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thunderbolt...

I tried the Thunderbolt for 2 weeks and returned it and this is why... its about twice as thick and ALOT heavier than the fascinate. Battery wouldn't last all day when I barely used it while my fascinate would easily last 2 days with little use or a full day of heavy use. The screen on the fascinate looks a lot better than the thunderbolt. Another thing I noticed was that the thunderbolt was always a lot hotter then my fascinate even when it was at its regular clock speed and was regularly at 110 degrees Fahrenheit or higher. So if anybody is thinking about getting the thunderbolt I hope I saved you the $35 restocking fee.

Nice to hear that the grass isn't always greener!
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You just saved me 500 bucks.
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Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?

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Galaxy S II anyone?
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I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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Tkun said:
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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Hopefully they will update the Galaxy S II a little more often then they have been doing with the fascinate but I think Samsung's hardware makes up for everything

Im probly still goin to get one I would like more oppinions tho some ppl love it and some hate it xD I won't know till I try it my self
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I havent had 2 weeks worth of trial with it, but my Daughter just got one. As with every phone, it has it's ups and downs. I agree with most of the OP, but it has some positives. The front camera for one, the 4G for another.
It is like heaving around a brick though in size and weight compared to the Fascinate.
I am not switching to anything anytime soon, but I would still wait awhile to see what the community does with the customizations before i would choose anything...

ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.

deaffob said:
ha I don't care even if Galaxy 2 has 2ghz triple core, I wouldn't buy Samsung phone again. I'd rather have faster update than better hardware.
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You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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hardware isn't everything... source is everything.

Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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I rooted mine.. hardware is nothing with crap software and no support from the manufacturer whatsoever.

Jrex said:
You obviously don't root your phones cause if you did then you would know that hardware is everything...?
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LoL person with no knowledge of android development.

deaffob said:
LoL person with no knowledge of android development.
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Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW

bigtlt said:
I just never saw the draw of the thunderbolt. Most of the country doesn't have 4g and its still single core.
OTB'd CM6 FTW
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I was actually messing with a TB yesterday and I think it is pretty cool but not cool e'nuff. There are to many big dawgz coming out soon, and like you said 4g is probably 2 years from my area...!

Jrex said:
Omg, are you for real? It wasn't even a serious comment lmao! Go trade your fascinate for an HTC if software is all you want. Here is one for ya! "lighten up, and live a little?" Yeah? Maybe? HaHa...
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Actually you were serious but you realized you were being stupid so you are trying to cover yourself up. I would trade it I can fyi.
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Tkun said:
Kernels will help with the battery life, and I've used it and I don't mind the heaviness at all. The main reasons why I'm not bothering to upgrade to it is because the screen isn't as nice, and the GPU doesn't seem as good as the Fascinate's. To expand on that GPU point, I used Neocore on my sister's Thunderbolt and my Fascinate at the same time, and my Fascinate performed smoother and quicker, however the final FPS score was apparently better on the Thunderbolt's, which I found strange. However visuals don't lie, while benchmarks sometimes do (especially quadrants).
Overall, I'd just wait for a decent dual-core phone on Verizon, rather than upgrading to the Thunderbolt. Galaxy S II anyone?
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That might be because the fascinate is framerate limited to ~60 fps, it won't go above 60, even if the GPU could run it faster

Battery life for me has been similar to my fascinate and it was worth switching just to be able to use data while I'm using the phone. My area won't have LTE for another year but I use a lot of data and getting an unlimited plan while verizon still offers them seemed prudent.
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TheSonicEmerald said:
I'm definitely hoping the GSII will come to Verizon. The Exynos processor, the screen, the thinness and weight, and the extra codecs are pure awesomeness.
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and the lack up support is what I'm dying for. J/K, but really I would never buy another samsung, anything!

Tablet

So im most likely going to get a tablet in june and i was wondering what i should get.
There's always the iPad and then the new galaxy tab is coming out so idk suggest.

I would have suggested the Galaxy Tab 10.1 before I found out it was Tegra 2 based. I personally wouldn't buy any Tegra 2 based tablet due to the ridiculous video playback limitation.

Magic Oreo said:
So im most likely going to get a tablet in june and i was wondering what i should get.
There's always the iPad and then the new galaxy tab is coming out so idk suggest.
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Motorola Xoom or iPad 2
Edit: Or Flyer
Did the news get around about a guy named butcher pete?

Wait until August!!!
http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia-shows-project-kal-el-quad-core-tegra
Quad-core Tablets for android!!

