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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
I've had the same thought, but since my GF got it for me for X-mas, I'm gonna keep using it, and give it back to her when I can afford a XOOM
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Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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I got the tab in January and so far other than gaining root haven’t done anything else with it, the mobility factor is a big plus no question about it, but then I got the xoom on launching day and now I really like them both…so if or when you do it you will appreciate the differences.
I think the Devs have nothing to do with your decision.
I really like the form factor, but performance is an issue with my tab. and with the dev community not really huge, i feel left out of so much with all of these honeycomb tegra2 tablets coming out. I just really feel that Samsung really jumped the gun with the tab. releasing it with no hopes of any real update. Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
Maybe SGT 8.9 if released with similar specs as of the xoom. and reasonably priced
The tegra processors and Honycomb make our tab look outdated already but IMO the differences are not that big unless one expects too much from a tablet; is not going to replace our laptops yet…as for sami updating my hopes are nonexistent. I was in Germany recently when a saw the tab of a friend of mine, phone working etc I turned green . My biggest beef is with the carriers here in the US that crippled the device.
tegra 2 isnt a device without their own problem
like not able to play 720p mkv movies unless it converted on a specific format
that would be a problem to some people
and is there really a lot of app that dual core ready anyway?
afaik, for normal process, only 1 core would work unless there's a need for the 2nd core?
jumping too soon on honeycomb with limited apps wouldnt make that much of a difference either
and did you say saving up? how long? ^^
if it took months, who knows we already got honeycomb or ice cream on the way on our tab?
honeycomb, i doubt, but the next generation for smartphone definitely gonna be ported to our tab IMO
my main interest in this tab is phone capability, so unless there's another contender out there, i'm still gonna keep this one
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Then pretty much rubbing it in our face by releasing 2 more tabs that are far more superior. makes me feel like i made a bad investment by falling for their trickery.
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I'm trying to see what trickery Samsung have fooled you with here?
The 7" Tab was sold as an Android 2.2 device, with no promise of a Honeycomb update, and that's what they delivered.
We may, or may not get an official upgrade, which may be Honeycomb, or perhaps Gingerbread, but the Tab is still a very capable and useful device as is IMO. I do believe that we will at least get an unofficial Honeycomb ROM once the source code drops.
None of the upcoming tablets can replace my Tab because they are too big for my purposes, though I may end up getting a bigger tablet purely for home use.
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For me its all about size, the 10s are just to big to carry around comfortably. Might as well continue to carry my Dell mini9 laptop. I dont require much from my tab maybe thats why Im happy with the 7.
Remember no matter what you buy it has a good 6 months of obsolescence built in
I think most devs wait for the honeycomb source... no one wants a broken sdk port on an expensive device...
As soon as HC hits aosp I'll contribute developing.
And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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And the xoom community won't move very fast with development for the first six months either. And with that price, probably not much development after that.
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Agreed. The xoom may be "developer friendly" but it is way too expensive to mess around with.. the galaxy tab gets cheaper and cheaper and will attract more devs too over time.
Why are we comparing the Tab and the Xoom? Two totally different niches. Anyone buying a Tab should know what they are getting, and most that do are getting them for a reason. 7 inches, and a solid product with the full Android Market without having to push it onto the device.
I have three different 7 inch tablets right now (had a 4th, but the Dell Streak 7 is dismal) and the Galaxy Tab is BY FAR the best of the three. The NookColor is fun, and is running dual-boot Honeycomb (port from sdk) and froyo. It's overclocked to 1.1Ghz and is primarily used by my wife as an e-reader (which is what B&N intended), though she likes firing up Angry Birds, etc.
The Archos 70 Internet Tablet is running 2.2.1..and is slim and can handle just about ANY media thrown it's way. Archos is a leader in Media devices, having created the HDD portable Music player before anyone else (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos)...including Apple. It's hands down the best for watching movies. However it's flimsy and buggy...Archos sucks at support, truly. Plus, there's not much in the way of accessories for it. I had the 10.1 also...but sold it.
My Tab gets the most use...as I swap my phone's sim into it quite frequently. And it handles pretty much everything I want it to do. Out of the 3, theres no comparison as to my satisfaction.
If I wanted another 10" Tablet...and wanted Honeycomb right now, I STILL would not get the Xoom. I can afford it, but that doesn't mean I want to plunk down $800 on something obviously rushed out of production. Too many things wrong with this early adopter device.
