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So the iPad 2 is suppose to compete with XOOM?

From what I have gathered (sources below), the iPad 2 doesn't look to be that good of a match to the XOOM. Here are a few highlights, for those of you (like me) were curious about the competition and/or were looking for confidence in our purchase.
Screen:
XOOM: 10.1 inch, 1280x800 at 150-ppi (720p)
iPad 2: 9.7 inch, 1024x768 at 132-ppi (720p) Note: No retina-display
For 3G Version:
XOOM: Upgradable to 4G (LTE)
iPad 2: Stuck with 3G apparently
Front Camera:
XOOM: 2MP
iPad 2: VGA.. really??
That's just a few specs that caught my eye and made me smile. That's not to say the iPad 2 is a bad choice, hell at approx 8.8mm thin (33% thinner than iPad), to pack all that power into that is impressive to say the least.
While Apple is a solid performer, and their software "works", I'm an Android fan, and am thankful now that I joined the XOOM club. More customizations and such make the OS unique. Despite all the riff-raff going on about the Bugs, issues, and disappointments of the XOOM - most of these will be fixed or improved most likely over time through software updates (Like the OG Droid).
None-the-less, just some more info to keep on top of the recent market of technology.
Sources:
iPad 2: From the apple website, under iPad 2, specs.
XOOM: Motorola website specs.
(Sorry, XDA wont allow me to post links, tis my first post)

What's the over/under on new iPad2 threads created today that are all virtually the same?
I'll set it at 15.

Jrockttu said:
What's the over/under on new iPad2 threads created today that are all virtually the same?
I'll set it at 15.
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i'll take the over, haha.
if you feel like ranting, sharing your sage wisdom, bi&%$ng or anything else about the ipad2, we need only 1 thread for this. this is why i hate the general forum.

I think the title is wrong. Is the Xoom supposed to compete with the iPad?

Without the apps (which I'm now finally realizing is so important) the Xoom will never "beat" the iPad. I've noticed everywhere, in all the reviews, all the people, blah.. that everyone needs apps. Without these apps Android tablets will never be true competitors.
I think..

Eclair~ said:
Without the apps (which I'm now finally realizing is so important) the Xoom will never "beat" the iPad. I've noticed everywhere, in all the reviews, all the people, blah.. that everyone needs apps. Without these apps Android tablets will never be true competitors.
I think..
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Apps, Brand Recognition, Brand Awareness, Social Status, its a lot of things.

Eclair~ said:
Without the apps (which I'm now finally realizing is so important) the Xoom will never "beat" the iPad. I've noticed everywhere, in all the reviews, all the people, blah.. that everyone needs apps. Without these apps Android tablets will never be true competitors.
I think..
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Yes, but as an early adopter thats to be expected. the iPad didn't launch with 65,000 apps, that was built up over the past year. Time will fix that. Just like Android took over the phone market, it will take over the tablet market. Strength in numbers.

Yeah, the iPad launched with 2000 not 6 like the Xoom.

almostinsane said:
Yeah, the iPad launched with 2000 not 6 like the Xoom.
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Yeah but as I recall there were a lot of duplicates, and I really came to dislike the 2x iPhone apps - couldn't wait to get rid of. One thing that I keep coming back to - the big selling point for the iPad was it offered a "new user experience" and even tho I was a longtime Apple hater I ended up getting iPad and had to admit I liked the new experience although I don't like the iTunes tether and got tired of IOS limitations. But nevertheless 15 million people ended up buying into the "experience" and now, for XOOM or any other competitor to succeed they have to offer a better experience. Earlier Android tablets weren't able to but I think the XOOM will.... when it finally gets finished .... and some real apps. But with the I pad 2 released the media hype is focused on it so Google and Adobe better move fast!

almostinsane said:
Yeah, the iPad launched with 2000 not 6 like the Xoom.
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I was an early adopter of the first ipad. And it was just as weak with apps. There were almost no quality apps out of those 2000. Atleast there are already a few sweet games that take advantage of the system and plenty more to come. Mix that with the vector graphics of a lot of android apps and it isn't too shabby at all. Atleast we don't have to deal with that "2x" crap with ios.
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And the good Apps that the iPad did have on release were $10 on average. Most were 2x of existing Apps = crap.
Give the xoom time to catch up.
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I just gave every thread with the word iPad a one star...
It felt good.
That is all

colbyb25 said:
I was an early adopter of the first ipad. And it was just as weak with apps. There were almost no quality apps out of those 2000. Atleast there are already a few sweet games that take advantage of the system and plenty more to come. Mix that with the vector graphics of a lot of android apps and it isn't too shabby at all. Atleast we don't have to deal with that "2x" crap with ios.
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I had an ipad on release day.
Netflix, iwork suite...
The apps have always been really good on the ipad.
Google needs to entice big devs to port stuff to android.
We need open office on android....netflix is pretty much a requirement too.
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buy a game on app store for $10. Play game and you find out it sucks, $10 wasted.
Same scenario on android, just press the refund button lololololololol...
I am tird of all this stupid apple talk........

clandest said:
buy a game on app store for $10. Play game and you find out it sucks, $10 wasted.
Same scenario on android, just press the refund button lololololololol...
I am tird of all this stupid apple talk........
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The Apple talk will be gone with time. Everyone was really anticipation the iPad 2, even Android followers. We were waiting to see what Apple would do. And now since they have revealed it, of course everyone in the tech community has to discuss it.

techs1200 said:
I had an ipad on release day.
Netflix, iwork suite...
The apps have always been really good on the ipad.
Google needs to entice big devs to port stuff to android.
We need open office on android....netflix is pretty much a requirement too.
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It's been out for a couple of days. It was almost impossible to develop for honeycomb before it came out because of the emulator being so slow. Just be patient.

Think we can all agree this has been said already.
THread closed.