I just got a ipad2 and im loving it now I just waiting on a jailbreak
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love my xoom
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Blackberry playbook ;-)
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Samsung Epic 4g.

I personally like my Galaxy Tab 7in its not too big and it's not too small..... wish there was more community support for it but.... it's all good still a decent toy all around
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luis12285 said:
I personally like my Galaxy Tab 7in its not too big and it's not too small..... wish there was more community support for it but.... it's all good still a decent toy all around
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I'm still interested in getting the 7in. I think 10in is to much to carry around. 7in is great for ebook reading. I just wish it was led display. I'm a firm believer there is a market for 7in tablets.
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muyoso said:
I would have suggested the Galaxy Tab 10.1 before I found out it was Tegra 2 based. I personally wouldn't buy any Tegra 2 based tablet due to the ridiculous video playback limitation.
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Explain?
I'm looking to get a tablet soon too, and the 10.1 coming out soon was what I was thinking of. The xoom is nice, but screen isn't large enough. The other downside to the 10.1 that I know of is that it's only going to have the proprietary port from Samsung and not USB or anything else, yes?

tigerknight said:
Explain?
I'm looking to get a tablet soon too, and the 10.1 coming out soon was what I was thinking of. The xoom is nice, but screen isn't large enough. The other downside to the 10.1 that I know of is that it's only going to have the proprietary port from Samsung and not USB or anything else, yes?
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Wait until Tegra 3 coming out in August!
Quad-core tablets!!!!!! (look on first page of the thread for link. too lazy to repost)

tigerknight said:
Explain?
I'm looking to get a tablet soon too, and the 10.1 coming out soon was what I was thinking of. The xoom is nice, but screen isn't large enough. The other downside to the 10.1 that I know of is that it's only going to have the proprietary port from Samsung and not USB or anything else, yes?
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Tegra 2 is incapable of playing high profile mkv files smoothly. Basically it would mean having to transcode all of my media. I refuse to do that, since even the ORIGINAL iPad can play high profile mkv files flawlessly (with XBMC), as can our Epic 4g's.

muyoso said:
Tegra 2 is incapable of playing high profile mkv files smoothly. Basically it would mean having to transcode all of my media. I refuse to do that, since even the ORIGINAL iPad can play high profile mkv files flawlessly (with XBMC), as can our Epic 4g's.
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Ahh, gotchya. Thanks for the info. I wasn't planning on using it for movies but that's good to know. Is the Tegra 3 a solution to this or just a next gen quad core with the same flaw?

tigerknight said:
Ahh, gotchya. Thanks for the info. I wasn't planning on using it for movies but that's good to know. Is the Tegra 3 a solution to this or just a next gen quad core with the same flaw?
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Tegra 3 is just a next gen quad core, but it almost certainly will fix the flaw. Even if they didn't, technically the quad core would be powerful enough to just use the cpu to software decode the video most likely.

I say the nook color rooted thats just me!! Half the price of the galaxy tab and the same hardware....
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thetruejay20 said:
I say the nook color rooted thats just me!! Half the price of the galaxy tab and the same hardware....
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Not so much:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4302/battle-of-the-budget-tablets-nook-color-vs-galaxy-tab

Ok without the camera and has an underclocked cpu oh and the screen lol
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I think the biggest bang for the $$ at this moment is Acer iconia (a) sales in Staple for $450 dual core, hdmi, wifi only etc...
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thetruejay20 said:
Ok without the camera and has an underclocked cpu oh and the screen lol
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To be honest though, id probably go for the Nook color too if I needed a tablet right now. Would love to find one used for like a hundred to mess with.

Googles next flagship phone: Nexus 4G

Apparently it will be huge. Maybe even 5". Powerful guts and an HD high resolution screen as well. I know that maybe too big for someone but it would be perfectly acceptable for me. What do you guys expect? Do you think it'll blow the galaxy s2 out of the park?
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/165...5-apple-nfc-samsung-htc-lg-qualcomm-snapd.htm
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387168,00.asp

.......................wooptido!

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.......................wooptido!
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How you gonna do me like that son?

Do you realize.. ALL that information could be fake because all they say is "possibly" "could be" etc.
a month ago i heard that the next nexus flagship was going to be quad core.

xriderx66 said:
Do you realize.. ALL that information could be fake because all they say is "possibly" "could be" etc.
a month ago i heard that the next nexus flagship was going to be quad core.
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Speculating is fun

the next nexus phone gonna have a built in teleporter.

xriderx66 said:
the next nexus phone gonna have a built in teleporter.
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I for one welcome our new Brundlefly overlords.

xriderx66 said:
the next nexus phone gonna have a built in teleporter.
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And will do your laundry.

