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Xoom slow and buggy

Does anyone else feel like the software was rushed? It just feels so slow and unoptomized? Really glitch and stuff. Especially when scrolling. Do y'all think this will be solved soon with an update or what??
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kregstrong said:
Does anyone else feel like the software was rushed? It just feels so slow and unoptomized? Really glitch and stuff. Especially when scrolling. Do y'all think this will be solved soon with an update or what??
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Can you be more specific on what is slow? Yes, I do feel it was rushed with missing features and stuff but I do not think it is slow. The only slowness I have noticed is when on XDA in the browser and typing a response. Other forums/sites seem to work fine. Not sure if you are talking about the browser, some sites, all sites, all apps, etc.

Yeah I feel they shouldn't have removed the beta sign off the Operating System yet. I've had little crashes in the browser and in the camera here and there. Since we are all Android geeks we are accustomed to it. But newcomers that pay $800 for a device would get very frustrated. Just gotta wait for those OTA's.

The one I played with at Best Buy the other day seemed laggy on the home screens, but when I got into an app, everything was so fast and smooth.
I have to give Google the benefit of the doubt here. At this point, I see the XOOM primarily as a platform for developers to get their apps tuned for tablets before the Honeycomb Tablet rush begins. I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot of Honeycomb ready apps show up over the next few weeks. Also, I would hope Google has an update ready at least some time in March in anticipation of those other tablets that will launch later next month and in April. Having the XOOM out is a perfect way for Google to find bugs that are present in the system. They can do all the internal tests they want, but someone in the real world is always going to find something they missed. Granted, I'm sure they know about the lag and choppiness in the browser, but considering the XOOM was actually being manufactured before the Super Bowl, this version of Honeycomb is at least that old. I hope they're well on their way to an update by now.
Just give it some time.
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Case in point.

Yea it seems just laggy and choppy. Like the app draw and stuff. Its just annoying lol. Hopefully the updte fixes it
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I'll have to agree with almost everyone here about the state of the software.
Though I don't have a Xoom as of yet (its on order), I have had the chance to spend a lot of time with one at work. The biggest gripe I have with it is the fact that it's packed to the brim with amazing technology yet does not perform like it is. I have been able to do what I want with it with no difficulty, but the sad thing to me is I don't feel like I'm holding a Tegra 2 powered device. It's like having a V8 engine in a sports car but only using 4 cylinders, it gets you where you want to go, but its not as fun.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the thing, and I am replacing my iPad with it. We just have to be patient, and confident that Google will come through. Besides, they always do.

it is choppy and laggy and still needs a lot of work. When I compare it to my inspire it is very clear that it needs work. I still love it and wouldn't trade it for anything.

It is a more of question of when rather than if it will be updated. They made the right choice getting this thing to market, you have it in hand and it's real. It might be buggy, but it has it's moments of being impressive.

Dont worry guys. Wait till we can deodex, have custom recovery from Koush, and start work on kernel development. Then we will see what this baby can really do.

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Dont worry guys. Wait till we can deodex, have custom recovery from Koush, and start work on kernel development. Then we will see what this baby can really do.
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Indeed! This + Honeycomb update = WIN!
On a related note, SetCPU has successfully overclocked the Tegra2 to 1.2Ghz, reaching 40 MFLOPS In Linpack...and that's only ONE of the cores!

What's some cool stuff y'all have done with it so far??
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"Google" pissing anyone else off?

OK so... first we go to Gingerbread - I noticed the Green icons as the most changed, hardware acceleration and a few more tweaks and what not....
Now this morning I woke up ready to go to football practice, im taking a ****.. and i go on engadget and i see this:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/11/android-ice-cream-sandwich-pictures-leak-leave-us-cold/
I just go WHAT THE ****?
I understand its a alpha release, but the UI will probably not change from whats shown in that article anyways...
Can't someone come up with a better looking UI? I'm really starting to get pissed off, and I can't find out who to blame.. I'm guessing its Google because they make the OS and the default UI is that color...
Green to Blue
thats it? Thats the big new ICS?
*NOTE im not talking about all the other changes, i know there will be minor/major new things, but i'm trying to focus this on UI more than other things...
Are people just not creative anymore?