Crossed over to the dark side

Found a 16GB wifi ipad on cl today for 250 bucks. I said screw it and tried it. I love android. I'm a fanboy through and through, but dammit if this ipad just doesn't do everything smooth as butter. Really puts my tab to shame. I fear for Android in the tablet market....I don't think it can compete.

So your selling your tab?
Sgs Vibrant ::
Bionix 1.3.1
Dragon kernel v5 1.4oc
Voodoo lagfix, sound, color
Sg Tab [Tmo] ::
Overcome v1.2.1
1.4oc kernel
Voodoo lagfix, sound

Funny how i am experiencing a direct opposite situation. Had an ipad, got a good deal for the tab, and now loving the tab to bits even if its still a work in progress.

What customizations and tweaking have you done,
oh wait...
and if you are selling your tab id be happy to buy it, i could carry one in each pocket, can you? trolloolololol

natious said:
What customizations and tweaking have you done,
oh wait...
and if you are selling your tab id be happy to buy it, i could carry one in each pocket, can you? trolloolololol
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Jail breaking is pretty much the same as rooting. What a null argument.

You realise that posting this here is just asking for trolls, right? And the iPad does not do everything smoother (yes, I know this to be true, I own an iPad too).
Anyhoo, Android 2.2/2.3 can't compete on 10.1" tablets, but Android 3 most certainly can.

What the iPad does, it does very well indeed. However, what it doesn't do is fit in a jacket pocket, which makes my Tab a superior device for *my* purposes.
I shouldn't worry too much about Android tablets though - if you really want to compare, we should probably wait for the Tab 10.1 or 8.9 running Honeycomb and then see, because IMO the Tab 7 is a different class of device to the iPad.
FWIW, if someone offered me an iPad for $250, I'd almost certainly have bought it too - for my wife!
Regards,
Dave

lockheedload said:
Jail breaking is pretty much the same as rooting. What a null argument.
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Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...

natious said:
Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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Could say the same about the other way around you know. For example try to use the proxy settings, or the vpn one. Gingerbread and honeycomb i dunno, but donut to froyo can't handle those properly... iOS did it for years.
In the end it's all about what you need: fast and reliable? iOS. Customization/choice? Android. Also an iOS device will become obsolete in a lot more time than an Android one, my iPhone3g will be obsolete when iOS 4.3 will be released. Any Android will be obsolete in a few months and have to rely on the community to keep on getting updates, for sure you aren't going to see updates after 2 newer models are released and a third one is shaping at the horizon.
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natious said:
Jailbreaking, lol.
It doesn't even compare, all the things you can do on a jailbroken iDevice you can do on a non rooted Droid.
swyped from a galaxy far far away...
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No, you can't. I'm not even going to argue with you on the numerous scenarios either. You've shown your cards already....

thats a good deal, i had a 16gb and 64gb wifi and sold both them.. looking to get the ipad 2 now. still keeping my galaxy tab because >> ipad 1 and 2 lol

Is just a mather of tast...
I like homemade soup, my kids out of bag...
(they sell soup here in bags btw)
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u can buy soup in a bag?

I had an ipad as well. I really liked it till I got a tab. It's a matter of size, customization and functionality to me. I like the ability to customize my technology (whatever it is) to work the way I do. The ipads interface and apps just didn't allow me to work the way I want.
In the end, I gave it to my daughter. She loves it to death. I attribute this to the fact that she doesn't do a whole lot of thinking.
The ipad is pretty much a perfect facebook companion.
EDIT: I just talked to my daughter, and she's back to her (windows 7) laptop for facebook. Something about the ipad not being able to do anything with pictures from her camera. She asked me if the tab had a card slot and I told her it did. She then asked if she could trade the ipad for my tab. I laughed. So, I'm getting the ipad back, tossing it on fleabay, and getting another tab.
No sd or microsd on the ipad? I didn't even notice that, as I only used it for a few days before I gave it to her. I just looked, and there's none on the ipad 2 either? Lol. In the ipad 3 or 4, maybe steve jobs can get one of his cronies to add a microsd socket, and he can charge for every file that gets transferred from or to it. lol.
My kids are all very, very tech savvy. It says a lot to me that they don't want an ipad even when it's *given* to them.

he is right Ipad is nicer piece of hardware...but that it.
he is right Ipad is nicer piece of hardware...but that it.
my son(macbook/ipad/iphone3gs) and daughter (macbook/ipod)are mac kids.
The devices are beutifull and well made...and run like butta!
My problem is with apple and the hold they have on the software.
Flash is a must (now not in 5years) and I love the fact that developers give you otions on what you want to run on a device you paid for - With android.
itunes is cool but you are stuck with the ios device...even after you spend all the cash for movies and music...only ios can play!
Hell no... I am an american and freedom is the american way.
Death to S. Jobs. (maybe not death...at least a sprained ankle.)
ANDROID FO LIFE!

DudeInMyrtleBeach said:
I had an ipad as well. I really liked it till I got a tab. It's a matter of size, customization and functionality to me. I like the ability to customize my technology (whatever it is) to work the way I do. The ipads interface and apps just didn't allow me to work the way I want.
In the end, I gave it to my daughter. She loves it to death. I attribute this to the fact that she doesn't do a whole lot of thinking.
The ipad is pretty much a perfect facebook companion.
EDIT: I just talked to my daughter, and she's back to her (windows 7) laptop for facebook. Something about the ipad not being able to do anything with pictures from her camera. She asked me if the tab had a card slot and I told her it did. She then asked if she could trade the ipad for my tab. I laughed. So, I'm getting the ipad back, tossing it on fleabay, and getting another tab.
No sd or microsd on the ipad? I didn't even notice that, as I only used it for a few days before I gave it to her. I just looked, and there's none on the ipad 2 either? Lol. In the ipad 3 or 4, maybe steve jobs can get one of his cronies to add a microsd socket, and he can charge for every file that gets transferred from or to it. lol.
My kids are all very, very tech savvy. It says a lot to me that they don't want an ipad even when it's *given* to them.
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ipad 2 has the .03 megapixel camera, tell her she doesnt need her camera any more hahahahahahah

