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[Q] Dock problems/questions

I got the dock this afternoon and it worked great. After about an hour of use I got prompted for an update. I installed it, and the tablet rebooted. I went to move the cursor, only to see that it wasn't there. Disconnected and reconnected the tablet and got nothing. Rebooted, nothing.
I tried doing a factory reset, and went back to .9 (from .13). Still nothing.
If I connect the tablet to the dock and plug it into my computer, it's still getting recognized. So I know there is at least some form of communication going through it.
Is there any way to reset the dock or something? Can I tell if it's charging? With the dock plugged into the wall, and the tablet connected there's no lightening bolt in the battery icon (there is if I just plug it straight into the tablet). It also appears that the battery is still going down with it plugged into the dock and the dock plugged into the wall.
Anyone have some suggestions? I'm going on vacation next week and really want to take this with me

You tried everything but the most obvious. Try pressing the touchpad on/off button... 4th button along from the top left on the keyboard dock.

stuntdouble said:
You tried everything but the most obvious. Try pressing the touchpad on/off button... 4th button along from the top left on the keyboard dock.
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Guess I should have worded it better.
The dock doesn't connect to the tablet at all. There's no notification down by the clock. Hitting any button on the keyboard does absolutely nothing.

Also, I can confirm that it's not being charged. For the last hour, the tablet has been in the dock and plugged into the wall. The battery has only gone down.

What happens when you just plug the charger into the dock part, without the tablet connected? Does the little led near the adapter port come on at all?

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What happens when you just plug the charger into the dock part, without the tablet connected? Does the little led near the adapter port come on at all?
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I see nothing with it plugged into the wall or the computer

I just installed Prime 1.3 which has the optional dock firmware. From what I read, it's supposed to prompt me to install it when the tablet is docked. It doesn't...

Sounds like you have a bricked dock then if no power light at all. It happened to a few people after the update. They had to RMA theirs. If you want more details on that you'll have to use search.

stuntdouble said:
Sounds like you have a bricked dock then if no power light at all. It happened to a few people after the update. They had to RMA theirs. If you want more details on that you'll have to use search.
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Yea, awesome. Returning it through Amazon right now. Shame...definitely won't have one before I leave next week.

Navalhawkeye, I had similar issue after updating keyboard. Is there a question mark on battery icon?

When connected to the dock? No. It just shows the normal non-charging icon.

Sounds like yours is even worse than mine..
I can still use the keyboard and trackpad - it still charges my tablet when connected - but the dock battery itself refuses to charge now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1080137
You'd THINK there'd be some sort of 'reset to factory' keypress on the dock - or some way to reset it and its FW, but I haven't found anything.

fu utility
after looking into the fu utility that located in /system/bin/fu, it seems that after the firmware update, there is a service that updates the keyboard if a certain condition is met.
The command to initiate such update is:
Code:
/system/bin/fu -c /system/etc/EC/FU.cfg -d /system/etc/EC/FU-d.cfg /system/etc/EC/TF101-EC-0209.rom
I'm not sure its possible to run this command in unrooted device, so you'll probably need root.
Can someone verify this?

I got the red light come up . n the dock do not charge at all ( alway 0%)....
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khoabui said:
I got the red light come up . n the dock do not charge at all ( alway 0%)....
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Solid or blinking?

Blinking sir!
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ME TOO i have same problem

B50 Tablet B50 keyboard dock.
Opened them both yesterday, updated firmware on both.
OP's #6 is true in my case. The checking and unchecking does nothing for me.
The keyboard dock does not charge at all either.

mmscuba8 said:
Navalhawkeye, I had similar issue after updating keyboard. Is there a question mark on battery icon?
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I had a question mark on battery icon and dock was not being recognized, did not work, but it did charge. How did you solve your issue? I had to send both, tablet and dock in. Got my tablet back today, but dock is still with Asus...

brooklynite said:
B50 Tablet B50 keyboard dock.
Opened them both yesterday, updated firmware on both.
OP's #6 is true in my case. The checking and unchecking does nothing for me.
The keyboard dock does not charge at all either.
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So replying to my own post....
I exchanged the keyboard at Bestbuy. The new one is also a B50 but the serial number is higher. This one does charge up to 100%. BUT touching any key will turn on the device (even when the new power saving option is checked) and it does drain the battery. With the combo off battery went down 6% in 4 hours.
Playing a 720p HD movie using MOBO player and lowest brightness takes about 20% of the battery every hour and it only uses power from the dock until it dies I think because tablet stayed at 100%.
I tested the combo for battery usage and here are the results:
Time Dock Battery Tablet Battery
5:00pm 56% 98%
Wifi Off, Screen Off
9:00pm 50% 98% (6% dock used in 4 hours of sleep)
Wifi On, Screen Off
11:00pm 46% 98% (4% dock used in 2 hours of sleep with WIFI on)
Wifi On, Screen On, Played 1.5 hour 720p HD movie using MOBOPlayer and went to bed and let it sleep 1min after inactivity (default)
9:00am 03% 93% (46% dock and 5% tablet used in 1.5hours of movie playing and 8.5 hours of sleep with with WIFI on)

