How does overclocking "happen"? Is it just like a file that says "you can do 1200 now, so go ahead" or are they specific cpu instructions needed to over clock. I was just wondering because every gingerbread build for the epic cant over clock
ugothakd said:
How does overclocking "happen"? Is it just like a file that says "you can do 1200 now, so go ahead" or are they specific cpu instructions needed to over clock. I was just wondering because every gingerbread build for the epic cant over clock
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They need the source kernal. Then, the commands can be found and adjusted, to put it over-simply.
Ok, I wasnt sure how simple it was. I knew they needed source, I just didnt know how overclocking was done at a kernel level. Or if it was at a kernel level.
What came first? The kernel or the microprocessor... lol
That's what I call a paradox
The microprocessor with a kernel in mind...
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What came first? The kernel or the microprocessor... lol
That's what I call a paradox
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What would be the plural form of the word "paradox"?
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paradoxes!
Should we be able to overclock even more with gingerbread or is 1.4mhz pretty much the safe limit? (even though I can still remember one of the Eclair kernels having a 1.6mhz speed setting)
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What would be the plural form of the word "paradox"?
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Paradoxen.
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Urdoinitrite! Lol
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tony45x220 said:
Should we be able to overclock even more with gingerbread or is 1.4mhz pretty much the safe limit? (even though I can still remember one of the Eclair kernels having a 1.6mhz speed setting)
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I'm pretty sure the 1.6 was a fake speed....( it really was at 1.3 or something but it said 1.6)
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I'm pretty sure the 1.6 was a fake speed....( it really was at 1.3 or something but it said 1.6)
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1.6 wasn't real. And its not mhz its Ghz when your over 1.0. Like 800Mhz,900Mhz,1.0Ghz or you can say 1000Mhz. <------ Tony45
But yeah 1.6 was fake just like FPS cap.
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Paradoxen.
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Seriously?
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I'm pretty sure the 1.6 was a fake speed....( it really was at 1.3 or something but it said 1.6)
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1.6 was absolutely fake. I run 1.4 all day but I have 1.45 and 1.48 test kernels and I can't run them at all. 1.4 seems to be it even though a couple of phones may be able to handle it.
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Think of the rom as the body of a car with the ability to choose the trim level to your comfort. The kernel meanwhile would be the engine with the option to add and subtract cams, headers, etc to for your needs. The higher the performance the worse off you gas/battery milage will be. Undervolting it would be like getting a custom tune that optimizes mixture levels (think air/fuel) from from idle to top end.
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I just got this on virtuous 3.1.0 with kings kernel BFS #5. This is the highest I've seen so I thought I should share.
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lol.
I was proud... Im now gonna try to get mine higher lol
Have y'all seen what the G2's doing overclocked? It's sick.
whats with the ads on screen shots??? your on rooted phones...ADFREE(market app)
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whats with the ads on screen shots??? your on rooted phones...ADFREE(market app)
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I actually leave mine on most of the time to support the devs who hand out free apps.
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Im not even getting 1200 on Redemptive 1.8. Is it purely the rom and kernel that are giving those scores? Im sure to kill any running apps via running services in the settings menu.
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I actually leave mine on most of the time to support the devs who hand out free apps.
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ha. I do that too. Even with flash and some websites.
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Im not even getting 1200 on Redemptive 1.8. Is it purely the rom and kernel that are giving those scores? Im sure to kill any running apps via running services in the settings menu.
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I never kill apps. Which kernel are you using and what are your setcpu settings.
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I never kill apps. Which kernel are you using and what are your setcpu settings.
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Well that's probably it... I have had the phone since release but have been afraid to do anything until a couple weeks ago.
I just installed my first rom - Redemptive Revolution 1.8 (love it BTW) but it came with the newest HTC kernel, so that's what I am using. I dont even have SetCPU on my phone. You think the sub 1200 is about right for not having it?
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Well that's probably it... I have had the phone since release but have been afraid to do anything until a couple weeks ago.