Here's to hoping the incoming 8.9' Galaxy Tab has some of the kinks worked out...cuz I'm gonna pounce on it right away. 10.1" prolly not, the form factor just too large for my usage.
Whatever some people get, they will NEVER be satisfied
hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
kenfly said:
Seeing where the SGT Dev community is going (nowhere).... I am thinking of selling my 3 week old SGT for cash and saving up for the wifi-Xoom. Anyone in the same boat.... or can rebut my opinion.
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If you bought a tablet based on the dev community then you were wrong to do that in the first place. You buy something for what it is, not what it may be based on some random people messing around with roms.
I can't see how a 10" Xoom could possibly be a replacement for the 7" SGT. One you can carry around with you, use in your car, act as a backup phone, and the other is mostly a stay at home couch device. Personally I think the Xoom is a bit of a let down on things it should be better at - like playing high bitrate movies. SGT blows it away on that score. The SGT build and screen is also very high quality. As good as my iPad 1 (which I've not really touched since the SGT came along. Never mind how I've come to despise the Apple lock-in methodology...).
Honeycomb looks like it will be a great update when the bugs are ironed out, but Froyo (maybe Gingerbread soon) on the SGT currently makes more sense as the device really is closer to a phone than a tablet (and I'm personally happy that it is). Ice Cream Sandwich looks like it will be the natural OS upgrade for this device, as it will combine Honeycomb UI changes with smartphone functionality. Whether Samsung will release it for the SGT in the coming months is anyone's guess, but for now I'm rocking the Tab. For a couch device I'll see what the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is like (hopefully they'll find a fix for the video snafu), but none of the Tegra 2 SoC based tablets are wowing me at the moment.
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hehe...truly, and that's why my wife calls me a gadget whore...just have to have em all. Could be worse in her eyes, at least I'm loyal to her
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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I'm one too. I hide some from my wife too, so that makes me some kind of addict! But she uses the RAZR we got many years ago.
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Lol...not mine, she's become a gadget snob. Though she won't admit it, she's glad to be cutting edge. I see it when her girlfriends drool over the cool gadgets she totes around, lmao. We'll go get coffee, and she will look to see who noticed her pretty NookColor while she's reading and surfing the internets.
So you're selling a device because people aren't modding it? IMHO that's a ridiculous reason to sell this amazing piece of tech.
And im guessing one main reason is Honeycomb because, lets face it, its what everyone wants in a tablet. Then why not buy a Nook? You complain lack of development, the Nook Honeycomb port is better than anything they'll ever do with the Xoom.
Still, just my opinion. I'm keeping my Tab until it dies, then ill get another one.
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and..truly one of these days someone WILL put out an Android device that doesn't need modding! Might be 3 years from now...with 8 core cpu & AirWave connectivity (5+TB wireless connection passed through our existing electrical cables that are strung on the poles...or passed through now vacated VHF / UHF signals...yeah, I can dream BIG!)
But you will only be able to get 3g data or 2g+ voice.
I am guessing that HP is going to sell the touchpads for practically nothing. Anyone thinking about picking one up just or the hell of it?
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I might get one at $200 for my mother...
No more than that...
I really want one!
I will only get one of they decide to Open Source the OS. Otherwise I won't because I don't think there will be any developer support for it and new apps coming out.
I hope you live in a supported country.
I had one and sold it within a week.
It really sucks, and its slow.
My advice save the 200 and get something else.
There's a lot of great android tablets available for 200 usd.
The touchpad has done nothing for me except make me use webos gestures on my sgs2 and the xoom......
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HP's biggest mistake was putting WebOS on it. I guess they learned nothing from the failed attempt called the Palm Pre.
Hey speaking of which, the Touchpad sounds like it will be pulled from the market completely. I suppose they were embarrassed when WebOS ran faster on the iPad when they gave it a test run. They are said to be working on another tablet, a 7 inch tablet I believe. Since it most likely will not be running WebOS, and since the only open source OS is Android... I think I know what will happen next! Hmmm...
I would personally never touch any tablet that isn't running the Android OS. Not the Playbook, the Touchpad, and definitely not the iPad!
Open source+Android+Google=Win.
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Hey speaking of which, the Touchpad sounds like it will be pulled from the market completely. I suppose they were embarrassed when WebOS ran faster on the iPad when they gave it a test run. They are said to be working on another tablet, a 7 inch tablet I believe. Since it most likely will not be running WebOS, and since the only open source OS is Android... I think I know what will happen next! Hmmm...
