might help:
POP your hotmail into a new yahoo mail account and install yahoo mail client.
Set up a new gmail account and POP hotmail into it, use gmail client to read main and this new account.
Figure out whats wrong with your phone that makes samsung stock mail waste juice, I use it for exchange mail and it's just a bit more hungry than what I would have wanted, I get through a heavy usage day just fine.

JuiceDefender surely helps. I'm getting 2 days with medium usage, KE7 stock firmware. Yes, as you said if you have background tasks, that will kill the battery, but just close them if you don't need them. Also disable auto-sync, and let only your email sync.

Thank you kreo, i will try yahoo mail account with ur method!

[Q] exchange email destroying my battery...and life

I know there are already numerous topics on this, and some temp Fixes, but I am about to just get rid of this phone, android, its so frustrating....and yes, i do need exchange email for my job,....this is whats going:
I'm seriously beyond annoyed at this point, exchange email is destroying my battery life on my nexus 4 running stock 4.2.2 (30% to 40% of battery consumption) ... I have done all the little "fixes" and troubleshooting that you can possible do to try to fix this and have spent hours searching online for any fixes, and all I have found is people having the same issue as me.....this is what I have done already:
I've removed the exchange email,
re-booted
re-added
cleared cache
clear data
re-booted
disabled
enable
set days to sync to 1 days, 3 days, automatic, etc....
check frequency to push, never, 1 hour etc....
I've disabled auto-sync data
enabled
i went to my outlook 365 web settings and under phones i deleted the nexus 4 profile..
in the exchange email settings on my phone i have used "m.outlook.com" for my server name
and the generic server name pulled from the outlook 365 web address recommended by the IT guy at my job
i have used and removed the Port "443"
the only thing i haven't done is throw the phone against the wall
oh and I have done factory reset TWICE! and that fixes the issue temporarily until this starts occurring again, oh and did i mention it gets super hot over 101°....the weird thing is I have the same exchange email setup on my nexus 7 and it barely hits 3% of battery usage, so why is my nexus 4 suffering from exchange email battery drain, and my nexus 7 doesn't? Unfortunately i work in a job where i need PUSH email on due to the industry i work in (merchants/e-commerce) my job offered to get me a company iPhone and I don't want to carry 2 phones, especially an iPhone.....anyone know any magical secret to fixing this? Or is this a 4.2+ bug that has no solution at this point....

Are you using a custom kernel? If not flash one. I recommend trinity, but test and choose which works best for you. Lower the CPU some to reduce the heating with any various app. I'm using trickster mod.
I have stock email set but I have it to manual updating. I get roughly 7-8 hours screen hours screen on time with WiFi around 5 with mobile data. Hope this helps some.

benman715 said:
Are you using a custom kernel? If not flash one. I recommend trinity, but test and choose which works best for you. Lower the CPU some to reduce the heating with any various app. I'm using trickster mod.
I have stock email set but I have it to manual updating. I get roughly 7-8 hours screen hours screen on time with WiFi around 5 with mobile data. Hope this helps some.
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No i am running stock android 4.2.....Thanks for the advice, but I do not want to flash, root, etc... my stock nexus 4. I shouldn't have to in order to fix something that comes stock in android 4.2. I would prefer to just run the stock android and let Google deal with updates, I know android phones are awesome at customization, but I am one who likes stock android as is (nexus devices) I dont like tweaking with custom roms, no matter how stable they are, cause I always read threads on people always having issues with apps not being compatible, radio issues, manual updates on roms, etc...but I completely understand the benefits of custom roms and kernels, as you pointed out above. thanks again but this is not going to solve my issue.

