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Need help with the following issues...

...I have been using the HD2 for a little over three months now. While I really enjoyed the phone and all its gizmos in the beginning, I am becoming more and more disappointed by its performance in everyday life:
SMS:
HTC can say what they want, there still is some kind of bug with the SMS texting. Replying to someone's message will miraculous highlight the last received message. You always have to select the texting area before you see what you are typing.
Twitter:
This is currently one of my biggest gripes. The built in twitter client is a major pain...it will repeatedly ignore my settings and download twitter messages whenever it wants and how many it wants. Sometimes I end up downloading some 200+ twitter messages at a time. During the downloading process, the entire phone will start to lag - to the point where I have to wait up to a minute before I can use the phone again. I really wished that there was a way to replace Peep with another twitter client, while maintining the SenseUI interface tab. Also, an option for "push"-twittering would be nice. The 5 minute refresh rate just doesn't cut it for me; not that I have gotten the phone to actually refresh twitter every 5 minutes. And as I think of it, the twitter alarm tone also goes off whenever it feels like it.
Online Updates:
The settings I have made for updating the Stocks, Twitter and Weather tabs all get ignored by the phone. For instance, I have set the weather tab to refresh every 3 hours... Just checked the phone - last refresh was over 23 hours ago. Same with twitter. Twitter is set to update every 5 minutes. Last update was about 2 hours ago. Not sure what's going on here!
Bluetooth Devices:
Even though I love SenseUI, getting to the Bluetooth device list is just hideous. You virtually have to click and swipe yourself through several screens, just to get to the settings. Why couldn't they just activate the Bluetooth icon on top of the screen to directly take you there.
Volume Settings:
What's with that weird "three-steps at a time" volume slider when pressing the volume sidekeys? Isn't there a more sensitive way to adjust the volume using the sidekeys? I do realize that I could fingerswipe the screen, but I really don't want to get the phone out of my pocket everytime I feel like adjusting the volume levels.
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to trash this phone! I just think that these are some fundamental problems on a 600€ phone that HTC should have worked out before release. Would love to hear some feedback from you guys!! Appreciate any help you can give.

bashulaojia said:
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to trash this phone! I just think that these are some fundamental problems on a 600€ phone that HTC should have worked out before release. Would love to hear some feedback from you guys!!
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Well actually they are fundamental problems Microsoft should have sorted out, Windows Mobile 6.5 is an absolutely ****e OS, and I think HTC did a bang up job modifying it for the HD2. What with all the cabs flying about here it doesn't take much to get your phone working well.
Although I will say, the SMS thing would be one of the few grips I have,

To be honest I think that HTC serious believe that what you call the SMS bug is a "helpful" design feature (I'm not kidding). It is a pain in the arse, along with vidually counting every yexy in the conversation.

Kalavere said:
Well actually they are fundamental problems Microsoft should have sorted out, Windows Mobile 6.5 is an absolutely ****e OS, and I think HTC did a bang up job modifying it for the HD2.
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Errr... every single issue he raised is with Sense. Not one single issue there is related to WM.