I would personally never touch any tablet that isn't running the Android OS. Not the Playbook, the Touchpad, and definitely not the iPad!
Open source+Android+Google=Win.
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+1 We think alike.
Android on Touchpad
Those tablets have an open bootloader, they can run android. It might be time to start a forum for doing just that?
The official line is that only the hardware side is dead, and the platform will continue for development & licensing. But no doubt an outright sale is preferred, given the strategic direction change with the $10B+ planned acquisition of Autonomy. Either way, WebOS will be mothballed for the foreseeable future, with no dev support.
The common line among pundits is that HP muffed the tablet & phone launches, with mediocre hardware and half-baked software, and decided to cut its losses. IMO, WebOS never had much of a chance, even if the launches went off well. On one side, there is the iPad with its polished UI and many apps. On the other, you have a legion of low-cost Android tabs. There is no breathing room.
HP's announced strategy for WebOS adoption was to piggyback on Windows as a shell in HP PCs & printers, where its vast market share is a strength. But WebOS' chance went from slim to none the moment MS announced that Win8 would encompass tablets, has a touch-friendly GUI, and run on ARM. The rationale to include it as a Windows touch-GUI was no longer viable. Thus the sole chance of WebOS penetration rests on the tablet doing well, which it didn't. But the tablet was never the main plan for WebOS, the PC was.
The bigger impact by far to HP's stock walloping is the announcement of exiting the PC market. Not sure what the thinking is here, to announce it way before it had a deal lined up. HP PC sales will suffer, especially going into the all-important back-to-school and holiday shopping periods. Apotheker has a lot to answer for.
The other shoe left to drop is when RIM would cry uncle with the Playbook.
HP should license the OS or certain features in it if they arent going to make it Open Source. The OS is awesome but they didn't put any money into hardware. Can you imagine a 4 in+ HTC device running WebOS? That would be awesome. The software is awesome but the hardware, marketing and acquisitions direction was horrible.
The purchased may have been for the patents since it was a steal. If we are lucky Google makes an offer they can't refuse on those patents.
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$99 new price starting tomorrow
I should buy like 3 and give out 2 for christmas.
Wow Epic Fail. Maybe I should buy .one for modding purposes.
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Funny that the processor and gpu are great, seriously. It's a slight variation on the Qualcomm in the HTC Sensation/Evo3d, and I'm not sure there's anything in the mobile market (released) that outdoes the Adreno 220.
TouchPad fire sale at $100 (sold out for now)
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3220862
In the thread, people are buying them by the dozens, no doubt to fleabay them afterward. If you want one, be fast.
Does anyone know if Netflix is on this (homebrew/exploit/etc.) this would a partial dealbreaker (although I already bought it)?
I ended up ordering two 32gb TouchPads, the total cost came to $269, I could not go wrong for $134.50 for a device priced at $599 not even a year ago? It looks like they are all gone on HP's site now though.
the specs of the touchpad are not that impressive plus it boots very slow.. and its webOS not Android..and its the heaviest slate around !!
you can get an Android based tablet with the same specs for a better price.. unless someone ports Android to touchpad and HP will sell it for $150 or lower then it would worth spending the money on it.
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..and its the heaviest slate around !!.
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You mean theres a slate heavier than the Xoom??
Compatible with existing docks and will have ICS.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/42382/asus-eee-pad-transformer-2
Ha I just got this info myself from another source that will not mention here...
Dang glad i didn't buy one now.... cause I did find a B60 in my area..and had them put it aside..for this week...
http://tablets-planet.com/2011/10/0...t-will-be-499-no-price-cut-for-transformer-1/
well isnt that just great. Ive had mine for one day. A quad core? Damn!
this is all well and good but im still gonna keep my tf1 with a smile. im sure ICS will be on the tf1 shortly after its available. not worried
Ditto - I can't see quad core being necessary for some time to come. I'll upgrade next year.... when it's six or 8 core for the same price
I think it would make sense for Asus to ditch Android and wait for Windows 8...
Sorry, but I think Windows 8 > Android Honeycomb.
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I think it would make sense for Asus to ditch Android and wait for Windows 8...
Sorry, but I think Windows 8 > Android Honeycomb.
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Wow win 8 ok... I'm def buying one or two.
would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!
