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Just sold my Acer A500 32gb and bought an Acer TF with 16gb and the kb dock (paying $100 extra in the process). Reasons:
- SCREEN SCREEN SCREEN, I mean wtf, the color depth and fidelity were terrible. Pale, washed out... and while I can cope with that, I couldn't stand looking at the pixel granulation, individual pixels were easy to notice, they looked big and arranged in small squares. I simply wasn't able to tolerate that.
- Battery life..., with what I consider average use I got like 5hours tops even less.
Rest was fine with the tablet, I didn't have problems with the extra weight compared to other tables in the market.
The Asus's offering is way better all things taken into account.
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Samsung's upcoming 7.7" and 5.3" though with 1280x800 and Amoled will take the cake once they become available.
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Sounds like a defective tab.... Mine does none of that, has a great screen and amazing battery life.
My Iconia is awesome as well very gorgeous all around. Just like me
Just out of curiosity, what rom were you using, Stock 3.01, Stock 3.1, Stock 3.2 or a Custom? (which custom if so)
I see what you mean about the pixelation, though mine seems a tolerable quality, what really gets me is how you can easily see the capacitive layers of the screen.
All i had before my iconia was a htc desire and the amoled screen on that is quite different to the iconia. the desire screen is obviously nicer im still very happy with my iconia .
I used to use the latest stock OTA update, don't remember was it 3.2 or 3.1.
The tab wasn't defective, one reason might be that there are different batches of lcd panels used but, the pixels on mine were arranged in such a manner that I could see them...check Engadget's screenshots as well, you can notice them there too. Color fidelity, colors, saturation, everything was worse than my first LCD panels from years ago.
I loved the camera, the build, the feel of the tablet, but saving $ on the screen is just ridiculous move by Acer.
*yawn*
Thanks for sharing. Bye.
no need to be rude. devices dont suit everyone equally. they settled with a transformer, its not like they changed to an ipad, that alone is enough reason to not be rude, dont u agree
I'm not judging anyone.
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I'm not judging either, but why would someone come to a forum that is all about a product and then say "I sold mine.. Blah , Blah, and sport a thumbs down symbol.
If you didn't like it, why mention it?
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I'm not judging either, but why would someone come to a forum that is all about a product and then say "I sold mine.. Blah , Blah, and sport a thumbs down symbol.
If you didn't like it, why mention it?
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maybe its to let others who are looking at purchasing a tab to be aware that they display may not be satisfactory
or maybe
theyre trolling
who cares?
erica_renee said:
My Iconia is awesome as well very gorgeous all around. Just like me
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I agree the tab is awsome
Blagoja D. said:
Just sold my Acer A500 32gb and bought an Acer TF with 16gb and the kb dock (paying $100 extra in the process). Reasons:
- SCREEN SCREEN SCREEN, I mean wtf, the color depth and fidelity were terrible. Pale, washed out... and while I can cope with that, I couldn't stand looking at the pixel granulation, individual pixels were easy to notice, they looked big and arranged in small squares. I simply wasn't able to tolerate that.
- Battery life..., with what I consider average use I got like 5hours tops even less.
Rest was fine with the tablet, I didn't have problems with the extra weight compared to other tables in the market.
The Asus's offering is way better all things taken into account.
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Samsung's upcoming 7.7" and 5.3" though with 1280x800 and Amoled will take the cake once they become available.
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The battery life seems a bit strange... I get heaps of life out of mine. At least you have a product that works for you now though The TF should serve you well. I was tempted by it, but for me I think the Acer is the better fit, until kal-el tablets start arriving on the scene
Honestly, why even bother posting this?
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Sounds like a defective tab.... Mine does none of that, has a great screen and amazing battery life.
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Me too. Sounds like someone didn't trouble shoot some obvious techniques to increase performance and functionality
Yes, OP is right.
The display should be better. Compared to my Desire HD, the screen looks really pale and the colors aren't that crisp. But The sharpness is fine and you don't notice the digitizer when the screen is on.
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The display should be better. Compared to my Desire HD, the screen looks really pale and the colors aren't that crisp. But The sharpness is fine and you don't notice the digitizer when the screen is on.
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Isn't the Desire HD sporting an AMOLED screen? That's not really a fair comparison.
I don't get it.
Apple Ipad 2 screen resolution: 1024x768
Acer Iconia a500 screen resolution: 1280x800
Many of my friends use the Apple IPad - they all notice that my a500's screen looks a *lot* better when displaying hd video.