This is an alpha release!!!
It is the pure Android UI. The companys like Samsung, HTC,...... will make there own changes like Sense (HTC), Touchwiz (Samsung) and this will change the look of ICS.
There are hundrets of different launchers and themes in the market so you can make your own style. And if this is not enough there is still UOT kitchen where you can change everything you like to.
And what about custom roms? Devs are working hard for us to get something new every week.
Its a little bit early talk bad about something that is not available yet for normal customers like us.
So what do you whant? Do it better if you can. But i am sure you can not!
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What's the big deal? It's gonna change after official release not to mention the OEMs will put their custom UIs over it anyways. You can use 3rd party launchers or a custom rom. If none of that fits your needs then just get yourself an iPhone.

Since u r more creative than them why don't you just make ur own UI

lulz^ im sure there will be huge improvements in icecream sandwich.

To be ohnest if that's what ics will look like I don't think I'm that excited about it. I mean Ill love all the improvements and tweaks in it but I just don't really like the launcher.
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It's not even close to done I read that the person who released it said its just Gb an froyo in one right now an small changes
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Android is a platform that makes anything you want to change possible...you don't like blue find a red theme... don't like red find a green theme... don't like anything out there.. find a instructional thread and make it your own... Don't like your processors speed... overclock it... Google (android) is awesome for that reason and I don't really care too much about official updates except that with each one it gives our devs something new to work with. If you don't take advantage of the open source community maybe an iphone is a better device for you. And I don't mean that in a condesending way. They look and run fine out of the box.. but it will never run better than the way you get it. I love my android... I flash rom after rom and theme after theme until my phone looks and runs exactly how I want it to.
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I'm not waiting for ICS ... I'm waiting for the custom roms to be ICS based
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Anything from the factory will have bloat and other limits for sure.
Wait for a custom rom and call it a day.
Vibrant+MIUI

And I thought it was supposed to look like honeycomb?

Who the hell cares what it looks like? If you're on this site it's because you want MORE! MORE CHOICES! MORE ROMS! MORE THEMES! MORE CUSTOMIZATION! Everybody on this site will just change ICS to look like what they want it to anyway...

bfranklin1986 said:
Who the hell cares what it looks like? If you're on this site it's because you want MORE! MORE CHOICES! MORE ROMS! MORE THEMES! MORE CUSTOMIZATION! Everybody on this site will just change ICS to look like what they want it to anyway...
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Truer words never spoken
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I'm for changes, especially in UI. But how many other major mobile OS change from version to version? Not even iOS has changed much since it's initial launch to the latest firmware. The biggest advantage with Android is the possibilities are endless when it comes to customizing the UI the way you like it.

can't wait for a newer version personally!

Am I the only one that looked at those pictures and thought FAKE?
Sorry but it looks like TW type launcher with a CM7 type color scheme, not much else, we all know you can make it say whatever version of Android you want it to have, and some are claiming that the kernel is just a GB kernel, not a newer one

Google is an engineer driven company, not design.

z0phi3l said:
Am I the only one that looked at those pictures and thought FAKE?
Sorry but it looks like TW type launcher with a CM7 type color scheme, not much else, we all know you can make it say whatever version of Android you want it to have, and some are claiming that the kernel is just a GB kernel, not a newer one
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I agree, I thought the same thing. I heard ics was going to have it's own theming engine which would render manufacturer's theming useless and unnecessary. The whole point was to make it easier to push the updates and save the manufacturers time. Just my two cents.
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Ics will also have soft buttons like honeycomb. I'm guessing it will look nothing like this at official release.
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Amazing Multitasking for android

Could you imagin doing this on our Notes!!
(http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/)
i've been watching these Onskreen lot with excitement for the last couple of months and it now seems like this is no longer Vaporware as they now beta testing it on the Motorola Xoom!!! - Hopefully it comes to more devices soon!!!

Can't wait!!

Oh, how I've dreamed about having a small Skype video widget tucked up in the corner, while I'm looking at other things...

It'll be worth the wait ;-)
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Looks interesting - I don't know how useful it will be on the Note, though.