I'm also going to share my thoughts.
I actually have a Nook Color - But it's comparable to the tab (dont decapitate me.. ).
I like iOs, because it's simple and always works. I still have to reinstall it every 6 months, because I somehow always manage to junk it so full, that it actually doesn't work anymore. (jailbreak etc.).
What I don't like about iOs, that you have to jailbreak it so you can customize it, but you can't customize a lot and what I'm also missing are basic widgets.
What i like about Apple products is that they are very well designed, also robust and nice looking (always). My Ipod3G fell down about 30-50 times, and nothing broke (i also have a case).
What I like most about Apple products has actually nothing to do with the device itself:
With apple products one always gets a huge community support, enabling the jailbreak, and making great cydia apps that allow you to make your device finally yours.
and second off course the apps, iOs has got really great apps, and all of them are functioning. Steve Jobs proudly said that there are 65.000 apps for the ipad.
I changed over to android, because it fed me up to not being able to update, because otherwise I would lose the Jailbreak, and an iOS-device without jailbreak is like a headphone without cable^^(in****s XD).
What I see as a problem for any android tablet is simply that there are hardly any tablet apps, for an ipad you get music production software and all sorts of fun apps, and for the tab you cant even get a nice mail app in the market ( i use Mail'd though).
I just didnt buy the ipad, because it's to expensiv, too big and I was actually looking for an ereader. But the sad thing is that I haven't found any better use for it, than it being an ereader. With the tab off course you get 3g and a camera and stuff like that, but I really miss tablet optimized apps.
I hope that honeycomb will start to get the developers to make some slick apps, but I dought that there will be a big variety.
By the way, there's that sdcardreader adapter for the ipad, allows you to import fotos to your ipad, the usbrcameradongle, allows you to connect your camera. With a jailbreak you can also mount Usb sticks and Harddrives if they are powered, so if they need extra power, a extra Usb cable you have to provide that otherwise it wont work.

I will never buy an apple product again. I got so irked at them when they purposely released an iOS that made my iPhone completely nonfunctional. Wanna read the news? There's an app for that! *waits 3 minutes to load* *click on article.....crashed to homescreen...* FFFUUUUUUUUUUU
I mean ffs the new iOS made my phone so bad that I couldn't answer calls. The iPhone wasn't even functional as a PHONE.
That and I got sick and tired of having to backup my stupid phone just to add one song.
Don't get me wrong, I know that as the OS advances, it requires more resources but they could have at least gave us a few options to disable the fancy 3d effects and stuff. I'm still stuck on my iphones contract but I got so frustrated that I just got a tab and downgraded the iPhone plan to a dumbphone plan.

I am not an Apple basher as I have been a Mac owner. I had an iPad for 3 weeks and sent it back. It does some things very well and I do feel that it is a little more mature. But I sent it back because it is a big iPod (no flames please), not a real computing device. There are several things that make this or any future version of iPad a non-starter for me.
IOS lacks a true visible file system. The application owns the data and unless an application is written to be aware of other apps, the files are unavailable to other apps, even if they know how to read the file format. Also, deleting the app deletes the data. Sorry, but that is an accident waiting to happen. Unacceptable. Add the absolute control that Apple maintains and I am done. Plus, throw in the size and weight (it is HEAVY).
The Galaxy Tab is a dream come true. Size, weight, performance are perfect. When you can fold the iPad and put it in a coat pocket I will look twice and then probably pass. I might take a picture of it with my Galaxy Tab.

watching apple vs android is almost similar like watching republic vs democrat no offense intended
i never own any apple products though, but i've seen some from my friends
nice hardware, yes, but thats it
the gui is so blah made me not interested in iOS at all
and what makes me hate iOS more is the cockyness of their ifan
I once told my friend that i want to buy htc smartphone when he squirk and laugh at me and said "Dude, you have the money, why would you buy an "HTC" phone when you can get all the prestige using "iPhone"?"
that alone makes me skyrocketing into apple hater
I better spend my money on a device that gave me feature and freedom instead of being a dog and woof to every little thing Steve Jobs point at
and that video from conan about Ipad 2 was blast ^^
but still, a person's choice is very well their own rights, and we have to respect that
fare thee well my bro, who crossed over to the dark side
wish you all the best

Reasons for a Tablet

For a long time I didn't see a reason for me to purchase a tablet. The only use I can think of right now is for me to have more access to my files on a bigger screen via dropbox.
That said, I still reaaaaally want a Xoom, but it's not a good enough reason for me to drop $800+ (Xoom+accessories) since my phone can do the same thing, except on a smaller screen.
Yes, there is the multimedia portion; videos and whatnot but again, what else are tablets used for? I'm not an artist either so the drawing/sketching capabilities do not apply to me.
So hence my question, what do you guys use your tablets for?
Also, do phone applications work on tablets or do tablets have their own set of applications? How is the resolution of the apps if tablets can use the same apps that phones use?
Cheers!

I like this thing, but it's definitely a toy. If I hadn't gotten a great deal on it, I would have been disappointed. Functionality is not what I'd hoped, and browsing the internet is painful at best. I wouldn't dream of using it for serious work. In a few years these will be "useful," but for now it's still just a toy.