Either obvious troll is obvious, or OP does not realize higher resolution = smaller pixels = better image quality.
Or perhaps I am missing something here?
OP's battery life
I have my Iconia running overclocked (1500MhZ vs 1000MhZ stock). Woke up for work at 2:45am today with a full battery, ran system a full hour for music while i got ready for work, battery down to 96%. Hour drive time to work, a500 playing a couple podcasts i wanted to catch up on. Battery at 89% when i arrive at work.
Go on break at 9am, use system at full brightness while on break for a hour. Battery at 80% after this.
Leave work at noon (streaming podcast all the way home. Hit traffic. 2 hours drive time - battery at 70% when i get home (Finally!))
Arrived home at 2 pm - been using my tab for 2 hours solid, screen at max brightness- battery at 66%.
Total: 3 hours heavy use with max brightness set and wifi up. 4 hours use with screen off playing music or podcasts.
If you are only getting 5 hours use either:
A) You have some app installed that is using some insane battery
Or
B) You have a defective unit.
At the end of this post, max brightness set - I am holding a 64% charge. And remember, i am overclocked and at a higher voltage then stock.
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Isn't the Desire HD sporting an AMOLED screen? That's not really a fair comparison.
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Nope, it has a normal LCD panel.
Sent out of my Free-Candy-Van. Your kids are safe in there. Trust me.
I have both. Screen is good enough better then average. I use the Acer most in the field because of the USB ports go access files and charge my p phone. Once im home i hook it up to my TV with 2.4 ghz mouse and keyboard surf the web and stream videos. SICK. The t transformer is for the wife bcuz its light weight. Lol
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I have the Acer Iconia on a test run..........I am somewhat peeved by the screen being just a tad bit washed out. I mean, compared to Galaxy Tab or even Asus EEPad ( I also have them for testing !!!). But Iconia feels more solid, and its very responsive - a big plus !! So much faster than the Galaxy Tab.
Is there any custom fix for the screen.........like a kernel fix or something that improves gamma or something like that....
Thanks !
You can't compare A500's color with Transformer or Galaxy Tab 10.1, the Transformer is IPS screen while the Galaxy Tab is AMOLED screen, both are completely different technology from the A500... and as you found out, both of these technologies do offer nicer color than A500's TN technology.
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You can't compare A500's color with Transformer or Galaxy Tab 10.1, the Transformer is IPS screen while the Galaxy Tab is AMOLED screen, both are completely different technology from the A500... and as you found out, both of these technologies do offer nicer color than A500's TN technology.
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Uh.. just because they're different technologies doesn't mean they can't be compared. In fact, it allows them to be compared.
Comparatively, the a500's screen is pretty weak. I think a simple saturation boost would help it quite a bit.
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Uh.. just because they're different technologies doesn't mean they can't be compared. In fact, it allows them to be compared.
Comparatively, the a500's screen is pretty weak. I think a simple saturation boost would help it quite a bit.
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what I meant is IPS and AMOLED is known to produce richer colors than TN screen, that is a fact - so don't waste time to verify the facts, I haven't seen any TN screens that can beat IPS/AMOLED, no matter how you tweak it.
Nobody said it had to beat it, stop getting so defensive. We just want it to be better.
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Nobody said it had to beat it, stop getting so defensive. We just want it to be better.
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I ain't defensive, it isn't my thread anyway.... I'm just saying you can't get it better if it's in the hardware, I just want to save your time looking into something impossible.
just a little input here. once chainfire 3d fully supports honeycomb/ics you may be able to write a plugin that adjusts the color saturation. i personally am waiting to adjust the color temperature as it is a bit cold.
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just a little input here. once chainfire 3d fully supports honeycomb/ics you may be able to write a plugin that adjusts the color saturation. i personally am waiting to adjust the color temperature as it is a bit cold.
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That would be great! Mine has a blue color cast as well, it'll be nice to get rid of that. Out of curiosity, why has chainfire 3d got anything to do with this? I don't recall chainfire 3d having any color adjustments?
Hate to burst bubbles, but the Galaxy Tab 10 does not at all have an OLED screen... it's an LCD... they have a 7 inch tablet coming out with Super AMOLED, but Samsung isn't even producing 10" OLED screens yet. It's just a much brighter, more colorful screen, but the colors almost seem unnaturally bright. I kinda like the more natural tones on my A500's screen.
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That would be great! Mine has a blue color cast as well, it'll be nice to get rid of that. Out of curiosity, why has chainfire 3d got anything to do with this? I don't recall chainfire 3d having any color adjustments?