Yeah, it looks good but it might get pretty small and difficult to use on the Note.

leppo said:
Oh, how I've dreamed about having a small Skype video widget tucked up in the corner, while I'm looking at other things...
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Wave Launcher currently allows widgets to be popped up over the current app. Obviously it gets in the way, and there is not really enough room on the Note. This approach does seem great for tablets, but for the Note? I need every pixel to see what I am using, having tired old eyes.
To be honest I always assumed a tablet could be used a bit like that. I'll find out when my FlyTouch5 arrives, I guess!

When is the release date?
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This app is making my Note look pretty small. Hopefully once the eyes get trained, it should not be that difficult on note atleast for few apps !!!

Since your note has a high resolution it won't eat up too much screen space.
It will be small yes, like everything on the note.....

Feb?
rossygnol said:
When is the release date?
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They say Feb. I am v interested, I must say!

Expect a release very soon ;-)
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Pretty ****ty if you ask me.
They've just mashed everything together and hoped it sticks. I've designed a better way of doing it...if only I could code it into a Cyanogen ROM !

Oh, wow...this really looks promising! Looking forward!

Kangal said:
Pretty ****ty if you ask me.
They've just mashed everything together and hoped it sticks. I've designed a better way of doing it...if only I could code it into a Cyanogen ROM !
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Any demos on what you have done Kangal??
I am very very interested in the ability to properly multitask in android and would pay for your app/hack if it is on the same level as cornerstone as I am in dire need of this functionality... Seriously.

qazzi76 said:
Any demos on what you have done Kangal??
I am very very interested in the ability to properly multitask in android and would pay for your app/hack if it is on the same level as cornerstone as I am in dire need of this functionality... Seriously.
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Me too!
I'm coming from a Nokia N900 and I really miss the multitasking concept on its maemo operating system.
Best multitasking mobile system that I've seen so far by now.
Regards.

Kangal said:
Pretty ****ty if you ask me.
They've just mashed everything together and hoped it sticks. I've designed a better way of doing it...if only I could code it into a Cyanogen ROM !
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Hi Kangal. Too me, it makes a good compromise between a desktop environment and android's current state. I also like how it partitions the screen. Anyways they have gone open source and are providing a ROM for Motorola Xoom and source code for developers to incorporate into other devices and improve. This is a good thing!
Check their updated website.
http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/

Did I waste my money?

This tablet doesn't appear to be worth the $400 I paid for it. The tablet itself is just boring and laggy, a ton of incompatible apps and games (due to both the tab and devs)... I mean damn, this tablet is a real disappointment. What reason do I have for justifying this tab s purchase? On top of all that, Samsung really ****ed up in the tablet area.
Seriously; give me some reasons why I. Shouldn't trash this cheap and. Get something better.

And your better would be?
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kb909 said:
And your better would be?
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The ipad obviously
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Get a leap frog. My kid loves his.
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And your better would be?
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Nexus 7. Or at the time of purchase, ASUS Transformer Prime.

The tab its awesome.. Just flash cm9 and wait few days for Samsung to release the official ics to get the working camera... Ics rocks in the gtab 10.1 its a completely different product
And as soon as Samsung releases ics files and Google releases jb source we will have jb in the tab being beyond smooth...
Take it easy enjoy your tab good things are about to happen
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GazaIan said:
This tablet doesn't appear to be worth the $400 I paid for it. The tablet itself is just boring and laggy, a ton of incompatible apps and games (due to both the tab and devs)... I mean damn, this tablet is a real disappointment. What reason do I have for justifying this tab s purchase? On top of all that, Samsung really ****ed up in the tablet area.
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In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Seriously; give me some reasons why I. Shouldn't trash this cheap and. Get something better.
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Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.