Windows 8 <<<< Give me a break
I would wait for the TF2.... think about it Quad Core<<<<
how was the build quality of the first gen compared to samsung products?
I can say the TF3 will be out in June of 2012 too, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen. This is the beginning of media hype. The same thing happened with the original Transformer as well. How many months was it until we had a concrete date, much less hardware in hand? For god sakes, they were showing off hardware 3+ months before it hit stores! Having the CEO say they're preparing, is like me saying I'm preparing for Christmas now.
When we have a date, fine, post threads. But until we have a date, whats the point of having thread, after thread, after thread with every little stupid article about the TF2? It's all hype and nothing more.
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how was the build quality of the first gen compared to samsung products?
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It was sorta a crapshoot. In a way...I mean, as you probably are well aware, the people that got bad units (or are just too picky when it comes to backlight bleed) complained the loudest. When you consider the fact that they were selling 100k+ per month, having even 100 people complaining is still only 0.1%. Outside of that, I feel it's good. I have a B50 unit (not one of the even older B40 units) and it's build really solid, I can't complain unless I expect everything to be better than perfect.
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would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!
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If you're after the looks, why not try the ipad 2? I don't even ow why people will buy the tab for $500.
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would you's recommend i wait for this or go for the galaxy tab 10.1? I really like the docking keyboard but i also like the look of tab 10.1. thanks!
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If you can find a B60 or below tab I'd go for it. B70 series are hit and miss when it comes to being able to root. Even if you NEVER root it, it's good to have the option IMO.
Quad-core? Not necessary for functioning apps at present. The dual-core TF1 performs beautifully. "Less is More" axiom applies here I believe.
I'd jump to the quad-core ONLY if dual boot with Win8 were an option. Never been a gamer so playing games mean diddly to me. (Win8 option would help with work interface).
Its not going to be thinner? Different Color? More aesthetically pleasing w/ a new dock to match? Only hardware is the difference?
I am dissapoint. I was really hoping that they would have created a more badass version of the TF2. They might as well just called it the TF1S and saved the TF2 monicker for the real deal.
I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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Windows 8 should be able to run on Tegra 2 so we should have the dual boot capability on the TF1.
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I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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source?
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I honestly think Asus, like Lenovo, are going to be in the Tablet races a long time. However, I think the tablets running Android will be short lived. I want a fully featured, robust, heavily developed OS. Windows 8 is just that. If anyone is not excited about Windows 8 competing with Android, then they are not excited for any innovation.
The Transformer 2 will most likely run Windows 8.
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It won't. It will run IceCream Sandwhich. - If there is one thing I've learned it is to take all posts with a grain of salt. Usually it's peoples' personal opinions or prefrences instead of facts.
http://androidcommunity.com/asus-ee...ice-cream-sandwich-expected-in-q3q4-20110623/
If it doesn't have digitizer stylus I'll pass. I need the tablet for taking hadwritten notes at work, Transformer 1 is not good for it.
multiple places are reporting that the CEO of Asus has stated that transformer 2 will be coming out shortly (meaning by the end of the month or early next month).
http://androidandme.com/2011/10/news/asus-the-fire-isnt-hot-enough-transformer-2-going-for-499/
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobil...nd-gen-eee-pad-transformer-on-the-way-1031351
however, the price point says $499...hopefully they are referring to the 32GB model and not the 16GB model. I was really hoping to get this as soon as it came out but if 16GB is at $499..i might wait until closer towards the end of the year to hopefully get a better deal on it once samsung and others come out with their kal-el models.
I'm on my second Xoom in a year. I bought a WiFi only model, sold it and grabbed a 4G/LTE version 6 moths ago. Yes, even with all the new tablets out or on their way late last year, I still felt the Xoom was the best Android tablet available with 4G connectivity.The build quality and lack of annoyances (reboots for no reason, slow WiFi connect, bad GPS, etc) that are found on other Android tablets still make the Xoom a really nice option.
I've owned or used Acer tablets, Asus tablets, Toshiba tablets, Samsung tablets, Apple tablets, E-locity tablets and the Xoom. Hands down the Xoom is still my favorite and a year later I feel good every time I use it. I guess initially cost held consumers away from Motorola tablets, which is a shame, because outside of the loving the IPS screen on my Asus Tranformer I pick up my Xoom every time hands down because;
Build quality is better
WiFi is better
Speakers are better
GPS is better
No random reboots
I'm a Motorola fan from phones to tablets and it's a shame the Xoom hasn't commanded the respect and following I think it deserves for being solid Android tablet choice. I'm very happy with mine and hope to continue to get use for work and play out of it for a few more years before trading up.