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cf3d has a day and night setting. the night setting allows you to adjust your color settings. if you lower blue you then bring up the color temperature
this is the only non cm7 way i know of to adjust your color settings cross rom
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cf3d has a day and night setting. the night setting allows you to adjust your color settings. if you lower blue you then bring up the color temperature
this is the only non cm7 way i know of to adjust your color settings cross rom
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ic, I haven't got the pro version of chainfire 3d, I think this setting is only available on pro version.
Fresh owner of a TF300T coming from an Ipad, since both are IPS Panels im kind of disappointed with the Transformers.
The colours are pretty much washed out and the white is dominating the contrast, its quite a difference to the Ipad.
Can anybody confirm that this is by design, or is it just my personal perception?! Or maybe I've got a faulty device?
I don't notice this issue my angry birds looks as good as the ipad or iPhone. I have a fairly subdued color scheme otherwise though.
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I'll need some more time with the device to be able to say something thoughtful about it, though perhaps I can hook up a colorimeter and give you a scientific measurement..
I have noticed a "washed out" effect on mine as well, but only in two circumstances:
1) When setting the tab to "Power Saving" mode
2) When using Splashtop, either the built-in version or THD
I own both a TF300 and a TF101 and the display on the TF300 does appear a little washed out compared to my TF101.
Totally agree, display quality seems below tf101 and way below the new ipad. highly noticeable. While is not terrible, it's pretty disappointing specially coming from a $400 device($550 total spent w/ dock plus taxes), same as tf101 when was released. tf101 blows away the tf300t regarding quality construction, including the "IPS" screen.
add those cons to the tf300t browser issues, some game compatibility issues with tegra 3 SoC, unexpected app and games shutdowns, occasional flickering on some games and what you got?
Exactly ...the display color on mine is very washed out as well...You Tube Videos and CNN Videos which I just tried today are dismal...Im very dissapointed...I wanted to compare to the 201...but none in the Best Buy...or anywhere else for that matter...Im goin back to compare to other tablets to see the difference...Might go for the 201...I can do an exchange in 30 days...Unless there is a way to adjust these colors...I luv basically everything else about it...Only had it for two days...So we'll see...
Some of the Primes also have washed out colors, especially if you get a warm tone one. The last one I had was cool tone and had excellent colors.
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Some of the Primes also have washed out colors, especially if you get a warm tone one. The last one I had was cool tone and had excellent colors.
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Oh...so theres cool tone ones...Somthin I didn't know ...Back to the BB and have them open a few to see the difference...I definitley want the 300...just not one with colors that suck...Thats why I wanted to compare it to a 201...Saw the videos on You Tube...with side by side comparison ...But you can't really tell much when watchin it on a PC...
What do you guys mean by washed out colours? Is it very noticeable? Thanks
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What do you guys mean by washed out colours? Is it very noticeable? Thanks
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Yep very noticeable...Like I said my CNN and You Tube Videos...Are blurred and washed out...
I didn't catch this in the Store...Picked it up Monday ...started playin around with it yesterday and today...Never had a Tablet before...Just Smartphones and of course Laptops and PC's...But the colors on my Samsung Epic 4g Touch pop...That screen is amazin...So far very let down with this screen...as far as Color Display...
Takin it back on the weekend and have them show me a few more to see if this is just a bad one or not...I don't want the Ipad or Acer...But I watched Smackdowns on YT between the 300,201 and the Acer 500 and there wasn't a real bad complaint from anyone about the color on the 300 just the brightness...Im satisfied with the brightness on this one but color ...Forgetabout it...
Im hopin its a bad one...the 700 won't be out to June...Didn't really want to wait...This looked like a good deal...Ill just have to wait and see what happens on the weekend...Their (BB) return policy is great
This thread and other comments about the TF300's display piqued my curiosity, so I stopped in at Best Buy to check it out. This BB had a TF300 and a TF101 side by side, so it was easy to do a comparison to the 101, which I already own and am familiar with.
I set the brightness to max on both tablets and loaded the same websites on each, showing a mix of text and color graphics. The display on the 101 looked exactly as I would expect. The difference was that the 101 was notably brighter than the 300, and probably for that same reason the white background to the text was whiter and the colors a bit more pronounced. I'm not sure how much of an issue that would be if I were looking only at the TF300, since it's still a nice screen, but seeing them side by side I would personally prefer the screen on the 101.
