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Sky By Mobile..

Has anyone got this working on a WM5 device yet?
The url's that you go to come back with
"service is not available for your mobile device".. but there are lots of JAR's and JAD's floating around for different phone types..
EDITED:
As I'm not a Vodafone 3G customer - i'm after the SKY TV Guides and the ability t mark something as "to record" and have it automatically recorded at home.....
Charlie Grillo

id be interested in this too

Can someone explain a bit mroe about this? Is it a service that sky are introducing for their customers, or an extra pay service? Cheers.

This is for current customer (for free):
http://www.sky.com/skybymobile/home

try going to:
mobile.sky.com/sbm
this then checks your phones comatibility

Sky by Mobile - Is it possible on Windows Mobile?
By Gears. Published on 10 Jul 2006.
Some of you may be aware of a new service launched by Sky TV recently. If you're lucky enough to have one of their whizzy PVR's then you'll already be used to the live pause and recording to hard disk. However, recently they announced their Sky by Mobile service which allows you to get the latest news and videos from Sky plus you can now remotely set programmes to record onto your Sky+ box. Good eh?
Only one problem though. You need one of these handsets to run the software, and Windows Mobile isn't on there. I'd really like to use this service - I'm always forgetting to set my Sky+ box or I'm away from the house and I can't physically touch the remote. Last night I found this interesting digitalspy.co.uk thread and downloaded this JAR file and plonked it onto my Orange SPV C600. I opened it up in file explorer and ran it in the Java MIDlet Manager. It does actually work, I can load it up and enter my sky.com credentials, however it stops after that - I presume because it can't access the net. I can't seem to get around this and I've tried everything like opening a GPRS connection manually and tweaking with the security settings.
Has anyone else tried this successfully ? I'm trying the JAR file for the Nokia 6230 in this example but Sky hide the links so I've not found any other JAR files to test.
http://mobile.sky.com/SBM/series40/sky_S40_LR_SF_6230/SkyMobile_S40_LR_SF_6230.jar
It installs in the midlet manager, and runs, but does not connect or go any further.
Surur

ive tried the link in a few different browsers, pie, mnimo and the java based opera but no look, just says not compatible with your device, i guess we will have to wait untill the sky.com web based service is available and use the text service in the mean time
got excited when the letter came through the post, its been in the pipeline for about a year or so now
edit: looked at the website http://www.wecomm.com/ who i think are the company that provide the software for the service and they do have other products that work on WM phones, so maybe soon it will be on our wizards!

anyone know whether we are going to get this?

On a similar subject, does anyone have the software program that you need to view your sky channels via broadband? I've just registered for it, but they email the URL to the original email address that was given to them by the account holder, but my Dad never gave them one so I'm struggling to get the software!
Cheers.

I think everyone has given up on this but ive managed to get a collection of installers for various phones, using the user agent tags in firefox.
not managed to get any of them to work though! but thought they may be useful to other people.
edit: ignore this post i cant seem to upload the files!
but if anyone is interrested give me a shout, ive got about 13 different installer files, mainly nokia,motorola, SE an i think one might be for blackberry.

Orb.com-like open source project

For the past week or two, I've been looking into developing an open source project similar to Orb.com where you can stream A/V content to your phone or PDA. There was something similar posted to the Hermes forum by fun_key, but that was unfortunately not true media-on-demand, because it started VLC (www.videolan.org) and then would have the client connect, which would make the client miss the beginning of the media, sometimes a lot depending on connection lag.
The interface of this project would be web-based, again, like Orb. The problem I have run into, however, is the actual streaming. I have looked into using ffmpeg (has compatibility issues), mplayer (can't stream out; uses ffmpeg), and VLC, among others. VLC seems to be the most promising one, but I have some issues with it.
The main issue is due to me trying to make this work with WMP and not CorePlayer/TCPMP because of the video problems that has on the Hermes (and because it would be nice to stream to PCs at university/work without installing stuff on them). I managed to do some test streaming to desktop WMP, but the mobile one just won't work - it seems to be trying to download the entire file before playing it, which is not going to happen because it's huge.
So I am asking for any kind of help or suggestions that any of you might have. Especially if someone here is familiar or has worked with Microsoft's ASF specifications and is willing to help, that would be awesome.
EDIT: Almost forgot -- this project would work on at least Windows and Linux.