It seems like you have your mind made up. I use mines for:
Browsing
YouTube
Gaming
Emulators
Remote Desktop
Texting
Video Editing
Reference
School
Emailing
And a whole bunch of other things. I traded my iPad 2 for it and don't regret it one bit. More appps are coming to Android and are tablet friendly. You can run phone apps also. I haven't even rooted mines yet and if I did the list would be even bigger.
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slack04 said:
I like this thing, but it's definitely a toy. If I hadn't gotten a great deal on it, I would have been disappointed. Functionality is not what I'd hoped, and browsing the internet is painful at best. I wouldn't dream of using it for serious work. In a few years these will be "useful," but for now it's still just a toy.
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I use mine for several things, but the major thing for which my phone would be completely inadequate is that I teach Bible class on Sunday mornings from my tablet. My tablet is wifi only so I cannot speak for those who can haul theirs with them all the time and get 3g on it.
Generally speaking, Android phone apps will work on an Android tablet. Some apps need to be updated for newer versions of Android, especially Honeycomb, and will force close. Some phone apps will not expand to fill the screen but will only take up a small portion of it. Some apps will fill the screen automatically and the resolution looks fine. Some apps will fill the screen but they look odd. It is a trial and error "test it and see" matter. There are also apps that have be designed or redesigned just for tablets. Most tablet apps will say "for Honeycomb" or "HD" (High Definition) or "for tablets" in their names, but this is not always the case. The Market does have a special section of featured tablet apps and you can find many more by searching on "Honeycomb" or "Tablet."

If you don't want to pay for a Xoom, look into the Iconia A500 like I did. It's very similar, but only costs $450
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I actually think browsing the net is the best thing it does. Quick controls and thumb keyboard make it very fast. Use something like pulse and it's a media consumers dream.

I got my 3G Verizon Xoom on eBay for $490 shipped... I wouldn't pay regular price either.
At the end of the day... it IS just a toy, but it is definitely closer to a laptop than the iPad 2 is, I goto the iPad 2 for my wife & she loves it.
Xoom is much more versatile than the iPad 2.

At the end of the day it still seems like it's just an expensive toy as of now...
But I may pick one up tomorrow just to play with it to see if I like it just because I'm kind of a gadget whore. Hahaha
Question, does LauncherPro(Plus) work on tablets or no? Or is there a tablet version of it? I saw some "hands-on" videos on youtube and there seems to be a bit of lag when transitioning between homescreens. Hmmm!

Well I have a post about this. It is not exhaustive but it covers a lot with photos and elaborations.
I am not a random id that do some own ads here but if xda allows html, I will post my original write-up here without hestitation. =)
Here it is
What do you do with your 10.1 tablet toy??

There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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PureH2O said:
There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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Well, you just went beyond what I said when I called it a "toy." Its silly to make statements like this when 1) laptops are not "half the price"; 2) nobody cares how much YOU want to spend on your electronics; and 3) not everyone makes the same uses of their stuff as you do. If you like laptops, that's great. I do too. Tablets are a different form factor and thus have different uses.
Anyways, make your own decisions about what you want to spend your money on, just don't expect it to be anything more than it is.

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Well, you just went beyond what I said when I called it a "toy." Its silly to make statements like this when 1) laptops are not "half the price"; 2) nobody cares how much YOU want to spend on your electronics; and 3) not everyone makes the same uses of their stuff as you do. If you like laptops, that's great. I do too. Tablets are a different form factor and thus have different uses.
Anyways, make your own decisions about what you want to spend your money on, just don't expect it to be anything more than it is.
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Agreed, my laptop costed me 3 grand, so I disagree with the comment above yours.
Point of this post was to see if there's any other usages for the tablets that I had not known about. Which does not seem to be the case. I was hoping to have more reasons to justify my purchase (to make myself feel less guilty y'know? )
That said, I may buy it and play around with it to see if I like it and/or will be needing it.
Anyone know if its possible to haggle the price at BestBuy or FutureShop in Canada ?

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There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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I admit there really is no reason for a tablet. I've wanted a Xoom since release but wasn't comfortable with paying $800 or signing a contract, so the wifi version came out and I jumped on it.
Now that I have the Xoom, I still don't really know what to do with it. I'm reading books on it, thats cool...it's cool for browsing and what not. I can't justify it's reason for existence other than it's cool.
To summarize;
Paid $600 for Xoom Wifi
Can't figure out what I needed it for
Happy as I hell that I have it
It's gadget porn, thats all.

Nighte said:
Agreed, my laptop costed me 3 grand, so I disagree with the comment above yours.
Point of this post was to see if there's any other usages for the tablets that I had not known about. Which does not seem to be the case. I was hoping to have more reasons to justify my purchase (to make myself feel less guilty y'know? )
That said, I may buy it and play around with it to see if I like it and/or will be needing it.
Anyone know if its possible to haggle the price at BestBuy or FutureShop in Canada ?
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Ha! Haggling a price at a big-box store? Are you from Europe!
Just kidding, but the answer is a flat "no chance." Nobody at those stores have the authority to change pricing.
A word of advice to you: I'd wait for the second generation devices. The Xoom is a solid early-adopter device, but now that you've managed to avoid it for this long I'd put it off for a few more months while the second-gen devices come out. Cheaper, lighter, and (hopefully) will be supported for longer by google/manufacturer. Then again, if you spent $3k on a laptop (I hope it has a money printer and a grappling hook for that price!) then I'm guessing that you're not too worried about the few hundred dollars it would cost to trade up when you want to.
nooomoto said:
I admit there really is no reason for a tablet. I've wanted a Xoom since release but wasn't comfortable with paying $800 or signing a contract, so the wifi version came out and I jumped on it.
Now that I have the Xoom, I still don't really know what to do with it. I'm reading books on it, thats cool...it's cool for browsing and what not. I can't justify it's reason for existence other than it's cool.
To summarize;
Paid $600 for Xoom Wifi
Can't figure out what I needed it for
Happy as I hell that I have it
It's gadget porn, thats all.
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+1

Yeah lots of new ones are coming out soon I believe. Guess I can wait.. it is afterall, just a toy

PureH2O said:
There is no reason for a tablet. Just buy a laptop. Its half the price and its a better value. I would never drop 800 on a tablet.
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Tablets are a lot easier to carry around. It's easier to hold while standing up, laying in bed, and kicking back on a couch/recliner/lawn chair. I'm tired of being hunched over a keyboard and mouse. I can rest my head and browse. If I need to do something that my Xoom can't. I can RDP into my PC, or walk to my PC and do what I need to do. Also battery life on my Xoom is just awesome.
I feel tablets are like the consoles vs PC war. Sure PC is superior to consoles in many ways, but in my opinion, it can't beat picking up the controller and relaxing on the recliner playing a game. Same sense, I can just pick my tablet up and browse.

