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Good read about Android Honeycomb

http://briefmobile.com/android-honeycomb-has-potential-needs-time-to-mature
Pretty spot on, good read.

nice
my favourite bit has to be:
Apple markets the iPad as this magical, cute, family friendly device while the Xoom is marketed as this totally bad ass, rugged machine that can turn into a spaceship if you try to grab it.
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Finally someone who gets it.

There's one problem with this kind of thinking,you can't charge people $300 more than a much more popular ipad for a beta product.
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alex2792 said:
There's one problem with this kind of thinking,you can't charge people $300 more than a much more popular ipad for a beta product.
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What's even more hilarious is people will sit here and defend this price point.

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What's even more hilarious is people will sit here and defend this price point.
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What's even more funny is the people who will come to xda just to complain because they have nothing better to do.
The xoom is only $70 more than a comparable ipad2 while having better hardware and arguably a better base OS experience.
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A device is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
However, for $70 more than the equivelant model iPad I'm happy for the fact my Xoom eventually will have Flash and 4G.
Dave
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Bauxite said:
What's even more funny is the people who will come to xda just to complain because they have nothing better to do.
The xoom is only $70 more than a comparable ipad2 while having better hardware and arguably a better base OS experience.
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Amen!
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I really, really wish idiots would stop comparing the price of the 16GB wifi only iPad 2 to the 32GB 3G (soon to be 4G) Xoom. It makes no sense.

Got mine with a data package contract for $130 less.

sgtcasey said:
A device is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
However, for $70 more than the equivelant model iPad I'm happy for the fact my Xoom eventually will have Flash and 4G.
Dave
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Also, to upgrade the ipad to 64gb, it's another $100 plus tax. To upgrade a xoom, it's the price of a 32gb micro SD and possibly missing that second part. Not to mention you can upgrade it on your own after you buy it. You're not forced to decide before you buy it.
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The guy didn't say the Xoom was worth the price, but rather Android Honeycomb is a really good operating system.

Really Cool Tech News!!

Not really related to the Samsung Epic, but some really awesome news I couldn't pass by.
http://androidandme.com/2011/02/new...-quad-core-cpus-in-android-devices-by-summer/
Expect some pretty sick tablets this summer =D (just telling those who were considering one)
Also, expect this for phones too by Christmas!
Looks like Q4 of 2011 will be something really spectacular.

Battery life of 10 minutes?
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Battery life of 10 minutes?
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Lol who knows? I'm sure it'll be decent enough if you wanted a wifi tablet.

Holy crap that thing is fast
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My PC just shat itself... yes, my PC.

Darkshneider said:
My PC just shat itself... yes, my PC.
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xD I bet. Even my macbook pro '09 seems to be crying a little.

That's pretty cool.
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That is awesome! This makes me want to hold out on that upgrade after all.
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Maybe time to get rid of my liquid cooled behemoth (size of a large suitcase).
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Another video to show performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRctKtt4RW8
Also, this is expected to run videos at 1440p!

What the hell is this? It's making my i7 cry....

quadcore?!?!?! thats better then my computer....
dumb dual-cored piece of ****.

I wonder if this processor will be able to play high profile h.264 finally. That was a RIDICULOUS flaw in the Tegra 2. Couldn't even play 720p high profile h.264.

muyoso said:
I wonder if this processor will be able to play high profile h.264 finally. That was a RIDICULOUS flaw in the Tegra 2. Couldn't even play 720p high profile h.264.
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I'm sure it could
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Lol they never talk about battery technology do they heh. My extended on my epic doesn't evem go 24 hours
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Wow and i was about to but the galaxy tab 10.1 as soon as it came out
Now i know to wait
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The problem with the SOC market is their business model of planned obsolescence which we (tech nerds) allow to continually give us the reach around.

its an old article..seen it before....but I also cant wait..
to note though dont let the benchmarks fool you too much..if you visit coremarks website:
Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 1600 - SCORE: 9049.77
Intel Core i3 CPU M 380 2530 - SCORE: 19543.40
And remember the AMD E-350 is very low power and is almost as powerful as a core i3...

I was soo against tablets, especially since they they had the same specs as my samsung epic. But this could be good news for me playing TF2 on a tablet. I may have to get one.
I hate "Top Flight Security Mods"

gtuansdiamm said:
Wow and i was about to but the galaxy tab 10.1 as soon as it came out
Now i know to wait
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By the time a quad-core comes out, the six-core will be out. They kinda rushed quad core though, dual core didn't even last 6 months. LOL

Tablet

So im most likely going to get a tablet in june and i was wondering what i should get.
There's always the iPad and then the new galaxy tab is coming out so idk suggest.