Plethora of HD2 Music player woes

Hi guys...
Regretfully I am close to giving up with the HD2 music player. Beaten! Long delays, failure to find any of my mp3s even after retagging... the list of bugs and annoyances is nearly endless, such promise in a phone, such incompetence in the software testing. My last effort was a rushed and irritated email to HTC. Pointless I know but its all I've got, I am now forced to use.... WMP
HD2 Music Player Issues.
I am sure you are sick of these but you are gonna have to read another, please route these to some dev or something, I have already wasted too many hours with this dreadfully realised piece of music software.
I am baffled by HTC. The music player on the HD2 is simply not tested sufficiently. I work in testing so perhaps I am slightly more critical but the list of issues is staggering.
HTC are seriously shooting themselves in the foot, and when I am (frequently) am asked whether I recommend the phone I have to say no, because of the MUSIC PLAYER.
1. Firstly I reported the most incredible 'Genre & brackets bug' on the HTC forums last year and received NO response from HTC. A quick recap, if an mp3 ID3 tag has a ( or a ) in the genre field the music updater stalls FOREVER, yes regardless of tag format etc, its just coded badly. plain and simple, it has 'coded in china and tested in india' written all over it! The updating icon continues forever using up your battery and not updating the rest of the disk. My question to the technical team here is, well why not just skip the file you cant read after some specific timeout, that is 2 extra lines of code and an hugely (but not satisfactory) better user experience.
2. If you have a largish (more than 20) items in a playlist there is a considerable and extremely irritating delay EVERYTIME you go to the now playing screen. Why. Why. Why, who tested this app, who signed it off, how in the hell is it acceptable to have to wait 30seconds to open the music app if you have 400 songs in a playlist, answer dont use large playlists, ok but that leads onto the NEXT huge flaw..
3. When you return to a list (any list), you are always back at the start.. so you just clicked on ZZ Top and you then think oh actually I want to listen to Willie nelson, you are right back at A in the artist list, and it then takes 15 seconds of scrolling to get back to W, why is there no ABCDEG.. index like EVERY OTHER MP3 player.
If it were not for the other dreadful bugs one would have to conclude HTC intentionally crippled this device, what other explanation could there be? Were HTC paid off by Apple?
4. Here is a new one for me, just today I added 500 new Mp3s, to my 16gb memory card, now totaling 1300. Opening the music player sent the CPU to 95% (all manilla) for the best part of 15mins during which time nothing really could be used on the device. When it finally dropped a bit I went in to music player, there are ZERO artists, ZERO albums, ZERO genres but almost all the tracks listed in 'All Songs'. I then allowed the animation to continue for 30 more mins with no change, nothing added. By the way I have rewritten all the id3 tags to various different formats with no affect. I have a feeling that it is stalling on the 1st mp3, what is it stalling on I do not know, is there a log file with errors in it? Can't find one. Again terrible coding, using too much processor, not handling errors, falling over if the format is not exactly as expected. Bad all round.
This is completely unacceptable for a $500 phone.
Just spend a day with and IPod/IPhone and a HD2, that's all your technical team need to do to see what sort of job they have done.
There are loads more but I cannot be bothered now.
It seems HTC have responded to one bug that luckily did not affect me (the stuttering), please can you forward this to the most senior person you know, it really is a joke and whoever does your software testing needs a long vacation and you need to stop outsourcing.
Disgruntled user.
Tom Deloford
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Rockbox for Android

Hey everyone!
I couldn't help but notice on the Rockbo homepage (rockbox.org), under unusable ports it has listed Google Android and in this thread: forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14177.30 the last post says that someone had actually gotten sound to work through Rockbox on a HTC Legend phone:
Hello guys,
I'm right now listening music with my newest music app on my phone:
Rockbox plays music on my HTC legend \o/
The first song was Edward Maya vs Alicia - Stereo Love.
I'm overly happy that I've gotten that far now. I'm looking forward to
finally bring gapless playback, dynamic playlists and an extensive
equalizer (and more) to Android! Although there's a lot of work still to do.
Best regards.
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This is rather exciting! I've used Rockbox before on an old iAudio X5 and it was a powerful alternate firmware. Anyways I just wanted to post this here just incase anyone else would be interested.

I found some more information digging around the interwebs. I found a blog from a Rockbox developer who talks about Rockbox as an application and he mentions this achievement and includes a link to the users git repositories for Rockbox on Android. You can read about it here: daniel.haxx.se/blog/2010/07/30/the-rockbox-app-part-ii/
Here's a quote from the blog:
While I’m told the current state is rough and there’s no installer or anything yet, I’m sure I share the view of lots of others that this is a great moment in the Rockbox history. A milestone. Thanks Thomas, I hope your work continues equally good and that we get an app to try out at the end of the summer or so.
Thomas’ git repo is here: h ttp://repo.or.cz/w/kugel-rb.git
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Also Rockbox as an application was accepted into Google's Summer of Code program (info here: rockbox.org/wiki/SummerOfCode2010#Rockbox_as_an_Application )

Yeah!!!!!!!! I d like to see rockbox on android, I used it on an ipod mini, and it was really great with a great sound quality

There are no prebuilt apk's yet but you can download the source code and build Rockbox for android.
It works rather well, I'm using it in favor of the stock built in media player on my Legend.

kugel. said:
It works rather well, I'm using it in favor of the stock built in media player on my Legend.
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Could you share the apk?