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What do you guys mean by washed out colours? Is it very noticeable? Thanks
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Reds aren't really red, kind of washed out orangey red, blues are pale. It's especially noticable with Asus tree wallpaper, the clouds kind of blend into the sky. It's almost like water colors but not quite that bad.
The 300 i'm on now has very nice colors, almost perfect to real life, took some pictures and held my 300 next to the object and it was pretty close to what I saw in real life.
My panel is also cool in color tone, so all the ones I've seen with warm screens are kind of washed out, the ones with the cool tone panels have better color IMO.
All seems good on my end...
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Thanx for the replies...Went back to BB yesterday...Finally got to see the 201 in the flesh...when compared to the 300 that was next to it, It blew it away for pic quality and video quality...I definitley saw the difference...I like the 300 don't get me wrong...But my 300 had a problem with display in my opinion...Now the 300 I saw there looked better than mine but not better than the 201...Just my opinion...So I returned mine forked over the $127 more countin tax...and Im a Happy Camper...
I guess I got to go over to the 201 Forums...It was a nice visit here although it was short...
Tonite Installin Root Custom Rom and Overclockin..........
Oh Yeah..............................
Hi!
im going to get the N10 in the next week and the first thing i will do because im a color junkie is a calibration test so se how close/far it is from
reference.
i have been into hardware calibration for displays for some years so i see myself as a pro.
i have X-Rite Display 3 Colorimeter and Chroma Pure calibration program.
http://www.chromapure.com/
the test patterns i use is from AVSHD709
http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
i have already calibrated my LG Infinia LED TV to reference quality,so if only the right (ISF/CMS) settings is there i can calibrate any display to near reference quality.
but its all about the settings how much you can change.
so the question is:
is there a App that i can change the RGB values and saturation/hue also gamma settings?
or do i need to get a custom rom?
i know some custom roms for the SG2 has some screen/gamma adjustments in EX tweaks.
if its not i will still post the results from the calibration so you can check it out to see how good/bad calibrated the Nexus 10 is
Edit: i just found one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745248
but i need this for the N10
Theres an app in the play store called Screen Adjuster that allows to change RGB, contrast, brightness but requires root. Been wanting to try it but I cant root my tablet as my pc wont recognize my tablet in fastboot.
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aznmode said:
Theres an app in the play store called Screen Adjuster that allows to change RGB, contrast, brightness but requires root. Been wanting to try it but I cant root my tablet as my pc wont recognize my tablet in fastboot.
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Just tried it out and it seemed to slow down the tablet.
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Just tried it out and it seemed to slow down the tablet.
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Try not to use contrast if you don't need it. That's what's slowed my galaxy s3 down
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Apps on the market only apply a filter on top of the screen. You're going to want a kernel with proper color calibration support to prevent performance loss.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6472/ipad-4-late-2012-review/2
Here's anandtech's review of tablet displays.
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Apps on the market only apply a filter on top of the screen. You're going to want a kernel with proper color calibration support to prevent performance loss.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6472/ipad-4-late-2012-review/2
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thanks for the link
interesting
damn the Nexus 10 is WAY off in the Gamut Chart!
how the hell can they release a screen thats is so off?
surley needs some calibration there
fix a kernel with RGB adjustments and i will fix a calibration that is better than on the iPad4.
after that you can just copy the settings and BOOM you have a reference display.
(that is if the screens dont differ to much)
i have the tools and the Knowlegde to calibrate displays but zippo knowlegde in hacking kernels
so Kernel Experts
MAKE IT HAPPEND!
Edit: first thing you will start with is the grayscale
when the grayscale is right (whites is white and not blue) then automatic you have your 6500k color temp (6500kelvin is messured from daylight in california if someone wants to know)
Also the Gamut is adjusted in position.
so its easy
with a correct grayscale everything (almost) else becomes right on spot.
one setting that they dont test there is Gamma
gamma at 2.2 is important if you want to see all details in darker parts of movies or photos.
gamma is adjusted with all three sliders Red/Green/Blue locked
So what i need is RGB adjustments and Saturation/HUE adjustments if its possible
comon hackers
we must beat the iPad!
If you want to have ICC support in kernel you've to ask a kernel dev. But I don't think that someone will implement this feature. Because the majority of users doesn't know or care about correct colors.
As the test results of your linked page show the N10 reaches a "good" neutral in white, gray and black. But the contrast is very low and by calibrating and profiling it you'll reduce it more. You've to calibrate D65 at 120 - 140 cd and after this to write a correction profile especially for blue and violet tones.