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I'm on my second Xoom in a year. I bought a WiFi only model, sold it and grabbed a 4G/LTE version 6 moths ago. Yes, even with all the new tablets out or on their way late last year, I still felt the Xoom was the best Android tablet available with 4G connectivity.The build quality and lack of annoyances (reboots for no reason, slow WiFi connect, bad GPS, etc) that are found on other Android tablets still make the Xoom a really nice option.
I've owned or used Acer tablets, Asus tablets, Toshiba tablets, Samsung tablets, Apple tablets, E-locity tablets and the Xoom. Hands down the Xoom is still my favorite and a year later I feel good every time I use it. I guess initially cost held consumers away from Motorola tablets, which is a shame, because outside of the loving the IPS screen on my Asus Tranformer I pick up my Xoom every time hands down because;
Build quality is better
WiFi is better
Speakers are better
GPS is better
No random reboots
I'm a Motorola fan from phones to tablets and it's a shame the Xoom hasn't commanded the respect and following I think it deserves for being solid Android tablet choice. I'm very happy with mine and hope to continue to get use for work and play out of it for a few more years before trading up.
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Now that the Xoom is over a year old and the prices have come down so much, I love being able to tell people that my Xoom holds its own with newer tablets twice its price...and it does!
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Now that the Xoom is over a year old and the prices have come down so much, I love being able to tell people that my Xoom holds its own with newer tablets twice its price...and it does!
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this.....i visit a lot of forums and people always ask whats the best tablet, and no one ever mentions the xoom. so i chime in and ask "what can your tablet do, that mines can't?". I never get an honest answer. The xoom is still one of the best tabs on the market. Even though we dont have full sd card support, or you have to root to enbale usb devices, i still dont find those things bothersome. With a 64gb card installed, why would i need to worry about deleting something from it, attaching an additional hard drive?
I have to admit that other than the Kindle Fire, there isn't an android or apple tablet I would rather have. The Kindle Fire is attractive to me because of the way you can access ALL of the Kindle library content and magazine subscriptions. I also really enjoy the Amazon Instant Video capabilities. Overall, it's just the best portable media device for people who pay for stuff
I still kinda hate my Xoom but there isn't a tablet I would rather have other than something running Windows 8. When Microsoft releases Office for Android, I will probably either keep this device forever or dump it for something lighter that runs Windows 8. I can and do get a lot done with this thing. My husband always comments that I take it everywhere and use it for everything. (I feel that I spent a lot of money on it and should expect to get a lot out of it.)
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I have to admit that other than the Kindle Fire, there isn't an android or apple tablet I would rather have. The Kindle Fire is attractive to me because of the way you can access ALL of the Kindle library content and magazine subscriptions. I also really enjoy the Amazon Instant Video capabilities. Overall, it's just the best portable media device for people who pay for stuff
I still kinda hate my Xoom but there isn't a tablet I would rather have other than something running Windows 8. When Microsoft releases Office for Android, I will probably either keep this device forever or dump it for something lighter that runs Windows 8. I can and do get a lot done with this thing. My husband always comments that I take it everywhere and use it for everything. (I feel that I spent a lot of money on it and should expect to get a lot out of it.)
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Yes, I remember that you were really unhappy with it at some point, but I'm glad to hear that it's been and still is useful to you.
I love, love, love mine, still. Even more than before because it does everything I need and more.
It does hold its own!
So a friend of mine recently got the "new" ipad, or ipad 3... or whatever... One day we sat down together to take some notes and he shows off his new ipad wi-fi and said:
Hey, mine's got a retina display with 1536 x 2048 screen resolution...
So I said... Well, my Xoom's got expandable storage above the 32gb on board memory, flash support in a fantastic browser, A-GPS support, Java MIDP emulator, a 2mp front facing camera, dual band wi-fi hotspot, stereo speakers, oh... and bluetooth that works with pretty much every other device out there...
So he said... well, at least mine's got a higher ppi pixel density...
I just smiled!
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Yes, I remember that you were really unhappy with it at some point, but I'm glad to hear that it's been and still is useful to you.