There's a link on the wiki page I created today:
xttp://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AndroidPort (remember to change the xttp to http).

Just out of curiosity, could someone post a screenshot ?

Pre-Compiled Links
Prebuilt 240x320: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-240x320.apk
Prebuilt 320x480: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox.apk
Prebuilt 480x800: http://www.alice-dsl.net/simonemartitz/rockbox/Rockbox-480x800.apk

Looks pretty promising and I know its not in any stage to be shown off but I couldn't even effectively navigate around. Hope they keep working on this.
Sent from my ADR6300

hazard666 said:
Looks pretty promising and I know its not in any stage to be shown off but I couldn't even effectively navigate around. Hope they keep working on this.
Sent from my ADR6300
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That's probably because the default touchscreen mode is the so called grid mode. In this you navigate with d-pad like controls (the screen is divided into 9 rectangles, top middle is up, down middle is down, center middle is select, etc). You can change it to the absolute point mode in the settings.

This is the best thing to happen to my phone since I bought it!
The only problem is that's it's a bit jumpy from time-to-time, especially if 'multi-tasking.
But generally I'm impressed already. True gapless playback at last! A volume control that doesn't move in HUGE increments (I.E. I can make it really really quite if I'm falling asleep listening to music)
Great stuff!

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The only problem is that's it's a bit jumpy from time-to-time, especially if 'multi-tasking.
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I assume you have an HTC phone running the official 2.1 ROM?
Those have a bug which causes music to drop out sometimes if the app is in the background/minimized.

Not working for me on Motorola Milestone. This is how it looks like:

Define "Not working". The screen shot looks ok, except the font is too small (the default font should be bigger indeed).
Try loading the cabbiev2 or selecting a bigger font. And also remember what I said about the grid mode on the previous page.

The pre-built APKs are not working for me either. I'm trying this on a Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S) running stock rom. All it shows is the rockbox splash screen and doesn't go from there.

Hi there!!
Neither works on milestone (Personal Argentina's 2.1u1 official rom).
It loads, I can navigate (and configurate the screen) but it won't actually play any file...
BTW, the screen font size and graphics from the original skin has been an issue since I firts got it for my old (from a couple of weeks now) rokr e2...

Impressive!
Installed the 480x800 build on my Milestone (Canada Telus SHOLS_U2_03.11.0) and started experimenting.
Have a few questions:
1. Noted after editing config.cfg (in order to add a WPS file) that my paths were changed from /sdcard/rockbox/ to /data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/.
Is it implicit that /data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/ is the way to point to sdcard?
2. My WPS contains %pc (Current time in track) and %pt (Total track time); the latter is right but the former is always 0 (%px shows 0 too).
3. Maybe silly: I'm able to use the grid to navigate but did not figure out how to exit Rockbox. How to exit?

pstrg said:
Impressive!
Installed the 480x800 build on my Milestone (Canada Telus SHOLS_U2_03.11.0) and started experimenting.
Have a few questions:
1. Noted after editing config.cfg (in order to add a WPS file) that my paths were changed from /sdcard/rockbox/ to /data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/.
Is it implicit that /data/data/org.rockbox/app_rockbox/ is the way to point to sdcard?
2. My WPS contains %pc (Current time in track) and %pt (Total track time); the latter is right but the former is always 0 (%px shows 0 too).
3. Maybe silly: I'm able to use the grid to navigate but did not figure out how to exit Rockbox. How to exit?
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1) Yes. Rockbox removes the path and looks on the sdcard first so don't worry. In fact, any path will work. In order to remember it over restarts the files the setting point to need to be in /sdcard/rockbox though.
2) Don't know what's wrong there. I can't imagine it's an Android specific issue though.
3) There's also the absolute point mode, you just need to enable it (we didn't get around making it default yet). You don't *exit* Rockbox, you just stop/pause music (stopping will be slightly better for battery life) and leave the app (as with any other app like the built-in media player).