Waking the Tranformer from the sleep of death

Hey guys,
My Transformer took it's second "sleep of death" early Saturday and it is still in its "coma" state.
It won't turn on or respond to any buttons. Should I contact ASUS about this problem? Any tips on bringing it back to life?
Thanks

Don't have one, but everybody does the same: keep power pressed for several seconds, so the tablet will power off, then power it on again.
Check this forum and the development one, and you will see several threads for the SOD problem. You can turn it on again, but it seems that, right now, there is no failproof method for keeping the tablet to lock while in standby. Well, it seems it doesn't happen if you have the tablet plugged to the charger while in stand by.
Anyway, as I told you, check other posts to see what the people are trying / suffering.
Regards.

If you have it in the keyboard dock I would remove it. Then press the power button in for several seconds.
Did it do that overnight whilst docked? Mine did that There is a known issue with the dock discharging overnight when connected to the tablet. I think Asus are working on a firmware fix for that.

idlefrog said:
If you have it in the keyboard dock I would remove it. Then press the power button in for several seconds.
Did it do that overnight whilst docked? Mine did that There is a known issue with the dock discharging overnight when connected to the tablet. I think Asus are working on a firmware fix for that.
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No I don't have the keyboard.
It has happened twice to me and it's always after charging the device (so far).
I woke it up earlier tonight. It charged fully on Saturday, and was completely dead today. This is probably not too good of an issue...

Only true lives kiss can wake the sleeping transformer from it's unnatural slumber.

CoBrA2168 said:
No I don't have the keyboard.
It has happened twice to me and it's always after charging the device (so far).
I woke it up earlier tonight. It charged fully on Saturday, and was completely dead today. This is probably not too good of an issue...
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did you ever succeed to wake it up? if yes how? whatever i did didn't work....

TF starts when pluging in powercord

I have an TF 32GB + docking.
I have shutdown my transformer completey and removed it from the docking.
When I now plugin the powercord to charge it, the tab always starts up. I dont want that. Is that normal behaviour?

Mine does that as well. I may be wrong ,but i think it charges faster when its turned off, so i often turn it off then plug it in. I need to get into the habit of plugging it in , and then turning it off, I guess.

nexxexium said:
I have an TF 32GB + docking.
I have shutdown my transformer completey and removed it from the docking.
When I now plugin the powercord to charge it, the tab always starts up. I dont want that. Is that normal behaviour?
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It appears to be normal behavior.I know about 5 people with TFs and mine. All turn on when you plug the charger...
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nexxexium said:
I have an TF 32GB + docking.
I have shutdown my transformer completey and removed it from the docking.
When I now plugin the powercord to charge it, the tab always starts up. I dont want that. Is that normal behaviour?
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You can't see if AT is fully charged without see the screen so... that's completely normal, dock has a led that tablet hasn't...

-you choose to shut your tablet down
-you plug power in
-now the tablet acts on its own and powers on
then they should also put a small light on the tablet. my god i'm starting to regret my purchase.
if this is by design then they are completely retarded at asus

Annoying... yes... big deal... no.
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How is this annoying in any way? It's not like it'll charge a significant amount slower with the screen off, and with the screen off there isn't a single way to see it's on if you're 12 and won't want your parents to find out it's turned on after bed time.
You people will ***** about ANYTHING.

My iPhone and the iPad did the same thing,
Plug the power cord in and then shut down, this way it will remain off..

nexxexium said:
-you choose to shut your tablet down
-you plug power in
-now the tablet acts on its own and powers on
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So do this instead (still 3 steps):
-you plug power in
-now the tablet acts on its own and powers on
-you shut your tablet down
Better?

i ***** if i feel like it
Its one extra annoying thing. (Like you cant connect to hidden wifi)
These things are designed by a retard.