Way too much speculation. Its too early to tell but I would be surprised if it didn't have a quad core since the tegra 3 is already in the pipeline.
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I hear it will wash ur car for u too!
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+1 for a bacon dispensor

I can't fap to this.
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I just came 8D.....but seriously most speculation on the nexus phones tends to end up being true ( based on the other two being what we thought they'd be) we'll see though
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ECOTOX said:
I just came 8D.....but seriously most speculation on the nexus phones tends to end up being true ( based on the other two being what we thought they'd be) we'll see though
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True, TOX
10chars

movieaddict said:
I hear it will wash ur car for u too!
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And it will have an extra port so you can make sweet love to it.
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archie53 said:
And it will have an extra port so you can make sweet love to it.
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that is just too far.
GET OUT.
lololo but srsly man thats ****ing disgusting.

ECOTOX said:
I just came 8D.....but seriously most speculation on the nexus phones tends to end up being true ( based on the other two being what we thought they'd be) we'll see though
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For months people thought the Nexus S would be at least a Tegra 2...

why you brahs so mad?

XPLANE9 said:
For months people thought the Nexus S would be at least a Tegra 2...
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I personally didnt hear anything about NS being tegra 2 before =P I heard something about samsung making it and didnt look much more after because I assumed itd have hummingbird. The N1 though I knew every detail (almost) before it came out, but got impatient and missed my chance to get one =/ It came out a couple months after I got my G1 =P

dardani89 said:
Way too much speculation. Its too early to tell but I would be surprised if it didn't have a quad core since the tegra 3 is already in the pipeline.
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Doesn't look that way since article states :
"The device is expected to be powered by either Texas Instrument's OMAP 4460 chip or an ultra low-power 28nm Krait-based Snapdragon processor from Qualcomm running at 1.2GHz or 1.5GHz."
There could be manufacturing delays with tegra 3 so they might stick with dual core. Instead of releasing with a dual core at end of 2011 they should release with a quad core in beginning of 2012.
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Who's going to be the first company to use THz Processors

What company will start to use terahertz. Gigahertz is so old school now. And is boring. What company will have it in there phone first?
LG
HTC
Samsung
Kyocera
Apple
HP Palm
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Motorola
Sanyo
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Wait what? high end computers don't go past 6 or 8 gigahertz at the very maximum and you think we're gonna get something 100 times what we have now any time soon? Or am I mistaken in the definition of terahertz, which j doubt.
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sageDieu said:
Wait what? high end computers don't go past 6 or 8 gigahertz at the very maximum and you think we're gonna get something 100 times what we have now any time soon? Or am I mistaken in the definition of terahertz, which j doubt.
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I second this, I mean if you asked who would hit 2 Ghz or first quad core on sale it would be am interesting post but terahertz?
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High end computers dont go that high even with overclocking. So what makes you think phones can? Phones dont even reach 2ghz and thats low for computers.
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REDO. Sorry this was a dumb thread.
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Fail in epic proportions

Nope, no...let's keep this going.
I say....140 years.
This is when we find unobtainium, some 80-100 years from now. It will take another 40ish years before we can harness the power in computers.

A thz processor would require a nitrogen cooling system and a 10000 mah stock battery.
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Avelnan said:
A thz processor would require a nitrogen cooling system and a 10000 mah stock battery.
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that would be the most epic phone ever.
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Terahertz is old school. How about googlehertz?
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Enyo. said:
What company will start to use terahertz. Gigahertz is so old school now. And is boring. What company will have it in there phone first?
LG
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Kyocera
Apple
HP Palm
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Motorola
Sanyo
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I vote my local fire department

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/08/ibm-shows-off-155ghz-graphene-transistor-in-the-name-of-darpa-re/
well, it's about 1/10th of the way there, but years down the road, who knows what will come of this

I think we all stand corrected on the quad core thing.
Apple to face fast Android tablets - http://pulse.me/s/1ak2S
(might not work for you guys since it is copied from pulse.)
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CamdogXIII said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/08/ibm-shows-off-155ghz-graphene-transistor-in-the-name-of-darpa-re/
well, it's about 1/10th of the way there, but years down the road, who knows what will come of this
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Mind you, a transistor isn't a processor! A single modern processor includes approximately one billion transistors!
Hz also isn't everything, in the PC world, the trend for the last several years have been to improve the IPC, rather than the Hz! It's the reason that a Pentium 4 running nearly 4 GHz would be crushed by a Sandy Bridge running at <2 GHz (even ignoring the extra cores).
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I think we all stand corrected on the quad core thing.
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How exactly do we stand corrected? It doesn't seem to be contradicting anything... in either this or the quad core thread! If anything, it backs up the claim that nVidia will be first with quad core processors (none of that info in that article looks at all recent, at least a couple months old!).