Apple does such things because their customers want to have and need good colors. But I don't see a market for android users. Photoshop touch is crap and there is no other "real" graphics suite / app. Given gamut is okay for daily use, e.g. viewing movies and surfing around the web.
So, don't be disappointed if your wish to cailbrate and profile the N10 won't be possible at all. An google seems not to have plans for ICC support in android, see https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-developers/Ifnsdbkqxqo
The only thing that really seems off is that it has very washed out purples. Its fine other than that. It strange as it can display blue and red just fine.
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If you want to have ICC support in kernel you've to ask a kernel dev. But I don't think that someone will implement this feature. Because the majority of users doesn't know or care about correct colors.[/url]
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Fortunately a lot of devs seems to think different seeing the amount of stuff they've coded that average Joe doesn't know or care about.
I for one would love to see the OP succeed as i see nothing wrong with getting better colour accuracy on my N10.
I personally really hope that a color calibration app/kernel becomes available.....devs PLEASE make it happen!! I like the punchy (albeit 'ficticious') colors of the amoLED display on my Galaxy Note....Please devs, give us the option to control/enhance the color of the Nexus 10's screen!
Another shout for some calibration tools on the nexus 10. All my main displays are calibrated & it's quite a shock to pick up my nexus 10 & the see the washed out colours
Indeed, the guy who mentioned the fact that the average Joe doesn't care about color reproduction is forgetting the fact that not a single one of us here is an average consumer, I also own an iPad 3 and I really loathe the washed out look on our display, the iPad looks very similar to the calibration I have on my Sony TV while the nexus looks almost like a color less gray when its put beside them, they all look like crap when you put them besides my SGS 2 though, all I really need to be completely happy with my Nexus would be a way to calibrate our screens, I have already pretty much given the iPad to my little sister but I hate to admit that the colors there look much much better than on the Nexus.
And by loathe I mean that I completely hate and despise it, such a great display ruined by the damn color calibration, the option should be built into Android for ****s sake.
PLEASE devs make it happen, color calibration seems to be an issue shared between all of the recent Nexus devices, for example, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one on the LG Optimus G (Or so I've read)
It's a shame Google are apathetic on this issue. Users that want do photo work are forced to go to Apple. Small OT aside: It's the same deal with audio creation apps/interfaces, Google doesn't care. I'd rather set my sites on Ubuntu.
Another vote for getting some kind of good calibration tool for the N10. I can put up with a lot, but the black levels are killing me. I would even put up with some loss of detail if I could get better black levels.
So... Guys, how can we contact Google to ask them to fix this themselves or do something so we can fix it ourselves?
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So... Guys, how can we contact Google to ask them to fix this themselves or do something so we can fix it ourselves?
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i will search tomorrow
but isnt this a problem for samsung?
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i will search tomorrow
but isnt this a problem for samsung?
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Nah, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one in the Optimus G and the screen on the 7 is kind of washed out from what I've read, and from past experience I've seen that Samsung tends to calibrate their screens pretty nice, (albeit a bit saturated) on factory settings across all devices.
Hope someone can sort out the black levels, watching movies the blacks look grey specially with Dark Knight! Tried all sorts of things but nowt helping!
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Nah, the screen on the Nexus 4 doesn't look as good as the one in the Optimus G and the screen on the 7 is kind of washed out from what I've read, and from past experience I've seen that Samsung tends to calibrate their screens pretty nice, (albeit a bit saturated) on factory settings across all devices.
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It's a shame for Google not calibrating any of their screens. Nexus 4 has those ugly washed colors, same with the nexus 10. And black levels, despite as many synthetic tests you will post (anandtech etc) are quite bad.
I'm so sure this is software... and 0 upgrades from Google. Its ok they will push next version of android as soon as avaliable, but nothing else, no OTAs for bug fixing. Any other brand would have already pushed several upgrades to new devices, bugs appear and samsung, htc etc gives you solutions (not always, but...)
Excuse my ignorance, but how great of a screen is the N7 supposed to be in comparison to some of the higher end smartphones out there in terms of color reproduction and saturation?
I have the HTC One, and side by side comparisons of the same image makes the N7 look washed out and bland.
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Excuse my ignorance, but how great of a screen is the N7 supposed to be in comparison to some of the higher end smartphones out there in terms of color reproduction and saturation?
I have the HTC One, and side by side comparisons of the same image makes the N7 look washed out and bland.