I have installed Rockbox on a HTC Tattoo. Not the most powerful phone out there, I know.
I am also very impressed. I had given up using my phone as a music player. I don't think that any of the apps on the Market are very good. None support gapless or EQ etc., and the format support is also very limited. But now there is hope.
I had to figure out how to use it first, and I found out how in the Rockbox forums. It seems like the UI is working very fine. The only thing is that they don't support the hardware buttons yet.
The music also plays back. But there is one (serious) problem: the playback stutters once in a while. It may be the same problem as reported above with HTC phones. So it is not quite usable yet. But they are definately on the way. These are early days, and the app isn't even downloadable from their web-pages yet, so I didn't excpect this much.

Update.
Fussing around with settings, noted (just once) that %pc (Current rack time) was working as it should; however, it subsequently displayed as 0 (as before) even though I modified nothing.
Another point: it seems that settings from tagnavi_custom.config aren't working.
On some occasions music did not play at all; display sometimes reverted to the very tiny initial default and it was not possible to select a font from the menu, among other menu navigation problems.
Despite those gripes, I noted no jumps while playing; in this respect, it's better than either andLess and AMPlayer, which I've been trying to play FLAC files.
Will stay attuned; am very glad that Rockbox as an app is being ported to Android and is already useable.

Froyo + Epic = Amazing Phone

Okay, I'm sure a bunch of people have been having problems with their froyo upgrades... But I have had nothing short of an amazing day with my first 24 hours of Froyo on the Epic. So I am making this thread so we can highlight the POSITIVE changes that froyo has brought us Epic owners.
I have discovered a few cool things that Froyo brings, and I am sure there are more. Let's get a list compiled of all the positives:
What I have discovered so far:
1) Battery life ( see attached photo) - it is so much better than 2.1. I can't believe it's the same phone, battery!
2) The screen rotates left or right now into landscape mode. I was always astonished on 2.1 that it didn't do that.
3) Apps 2 SD. Long talked about, but awesome when it's finally here. I have a bunch of apps and I have 390Mb open on my phone. My wife has 412Mb open on her Epic. #4 is helped by this
4) The phone runs smoother. Of course Linpack scores of 13.92 prove it, but I haven't had any screen lag or lag when opening the app drawer or in typical use the way my Epic got laggy on 2.1 before. Apps 2 SD definitely helps clear up phone memory for every day use.
5) Colorized menus. It may seem trivial, but now I realize just how drab the menus were previously. The icons 'pop' with the color added to them.
6) Separate Sound and Display options in the settings menu.
7) Flash. 'nuf said on that one! Huge improvement over 2.1.
8) Improved Gmail and Youtube.
*the rest will be either new finds by me, or contributions w/ credit.
9) Pinch whatever home screen you are on to reveal all home screens. (thanks styckx)
10) I just discovered that we finally have copy/paste options of text that WE choose! When you are in a field where you have been typing and you click in that field, you get a blue slider button. You can slide that button to whatever starting point you want in your text, and then you can choose to edit and you can highlight, copy, paste, etc only the portions of text you want, not just a copy all option like before! This is a huge improvement over 2.1. Text select was the only thing I missed from my Blackberry, and now we have that too. Not in all situations, but at least it makes editing your current text so much easier.
11) I read it somewhere else before, but just verified it works. If you swipe to the right on a contact in your messages list, it automatically calls them. If you swipe to the left, it automatically starts you up for a text reply. Genius!
12) Robust stock audio player with tons more features. (thanks again styckx)
Okay, I know I am missing things that even I have already discovered and don't remember. 2.2 seems a lot more than a .x update. It's not just 1 or 2 minor tweaks like we have seen previously. Please post anything you have noticed about Froyo that adds to the Epic experience!
* I know there are some things about it people don't like. I am unable to swipe on the notification bar to increase/decrease brightness. I really enjoyed that feature. Feel free to post what you don't like about Froyo also. But I would like to concentrate on tips, tricks, improvements, etc. that Froyo has brought us!