I would have suggested the Galaxy Tab 10.1 before I found out it was Tegra 2 based. I personally wouldn't buy any Tegra 2 based tablet due to the ridiculous video playback limitation.

Magic Oreo said:
So im most likely going to get a tablet in june and i was wondering what i should get.
There's always the iPad and then the new galaxy tab is coming out so idk suggest.
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Motorola Xoom or iPad 2
Edit: Or Flyer
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?

Wait until August!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-shows-project-kal-el-quad-core-tegra
Quad-core Tablets for android!!

I just got a ipad2 and im loving it now I just waiting on a jailbreak
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love my xoom
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Blackberry playbook ;-)
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Samsung Epic 4g.

I personally like my Galaxy Tab 7in its not too big and it's not too small..... wish there was more community support for it but.... it's all good still a decent toy all around
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luis12285 said:
I personally like my Galaxy Tab 7in its not too big and it's not too small..... wish there was more community support for it but.... it's all good still a decent toy all around
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I'm still interested in getting the 7in. I think 10in is to much to carry around. 7in is great for ebook reading. I just wish it was led display. I'm a firm believer there is a market for 7in tablets.
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muyoso said:
I would have suggested the Galaxy Tab 10.1 before I found out it was Tegra 2 based. I personally wouldn't buy any Tegra 2 based tablet due to the ridiculous video playback limitation.
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Explain?
I'm looking to get a tablet soon too, and the 10.1 coming out soon was what I was thinking of. The xoom is nice, but screen isn't large enough. The other downside to the 10.1 that I know of is that it's only going to have the proprietary port from Samsung and not USB or anything else, yes?

tigerknight said:
Explain?
I'm looking to get a tablet soon too, and the 10.1 coming out soon was what I was thinking of. The xoom is nice, but screen isn't large enough. The other downside to the 10.1 that I know of is that it's only going to have the proprietary port from Samsung and not USB or anything else, yes?
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Wait until Tegra 3 coming out in August!
Quad-core tablets!!!!!! (look on first page of the thread for link. too lazy to repost)

tigerknight said:
Explain?
I'm looking to get a tablet soon too, and the 10.1 coming out soon was what I was thinking of. The xoom is nice, but screen isn't large enough. The other downside to the 10.1 that I know of is that it's only going to have the proprietary port from Samsung and not USB or anything else, yes?
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Tegra 2 is incapable of playing high profile mkv files smoothly. Basically it would mean having to transcode all of my media. I refuse to do that, since even the ORIGINAL iPad can play high profile mkv files flawlessly (with XBMC), as can our Epic 4g's.

muyoso said:
Tegra 2 is incapable of playing high profile mkv files smoothly. Basically it would mean having to transcode all of my media. I refuse to do that, since even the ORIGINAL iPad can play high profile mkv files flawlessly (with XBMC), as can our Epic 4g's.
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Ahh, gotchya. Thanks for the info. I wasn't planning on using it for movies but that's good to know. Is the Tegra 3 a solution to this or just a next gen quad core with the same flaw?

tigerknight said:
Ahh, gotchya. Thanks for the info. I wasn't planning on using it for movies but that's good to know. Is the Tegra 3 a solution to this or just a next gen quad core with the same flaw?
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Tegra 3 is just a next gen quad core, but it almost certainly will fix the flaw. Even if they didn't, technically the quad core would be powerful enough to just use the cpu to software decode the video most likely.

I say the nook color rooted thats just me!! Half the price of the galaxy tab and the same hardware....
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thetruejay20 said:
I say the nook color rooted thats just me!! Half the price of the galaxy tab and the same hardware....
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Not so much:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4302/battle-of-the-budget-tablets-nook-color-vs-galaxy-tab

Ok without the camera and has an underclocked cpu oh and the screen lol
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I think the biggest bang for the $$ at this moment is Acer iconia (a) sales in Staple for $450 dual core, hdmi, wifi only etc...
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thetruejay20 said:
Ok without the camera and has an underclocked cpu oh and the screen lol
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To be honest though, id probably go for the Nook color too if I needed a tablet right now. Would love to find one used for like a hundred to mess with.