I have no laptop nor netbook. So I bought the Xoom.
Yes it is a toy, but using it while lazing on the bed/couch is so comfortable.
Web browsing comes first to mind. Though it won't be as full featured as using the desktop but normal web surfing works very well and using your fingers instead of a mouse to navigate websites makes so much sense.
Next would be ebook reading. Seriously, if you read your books and you have no ebook reader then using your tablet as a book is a must. It has pretty much replaced my normal paperback reading. And best thing is it's pretty easy to just sideload tons of free ebooks into the Xoom for your viewing pleasure anytime.
And finally gaming. Just to pass the time. I pretty much stopped gaming on my nexus one because well, playing games on a 10.1" screen is just so much better.

Just buy the xoom at a Costco/sams club for you can return it after two months.
I plan on doing that so if new generation devices come out then I will just swap it out.

Right now i dont see the need for a tablet, although im envious of the people that do have them. But i just dont see the need for it at the moment, i just recently got a brand spankin new huge 25" all-in-one pc for less then that of the Xoom. As of now the Xoom isn't for me but i have my sights set on the Galaxy 10.1

Vote for ASUS Transformer for the Best Tablet of 2011

Head over to the link below to vote
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Well they didn't include the iPad 2.. I'm assuming whoever set the poll up had their reasons. But definately Transformer 1 is the best Honeycomb tablet out there for the money and the keyboard-battery dock was an amazing extension to it.
Asus stepped up and brought a new pricing standard to tablets for others to follow which made it a huge hit. Not to mention the price point got so many people involved in the dev scene for it; that alone makes it one of the best for people who love tinkering with Android.

TF is my first and so far only tablet i have got so i can't compare it to others, but still.. i'm definitely voting for it

i saw it in the portal and voted for it. why would someone say gtab10.1 is good? there were no updates

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The Transformer is the best don't wast your time with all the rest.

I've owned the ipad 2, viewsonic gtablet, acer iconia, and asus transformer. My vote goes to the transformer.
I've also used the thrive and xoom.
There's just no doubt that the transformer is the best one out there... that is unless you want to live in a walled garden of eden then you should get the ipad 2.

goodintentions said:
I've owned the ipad 2, viewsonic gtablet, acer iconia, and asus transformer. My vote goes to the transformer.
I've also used the thrive and xoom.
There's just no doubt that the transformer is the best one out there... that is unless you want to live in a walled garden of eden then you should get the ipad 2.
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i don't see how ipad is "walled garden od eden"? You did hear about jailbreak?
I still have to see android tablet on which I can type without delays and dropped letters, and to position cursor quickly and precisely right where I want it. Lack of usb charging is a terrible design flaw and the reason I ignored it was because I ran inti article which stated that it would be fixed by bios update, which is even more stupid.
I honestly still don't see single aspect where android beats IOS. This poll shuld be named "best android tablet 2011" or include ipad on it. Until then, I will refrain from voting.

zdravke said:
i don't see how ipad is "walled garden od eden"? You did hear about jailbreak?
I still have to see android tablet on which I can type without delays and dropped letters, and to position cursor quickly and precisely right where I want it. Lack of usb charging is a terrible design flaw and the reason I ignored it was because I ran inti article which stated that it would be fixed by bios update, which is even more stupid.
I honestly still don't see single aspect where android beats IOS. This poll shuld be named "best android tablet 2011" or include ipad on it. Until then, I will refrain from voting.
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I agree with you partner that is so bias not to in include the ipad, after all it is the best selling tablet of all time. Ios is just like any other os. In order to fully mod and unlock the phone you would need to jailbreak or root your phone. I hate when people say ios is a walled garden every os is. Once you jailbreak ios is just like any android phone that is root. You guys be acting like you just buy an android phone and out of the box you can do whatever the hell you want without root. Plus its easier to jailbreak ios than it is to root an android phone straight up. If android was truly open people would be able to uninstall or at least turn off custom skins that OEM insist on forcing down our throat without any hacking or uninstall carrier apps. Ios doesn't come with none of that bull****. I love android but ios is far more open than you guys think.
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Diversion said:
Well they didn't include the iPad 2.. I'm assuming whoever set the poll up had their reasons. But definately Transformer 1 is the best Honeycomb tablet out there for the money and the keyboard-battery dock was an amazing extension to it.
Asus stepped up and brought a new pricing standard to tablets for others to follow which made it a huge hit. Not to mention the price point got so many people involved in the dev scene for it; that alone makes it one of the best for people who love tinkering with Android.
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The funny thing is most stores, businesses, and websites will categorize tablets as android, hp, xoom, samsung galaxy, etc. But for the iPad 2 it's just the iPad 2. There isn't a tablet section because the iPad 2 is the iPad 2. That is clearly how apple and the rest of the world want to define it.
Voted for the Transformer. Really is the best tablet this year. I have played with the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 in store and a friend who has one. It is stupid fast and when compared to Transformer the specs are better and it runs faster and smoother. But I'm not going to pay an apple price for it. Besides I love the look and feel of the transformer and am so happy they did not try to make their tablet look like apple.