I just installed my first rom - Redemptive Revolution 1.8 (love it BTW) but it came with the newest HTC kernel, so that's what I am using. I dont even have SetCPU on my phone. You think the sub 1200 is about right for not having it?
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Alright, since you're new to this don't get caught up on numbers. Take a look at what Lou's got to say (and fwiw, I completely agree).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8734924&postcount=1875
What app are you guys using to benchmark?
my highest benchmark has been 1710 using skyraider vanilla 3.0 and kings kernal #5/#5
Wish i had a screenshot
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Have y'all seen what the G2's doing overclocked? It's sick.
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It is pretty sick but. I wish it was possible to clock the Inc to 1.5 gHz and be stable. Also some overclocks lately have been fake but its awesome that this one is real XD.
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What app are you guys using to benchmark?
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The app is called "Quadrant" and you can find it in the android market. XD Theirs also "Linpack" that you can use to test out Mega Flops.
got these scores had to redo test becuase drocap didnt capture screen like i wanted as you can see.. had to use shootme for second test and score droped a little. Im on ROM The new guy v5 with the blue theme v2. with king kernal bfs #5..love the ROM
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BTW i was reading above about app killing(which i usally do) and both these test were done w/o killing apps and such went straight to testing..
Uber Rom Rules!
On Uber Desire Z, I got 1745 on my incredible!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=861285
I got 3985 on my HTC HD2 which isn't even a native android device. lol
This is 100% legit & I currently hold the highest score I've ever seen. The system im running is in my sig & has no set cpu or overclocking enabled. It has parts of the operating system stored in the RAM which has much faster I/O than NAND.
quadrant honestly doesn't mean much
Hello
I was wondering if any devs would be able to get this working on our hero's It massively increases the I/o speed aswell as efficiency meaning a greater battery life I'm going to have a go my self later aswell.
Here are some screenies of what it does;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9541647&postcount=477
and the page;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859419
And progress on the CDMA side
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868982
Thanks
I posted a similar thread over on the cdma hero side, I'll keep an eye out over here and let you know if we make any progress
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I posted a similar thread over on the cdma hero side, I'll keep an eye out over here and let you know if we make any progress
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Oh okay thanks I'll link that too
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Oh okay thanks I'll link that too
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Interesting development over on our side, go check it out. I'm at work otherwise I'd go into more detail
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Damn if we get that to work on the Hero(es) that would be TOO awesome!! Then we can show newer phone you can teach an old dog new tricks.
I agree the benchmark score looks amazing but will this hack actually improve usability or performance? or is it just a hack that boosts the benchmark score?
Interesting... Not entirely sure how it works but and speed increase on the GSM is more than welcome
Feeyo has made a port into some test releases. You can get it here:
http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=583
The screenshot looks nice (Hero - Cf 1.7.2):
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The speed shown there is around the 700Mhz mark... nice.. but how is this different than flashing a 748Mhz kernel and using SetCPU to overclock your hero? or is it more to do with the internal working of data transfer?
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The speed shown there is around the 700Mhz mark... nice.. but how is this different than flashing a 748Mhz kernel and using SetCPU to overclock your hero? or is it more to do with the internal working of data transfer?
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It does more with the internal stuff. I can oc my phone to 768 and only get quad scores in the upper 400's
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It does more with the internal stuff. I can oc my phone to 768 and only get quad scores in the upper 400's
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Ahh ok, cool thanks! I wonder why cyanogen said they wont be supporting it though
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Ahh ok, cool thanks! I wonder why cyanogen said they wont be supporting it though
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I think he's toyed with it and couldn't get it stable and moved on to bigger things
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I think he's toyed with it and couldn't get it stable and moved on to bigger things
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What could be bigger than a huge performance increase??
Freeyo says hes got a stable release of it HERE (Click Me) running oh his Hero.
here is his performance test, first two OC'd to 710Mhz, the 3rd is using data>EXT
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What could be bigger than a huge performance increase??