BarryH_GEG said:
In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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Well said bro If you want to be limited by what fruit dictates rather get a fruit People that know better and want better get what works for them/us.
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Did I waste my money?
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Yup.

kb909 said:
And your better would be?
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The person your responding to is a troll.
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brisdaddy1207 said:
The person your responding to is a troll.
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Really? I'm a troll because I dislike this piece of **** tablet? I've been an Android user since 2008, since the dawn of the G1, but I'm a troll for disliking a product? Kill yourself. The other Android users are right; Samsung fanboys are some of the most defensive, stuck up people ever. Just because I'm a long time Android user doesn't mean I'm afraid to call out a ****ty product when I use one.
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Yup.
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Short and sweet answer, straight to the point and no trolling. You sir, get a free thanks.
BarryH_GEG said:
In the entire rant above you never once mentioned anything specific that: 1) you want to do, 2) you can't do. I use mine for streaming video from Plex and PlayOn (Hulu Plus, HBO GO) over Wi-Fi and 3G, download and watch HD movies from Google Play, read books and magazines, catch up on the news through dedicated apps and the browser, control my Google TV's with the remote app, use it navigate all over the world with CoPilot, etc., etc. That doesn't seem boring to me. Of course a newer tablet with a Teg3 processor is going to be faster. But for doing what I described above the G-Tab is more than capable. And when the ICS update is released in a couple of weeks it'll get a lot smoother too. Look at it this way, with all the tablets in the world for Apple to try and get banned they picked the G-Tab. Kind of flattering actually.
Personally, I and I'm assuming others could care less what you do better you convince you to stay with a device you're clearly unhappy with.
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It's not exactly about what it can and can't do, it's how it does it. Biggest problem I'm having with this is lag, the lag is ridiculous, and it's pretty funny because a lag free experience was what nVidia boasted about at the debut of Tegra 2.
msedek said:
The tab its awesome.. Just flash cm9 and wait few days for Samsung to release the official ics to get the working camera... Ics rocks in the gtab 10.1 its a completely different product
And as soon as Samsung releases ics files and Google releases jb source we will have jb in the tab being beyond smooth...
Take it easy enjoy your tab good things are about to happen
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Running CM9 right now (I LOVE Aokp on my Sensation, myTouch, Galaxy Nexus but AOKP is a bit odd on the tab, and crashy). Some apps are smooth, some are laggy as ****. egl drivers on this really suck though, it could be a lot better. Gonna wait and see how good (or how bad) ICS runs with Samsung's official drivers. If it's still awful then I'm just gonna get rid of this crap and go for a Nexus 7. ASUS actually does **** right and gets it right. That's why Google made them the official Nexus 7 manufacturer, and that's one of Google's best choices ever.

I wouldn't pay 400 for the GT today. A year ago, it was well worth it. If your problem is with apps, get the the iPad. If it's speed, get the Transformer Infinity or the Nexus 7. Simple.
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akarol said:
I wouldn't pay 400 for the GT today. A year ago, it was well worth it. If your problem is with apps, get the the iPad. If it's speed, get the Transformer Infinity or the Nexus 7. Simple.
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I have no problem with apps at all, Google Play is amazing annd has a great selection of apps. But this tablet can't run most apps without lag, and it's ridiculous. iOS is an extremely boring and disappointing OS so any of those iCrap devices can go dig a hole and die in it. I want the Transformer Pad Infinity, but with $500+ vs $199 (and tax, shipping), with the only significant different being screen resolution... The Nexus 7 is hard to pass up. Sadly my laptop is ****ting out so I might have to pass up on the Nexus 7 for now and get a new laptop, but God damn.... You really have no idea how much I want that Nexus 7.

I'm still running HC 3.2 cause I want the camera but task650 has done a great job. I don't see any lag but some apps don't work which is a bummer, but I still don't think its a waste.

Lag has always been an issue but I've always just lived with it hoping for ICS to come out and save the day. Still waiting (have the verizon tablet and paying for mobile data so no, CM9 is not in the cards for me). Now having a One X in hand for my phone makes the GT feel even more long in the tooth but until there's another android based LTE tablet out there to jump to with better performance I'll stick it out with what I've got.