Funny, my fiancee and I were talking about tablets last night and I told her the GT was regarded as the best thing this side of an iPad, since Apple practically owns the market. Maybe I'm not the only one who loves the Transformer, muahuahuahuahauhaa
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maxvsmith said:
The funny thing is most stores, businesses, and websites will categorize tablets as android, hp, xoom, samsung galaxy, etc. But for the iPad 2 it's just the iPad 2. There isn't a tablet section because the iPad 2 is the iPad 2. That is clearly how apple and the rest of the world want to define it.
Voted for the Transformer. Really is the best tablet this year. I have played with the Samsung Galaxy 10.1 in store and a friend who has one. It is stupid fast and when compared to Transformer the specs are better and it runs faster and smoother. But I'm not going to pay an apple price for it. Besides I love the look and feel of the transformer and am so happy they did not try to make their tablet look like apple.
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Wait what? Stupid fast and better specs than transformer? Where you get that? I've spent quite some time playing with it, I don't feel that it is any faster than transformer. And better spec?? as far as I know they are the Exact same spec. Tegra 2, 1 gb ram. what better spec does it have?

Voted it. I really love it and it is amazing, with the keyboard having an extra battery and can be upgraded to ICS.

trizzle21 said:
I agree with you partner that is so bias not to in include the ipad, after all it is the best selling tablet of all time. Ios is just like any other os. In order to fully mod and unlock the phone you would need to jailbreak or root your phone. I hate when people say ios is a walled garden every os is. Once you jailbreak ios is just like any android phone that is root. You guys be acting like you just buy an android phone and out of the box you can do whatever the hell you want without root. Plus its easier to jailbreak ios than it is to root an android phone straight up. If android was truly open people would be able to uninstall or at least turn off custom skins that OEM insist on forcing down our throat without any hacking or uninstall carrier apps. Ios doesn't come with none of that bull****. I love android but ios is far more open than you guys think.
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Hmmm... last I checked there wasn't a pluthera of Roms and Kernels available to IOS devices, nor is IOS updated as often. Why dont you go ahead and overclock an I device... ohh wait you can't, all you can do is trick the device in to not underclocking it. How about Dualbooting with linux? heck, I don't think you can permanately install Linux on an Idevice yet (although they are working on it). Lets talk about true Multitasking or ow about widgets... My point is, Idevices are still very much walled off, even Jailbroken there is little that can be done easily, that can be done on Android. Side loading apps and freedom of files are the key thing I love about android, plug my phone in to my pc and i can pull any file off I want, I can email any file i want from my device, no need for ssh or any crap like that.
Don't get me wrong, IOS is a fine system and for the majority it is perfect, but don't kid yourself thinking that a jail broken Idevice is as open as a rooted android. Honestly I think a jailbroken Idevice = non rooted android, at least as far as permissions are concerned. I recommend Iphones to people all the time, its a great piece of hardware but for someone who really wants to control their devices and the data stored... Android no questions asked.
To each their own though, back when I rocked iphones I use to think that Android wasn't all that grand, but when I got bored of my iphone4 and grab an Infuse4g for ****s and giggles I was instantly hooked to Android. I had Iphone 2g-4 but it felt like i had the same phone for years, just got a little faster every now and then but it was basically the same... I needed a change. Anyways, i'm just thankful we can have these discussions, many out there have far greater concerns than "what is better the apple or the droid"
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Love my tf...

voted....and transformer deserves it

theraffman said:
Hmmm... last I checked there wasn't a pluthera of Roms and Kernels available to IOS devices, nor is IOS updated as often. Why dont you go ahead and overclock an I device... ohh wait you can't, all you can do is trick the device in to not underclocking it. How about Dualbooting with linux? heck, I don't think you can permanately install Linux on an Idevice yet (although they are working on it). Lets talk about true Multitasking or ow about widgets... My point is, Idevices are still very much walled off, even Jailbroken there is little that can be done easily, that can be done on Android. Side loading apps and freedom of files are the key thing I love about android, plug my phone in to my pc and i can pull any file off I want, I can email any file i want from my device, no need for ssh or any crap like that.
Don't get me wrong, IOS is a fine system and for the majority it is perfect, but don't kid yourself thinking that a jail broken Idevice is as open as a rooted android. Honestly I think a jailbroken Idevice = non rooted android, at least as far as permissions are concerned. I recommend Iphones to people all the time, its a great piece of hardware but for someone who really wants to control their devices and the data stored... Android no questions asked.
To each their own though, back when I rocked iphones I use to think that Android wasn't all that grand, but when I got bored of my iphone4 and grab an Infuse4g for ****s and giggles I was instantly hooked to Android. I had Iphone 2g-4 but it felt like i had the same phone for years, just got a little faster every now and then but it was basically the same... I needed a change. Anyways, i'm just thankful we can have these discussions, many out there have far greater concerns than "what is better the apple or the droid"
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Yee indeed.good talk buddy. I pad and iPhone are labeled the best due to sales. Which is far from it. Just because the HP touchpad sold completely out,does that mean it's the best or near it? No,hell no. Apple is great system but every year its the same damn thing and millions of dumbasses pour hundreds for a minor upgrade or update lol. Android is where its at
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Wait what? Stupid fast and better specs than transformer? Where you get that? I've spent quite some time playing with it, I don't feel that it is any faster than transformer. And better spec?? as far as I know they are the Exact same spec. Tegra 2, 1 gb ram. what better spec does it have?
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Well with the specs I just heard about it. I assumed it did as well. Maybe they are the same. I think what it really is the reason why some people like it better is because Samsung is well known. Maybe they think paying the premium price makes it better. it's probably the slimness too that attracts people. I am not crazy about the slim trend. If they made the prime without the thinner form it would not bother me. I played with the two at best buy and reset them both. I went on a few sites and did some flash video sites on both. I used the stock browser and the galaxy seemed a little faster. I checked both and they were both updated as well. Try both in the store and see if with the newest update if they are more balanced or if one is a little faster. Even if the galaxy is a little faster I still think the transformer is the better talet and deal. I guess its mostly the tech snobs that drooled over the samsung galaxy 10.1. I used to spend wayyy too much time and too much belief in engadget.