Pinch your home screen

As great as froyo is, there are a lot of probs with it.
Random services keep appearing.
Samsung widgets disappear occasionally
Wifi not working at times (not sure if that's my connection)
Idk, I'm just curious, what measures are you taking on battery life?
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About all the bad I've noticed with the latest DK28 build is the auto-rotate is REALLY slow, and it doesn't seem to auto-rotate when on the main screen (only seems to rotate when I am in the "settings" menu). I had some odd issues with DK17 where it didn't like to delete messages from my Activesync accoutn that appears to be fixed in DK28.

styckx said:
Pinch your home screen
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that's so great! adding to OP
acer1096xxx said:
As great as froyo is, there are a lot of probs with it.
Wifi not working at times (not sure if that's my connection)
Idk, I'm just curious, what measures are you taking on battery life?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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I have been on wi-fi since last night. Not a single issue for me regarding that. Yet. So it may be your wi-fi.
As far as battery goes, I am straight stock everything, no battery juice defender sipper type apps or anything. Just rooted, with no Sprint apps. Nothing special.
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About all the bad I've noticed with the latest DK28 build is the auto-rotate is REALLY slow, and it doesn't seem to auto-rotate when on the main screen (only seems to rotate when I am in the "settings" menu). I had some odd issues with DK17 where it didn't like to delete messages from my Activesync accoutn that appears to be fixed in DK28.
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I am getting the auto-rotate to work both ways on the home screens, and it takes maybe .2 seconds to do it. Maybe try and wipe and re-flash? Just a suggestion.

I am getting lag at random times. Sometimes the phone will just freeze for like 30 seconds as launcherpro slowly crashes. Rotation is slow, 5 seconds i mean come on. Wifi has been weirdish, might have fixed itself. So far, no where NEAR as smooth as stock DI18. Eclair on the epic was AMAZINGLY smooth and polished.
I like the new features, but there is no way that DK28 is ready for primetime. They need to do a lot of bug fixing on this to make it anywhere near as smooth as other phones running 2.2 that I have seen.
Also, I installed it correctly and several different ways, so its not a bad flash. I am currently running Stock DK28 with root and clockworkmod that was ODIN flashed from stock DI18 which I ODIN flashed. GPS is working.

One thing I really like a lot is the new Audio player. EQ, Visualizer, audio "effects", much better navigating of albums and artists.
I mean, I own PowerAmp which is THE BEST audio player period, but the new default audio player is leaps and bounds better than the old one and is fantastic for default (free).

styckx said:
One thing I really like a lot is the new Audio player. EQ, Visualizer, audio "effects", much better navigating of albums and artists.
I mean, I own PowerAmp which is THE BEST audio player period, but the new default audio player is leaps and bounds better than the old one and is fantastic for default (free).
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Agreed. The features are all here. Now it just needs to be polished and smoothed out like the original Eclair builds were.

Bluetooth dialing is busted. Media hub wants to upgrade, but there is no upgrade. On the plus, my gps works now. I don't care what anyone says. This is a beta for hardware level.4 phone to test. I think we will see a newer release pushed to our phones.

I'm just going to keep it. It's stable and usable enough until the real (and hopefully more refined and stable) release is sent.
I'm sick of flashing and restocking my phone. I'm thinking a upgrade from DK28 to the real release won't require the dreaded WIPE WIPE WIPE and a rube goldberg puzzle to get the GPS to work.
If for some stupid, company killing reason DK28 as it stands now really is going to be the official release, I will go back to 2.1 and stay there. We'll see.

fczeuner said:
Media hub wants to upgrade, but there is no upgrade.
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Flash this zip in Clockwork to get the updated Media Hub.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9266549&postcount=10

Muckrak3r said:
* I know there are some things about it people don't like. I am unable to swipe on the notification bar to increase/decrease brightness. I really enjoyed that feature. Feel free to post what you don't like about Froyo also. But I would like to concentrate on tips, tricks, improvements, etc. that Froyo has brought us!
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Hey OP you might want to try that again because I'm on froyo and can still increase/decrease the brightness using the notification slide-bar technique. The bar may hide but if you move your finger left or right even when its already gone you should see the brightness change.