I love, love, love mine, still. Even more than before because it does everything I need and more.
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Yeah it is, thank you Okantomi. I squeeze everything I can get out of it. What do I do with mine? Typed & handwritten notes for class and work (plus annotated drawings FreeNote is great for that,) scan documents to PDF and sometimes use as an OCR, present PowerPoint briefings (awkward HDMI setup required but it's better than nothing.) While surveying a new event site, I use the camera to take pictures of those building evacuation diagrams, save them as PDF. I then take pictures in the venue with the camera and put those in the same PDF. Using my PDF editor, I can bookmark those pictures in the PDF with the floor plan which lets me create kind of a site familiarization document/way finding tool almost on the fly. If I had a panorama viewer and could put my own buildings on other models in the Android version of Google Earth, I could get almost everything done before I even got back to the office.
I also use AutoCAD WS when the CAD data is available and ESRI ArcView to check some of my mapping stuff (our GPS is a little coarse but it's workable.) I can't integrate CAD into a PDF on the Xoom but the point is that this device that I paid a few hundred dollars for can do almost everything my $2100 Windows 7 tablet can do. It's awesome but not almost 3-4 times the price awesome. It's a shame that they couldn't really make the XYboard a step forward. Come to think of it the Droid2 was only faster than the original Droid (which I wish I had a phone that was just like it but faster. Maybe I'll feel that way about my Xoom in a year?
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Hands down the xoom is the best overall tablet I've owned. I've went through a gtab 10.1, flyer, playbook and about 3 nonames before my xoom. I just can't understand why almost no other company can't make a good tablet like Motorola can.
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Motorola did a great job on the Xyboard as well. I would never own it because it's not a Google Experience Device, but a friend of mine has the DROID Xyboard 10.1 and I love using his. Motorola's customizations are minimal, Honeycomb runs smooth as butter on it, and some of the features are outstanding. Motocast is really cool, as is Dijit. The Xyboard has built-in infrared hardware that allows the tablet (using the Dijit app) to act as a universal remote control to control your TV, cable box, receiver, whatever.
Plus, let's be honest, who builds a tablet sturdier than Motorola does? Everything they build from phones to tablets to two-way radios are built like a brick ****house.
I feel the xoom is still comparable to today's tablets. I proudly use my wingray as a daily driver.
And I honestly don't understand why some people focus on size and weight so much. The Xoom is a little chubby compared to many other tablets, but it certainly isn't fat. And the xoom isn't much heavier than most other tablets either. Yet the xoom can do the same things, if not more things than the other tablets.
Now that isn't to say the xoom is a perfect tablet (it has a couple flaws), and it isn't to say all other tablets aren't as good, its just like others have said, the xoom should be recognized more today.
And performance-wise, the Xyboard may not have superseded the xoom in terms of performance, but for the people who need a tablet, it is a solid choice.
Recently when I went looking for a Tab, I had the chance to try out most of the new stuff that's out today. After mulling it over, and doing a little research, the choice was really pretty easy for me. Being a fan of GED devices, the Xoom, even though not the newest and flashiest Tab, was still my choice.
I couldn't be happier with my Xoom. I use it daily for many needs, and don't see that changing anytime soon.
Long live the Xoom
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Plus, let's be honest, who builds a tablet sturdier than Motorola does? Everything they build from phones to tablets to two-way radios are built like a brick ****house.
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^^^this. imo, motorola has the best build quality of all the devices ive owned, dating back to the star tac. htc is a close 2nd
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Plus, let's be honest, who builds a tablet sturdier than Motorola does? Everything they build from phones to tablets to two-way radios are built like a brick ****house.
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Don't tell me you were there that day the Xoom and I hit the concrete...
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Don't tell me you were there that day the Xoom and I hit the concrete...
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And would the Xoom that hit the concrete be the same Xoom you typed this post on? I love when other people make my point for me!
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I use my GED WiFi Xoom everyday and still love it a year later (got it day one). I also have a Playbook & HTC EVO VIEW 4G & use the XOOM alot more than the other 2 combined. I find myself defending the XOOM on Engadget quite frequently as the fanboys there say it's a major fail. I tell them Xoom can do anything their own Tablets can do (even Delete files/folders using SDCARDXD from Google Play) and I could not be happier. Plus unlike my other tablets the Xoom can use Ad-Hoc and connect to my Photon's Bluetooth for Internet connectivity
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... who builds a tablet sturdier than Motorola does? Everything they build from phones to tablets to two-way radios are built like a brick ****house.