Should I trade my iPad?

First off, I have an android phone, motorola atria.
I have a 32gb wifi iPad, and a chance to trade it for either an acer a500 or samsung galaxy tab 10.1 4g. It would be a straight trade. Would you do it?
I like the apps for the iPad, and there are great games for it. This is my only major road block right now. Hardware wise, I would trade for either one easily, but it's the software side that's keeping me from the simple trade.
Are there apps for android that are specifically made for tablets like iOS and their "hd" version of apps?
It seems the quality of apps and especially games are better right now for iPad?
Ps. In general I do prefer android, I would never trade my atrix for an iPhone. I'm speaking just tablet wise right now.

An iPad 1? It's a roughly equivalent trade though they might be coming out slightly ahead on a purely dollar perspective. Performance-wise, you may like the faster Android tablets if this not an iPad 2. However, if the software is there for you on the iPad, you could simply look to sell your iPad and pick up a newer iPad later. I would suspect Apple is due for an iPad 3 upgrade in the near future.
There are some apps Google claims as "tablet" in their tablet tab but they appear to just be standard apps a lot of times. Some apps do list themselves as HD, usually suggesting they work well with tabs but I don't know that Android has the same quantity of tab apps that iOS does. Most of the time you're just working with phone apps that also work on a tab. If sales increase on Android tablets, I would expect that to change but it may not be the fastest process, particularly if phone apps are working.
App quality on Android certainly runs the spectrum from really solid to absolute junk. Given Google's app stance, that's just the way things go. Right now, companies looking to sell apps and games still look to iOS first. Even at a lower market percentage, iOS is still more profitable for developers than Android. Android users just seem to be more reluctant to purchase apps where iOS doesn't seem to suffer that same problem - Apple's got them used to opening their wallets wide and frequently That's not to say that there isn't junk on iOS.
Part of the reason for the junk, though, is the way Apple and Google go about allowing publishing. You need to be a subscriber to some annual developer service on Apple to publish. $99 a year, I believe. Not a huge amount but it's a consideration. I don't know that Google has any monetary requirements involved. So Google gets a lot more people wanting to develop for it but they can end up with guys that are just learning Java and scrounged something together that managed to run. On the other hand, you get some great developers that have an easy entry in and can put out brilliant software. There's good and bad that comes with both positions.

As the previous poster said, it depends on if it is an iPad 1 or 2. Just to put things in perspective right now:
In canada, a wifi iPad2 32GB is $619.99, An Iconia A500 32GB can cost as low as $349.99. If you have an iPad2 you are probably better off selling the iPad separately and buying an Iconia. If you are looking at a Galaxy Tab then a straight up trade might not be so bad as they cost more and have more "appeal" than an Acer tab. By appeal I mean resale value of a Galaxy tab is likely higher because of the "Galaxy" name.
As for the software side of things. I have plenty of apps that work great on the tablet. There are some HD versions of apps and the number of tab apps keeps growing. The only issue I have is sometimes trying to find apps for tablets, but the market is slowly getting better at that too.

Regarding apps, you have to consider that android tablets are a year "younger" than ipads. The quantity is not nearly close to the numbers for ipad. The good news is that most of the phone apps will work just fine and with ICS optimizing an app for both small screens and large ones is easier, so ideally developers should make better apps (actually it's easier in HC too, but but there are no HC phones ) . The bad news is that as someone here said android users don't open their wallets as often or as wide as Apple ones, so the development almost always goes with ios in mind and android follows. However this will also change in the future.
I have access to both the A500 and GT 10.1 and samsung beats the iconia only in the battery. The screen is oversaturated (someone may like it that way, I but I hate it), and no USB, they even have the ridiculous apple's connector for charging and connecting to pc.
And one more thing - android developers also have to pay a 25$ one-time fee for registration in the market.
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I sold my ipad 1 so I could buy my iconia tab. There is much more I can do with the iconia
Than a ipad. I guess its the freedom android offers that lured me overfrom apple. I like the
Galaxie tab 10 but there is no usb port so the iconia was my choice. Good luck with the deal
Steve

Wond3r said:
First off, I have an android phone, motorola atria.
I have a 32gb wifi iPad, and a chance to trade it for either an acer a500 or samsung galaxy tab 10.1 4g. It would be a straight trade. Would you do it?
I like the apps for the iPad, and there are great games for it. This is my only major road block right now. Hardware wise, I would trade for either one easily, but it's the software side that's keeping me from the simple trade.
Are there apps for android that are specifically made for tablets like iOS and their "hd" version of apps?
It seems the quality of apps and especially games are better right now for iPad?
Ps. In general I do prefer android, I would never trade my atrix for an iPhone. I'm speaking just tablet wise right now.
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From a hardware perspective, the answer is easy--i.e. Android tablets are better. I have recommended iPads and Android tablets to various people. It really boiled down to what they were wanting/needing. iPad has simplicity because you are prevented from doing pretty much anything to the device. I have folks who prefer that. An Android tablet gives a better desktop/laptop experience because you can customize. Software is a biggie. If you have apps you enjoy on the iPad, you need to investigate if they also exist on the Android or if something comparative exists. You mention enjoying games. You'll really like Gamesoft's games. I also like the emulators for Android, which means I can enjoy playing my old NES/SNES/Genesis/etc. games on my tablet.
The iPad 3 will come out (instead of originally coming out this year, rumour has it Apple extended the date to coincide with the iPad anniversary next year). The iPad 3 will more than likely come with a quad core processor. One of the biggest problems with iPads is the lack of connections, so an Android tablet will win in that test. Being able to upgrade your storage is a pretty huge plus. I know iPad has the iCloud. As I tell folks, that is great if you are in an area where you can actually get to the cloud, otherwise it is a huge fail.
One more comment about apps. Yes, iPad has a larger selection, so again do your homework on those iPad apps you use frequently. Yes, there are apps and games that are released specifically for Android tablets versus phones. I liked Adobe offering their support to Android with their Photoshop app. Not only is it available for Android but Adobe released the software for Android before iPad.
Best of luck. Hope some of this is of use.