Depending on when you bought this, yes. I got this the first day it came out and for what it was, it was awesome. It was one of the first Android tabs and I've watched Android's tablet ecosystem grow. If you've passed this recently, there are way better options. I myself got a nexus 7, but there are lots of praise for the Asus infinity and people with their prime are generally happy with it. Good luck and see if you can get an exchange as the Samsung tab definitely isn't worth 400 anymore
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Its definitely not the fastest thing these days but I use it non stop and it runs games, music, movies, etc. just fine for me so I have no complaints. Official ICS would be cool though.
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Hey I am an Android user since G1 too and I am looking from the same perspective.
Here is what I am going to do with this crappy Tab:
I am not going to trash it but I will keep it and hate it.
This will help me remember not to get any heavily customized interface (Touchwiz, sense ... etc) device in the future and waiting 1 year for an update then getting dropped in the second update because my device cannot handle it because of the customization.
Moral: Keep it simple and light.
Can not say install CM instead, as it is not an valid alternative. Don't take me wrong but my level of reliability I am looking for is just higher than that.

HawaiianLaker said:
I'm still running HC 3.2 cause I want the camera but task650 has done a great job. I don't see any lag but some apps don't work which is a bummer, but I still don't think its a waste.
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True, GalaxyTask ROMs are actually the best ROMs here, which I find disappointing because ICS is a lot lighter than Honeycomb ever was. Even so, apps still lag, and every browser I use crashes.
muzzy996 said:
Lag has always been an issue but I've always just lived with it hoping for ICS to come out and save the day. Still waiting (have the verizon tablet and paying for mobile data so no, CM9 is not in the cards for me). Now having a One X in hand for my phone makes the GT feel even more long in the tooth but until there's another android based LTE tablet out there to jump to with better performance I'll stick it out with what I've got.
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I have a bad feeling ICS won't save the day either. I have an even worse feeling we'll just be getting ICS after Jellybean is released.
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Depending on when you bought this, yes. I got this the first day it came out and for what it was, it was awesome. It was one of the first Android tabs and I've watched Android's tablet ecosystem grow. If you've passed this recently, there are way better options. I myself got a nexus 7, but there are lots of praise for the Asus infinity and people with their prime are generally happy with it. Good luck and see if you can get an exchange as the Samsung tab definitely isn't worth 400 anymore
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The Transformer Prime was slowly being released when I got this, but it was sold out and patience is non existent with me.
salamt said:
Hey I am an Android user since G1 too and I am looking from the same perspective.
Here is what I am going to do with this crappy Tab:
I am not going to trash it but I will keep it and hate it.
This will help me remember not to get any heavily customized interface (Touchwiz, sense ... etc) device in the future and waiting 1 year for an update then getting dropped in the second update because my device cannot handle it because of the customization.
Moral: Keep it simple and light.
Can not say install CM instead, as it is not an valid alternative. Don't take me wrong but my level of reliability I am looking for is just higher than that.
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Nexus 7 is calling your name too

Its a shame your experience is so poor with this tab. I love the galaxy tab 10.1, running honeycomb 3.2. I luckily don't experience this lag and never have. I have the US model bought on first release a year ago and I still love it today. Use it for everything these days. Music, movies, streaming all from my WD Live hub, connect to my smart tv via HDMI or wifi direct. My mate bought the galaxy tab 2 10.1 yesterday and running them side by side the tab 2 was even smoother ics is an improvement but with touchwiz looks the same as honeycomb tbh.
Maybe you should take your tab back for a refund and do more research and see if there is something more suited to your needs.
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What apps does the iPad really have that Google doesn't? Any Apple plp chime in? x

Is it just that the apps are not meant for a 10 inch screen? I just don't see why every review I read is that the apps are just awful for the Nexus. Can anyone who uses both Apple and android respond? I'm strictly android....
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darkstar765 said:
Is it just that the apps are not meant for a 10 inch screen? I just don't see why every review I read is that the apps are just awful for the Nexus. Can anyone who uses both Apple and android respond? I'm strictly android....
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A great example is Facebook. Look at FB on the iPad vs an Android tab. There are a few others that I can't think of but as Android tablets gain popularity (and they are), the market will push developers to develop for the 10 inch platform.
Also, they apps on the N10 really are not that bad.

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A great example is Facebook. Look at FB on the iPad vs an Android tab. There are a few others that I can't think of but as Android tablets gain popularity (and they are), the market will push developers to develop for the 10 inch platform.
Also, they apps on the N10 really are not that bad.
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The Weather Channel and ESPN Scorecenter are great examples as well.