I don't know whether there is a technical reason for the power on so I will abstain from judging it to be a mental impairment...

nexxexium said:
Like you cant connect to hidden wifi
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Woah, really?
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nexxexium said:
i ***** if i feel like it
Its one extra annoying thing. (Like you cant connect to hidden wifi)
These things are designed by a retard.
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I have 2 waps and both are hidden. I can connect to both.

nexxexium said:
Like you cant connect to hidden wifi
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Not true. My work wifi SSID isn't broadcasted and I was able to add it to my list and connect easily.
As for the original question...every Android and iDevice I've seen exhibit this behavior.
Maybe you could direct your anger and energy towards the failing economy and make some progress there?

so to reverse only one step (plug then switch off) is for genius

Tigrev said:
So do this instead (still 3 steps):
-you plug power in
-now the tablet acts on its own and powers on
-you shut your tablet down
Better?
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No, it's one step too many. If I run the battery down on my tablet (which I do fairly frequently), then want it to charge as quickly as possible, I shouldn't have to power it back down every time to achieve that.
I'd like to see this behavior changed, and I'm glad to find I'm not the only one irritated by it.
Don't get me wrong -- love the tab, and own two. That doesn't mean there's no room for improvement, though. There's no logical reason to have the tab turn on instantly on charging. (Seeing the charge level doesn't count as a logical reason, because if you're worried about the charge level, you likely don't want to reduce the charging speed to find out the answer -- you likely want it charging as fast as possible until you're ready to leave the charging point.)
I would guess the behavior likely hails from phones, where it actually makes sense. With a phone, you want it active to receive calls all the time, and so starting when you plug it in is logical. With a tablet, it's simply not. Just something Google forgot to correct in Honeycomb, is my guess.

nexxexium said:
These things are designed by a retard.
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And, apparently, operated by the retarded.
Settings -> Wireless and Networks -> Add WiFi Network.

knoxploration said:
No, it's one step too many. If I run the battery down on my tablet (which I do fairly frequently), then want it to charge as quickly as possible, I shouldn't have to power it back down every time to achieve that.
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Well OK, then skip the last step. The display will go right back off by itself within the screen timeout. No big deal. My timeout is set to 2 minutes, so I'd estimate that might add a minute or so to the net charging time, worst case.
Can we consider this a thoroughly dead horse?

Tigrev said:
Well OK, then skip the last step. The display will go right back off by itself within the screen timeout. No big deal. My timeout is set to 2 minutes, so I'd estimate that might add a minute or so to the net charging time, worst case.
Can we consider this a thoroughly dead horse?
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No, we can't. The display powering off doesn't power off the tablet. It still runs, and hence still charges slower than it should be. With the tablet running (even with the display off), it charges significantly more slowly, as evidenced by the battery graph which gives a clear indication of charge rate.
And from my experience, it occasionally doesn't charge at *all* when running, even when using the factory charger and factory charging cable. (Not sure why, but it's happened a couple of times, and powering off starts it charging.) That glitch makes it even more important that it doesn't start up when plugged in to charge.

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No, we can't. The display powering off doesn't power off the tablet. It still runs, and hence still charges slower than it should be. With the tablet running (even with the display off), it charges significantly more slowly, as evidenced by the battery graph which gives a clear indication of charge rate.
And from my experience, it occasionally doesn't charge at *all* when running, even when using the factory charger and factory charging cable. (Not sure why, but it's happened a couple of times, and powering off starts it charging.) That glitch makes it even more important that it doesn't start up when plugged in to charge.
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All you did was ***** before you got your TF, now you have it and all you do is still *****. You are everything that's bad about the world.
Because people seem to have their panties in a bunch over this one I checked charging rate powered off vs turned on, and it's only 2% less per hour. That's an insignificantly small difference.
I said it before and I'll say it again, you guys will ***** about ANYTHING.
EDIT: The 2% was measured including the extra battery drain I get from starting up the tablet to check battery level every hour.

Dock wakes up with touchpad

Hello guys,
i noticed that after the 3.2 update the tablet will wake up by touching the touchpad, with the "MobileDock Battery saving mode" option on, but not by pressing the dock's keys.
I performed a factory reset yesterday but the issue seems to persist. i noticed that it wakes up also when the dock/tablet is opened.
I contacted asus UK tech support but they advised to do a factory reset...not of much help so far. I am going to try again later on but i was wondering if any of you has experienced the same. I am not sure this happened with 3.1, i am sure my unit didn't wake up by pressing the keys on 3.1 though.
I think it is related to this issue too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151788
Any ideas?

it's normal. If you wait 5 mins the tablet will go into deep sleep and the touchpad will not wake the device.

I to can wake my unit by swiping the trackpad, just left it about an hour or so.
I have a b8O dock and B5O tab
I'm running prime 1.7, dock power saving active
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I thaught that i had the same problem, but my tf101 only wakes up when it was charging. If it's disconneted from the power source, after 5 or 10 minutes you must use the power button on the pad to turn it on.
I also changed the wifi power save policy to 'disabled when screen is off', and it looks like my battery drain problem has gone.
(charged it this night, used it for 1,5 hours ,6 hours standby and still >80% left on the dock).