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^ THIS. If Ninjas pop up outta the shadows I suspect I could take out a couple if I have my Xoom nearby
Until an unlockable, WAN-enabled, quad-core 10" Android tablet shows up for sale here in the States, my Xoom is my daily-driver (and will likely be my kick-around tablet even then). ICS and the custom ROMs (full disclosure: I help produce one) make this old tablet even more useful than when I got it, two days after launch day- and I own few electronic items that I can say that about.
Call me bias, Motorola the inventor of cell phone, an American company, all of my life I live in these united states of America the mother of higher learning period. Why in hell would I buy a tech gadget that was made by an inferior mind, there is a reason why all other nation send their logger heads here...again call me bias because I am, Oh yeah in anticipation of the Verizon updates I revert back to 3.2.1 HC..
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Don't tell me you were there that day the Xoom and I hit the concrete...<br />
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And would the Xoom that hit the concrete be the same Xoom you typed this post on? I love when other people make my point for me! <br />
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I can neither confirm nor deny that this is the same Xoom as the authorities are looking for a flat metallic object that was involved in an assault and battery that very day (just kidding, I hit like a girl.)
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Week one Xoom owner here. It's only gotten better with age and I still wouldn't trade it for any other tablet on the market.
I'm glad that your enjoying your Xoom and its treating you well.
Despite any up sides you have stated, build quality, screen and excellent battery life I have been over all a bit disappointed. I was originally very very happy when I got it but over time I have noticed there is a considerable amount of lagg constantly. Despite rooting and using EOS European 3g rom including over clock it seems to make no difference. Bit of a shame really but other than the pain in the ass lagg its a excellent tablet. Wouldn't buy one again but I'm not gutted I did either
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The Motorola Xoom. Of all android tablets, it was the experiment; the first ever of its kind. Winner of Best Of Show at CES 2011. Pioneer of Android Honeycomb. I bought this spectacle of computing technology the day it came out in the US, on March 27th, 2011. While I was watching loads of coverage from CES, and even afterwards, I anticipated what the Xoom would be like. Proponents of it were saying it would be great, that it would be able to keep up with the iPad. Critics of the Xoom, and android alike, were saying it was inferior, and would not get many sales. When I finally got my hands on one, (the last one in stock for a few days at my local Staples), I was blown away. Of course, there were few apps for it at first, but I am a patient person and knew more apps would come for it in the future. For months, I used it daily, along side my laptop. I tethered it to my Droid 2 (also Motorola ), which I had a grandfathered unlimited data plan. I took it with me as much as I could, and used it at school daily. I look back on that time and chuckle at myself; I stayed on the stock ROM, since I was afraid to flash/unlock bootloader/etc. Once I got enough courage to do it, I realized that my Motorola Xoom could do so much more. More months went by, and more tablets came out. The Galaxy Tab. Asus Transformer. HTC Flyer. Motorola Droid Xyboard. I realized how much more technology was seemed (and advertised) to have been put in these; however, I looked at my Xoom, and saw that it was keeping up. Even the processors of new tablets were increasingly better, but the Xoom (and it's workhorse Tegra 2) was staying in the game. My stock rooted honeycomb was still a daily driver, months and months after it came out. Even with the introduction of quad core android tablets, like the Transformer Prime, Xoom was staying around. And then i experienced TeamEOS. It was the first ROM i flashed for my xoom. TeamEOS's ICS rom. Faster than ever before, I was overjoyed that my Xoom had new life. Fast forward to now, with the introduction of Jellybean. The Xoom is still one of the very first devices to receive the OTA. This shows that the Xoom will still be at the front of Android tablet technology for a very long time.
tl;dr: The Motorola Xoom, which I bought on day 1, is still one of THE best Android tablets in the world. Mine runs TeamEOS 3.0 Nightlies, and will for a very long time.
I love my Xoom and TeamEOS :good::laugh:
Thanks for all the work guys!
PS. I flashed TeamEOS the first day I received my Xoom.
realistically though, I give the Xoom a year to a year and a half before it starts becoming obsolete
all I can say is, I love my xoom.
But I´m a little dissapointed with moto´s customer/update service.
I know you guys in the US got the official ICS update long ago.
I´m from germany and we have the mz601 aka the Euro 3g/umts version with mobile data.