I reckon I understand your feeling although the whole reason I got this device is for customization. With newer phones boot loaders being locked down and a drag to work with, this thing is great.
If you keep it stock thats fine but to save batter youd probably have to cut down a lot. Turn screen brightness all the way off, disable auto sync, disable apps you dont use so they dont run in the background. Turn off GPS and location settings unless they're in use. Stay on WiFi / 2G when not using data. Kinda a drag yano?

benman715 said:
I reckon I understand your feeling although the whole reason I got this device is for customization. With newer phones boot loaders being locked down and a drag to work with, this thing is great.
If you keep it stock thats fine but to save batter youd probably have to cut down a lot. Turn screen brightness all the way off, disable auto sync, disable apps you dont use so they dont run in the background. Turn off GPS and location settings unless they're in use. Stay on WiFi / 2G when not using data. Kinda a drag yano?
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exactly, I mean i get the pros and cons for both stock and flashing, rooting etc....but I am no dev, and i know some of the stuff is easy to do, but I get OCD about having to worry if the kernel or ROM is up to date, will all my favorite apps work, what if I brick my phone etc....i just like the nexus devices where it is bone stock.....
as for all the other settings for saving the battery, I already do all the battery saving tips, but its funny cause they dont seem to affect the battery as much as the email exchange...i should have posted a pic...

Weird indeed. I'm using three e-mail accounts on my phone with hourly updates and it doesn't kill the battery. I still get 4 hours of screen on time (need to charge once in 24 hours usually). Did you set it so that it doesn't download attachments, pictures etc?

drbrainsol said:
Weird indeed. I'm using three e-mail accounts on my phone with hourly updates and it doesn't kill the battery. I still get 4 hours of screen on time (need to charge once in 24 hours usually). Did you set it so that it doesn't download attachments, pictures etc?
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I am using the exchange email (yellow and white icon) that comes stock in android 4.2, and I have it set to Push notification which is suppose to help with battery, and i have turned off that setting that says "auto download attachments on WIFI only" but that setting is for WIFI only which doesnt make sense cause even with it off, when I am on regular 4G data, its still killing battery.....
I give up...maybe with all the current complaints on this issue, google may send out a new update.....

gmonterrosa82 said:
I am using the exchange email (yellow and white icon) that comes stock in android 4.2, and I have it set to Push notification which is suppose to help with battery, and i have turned off that setting that says "auto download attachments on WIFI only" but that setting is for WIFI only which doesnt make sense cause even with it off, when I am on regular 4G data, its still killing battery.....
I give up...maybe with all the current complaints on this issue, google may send out a new update.....
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i wish i could help, but i'm using my Nexus 4 the exact same as yours (100% stock) and i've not had any of those problems (my Exchange Service is sitting at 3%), so it may not be as widespread as you think.
good luck with this though.

Question to the OP. Are you adding your exchange through the email app or in settings > accounts > corporate?
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Lucke said:
i wish i could help, but i'm using my Nexus 4 the exact same as yours (100% stock) and i've not had any of those problems (my Exchange Service is sitting at 3%), so it may not be as widespread as you think.
good luck with this though.
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its weird i know, but if you spend as many hours, days, searching the internet like I have, you will find how many many people are having this issue on android 4.1 and above.....My head hurts from reading so many threads with my exact issue, and people giving some temp fixes, and some fixes that didnt even work....its frustrating,
but i will say i just re-added my exchange email and chose 1 month of emails to download rather then "automatic" and so far its creeping up to 2% but getting hot.....its at 92 degrees

El Daddy said:
Question to the OP. Are you adding your exchange through the email app or in settings > accounts > corporate?
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ah, good question, so I have tested both methods, adding it through the "corporate" option, and adding it through "email" option, both gave me identical issues....do you know which method I should be using? I mean i already tried both, and both were draining my battery but if I can just focus on just one method then it wont drive me crazy.....The only difference I notice is, when you do it through "corporate" it goes straight into the exchange settings, when you go through the "email" method it will ask you after entering the email address and password, "POP3, IMAP, and exchange...i chose exchange, and then it goes into the default exchange settings area just like the email option....