Just calculate it using Moore's law, though that thinking has a different meaning as technologies mature. Googlehertz makes more sense. Derp.
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Samsung Galaxy III "Leaks"(Might be the real thing)

For those of you interested in the Galaxy III, here's a leaked video which shows it. I didn't see a thread about it in this section, unless I'm blind(Or if it was deleted).
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...alaxy-s-iii-leaks-looks-to-be-the-real-thing/

No it's not It's either the Galaxy M / Galaxsy s2 plus Samsung has bashed it already

the specs are what i expected... the only question is ... pentile or no pentile? keyboard or no keyboard (on Sprint)?

Yeah i say it's the sg2+
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Android Police are saying S3 also
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-1-4ghz-quad-core-processor-and-720p-display/

Its the s3... I doubt they make a sgs2+ that's stupid. This isn't bad spec wise anyways... this sounds more realistic. 2.0ghz quadcore exynos and 2gb of ram is a little to much hype. 1.4ghz quadcore and 1gb ram sounds just about right.
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ÜBER™ said:
Its the s3... I doubt they make a sgs2+ that's stupid. This isn't bad spec wise anyways... this sounds more realistic. 2.0ghz quadcore exynos and 2gb of ram is a little to much hype. 1.4ghz quadcore and 1gb ram sounds just about right.
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I do not need more ram than my laptop nor a better processor than 75% of PCs...
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I do not need more ram than my laptop nor a better processor than 75% of PCs...
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No doubt. =] thanks.
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Am i the only one who thought "Meh" during entire video ?

iSaint said:
Am i the only one who thought "Meh" during entire video ?
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Haven't watched it yet. But it is pretty nice =]. but not waiting 6 months for it gnex.
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Haven't watched it yet. But it is pretty nice =]. but not waiting 6 months for it gnex.
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The gnex looks nicer
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I think 2GB RAM would be pushing it, but I do seriously hope this comes with the 5250 dual A15 processor. That's a significant upgrade IMO.
EDIT: I guess it's not really an opinion as much as it's a fact...

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the gnex looks nicer
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iSaint said:
Am i the only one who thought "Meh" during entire video ?
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No, you weren't. We'll see what's Sprint version is going to be. I'm wondering if that quad-core supports LTE. I'm leaning towards the Nexus right now.

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No, you weren't. We'll see what's Sprint version is going to be. I'm wondering if that quad-core supports LTE. I'm leaning towards the Nexus right now.
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Same, I just wish Sammy would blow us away with an awesome physical phone
tired of their crappy cheap feeling phones.
The other day i picked up my Hero and realised how better built it actually is compared to the epic touch and my og epic ...

iSaint said:
Same, I just wish Sammy would blow us away with an awesome physical phone
tired of their crappy cheap feeling phones.
The other day i picked up my Hero and realised how better built it actually is compared to the epic touch and my og epic ...
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From my experience, Samsungs may "feel" cheap, but they are more rugged than any HTC friends and family have had. Sure those thin metal accents look and feel nice in your hand, but I know too many people with their HTC's having chunks of their phones missing, scratches, and dings. I've dropped my phone a few times and it still looks like new with no sort of extra protection.

As I tweeted about this last night, whoever at Samsung designed the Touchwiz UI for ICS needs to be shot. Then fired. In that order. That is the WORST looking UI on an ICS device :\
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ÜBER™ said:
Its the s3... I doubt they make a sgs2+ that's stupid. This isn't bad spec wise anyways... this sounds more realistic. 2.0ghz quadcore exynos and 2gb of ram is a little to much hype. 1.4ghz quadcore and 1gb ram sounds just about right.
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I think Samsung already confirmed the sg2+
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marcusant said:
The gnex looks nicer
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You don't know what the S3 looks like yet though?...
Its in a dummy shell that's not the real physical phone only the internals.
I'm looking forward to this.
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Total ram of 681mb. I agree 2gbs of ram is overkill but at least give us 1gb of USABLE space C'mon sammy!
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