Cool! I can't really help you,
but I just wanted to say I very much like the idea!
I've been looking for this since I learned about orb.
I even made a dual boot windows xp install specially for Orb, so when I leave my house, I reboot the PC in WinXP to lbe able to listen to music and watch TV on the go.
A linux alternative would make this unnecessary!!
Please someone who can help, join this project!!

Strange, I thought I was subscribed to this thread, but I didn't get any notification of your post, ksdz...
Anyway, I've pretty much given up on using WMP because have neither the time nor the patience to study and code for the ASF protocol, but I have not given up on the idea itself.
Right now I'm working on another project, but once that's ready, I will most likely return to this. I might as well make use of CorePlayer/TCPMP - in fact I've already figured out how to do the most challenging parts of this. I only wish I had more time to work on personal projects such as this one.

Streaming the BBC's Content on your PDA

The Beebotron site lets you Listen Again to any BBC broadcast – something the Beeb won’t let you do on a PDA .
The main site gives you the information and background for the project, along with the radio stations and their programmes – just click and listen! This works well on a PC, but it’s getting a bit large for a PDA. So in the site you’ll find a link to Beebotron Lite, which is a cut down version (fully functional, but without the explanations) aimed purely at PDA users.
Beebotron and Beebotron Lite also host programme synopsis information. Now you’ll know what you’re going to play before you play it (unlike the Beeb’s site where you don’t know what, e.g. the Afternoon Play MON TUE WED THU FRI is going to give you unless you start playing one of the day links…)
I made the site primarily for my own use (Axim X51v) and then realised that other people might like it.
Thanks for taking the time to read this - hope you like the site!
Cheers, Kronalias

This is a fantastic idea Kronalias! However Real Player on my Universal times-out everytime I try to play any of the links. I've tried over Wifi, and Ive also adjusted real players time-out to 100 in the registry with no success.
Anybody having similar problems?- Is the BBC blocking me because I am conecting from New Zealand? I know they block video, but I have no problem accesing the audio links from my PC.
Thanks.

Hi Vscottie
Thanks for the nice words! Now let’s see if we can get your problem solved….
When you say that you can access the audio links from your PC do you mean that you can use Beebotron to listen? If so then, as my links are the links that are buried deeply in the Beeb’s site, you are not being blocked by either the BBC or your ISP. If you can’t use Beebotron on your PC then I’m afraid you won’t be able to use it on your PDA.
You might just find that you can Listen Again but not Listen Live (or vice versa) - although I haven’t had any reports of this behaviour.
You’re the first response I’ve had from NZ (thank you!), but I’ve had two reports from Australia. These were for a QTEK 9000 (same as an iMate JAS JAR) and a Nokia N80, both of which worked fine. They are both smartphones (WM5 on the QTEK, Symbian OS on the Nokia), and both connected to Beebotron using wifi. I realise NZ isn’t Oz, but I’m rather hoping that if Beebotron works in one country it’ll also work in t’other…
You might just find that you can Listen Again but not Listen Live (or vice versa), although I haven't had any reports of this behaviour.
I’m guessing that your Universal is the HTC Universal Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC Phone. If so, then it should connect…
I’m not sure whether you can do the following on a smartphone (I don’t have one) but this checks whether everything is working on a pocket pc:
1. On your Pocket Internet Explorer please go to the Beebotron, then pick any Listen Again link and then any show. Don't click the link, press and hold it and you should get a popup box. Select the option 'Copy Address'
2. Open Real and then File => Open Location. Paste (Ctl V) the link in and press ok in the top right corner
And it should play!
Would you let me know how you get on please?
Cheers, Kronalias
PS For any other readers, in my OP I forgot to give the link to Beebotron Lite. It’s here: Beebotron Lite

Yeah I can't work out what it's problem is. Real Player 'connects' then starts 'loading' and stays that way with its little clock turning untill it reaches whatever I've set for time-out (100 now) then reports "Response or data from server timed out." It obviously hates me
Connecting from the PC is no problem- both from the Beebs site and yours.
But I've just worked out (sorry I should have checked before) that I can't 'load' Irish streams from RTÉ with real now either, or any real stream from the net- well I can load enough to view the tag information but not play the stream.
There must be something installed on my JasJar that's causing the problems, I've turned off the PCs firewall in case it was that.- Does RealOnePPC have problems with Wifi I wonder (we have no GSM coverage at the house)
Time to try some software removal.
Thanks again