gmonterrosa82 said:
ah, good question, so I have tested both methods, adding it through the "corporate" option, and adding it through "email" option, both gave me identical issues....do you know which method I should be using? I mean i already tried both, and both were draining my battery but if I can just focus on just one method then it wont drive me crazy.....The only difference I notice is, when you do it through "corporate" it goes straight into the exchange settings, when you go through the "email" method it will ask you after entering the email address and password, "POP3, IMAP, and exchange...i chose exchange, and then it goes into the default exchange settings area just like the email option....
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I was just curious because I use the "corporate" method with my work account, but don't have any issues. I will see heavy battery drain if our server goes down, otherwise I don't have issues.
Another thing you could try is an app from the market. I know its probably not an ideal solution, but maybe something like touchdown will alleviate the issue.
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El Daddy said:
I was just curious because I use the "corporate" method with my work account, but don't have any issues. I will see heavy battery drain if our server goes down, otherwise I don't have issues.
Another thing you could try is an app from the market. I know its probably not an ideal solution, but maybe something like touchdown will alleviate the issue.
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yeah i am currently using the corporate method, and it still sucks battery.....but you know what I have notice, which may be a clue, the internet at my job is really really slow, our outlook emails take forever sometimes to send, receive, etc....so I am going to assume this is probably affecting my email on my phone as well....so I just set my exchange email to "never" check instead of "push" and i have told my job that their slow internet is killing my phones battery lol

Been using this phone and the stock email client for exchange since launch and have used multiple roms & kernels. Never had any battery drain issues and things were only getting better...until Monday of this week. That's when all hell broke loose. Full battery drained in record time. Overheating, barely responsive and overall just not being a good phone. Tried going back to stock and some other rom / kernel combos. Even tried a sim from a different carrier, the problem persists.
A couple days prior to phoneageddon I was prompted to setup the email app as a device administrator (See ScreenShot) a hand full of times. I usually only see this whenever I setup the account, after a wipe and whatnot. Since phoneageddon I have noticed that whenever the exchange services starts to act up, I know that sometime soon I will be prompted again. Whether or not this is related or not is unknown.
I just so happen to be an Exchange Admin at my company and know that no policy changes have been made in past couple weeks and that Windows patches were installed on the 1st.
We have ~2000 mobile devices of different flavors connecting to our mail system and so far no one else has reported a problem. Until this is resolved I have gone back to using TouchDown, no problems what so ever.
I will try to reproduce the problem fresh tomorrow or this weekend sometime and grab the logs from the server to post on here. I went through them once before and nothing stood out.

hideous said:
Been using this phone and the stock email client for exchange since launch and have used multiple roms & kernels. Never had any battery drain issues and things were only getting better...until Monday of this week. That's when all hell broke loose. Full battery drained in record time. Overheating, barely responsive and overall just not being a good phone. Tried going back to stock and some other rom / kernel combos. Even tried a sim from a different carrier, the problem persists.
A couple days prior to phoneageddon I was prompted to setup the email app as a device administrator (See ScreenShot) a hand full of times. I usually only see this whenever I setup the account, after a wipe and whatnot. Since phoneageddon I have noticed that whenever the exchange services starts to act up, I know that sometime soon I will be prompted again. Whether or not this is related or not is unknown.
I just so happen to be an Exchange Admin at my company and know that no policy changes have been made in past couple weeks and that Windows patches were installed on the 1st.
We have ~2000 mobile devices of different flavors connecting to our mail system and so far no one else has reported a problem. Until this is resolved I have gone back to using TouchDown, no problems what so ever.
I will try to reproduce the problem fresh tomorrow or this weekend sometime and grab the logs from the server to post on here. I went through them once before and nothing stood out.
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wow sounds similar to me, its just unacceptable, and the IT guy here just informed me that he hasnt changed anything on his end, so it cant be the servers fault for the massive draining of battery on my phone, he told me all the other users with iphones, are set up the same, PUSH, and automatic email downloads, and none of them are reporting any massive battery draining.
Currently my phone is set to PUSH and 1 week of emails to download, and its already at 19% battery usage for exchange services and 18% email.....this blows...
I wonder why this is happening