I don't require many apps for my tablet, but Android has horrible options when it comes to sports apps made for big screens. It is just awful. As far as weather you should try weather bug for tablets
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Eddog4DROID said:
I don't require many apps for my tablet, but Android has horrible options when it comes to sports apps made for big screens. It is just awful. As far as weather you should try weather bug for tablets
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Yea, sports apps. I forgot about them since I stopped installing them on my tablet because they were so bad

Agree with the others. The guy on The Verge hit it on the nose. Android tabs will be a bust until the app ecosystem is improved. The Facebook app is a great example of an app looking great on the iPad (even though I hate the layout) but looking/working like crap on Android. Hopefully this changes soon.
We have so many great Android developers but hardly any Android APP developers :/

SwiftLegend said:
Agree with the others. The guy on The Verge hit it on the nose. Android tabs will be a bust until the app ecosystem is improved. The Facebook app is a great example of an app looking great on the iPad (even though I hate the layout) but looking/working like crap on Android. Hopefully this changes soon.
We have so many great Android developers but hardly any Android APP developers :/
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Paper is major one for me.

The thing I have heard is... If you mostly use Google apps they all look amazing. This perfectly describes me, so it won't be a problem. No need for weather apps when I have a widget and no need for sports when I got Google now cards updating me.
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SwiftLegend said:
Agree with the others. The guy on The Verge hit it on the nose. Android tabs will be a bust until the app ecosystem is improved. The Facebook app is a great example of an app looking great on the iPad (even though I hate the layout) but looking/working like crap on Android. Hopefully this changes soon.
We have so many great Android developers but hardly any Android APP developers :/
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Hasn't Facebook already been described as poor for Android on all devices, never mind tablets.
In fact I seem to remember something about Facebook doing a complete refresh of the Android version only a few months ago. I expect this is due any day.
Now they throw ads in your face, I prefer my timeline widget (AP widgets) anyway. No ads get displayed. I hardly open the Facebook app.
Besides, opening the FB website via a browser (with desktop mode enabled) gives you far more control than the app on any other platform, including ipads.
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Cinemagram.

Its not the paid apps that hold it back IMO.
Most people use the same sites. Just want tablet versions of eBay amazon Expedia Facebook twitter. We get these others will follow...
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SwiftLegend said:
Agree with the others. The guy on The Verge hit it on the nose. Android tabs will be a bust until the app ecosystem is improved. The Facebook app is a great example of an app looking great on the iPad (even though I hate the layout) but looking/working like crap on Android. Hopefully this changes soon.
We have so many great Android developers but hardly any Android APP developers :/
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Verge has no right to talk about app ecosystem when their own app is a messy ****. I don't care about reviews who scores while testing the device for just few hours. I think something seriously wrong with android app developers. They are lazy, unimaginative. Google has given very clear guidelines about app development. But most devs would just create a wonky iOS_like application. Google is too generous. They should clearly block such apps from getting to the play store. I will rather take a good 10,000 apps compared to pathetic 700,000 apps that we have now. when apps have the capability to scale properly as per the size/resolution, why don't they make proper use of it? if the app developers are lazy, they don't deserve anyone's money.

I'm curious, why don't BIG COMPANIES make tablet apps for Android? I mean we're talking about FB, Twitter etc. You'd think at least the big apps would have droid tab apps by now.

BoneXDA said:
I'm curious, why don't BIG COMPANIES make tablet apps for Android? I mean we're talking about FB, Twitter etc. You'd think at least the big apps would have droid tab apps by now.
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Good point. As for FB/Twitter, it's an interesting case. G+ is a competitor for both. Actually this should be even more incentive for the social networking giants to release a great app for Android platform. Obviously at certain point G+ will start gaining because of it's wonderful integration with Android. They should come up with proper native app for Android.

BoneXDA said:
I'm curious, why don't BIG COMPANIES make tablet apps for Android? I mean we're talking about FB, Twitter etc. You'd think at least the big apps would have droid tab apps by now.
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OK, I only know FB from looking over my gf's shoulder from time to time, but what could an app have to offer on a 10" display that would make you choose it over the web page? In my view even on my N7 online community pages (including this one) are better viewed through a browser than the dedicated app.
One exception would be fast user switching support like in the twitter app.