Come to think of it, i never tested it on batt. only. It was alway connected to the psu.
Will try it now on batt.
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Just tested without the psu connected.
Nothing will wake the unit except for the pwr button.
Also looks like there is no batt. draining problem here.
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I did try again and after 10-15 minutes form pressing the power button to enter sleep mode, the touchpad doesn't seem to wake up the tablet anymore. This is with the Eee Pad docked and running on battery, using stock HC 3.2
I obviously did not wait long enough when testing this yesterday
Thanks for you feedback anyway

Its always the power button that wakes up the thing for me, even on custom roms.

courghan said:
I did try again and after 10-15 minutes form pressing the power button to enter sleep mode, the touchpad doesn't seem to wake up the tablet anymore. This is with the Eee Pad docked and running on battery, using stock HC 3.2
I obviously did not wait long enough when testing this yesterday
Thanks for you feedback anyway
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That's Funny... I let mine un-plugged over night and then I opened the lid it woke up. Not a big deal to me, I actually prefer it that way. My battery drain was only like 2% after 7.5 hours, with wifi on.

Turned off by turn on!

A couple of weeks ago I came home from work and picked up the case my Samsung 10.1 tab was in. Curiously, it felt warm to the touch. When I took my tab out of the case, it was on! Now, I know I turned it off before I placed it in the case. How could it have turned on by itself? And aren't these things supposed to turn themselves off after awhile?
Today, I had my SGTab plugged in to charge for several hours. It was turned off. A couple of minutes ago I was sitting at my computer when I heard a familiar beep. I turned around to where I had my tab plugged in, and much to my surprise it had turned itself on. I noticed that the battery now read 100%. Usually when I unplug my tab it is at 98 or 99% charged. Is is supposed to beep and come on automatically when it reaches 100% charge?
Has anybody else experienced this?

You probably just have a tech-ghost that likes to mess with you. Just ignore it and it will eventually get bored and go elsewhere.
Seriously though, no. That is odd.

Mine turns itself on as well.
I mentioned this in another thread that I started, but mine seems to think USB items are being connected frequently, even when it is not plugged in, or when it is plugged in to power.
If I ever try to power it off, it defiantly powers back on seconds later.
Keep your tab handy and watch to see if the USB connected item shows up in your notifications or if the battery with a red X symbol shows up.

It will turn on to notify you that it is at 100% charge. Mine turns back off after a bit.
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cameraz said:
A couple of weeks ago I came home from work and picked up the case my Samsung 10.1 tab was in. Curiously, it felt warm to the touch. When I took my tab out of the case, it was on! Now, I know I turned it off before I placed it in the case. How could it have turned on by itself? And aren't these things supposed to turn themselves off after awhile?
Today, I had my SGTab plugged in to charge for several hours. It was turned off. A couple of minutes ago I was sitting at my computer when I heard a familiar beep. I turned around to where I had my tab plugged in, and much to my surprise it had turned itself on. I noticed that the battery now read 100%. Usually when I unplug my tab it is at 98 or 99% charged. Is is supposed to beep and come on automatically when it reaches 100% charge?
Has anybody else experienced this?
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Couldn't tell ya cuz I've never charged my tab completely while it was off, I usually just leave it in sleep mode.
...but Fill there looks like he knows what he's talkin about...listen to him
MMcCraryNJ said:
You probably just have a tech-ghost that likes to mess with you. Just ignore it and it will eventually get bored and go elsewhere.
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Honestly....this made me chuckle a titty bit. Thanks.

Tivo7 said:
Couldn't tell ya cuz I've never charged my tab completely while it was off, I usually just leave it in sleep mode.
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Sorry, I didn't mean it was completely turned off; it was in sleep mode. I never turn it "off."

It happens to mine, and I notice that it takes place when charger is plugged in, and power gets cut for some reason.
I read elsewhere that it's supposed to give a sound when it gets 100% full. Mine only vibrates, is that normal?

cameraz said:
Sorry, I didn't mean it was completely turned off; it was in sleep mode. I never turn it "off."
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That could be it, then.
Mine was doing something similar: plug in power connector, tab buzzes, press power button once to put tab to sleep, put down to charge....... come back next morning and tab screen is on.
This is what "fixed it for me": disable the "keep screen on when charging" in the developer options.
As already mentioned, the Tab will turn the screen on when it reaches 100% charge to tell you to remove the charger from the wall socket. If you have the Tab set to keep the screen on when charging, the screen will never turn off again at this point.
As I say, that fixed it for me, but as usual YMMV