Keep the iPad.
I figure anybody who bought one, well, they should just live with it.

Moscow Desire said:
Keep the iPad.
I figure anybody who bought one, well, they should just live with it.
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Giggles ...
i think you should maybe ask your wife or girl friend what to do.. Sheesh cant anyone make a decision on there own...
Honey to i continue to be a slave of the apple.. Or do i get the freedom of Android..
THIS is a No Brain-er Decision ..
Giggles.. FOR REAL do what you feel is right for you
as we do not know your personality what you like dislike is size weight a issue.. Is being Cool in front of your friends a requirement... I say Ditch the IOS. BUT IM Sure you get that from the beginning of my post
Good Luck with what ever you choose to do... but i would not trade even thou retail value is likely higher for the ipad .

erica_renee said:
Giggles ...
i think you should maybe ask your wife or girl friend what to do.. Sheesh cant anyone make a decision on there own...
Honey to i continue to be a slave of the apple.. Or do i get the freedom of Android..
THIS is a No Brain-er Decision ..
Giggles.. FOR REAL do what you feel is right for you
as we do not know your personality what you like dislike is size weight a issue.. Is being Cool in front of your friends a requirement... I say Ditch the IOS. BUT IM Sure you get that from the beginning of my post
Good Luck with what ever you choose to do... but i would not trade even thou retail value is likely higher for the ipad .
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Geeze Erica, I did ask her that. Her response... if I had owned an iPad, she wouldn't have introduced me to her Matrix bedsheets )))) iPad apps lack imagination and usefullness....
Poor iPad owners..((((

That's the thing I don't get. Is anyone planning on installing 140,000 apps on they're tab? Most likely there's going to be something that does the exact same thing, or similar, on android if it has any value. My impression is also that android phone apps run better on tabs than iOS on iPad

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Geeze Erica, I did ask her that. Her response... if I had owned an iPad, she wouldn't have introduced me to her Matrix bedsheets )))) iPad apps lack imagination and usefullness....
Poor iPad owners..((((
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Well you have a keeper then.Is she as hot as she is intelligent.
Oops

I have both an A500 and an iPad 2. They are both great in their own way. Some things to note:
Ability to expand the storage on the A500 is nice
The screen dimensions on the A500 are better for movies
It's fun to customize the A500
I continue to have problems with wifi here and there on the A500
The screen on the iPad is nicer
The iPad software is MUCH 'snappier'. I'm amazed how slow the A500 is when I use it.
The big name apps for the iPad are generally better. The developers just seem to concentrate more on that platform. For example, the Twitter app for the iPad is nicer.
That said, running iPhone apps on the iPad sucks. The 'little app in the center of the screen' thing is awful. Resizing the app is even worse.
They are both good for their own reasons. If it helps, I use my iPad more than my A500.
The Galaxy Tab 10.1 equalizes the screens (better screen than the A500 IMO). I would lean that way if the ability to expand storage isn't an issue.

Funny thread, and the OP hasn't returned to the scene of the crime.
IMHO, if you really have to ask the question....then by all means....PLEASE KEEP THE I pad!

kjy2010 said:
Funny thread, and the OP hasn't returned to the scene of the crime.
IMHO, if you really have to ask the question....then by all means....PLEASE KEEP THE I pad!
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I've been reading the responses.
I'm not here to argue.
And by the way, it is an iPad 1.
If I have to ask the question, please keep the iPad? You are making it seem like I dont know about Android.
I've been with Android since the G1. and I've mentioned my phone is a rooted Moto Atix.

Wond3r said:
I've been reading the responses.
I'm not here to argue.
And by the way, it is an iPad 1.
If I have to ask the question, please keep the iPad? You are making it seem like I dont know about Android.
I've been with Android since the G1. and I've mentioned my phone is a rooted Moto Atix.
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Thank you for proving my point, and I stand by my post. If you have to ask the question, you really need to keep it and NOT get the A500.

kjy2010 said:
Thank you for proving my point, and I stand by my post. If you have to ask the question, you really need to keep it and NOT get the A500.
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Thats not really proving any point.
Thanks for your input though.

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Thats not really proving any point.
Thanks for your input though.
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I hope not all a500 users are immature.
Actually - judging by the rest of the replies, I know not all of them are.
Again, thank you for your input.

Wond3r said:
I hope not all a500 users are immature.
Actually - judging by the rest of the replies, I know not all of them are.
Again, thank you for your input.
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I like the fact I can run my 2.5" HDD on my Iconia A501, Makes watching movies, moving files a whole lot easier than having to connect to a pc, use all the inner storage and not be able to expand... I also have a 32Gb sd card for all the "must have" shows I like to watch.... That gives me 64Gb storage... Include the 1 Tb drive I attach, take that Ipad....
Oh, and the other thing I found, having a friend with an Ipad, he wanted to download a game I showed him on my android device. It actually cost him to buy the app that Android was giving away for free... The fact I can load apps from elsewhere other than downloading off the market is also a big plus (its nice to keep a copy of the apk files elsewhere)... Something else to think about.