Randomwalker said:
OK, I only know FB from looking over my gf's shoulder from time to time, but what could an app have to offer on a 10" display that would make you choose it over the web page? In my view even on my N7 online community pages (including this one) are better viewed through a browser than the dedicated app.
One exception would be fast user switching support like in the twitter app.
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A couple of things come to mind: multi-touch gestures (maybe web pages can offer this, but most don't), being able to access the app without being online, and -admittedly this is just out of habit though- I simply prefer opening and app to a webpage.

iOS on iPad actually has some really nice features. The stock keyboard can be made into the split keyboard, you can close an app with a gesture (pinch with 5 fingers), switch between apps by swiping with 3 fingers (I believe) from the edge. Just feels very polished and cohesive.
I still prefer Android but iOS does do a lot of things that make it feels really nice.

hot_spare said:
Verge has no right to talk about app ecosystem when their own app is a messy ****. I don't care about reviews who scores while testing the device for just few hours. I think something seriously wrong with android app developers. They are lazy, unimaginative. Google has given very clear guidelines about app development. But most devs would just create a wonky iOS_like application. Google is too generous. They should clearly block such apps from getting to the play store. I will rather take a good 10,000 apps compared to pathetic 700,000 apps that we have now. when apps have the capability to scale properly as per the size/resolution, why don't they make proper use of it? if the app developers are lazy, they don't deserve anyone's money.
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It's not lazy,
If you want to pay for my time to update our apps to support the 5% or so customers on tablets, I'm sure my company would be happy for you to do that.
At the moment, any time I suggest it, it gets shot down cause my time (and their money) is better spent on the other 95% if customers.
I would love for that to change, cause I hate crappy apps on my tablets, but these apps don't write themselves and somebody has to pay for it.
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alias_neo said:
It's not lazy,
If you want to pay for my time to update our apps to support the 5% or so customers on tablets, I'm sure my company would be happy for you to do that.
At the moment, any time I suggest it, it gets shot down cause my time (and their money) is better spent on the other 95% if customers.
I would love for that to change, cause I hate crappy apps on my tablets, but these apps don't write themselves and somebody has to pay for it.
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Maybe there's only 5% traffic from Android over iOS BECAUSE the app sucks and not the other way around?

iOS appears more polished because it's been exactly the same since it's initial release. The "updates" they roll out offer no real value, it's all "nice to haves" like 5 finger swipe for close..... I presume apple would now sue Google if they used this in Android.........
Or they will give you a feature that you should of had since day one, I.E MMS didn't come to iOS for ages, then when it finally arrived all the Apple users all got excited..........What's wrong with emailing images? It's free....... :\
Google actually realease beneficial changes in Android updates - NFC control where hardware avaliable, USB OTG drivers, better task management etc - They improve the OS behind the scenes and try to make it faster, smarter.
I find tablet apps are improving a lot on the Play Store now - Agreed there isn't much avaliable in the ways of sports apps. The Sky Sports News Center on iOS is way better than Sky Sports News on Android . Then again this is not Android/ Google's fault. It's way easier to submit an app for Android than it is iOS so it's the developers who are bottle necking the market here. Also - Facebook for Android is being re-based and taken away from HTML 5 (Which IIRC is actually prefered for Android - must be something to do with Facebook server side). So hopfully we will see a big change soon !
On the plus side - if you have the know how,. There's nothing stopping you getting the Android SDK writing your own app and installing on your tablet. Obviously on an Apple product this is not possible without a jail break , heaven forbid if you might want to use a piece of hardware that you own to run your own software! You can do this on Android - out the box, no root required (but you already knew that )
I used to have a Iphone 3Gs and now have a HTC ONE X and a Cube U30Gt (Nexus 10 coming) I would never go back to iOS. I have a very strong, but very biased opinion on the apple vs google front so I have probably been a bit unfair to Apple here......... Then again I have used both brands on many occasions so the end user experience is there.
I just dont like the idea of having to void the warrenty to be able to use a product to it's full potential - which with apple you have to do.
I think the question here should be.....What does Android have that Apple doesn't? - I could write a list as long as my arm