Who's going to be the first company to use THz Processors

What company will start to use terahertz. Gigahertz is so old school now. And is boring. What company will have it in there phone first?
LG
HTC
Samsung
Kyocera
Apple
HP Palm
Dell
Motorola
Sanyo
Submit ur vote!
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Wait what? high end computers don't go past 6 or 8 gigahertz at the very maximum and you think we're gonna get something 100 times what we have now any time soon? Or am I mistaken in the definition of terahertz, which j doubt.
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sageDieu said:
Wait what? high end computers don't go past 6 or 8 gigahertz at the very maximum and you think we're gonna get something 100 times what we have now any time soon? Or am I mistaken in the definition of terahertz, which j doubt.
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I second this, I mean if you asked who would hit 2 Ghz or first quad core on sale it would be am interesting post but terahertz?
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High end computers dont go that high even with overclocking. So what makes you think phones can? Phones dont even reach 2ghz and thats low for computers.
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REDO. Sorry this was a dumb thread.
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Fail in epic proportions

Nope, no...let's keep this going.
I say....140 years.
This is when we find unobtainium, some 80-100 years from now. It will take another 40ish years before we can harness the power in computers.

A thz processor would require a nitrogen cooling system and a 10000 mah stock battery.
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Avelnan said:
A thz processor would require a nitrogen cooling system and a 10000 mah stock battery.
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that would be the most epic phone ever.
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Terahertz is old school. How about googlehertz?
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Enyo. said:
What company will start to use terahertz. Gigahertz is so old school now. And is boring. What company will have it in there phone first?
LG
HTC
Samsung
Kyocera
Apple
HP Palm
Dell
Motorola
Sanyo
Submit ur vote!
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I vote my local fire department

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/08/ibm-shows-off-155ghz-graphene-transistor-in-the-name-of-darpa-re/
well, it's about 1/10th of the way there, but years down the road, who knows what will come of this

I think we all stand corrected on the quad core thing.
Apple to face fast Android tablets - http://pulse.me/s/1ak2S
(might not work for you guys since it is copied from pulse.)
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CamdogXIII said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/08/ibm-shows-off-155ghz-graphene-transistor-in-the-name-of-darpa-re/
well, it's about 1/10th of the way there, but years down the road, who knows what will come of this
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Mind you, a transistor isn't a processor! A single modern processor includes approximately one billion transistors!
Hz also isn't everything, in the PC world, the trend for the last several years have been to improve the IPC, rather than the Hz! It's the reason that a Pentium 4 running nearly 4 GHz would be crushed by a Sandy Bridge running at <2 GHz (even ignoring the extra cores).
sageDieu said:
I think we all stand corrected on the quad core thing.
Apple to face fast Android tablets - http://pulse.me/s/1ak2S
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How exactly do we stand corrected? It doesn't seem to be contradicting anything... in either this or the quad core thread! If anything, it backs up the claim that nVidia will be first with quad core processors (none of that info in that article looks at all recent, at least a couple months old!).

Just calculate it using Moore's law, though that thinking has a different meaning as technologies mature. Googlehertz makes more sense. Derp.
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(Not an Epic topic, but I need Epic users help!)

So I hope this is allowed since your the most people I trust lol. I searched but couldn't find a smilar thread to post in on the epic forums.
So I wanna buy a laptop. I want to get the best I can have that will do good with android work and cost up to about $300. I don't really wanna spend more for a laptop. And I don't wanna have to order it online unless that's the only way to actually get it. So if its in a well known store that would be bettter.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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I know you said you didn't want to buy online, but the lenovo outlet has had some pretty good deals lately.
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Dunno if you can even get a new laptop for that much. Spent 650$ for mine its a pretty decent laptop. What kind of android work do you mean? Rom compiling? Kernel compiling? I would say new egg.com is pretty good with used laptops that are decent if you want a good laptop you'll need to spend more than 300$
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Lol well I guess ill have to just search and see what I find. And I wanted to do mods and roms so I would need ubunto so something that would work good with that.
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lilajrestnom said:
Lol well I guess ill have to just search and see what I find. And I wanted to do mods and roms so I would need ubunto so something that would work good with that.
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You'll need something pretty beefy otherwise you'll spend all day compiling one rom. Recommend amount of just ram is 16gb for compiling ics. Just look around the interwebs. I'm sure you could find something decent.
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ÜBER™ said:
You'll need something pretty beefy otherwise you'll spend all day compiling one rom. Recommend amount of just ram is 16gb for compiling ics. Just look around the interwebs. I'm sure you could find something decent.
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I have 4gb ram and can compile just fine
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
I have 4gb ram and can compile just fine
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You also have a relatively fast processor as well. I'm not saying its all ram... but with more takes less time.
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Okay, so what do you guys think about this?
http://deals.bestbuy.com//a+graduat...+laptop++4gb+memory++500gb+hard+drive++pewter