Freeyo says hes got a stable release of it HERE (Click Me) running oh his Hero.
here is his performance test, first two OC'd to 710Mhz, the 3rd is using data>EXT
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Idk, it's just not on cyanogen's priority list for some reason hopefully this can be applied without using a separate rom, I'm on a cdma hero
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Feeyo's ROM is a hit or miss unfortunately, it either works or it doesn't. And quite sadly it doesn't work for me
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He got it stable
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Feeyo's ROM is a hit or miss unfortunately, it either works or it doesn't. And quite sadly it doesn't work for me
::EDIT::
He got it stable
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lucky! too bad i'm on a cdma hero
hey guys, quick update. we've got a couple cdma devs working on this. i think they're working on porting the script rather than cooking it into a rom so anyone can run it
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hey guys, quick update. we've got a couple cdma devs working on this. i think they're working on porting the script rather than cooking it into a rom so anyone can run it
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Thats excellent news
Awesome
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here's a link to our dev thread over on cdma:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872216
just wanted to share my results with i9000 2.3 ROM on My Vibrant
here is what i got ....Note the CPU score !!
also note high I/O because i have voodoo lagfix
so should avr same as NS around 1700 stock
Nice CPU score
3D is low because quadrant has issues rendering 3D correctly with 2.3
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This is very happy news. What is linpack saying?
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This is very happy news. What is linpack saying?
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same as NS 14-15
Is the i9000 2.3 made from the nexus s or is it from an official release for i9000?
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Is the i9000 2.3 made from the nexus s or is it from an official release for i9000?
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made from aosp 2.3 source code & possibly bits from nexus s dump
But how does the Scorpion score on 2.3?
This is excellent news, means the Dalvik Jit compiler is finally optimized to give the Hummingbird a performance boost.
But, what if this excitment is pre-mature? I want to see the nexus ONE(scorpion phone) running 2.3, what if 2.3 on a scorpion boosts their performance even more than it already did on 2.2!
Lets compare 2.3 vibrant to 2.3 scorpion, then we will know!
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This is excellent news, means the Dalvik Jit compiler is finally optimized to give the Hummingbird a performance boost.
But, what if this excitment is pre-mature? I want to see the nexus ONE(scorpion phone) running 2.3, what if 2.3 on a scorpion boosts their performance even more than it already did on 2.2!
Lets compare 2.3 vibrant to 2.3 scorpion, then we will know!
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Scorpion is not on the nexus one
Also Quadrant doesn't test MFLOPS... linpack does
The purpose of my post to show the galaxy S phones take advantage of JIT just like the NS..even though we pretty much knew this
The scorpion CPU is nothing more than a snapdragon with updated adreno GPU will pretty much have same linpack score as N1 snapdragon
this is great, but now i want the official gingerbread, when will samsung end the misery of consumers?!?!?
Awesome, thanks for the pic.
LOL @ no signal, are you sure your not on a iphone?
xriderx66 said:
LOL @ no signal, are you sure your not on a iphone?
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It needs a sim card to get a signal
demo23019 said:
It needs a sim card to get a signal
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oh.. ha jokes on me.
Upload CWM or ODIN version of this rom so we can do this too ?
I am assuming that this rom has taken supercurio's development further along
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Scorpion is not on the nexus one
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Correct, I meant snapdragon.
ozmulti said:
Upload CWM or ODIN version of this rom so we can do this too ?
I am assuming that this rom has taken supercurio's development further along
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No, this is supercurio's rom. He's simply showing the performance results of it. There is no fully functional Gingerbread rom for SGS phones yet. However, if supercurio continues at this pace, it may not be much longer
Thanks a lot for sharing this... although, you've just made the wait that much harder.
Wow if its true.I had similar cpu reading in quadrant while testing cm6 beta3 also.i even posted it here in excitement but later came to know that it excluded h264 test to get the inflated results...hope its not the same with gb port.
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Ok noob question......how do I figure out my score....
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Is It the Demo or something?