[ ]Video Security - Can i be a remote spy???

so i have been thinking about my homes security and i have some questions...
i have collected quite a few expensive gadgets and they need protection!
So, i have been tinkering with my **** logitech orb web cam and it now supports motion detection. now call me crazy but i would like to be able to receive on my diamond, the video that has been recorded by a motion detection enabled web cam set up in my home. i'm trying to get my logitech web cam to save on my HP media smart server, running windows home server, not default on my laptop, and be notified by either sms that there is new video on my server or the video itself sent to my diamond. i would also like to be able to connect remotely to my laptop and be able to activate the camera software from a desktop link or something like that.
now i swear this is diamond related in the fact that i would like to use the device as a controller.
i have not used remote desktop on my diamond yet, i could not get it working.
i'm not sure if this is a app request, idea, or util so ill follow the forum template rules once this thread takes shape.
please shed some light on how one could make this happen. i think it could be useful to all of us, at home or place of business or your just want to bust your stupid parents snooping around your room.

so you are looking for an app that does the following:
act as webcam streaming server, but only when motion is detected, and when it does detect motion, it must notify you via sms, plus: you need a simple app for youre diamond to vie the stream..
i dont think I would be able to do this, but if you can clarify exacly what you want thinking WITH you is more easy...
on the other hand, i am sure the pc part has already some usefull apliactions wich are able to act as a server. but im not sure about the notification sms..
it would be ideal if that sms contained a link that you follow to open youre browser to view the stream...
what i know what is possible, there are apps for the pc that record video and send it via e-mail...
just use google for webcam security..
maybe there are pplz around here that can adapt software for u...
but i u seach im sure there are apps out there wich can do that... the only app you need is a browser capable of viewing video streams..

Would be good an app who detect movement, and then make several actions:
- Upload a photo/video on an FTP
- Save photo/video
- Play an AUDIO alarm
- Send an mms with the photo/video
- Send a warning sms
- Make a call (and let you listen what's happening)
....all when Movement is detected via the pda camera

Improvise
What you are trying to accomplish is mostly already possible. You'll need to do some research and some creative thinking to get it to work though. You will most likely not get an all-in-one solution to this issue.
It sounds to me like the motion detection and subsequent video capture is already taking place via the software you have installed for your web cam.
Basically you need two things: A way to be notified of a new video file and a way to view it.
I'm not aware of any existing application which will send an email (which can arrive as an SMS) based on a new file being created in a directory, but as a programmer I can asure you there's not much to it.
There are however many solutions which would allow you to view a video file on your WM device from you computer at home and remote desktop is not the way to go here. Your best bet is probably good old http since most video applications will handle "streaming" to file to you as you watch. You'll need to familiarize yourself with IIS (Internet Information Server; I'm assuming you're using Windows) and create a "virtual directory" pointing at the folder where the video files arrive. You'll also need to take the necessary steps to open port 80 so that your computer at home can host via http (this means configuring your router and your computer's firewall). Once this is done just pick your favorite video player and choose "open URL" or something similar and type in http://YourExternalIP/YourVirtualDirectory/YourVideoFile.
I'll leave it up to you to figure out how to best make yourself aware of new files.

As LucidObscurity says there already are several solutions available to this through the combination of existing discrete applications, although .
My setup does does what you desire although goes quite a bit further so it may be overkill for your requirements. However, as food for thought it may still be of interest. It consists of:
- A series of Panasonic BL-C1 IP cameras distributed around my house (running on the wired house network, although wireless versions are available) - these are quite discrete cameras and don't have the typical 'camera look' hence are aesthetically compatible with partners, guests etc (most people I've pointed them out to hadn't noticed them and then didn't believe they were cameras)
- The motion detection/analysis software ZoneMinder - the 'brains' - this monitors the cameras, detects motion (in zoned areas) and records the events as required (it buffers the images so you can capture what happened before the trigger too)
- The SMS tool MercurySMS (and VGSMail gateway) used to alert me via text when motion has been detected (the texts contain various event-related details/stats and a link to the recording)
- A handful of other scripts used for small housekeeping tasks e.g. scheduling the starting/stopping of the system, realtime offsite backup of recorded material (there's no point me capturing a thief on video if he then goes an nicks my PC!), etc
- My Diamond, or any other device with a web browser, used to interface with the system - controlling/configuring it, accessing live/recorded video etc. A web front end is essential in my opinion - you don't want to tie access down to a single platform/device.
Whilst it's not a setup that is up-and-running out of the box now that's it's fully configured it works well - very well. False alarms are practically nill and it doesn't miss a thing. Remote access via the web is powerful and as simple/complicated as you want - on holiday my girlfriend regularly fires up the quick 'snapshot' montage to keep an eye on our cats (we do have a dedicated 'catcam' monitoring the catflap so we can see the history of who came in/out and when).
I'm sure there are some all-in-one solutions available but they likely come at a cost and perhaps do not have the power and flexibility of a modularised solution - it'd be worth seeing what's available though.
Mathew