lilajrestnom said:
Okay, so what do you guys think about this?
http://deals.bestbuy.com//a+graduat...+laptop++4gb+memory++500gb+hard+drive++pewter
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That is really freaking good for the price. I'm sure it will run fine on LMDE (or Ubuntu if you want to be lame).
Edit: if possible, I would upgrade to 6 or 8 gb of ram, but 4 should be fine
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MДЯCЦSДИT said:
That is really freaking good for the price. I'm sure it will run fine on LMDE (or Ubuntu if you want to be lame).
Edit: if possible, I would upgrade to 6 or 8 gb of ram, but 4 should be fine
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And what about this one?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP---15...ategoryId=pcmcat247400050000&id=1218608957417
Which is better?

The first one is better. Its actually almost similar to mine accept I have the DV6z quad core with an amd a8 although with that graphics card you will need to run lmde because Ubuntu does not like it. Its almost the same gpu as mine buy I paid more for mine and its at a higher clock speed and better model gpu. It should be sufficient.
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ÜBER™ said:
The first one is better. Its actually almost similar to mine accept I have the DV6z quad core with an amd a8 although with that graphics card you will need to run lmde because Ubuntu does not like it. Its almost the same gpu as mine buy I paid more for mine and its at a higher clock speed and better model gpu. It should be sufficient.
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Then I think i will be getting the first one.
Thanks you guys. I'll still look and let you know if i find anything else to compare lol.

You might want to check out pawn shops before you go online shopping, there's this laptop near where im at that is worth at least 500, and its just sitting at the store for 329.99 and someone could probably snag it for 300.
Comes with:
Intel Core i-5 2.20 GHZ
Windows 7 professional
4 gb ram
450 gb hdd
Dell, with a custom skull design on the front.
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Shinydude100 said:
Dell, with a custom skull design on the front.
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custom skull graphic adds 2 horse power.
wait, wrong forum, sorry.

if you want for a little more money
ASUS 15.6" $479.99
Specs: 2.5GHz i5 Bosst up to 3.1GHz, 4Gb DDR3, 500Gb, 3-Cell Lithium
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...Suit/5036973.p?id=1218608970710&skuId=5036973
ASUS 15.6" $499.99
Specs: 2.3GHz, 6-cell lithium, 8gb ddr3, 750Gb
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...Suit/5396361.p?id=1218642239510&skuId=5396361

http://m.tigerdirect.com/aHR0cDovL3...0YWlscy5hc3A/RWRwTm89MjAwODAyOSZDYXRJZD00OTM4
Is pretty sweet same prissesors as the ones op posted but has a better graphics card and is only 400
There were better deals during cyber Monday
Also I can attest to tiger direct being legit
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lilajrestnom said:
Okay, so what do you guys think about this?
http://deals.bestbuy.com//a+graduat...+laptop++4gb+memory++500gb+hard+drive++pewter
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lilajrestnom said:
And what about this one?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP---15...ategoryId=pcmcat247400050000&id=1218608957417
Which is better?
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Both have AMD APU's.
I've been told (by a friend) the AMD APU's don't play that well with Ubuntu.
Could have been user error, but IIRC he said he found a good bit of people having trouble online..
Just givin a heads up, if others have reason to disagree or personal experience, go with their advice over mine...
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Both have AMD APU's.
I've been told (by a friend) the AMD APU's don't play that well with Ubuntu.
Could have been user error, but IIRC he said he found a good bit of people having trouble online..
Just givin a heads up, if others have reason to disagree or personal experience, go with their advice over mine...
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Well your not the only one who told me ubuntu wouldn't work on them very well lol.
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Just my .02, but I avoid AMD like it's the Bubonic plague...

nubecoder said:
Both have AMD APU's.
I've been told (by a friend) the AMD APU's don't play that well with Ubuntu.
Could have been user error, but IIRC he said he found a good bit of people having trouble online..
Just givin a heads up, if others have reason to disagree or personal experience, go with their advice over mine...
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yeah the newer Ubuntu doesn't like it. I have the and a8 APU'S and it just gets the black screen of death.... the sad part is at the end of boot up the song plays.... anyways yeah I suggested using LMDE since everything works upon boot up. Which was surprising. Well actually except CPU scailing and governors. But lilaj when you do get it and decide to put Linux on it. I can help ya.
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