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That remains to be seen until LaptopMag or Displaymate or someone with the tools can accurately measure it, but reviews so far point out that both brightness and colors are very good on the device.
Be cool if ISF calibration could be implemented into tablets & phones.
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Be cool if ISF calibration could be implemented into tablets & phones.
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Didnt the N4 have some color correction tuneable built into the kernel? Since the N7 mk2 is on a similar SOC, I was hoping for the same.
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Didnt the N4 have some color correction tuneable built into the kernel? Since the N7 mk2 is on a similar SOC, I was hoping for the same.
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The N4 color out of the box was terrible. Not to long after launch a few devs implemented a much better solution baked into their kernels. I would expect the same here. The N4 gamma and color is brilliant now
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It's pretty good on par with iPad 4 according to Anandtech and Apple is known for having good calibration. But then again, just a matter of time when we can calibrate it ourselve like the Nexus 4.
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Excuse my ignorance, but how great of a screen is the N7 supposed to be in comparison to some of the higher end smartphones out there in terms of color reproduction and saturation?
I have the HTC One, and side by side comparisons of the same image makes the N7 look washed out and bland.
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I agree with you completely. I have an HTC One X and immediately thought the 2013 N7 looked pale in comparison. Hopefully there's some resolution in the future.
I have a Note 8 and a Nexus 7.
On colors with green elements displayed on the Nexus 7, the entire photo takes on a distinct greenish hue. The black level on the N7 is not very dark, either.
I set up both tablets on the floor, mounted a camera on a tripod over them and took photos.
Attached are some detail shots of flowers and our dog showing the green wash and the bright blacks. I certainly hope that this is something which can be addressed in software.
http://s13.postimg.org/j1wxfi1d3/1_to_1_detail_nexus_7_top_note_8_bottom.jpg
(fullsize image; nex 7 images at top, note 8 at bottom)
thumbnail preview attached.
I would definitely want to look at the N7 side by side with something else at the shop before buying one, or else be ready to return it if you have trouble with the color accuracy once you get one home.
Not everyone will care, of course.
But what I've seen in reviews is that brightness is good but color is not very accurate, not that both are good.
roustabout,
thank you for that.
that proves my point from other threads, the N7 screen is not properly calibrated yet again.
Overall, it seems pretty good to me. I compared it to my Spyder calibrated IPS monitor and the colors were fairly close.
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The N4 color out of the box was terrible. Not to long after launch a few devs implemented a much better solution baked into their kernels. I would expect the same here. The N4 gamma and color is brilliant now
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They managed to bake it because LG left some display colors related things in the kernel. That said I would like to see if asus made the same thing for this device. (hopefully)
The view angles and color are excellent on it. Much better than the first nexus 7 and a million times better than the nexus 4.
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The view angles and color are excellent on it. Much better than the first nexus 7 and a million times better than the nexus 4.
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That's what I've found: it looks a lot better than my Nexus 7 2012. I think it gets slammed a lot for being "bland" since most of the smartphones like to oversaturate their displays (I'm looking at you, Samsung). I have a really good IPS monitor for my computer, and it seems to fit in quite well with it, and it makes my Galaxy S4 screen look like a colorful kid's toy.
zaclimon said:
They managed to bake it because LG left some display colors related things in the kernel. That said I would like to see if asus made the same thing for this device. (hopefully)
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Asus provides a screen calibration in the setting on the Asus Padfone 2 & Infinity (Stock). So its likely possible.
MrPhilo said:
Asus provides a screen calibration in the setting on the Asus Padfone 2 & Infinity (Stock). So its likely possible.
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Pretty sure the issue with the first generation nexus 7 was that nvidia didn't provide a way to set these things. Qualcomm I believe does so the odds are pretty good. I personally like the stock calibration though. The first time I think its been good on a nexus device. The panel itself is much better than the nexus 10 and nexus 4 as well. Much wider view angles.
MrPhilo said:
Asus provides a screen calibration in the setting on the Asus Padfone 2 & Infinity (Stock). So its likely possible.
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blackhand1001 said:
Pretty sure the issue with the first generation nexus 7 was that nvidia didn't provide a way to set these things. Qualcomm I believe does so the odds are pretty good. I personally like the stock calibration though. The first time I think its been good on a nexus device. The panel itself is much better than the nexus 10 and nexus 4 as well. Much wider view angles.
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Ok well I just hope it was some fail from nvidia's part over here. I just imagine what would be the colors because it seems when I listen to this, it's like a new display has been made. XD