The only official update we got was from 3.1 to 3.2.HC.
We would be totaly screwed if there was no Team EOS.
EOS releasing the latest JellyBean Nightlys for the euro model gives me 4.1 before official moto even rolled out ICS over here.
Considering the xoom got hyped and is still considered as a Google Experience Device this kinda sucks.
Anyway, since Team EOS is around, I´m a happy xoom owner and I see the hardware nowhere near its limits, leaving plenty of room
for performance upgrades with upcoming android releases or dev tweaks.
A very good review - I fell in love with the Xoom based upon the CES show and knew I needed one - and one I bought.
I bght the WiFi only one, the plucked up the courage to root and there has been no looking back. I recently bought a second hand 3G Xoom and gave my WiFi one to my younger brother and we are an unstoppable force.
This device really exceeded my expectations and truly has kept up - I do however wish that Motorola had provided these updates - who nows they could offer the developers on here programmer and developer jobs - then we would see fast worldwide updates.
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I agree. I use my Xoom everyday and I love it. I didn't think I needed a tablet until I got my Xoom. I am also running Team EOS and love it.
Excellent post from OP, my wife say she has to compete with the Xoom for my attention..
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Excellent post from OP, my wife say she has to compete with the Xoom for my attention..
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My family says the same thing...
Probably the most disregarded and underrated tablet out there. Love ICS on it waiting for a stock jellybean before I root it.
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I bought my WiFi Xoom the day they went on sale & use it everyday. I have not rooted mine yet as stock ICS (soon to be stock JB) work fine for me. The Xoom has a fantastic build & having a GED unit can't be beat. I have no need for any other Android Tablets. The next Tablet for me will be the Surface Pro.
I concur! I've never figured out why it has been panned by so many critics though! I never thought I'd use it for more than e-books originally but the VERY first time I saw it at Costco (and just happened to have my tax refund in my pocket) I instantly got it (3G/WiFi). I use it everyday, more than I thought I ever would. I'm a web designer and I actually find that showing my designs to clients works very well and I hardly ever bring my Mac Book Pro to meetings.
I think I'll be using my Xoom for a long time still. A couple of times I thought about getting something newer but every time I find my Xoom matches or beats the alternatives.
(And yes I do read a lot of e-books on it!)
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Part of my initial beef with the launch of and the way this device was being handled was that I saw the potential for this device and jumped on it immediately. The lack of LTE until 6 months after launch made me want to punch the responsible party in the throat. I was fairly disappointed about the way USB and SD cards are being handled but am pretty confident in the community's ability to improve that. I think it sucks that their efforts are being wasted on what should be core functionality instead of cutting edge things this device was meant for.
I have run this device hard and hung it up wet. I believe that I have gotten my money's worth. I use this thing everyday. It isn't quite the geospatial data collection tool I had envisioned it being but I blame most of that on my hatred of the cloud and failings as a developer who can't really do much from scratch. Once ESRI fleshed out its Android API, I'll be able to adjust my vectors via my tablet.
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after having mine for 12 days now the only thing i don't like about it is the location of the speakers
and that's it, everything about it is just simply great, i could not have gotten a better tablet
I think the speakers on the Xoom are better than most speakers of tablets/phones
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I think the speakers on the Xoom are better than most speakers of tablets/phones
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I think you are right!
I was actually surprised how good the speakers on the xoom sounded. like, really surprised
yeah, xoom has 2 speakers... its great for movies, especially since i always lose my earphones...
I've got a confession to make. I just got my new 16 GB Nexus 7 today. As always, these things are fun to unbox and play with, but I can already tell it's not as nice as my Xoom. Perhaps things will change over time but, if pressed, I'd keep the Xoom over the Nexus.
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I've got a confession to make. I just got my new 16 GB Nexus 7 today. As always, these things are fun to unbox and play with, but I can already tell it's not as nice as my Xoom. Perhaps things will change over time but, if pressed, I'd keep the Xoom over the Nexus.
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How is the speed on the N7, compared to the Xoom? Like, overall UI and game performance
I bought two of the 32gb WiFi versions last Christmas. I use my Xoom daily and I love it. Probably the greatest thing among many excellent points about the device is battery life. It may be chunkier than most tabs but it's got one of the largest batteries of any tablet.
Being a GED, it's still a solid choice for those in the market for a tablet. Refurbs can be had cheap making them a real bargain.
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