Mine doesn't change orientation either unless I'm in a program. If I'm in a program, it's instant pretty much..on the homescreen I've waited and the only way I can get it to change is by flipping open my keyboard.

All of this is overshadowed by my sd not working after the update there by rendering most apps useless
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Seems to be working good for me so far. The only thing annoying thus far is the lag in bringing it from sleep with the power button. There's a second or 2 delay before the screen comes on after you hit power. In 2.1 it was nearly instantaneous.

Im not getting it to rotate to the right,
Running the loaded Syndicate ROM

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Hey OP you might want to try that again because I'm on froyo and can still increase/decrease the brightness using the notification slide-bar technique. The bar may hide but if you move your finger left or right even when its already gone you should see the brightness change.
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mikeschevelle said:
Im not getting it to rotate to the right,
Running the loaded Syndicate ROM
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There is no Syndicate rom for DK28.

Thanks for the Post! Found some things I wasn't aware of.
I'm on this Stock Froyo Rom(DK17) and everything I've tried is working great. Notification Bar swipe for brightness works as well as Media Hub.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853209

Although many great reports.. and some not so..
This is obviously NOT the final release. lets remember that..
It is so close now and will be great. (or better at least)
I myself tested on 3 diff phones, found recurring and non- recurring defects which point to the fact that this particular release in its entirety wont be pushed OTA to the masses.. it cant. wont handle the endless differences out in the wild..
And to be expected.. Exactly the reason why upgrades take time.

Not loving this phone

I came from a HTC Tilt and a HTC Tilt 2. This phone is just starting to get on my nerves and I just purchased it yesterday. Here are my observations so far.
The screen is really nice.
Transferring contacts and calendar events from Outlook on my computer to the phone shouldn't have been an ordeal, but it was totally frustrating chore. Having to go through Windows Live and use a hotmail(?!!!!) account is just unbelievable. I absolutely miss the active-sync and just moving files from here to there at a whim. As it was I had to export my contacts and import them into Live. For the calendar...well, I'm just creating them manually. That's when I found the bug that you can't have a recurring event every other week or every third week unless you go to the hotmail calendar and edit it manually there.
Using Zune software to move music and video is okay, I guess. Just kind of weird considering dragging and dropping would have been easier.
The music part has no equalizer, which would be really, really handy.
I thought I'd be okay with no Flash or Silverlight, but I'm not.
Not having Bing Maps that has voice navigation is really too bad. I liked it on the Tilt 2. I also miss the direct button for movies.
This phone really needs a dedicated lock button so when watching a movie or listening to music I don't accidentally hit something that causes everything to mess up.
The apps are much more expensive than what is available for other phones. That's really too bad.
Excel doesn't have a file/open option so I can't find or open files I assume were sync'd over by Live (most likely they weren't). MS's response to that? Email it to yourself. Stupid.
No cut and paste, but I knew that going in. No special ring tones, again, I didn't really care about that.
The menus are okay though. Not enough customizations.
Overall, not a really happy experience so far, especially since this OS was supposed to be made for the average person. I think I know a little more than the average person since I modified my Tilt and Tilt 2's registries, but this phone was kicking my butt when it came to syncing. Sad.

Much of what you say is true, but I love my Focus! It will take some time before we see the features of 6.5 make there way to WP7. I guess I like the ease and responsiveness of the WP7. It's definitely the future.
If this isn't for you, I'd wait until the end of this year. Microsoft is releasing a major update that will add a lot of new features and functionality that it's supposed to be like Windows Phone 7.5 (unofficially). Hopefully, a lot of what you point out will be fixed by then.

Thanks. I hope that's true. I'm going to stick it out. I absolutely do like the music feature where some mp3's get album art then suddenly a background. Very cool. I'm assuming transferring through Zune had a lot to do with that.