thanks for all your replies. great read.
i just want all my systems, Windows Home Server, Vista Home Pro and WM6.1 to come together. i will take a look into the apps you have linked to and see whats what.
i already have the ability to record with motion detection. when a new file is created in a folder on my home server, i want to be notified and linked to or streamed. i have remote access to my file via browser [ blazeitup123.homeserver.com ]. i can't get the logitech software to actually save to the server because it says i dont have the rights. i'll try and fix that tonight after dinner, but saving to the server is very improtant because my laptop could be stolen and then the whole setup was pointless. i want to incorperate my diamond into this process as much as possible, like with the remote activation and so on.

Wooow this is one of the coolest threads I read in a long time.
Although I'm not as advanced as some of the members regarding computing, I was thinking:
-Cam software streaming to remote address.
-When motion is detected, cam starts recording, thus creating movement in the remote address.
-When new connection(movement) is detected, you activate a new RSS feed.
-You get RSS notification on phone.
-Connect to remote address and check the stream.
What about:
A spy cam on the Diamond, I mean that you could hide your phone somewhere and point it at a certain spot you want to view. Then remotely access the phone and view the live stream?
Since the phone is so small its an easy hide.
Greetings to all and luck in all your great projects!

you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/

Looks good. I've also found Wapcam
(Seems to alert via e-mail to you could use either push e-mail or an email-to-SMS gateway for instant alerts)
Mathew

shogunmark said:
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
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looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.

Security
Blazeitup123 said:
looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Perhaps you should invest in a big dog.

I m using this one:
http://www.accordiva.com/
U have there SecuRanger 2 Support 4 video channels
or one Camera only: SecuExpress 2
SecuExpress 2
both come with WM application for remote / viewing etc..

Take a look at orb.com. It has the ability to sms or email you if it detects movement. You could then connect to your home webcam through the phone's' browser.

...a good spy, like a 007 , should be able to SPY also without his PC
The only one that i've found is Invisible Shooter... for symbian os there are a lot of those apps (no pc needed), but for the pda there aren't many... (see the post #3)

Live TV and no licence!??

I can watch live Tv on my phone but im a bit confused because when u buy any tv equipment here in the uk ....set top boxes/freeview, tv,s ect they do a check to see if you have a tv licence! Im obviostly missing somethig here so if someone could enlighten me that be nice, ( im basicaly asking why they didnt do a check when i downloaded it to my phone....BTW im not bothered im just curious)
Paul.

The main reason is that you don't need a seperate TV licence for a phone, as it is covered by your main TV licence (comes under the excemption "Any device powered solely by its own internal batteries")
Plus the law requires shops to take address details and pass them onto TV licencing, but does not do the same for software downloads.

handsomedog......thanks for the reply! but......."as it is covered by your main TV licence"......how do they know?
Paul. (sorry to go on! as i said before im not bothered just curious)

They don't know, they just expect you would have a licence at your main address. Forget detector vans, the main way they enforce this is to simply knock on the door of every address without a licence.
As the number of people using a mobile as their only souce of live TV is close to zero, it's probably not worth their time checking, likewise they don't check for a licence when you stream live TV over the web on BBC iplayer.
The cost of checking you are properly licenced for iplayer/mobile apps would hugely outweigh the revenue stream they would gain from it.

Oh ok! thanks for the reply mate.
Paul.

Hi Mr London - can I ask what app you are using to watch live tv? Thanks

Davsor im using SKYFIRE.
Paul.