Ran the stock email client with logging enabled over the weekend and was unable to reproduce the issue. So the fix is... Enable logging!
BTW, if your Exchange admin allows it, you should be able to access the Exchange Control Panel and start logging for your device yourself. Check with your Admins first!
**While you shouldn't be able to anything to destructive in the ECP, you take full responsibility for what may happen.**
How to access the Exchange Control Panel - See ScreenShot:
Log into your company's webmail (OWA)
Click Options (Top Right of screen)
Click 'See All Options'
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Directly by replacing /OWA with /ECP at the end of the URL. From this: https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/OWA to this https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/ECP
Once there, click Phone, find your current device in the list and click start logging.
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DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!
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To stop logging follow the same instructions, but this time the 'Start Logging' button will say 'Retrieve Logs'. It will then email you the log file.
I was getting a 3-5mb log for 24 hours with everything working normally.
It's probably not a good idea to blindly post the log on the internet as it could have personal / company information within. Either sanitize it or if you would trust a random nerd on XDA, PM me and I can help.

hideous said:
Ran the stock email client with logging enabled over the weekend and was unable to reproduce the issue. So the fix is... Enable logging!
BTW, if your Exchange admin allows it, you should be able to access the Exchange Control Panel and start logging for your device yourself. Check with your Admins first!
**While you shouldn't be able to anything to destructive in the ECP, you take full responsibility for what may happen.**
How to access the Exchange Control Panel - See ScreenShot:
Log into your company's webmail (OWA)
Click Options (Top Right of screen)
Click 'See All Options'
-OR -
Directly by replacing /OWA with /ECP at the end of the URL. From this: https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/OWA to this https://email.YOURCOMPANY.com/ECP
Once there, click Phone, find your current device in the list and click start logging.
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DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!
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To stop logging follow the same instructions, but this time the 'Start Logging' button will say 'Retrieve Logs'. It will then email you the log file.
I was getting a 3-5mb log for 24 hours with everything working normally.
It's probably not a good idea to blindly post the log on the internet as it could have personal / company information within. Either sanitize it or if you would trust a random nerd on XDA, PM me and I can help.
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Hey sorry I am a little confused about the part that says "DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!"
So am I suppose to stop the logging at a certain point? And what is the logging suppose to do?
I went into the control panel in the web outlook, and now I am logging.....And sadly the exchange service and email are slowly creeping up to 10% battery usage, and its getting higher and higher as we speak....
I set it to default settings as i did before (Check frequency to Automatic Push) and days to sync always default to "one Month"
and its at 12% now.....this is so frustrating...and the IT guy was not helpful, he said its nothing on his end, which i can understand because this was never an issue on my phone before. now its just massive battery usage....I give up I am going to just create a bookmark shortcut and access the web outlook 365 and have to manually check every once and a while

gmonterrosa82 said:
Hey sorry I am a little confused about the part that says "DO NOT FORGET TO STOP THE LOG!"
So am I suppose to stop the logging at a certain point? And what is the logging suppose to do?
I went into the control panel in the web outlook, and now I am logging.....And sadly the exchange service and email are slowly creeping up to 10% battery usage, and its getting higher and higher as we speak....
I set it to default settings as i did before (Check frequency to Automatic Push) and days to sync always default to "one Month"
and its at 12% now.....this is so frustrating...and the IT guy was not helpful, he said its nothing on his end, which i can understand because this was never an issue on my phone before. now its just massive battery usage....I give up I am going to just create a bookmark shortcut and access the web outlook 365 and have to manually check every once and a while
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AFAIK the logging will continue until you tell it to stop. Which means the file size will continue to grow.
You should stop logging after you have been having issues for a while and take a look.

hideous said:
AFAIK the logging will continue until you tell it to stop. Which means the file size will continue to grow.
You should stop logging after you have been having issues for a while and take a look.
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Well I stopped it, I never got any report, or any attachments of any report...
I probably didnt do it correctly, however I am still getting high battery usage, Right now it shows Exchange service at 23% and the email usage at 21%.... phones temperature is at 92 degrees, very hot!
I just removed the account, and disabled the email service, cleared data, force stop, and it still shows that its draining the battery lol
wow I give up, My job will have to provide me with an iphone.....so i will have 2 phones YAY!