I made this thread solely for one reason: to show download links for over clock kernels. So you guys can post what you find and hopefully we can more widely spread HTC expresso over clock kernels
Isn't there like... 2? D:
SefEXE said:
Isn't there like... 2? D:
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yes, only 2 out there.
yeah i need one anybody have the links?
mattkaz said:
yeah i need one anybody have the links?
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yeah, here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?f=658
Theirs upto 960mhz on dumfuqs test kernel
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where is this test kernel?
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yeah, here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?f=658
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960 overclock
The highest i got was 903mhz but here you go Try your luck ht tp://w ww. mediaf ire.com/?h1ddap90qggrv vd (without the spaces: new user)
Isn't how high you can overclock related to the hardware instead of the kernel? I mean the kernel gives you the option, but without the hardware, you can't go that high, right?
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Isn't how high you can overclock related to the hardware instead of the kernel? I mean the kernel gives you the option, but without the hardware, you can't go that high, right?
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It is, that doesn't mean we can't have experimental kernels that push it to its limits. I've gotten up to 921 (without problems) on my phone.
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It is, that doesn't mean we can't have experimental kernels that push it to its limits. I've gotten up to 921 (without problems) on my phone.
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ah, so basically if your phone can be overclocked to the max on one kernel, you can try to use another kernel to push it farther, right?
so a certain amount of people have asked me for a particular smartass kernel..
here is a link to download
http://rapidshare.com/files/454352438/miguelthekernel3.zip
your welcome..
i take no credit for the kernel, i just happen to have it saved.
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so a certain amount of people have asked me for a particular smartass kernel..
here is a link to download
http://rapidshare.com/files/454352438/miguelthekernel3.zip
your welcome..
i take no credit for the kernel, i just happen to have it saved.
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I dont think we're actually allowed to have links on display for that particular kernel. Not yet anyways.
I have no problem taking it down at an admins request. But I'm sure they could do it themselves
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I dont think we're actually allowed to have links on display for that particular kernel. Not yet anyways.
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BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
Awesomeness
What frequency does miguels kernel go up to?
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864
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What frequency does miguels kernel go up to?
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Thanks...
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You could try drowning-child's kernel, it goes up to 960 (im stable @ 921), but smartass and wifi doesnt work (cm7 nightly problems i believe).
I just wanted to start a thread where people can post their working UV settings for faux's newest kernel. I'm at -25 for everything and -75 for 216MHz, but I know I can go lower. What do you guys have?
One thing to bare in mind was people list UV values in this thread is that not all phones are created equal. Just because someone can get down to certain settings doesn't mean your phone can as well.
Also, make sure you don't check off "set at boot" in the undervolting section of setCPU (or whatever app you are using) until you know that the settings are safe.
DK
DeathKoil said:
One thing to bare in mind was people list UV values in this thread is that not all phones are created equal. Just because someone can get down to certain settings doesn't mean your phone can as well.
Also, make sure you don't check off "set at boot" in the undervolting section of setCPU (or whatever app you are using) until you know that the settings are safe.
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Thanks for the info. Should clear things up for people.
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Still testing...
more info @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17151565&postcount=131
I have had great success with these settings.
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Still testing...
more info @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17151565&postcount=131
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I've yet to find a stable medium for uv settings..ill try similar to this and report back
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Any more and I get either reboots freezes or FC's
Stable, no reboots.
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Working for me thanks, hadda turn down my 216 setting. Working great now.
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Stable, no reboots.
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-50 on everything and -100 for 216MHz and 456MHz. Seems to be doing real good for me. Keep em coming
Hardcore but stable..
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Hardcore but stable..
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Wow can't handle anything this low without freezes or reboots. I'm at a level of very minor undervolting but that's alright, cool that everyone is sharing there's here.
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It is stable. No reboot.
havent had any reboots so far
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havent had any reboots so far
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Can you run a quadrant test on those settings? Mine freezes the quadrant app but the phone is ok...weird.
Edit: Disregard i rebooted now it runs...my bad.
Stable
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100mv diference rule no more necessary?
Yeh I'm thinking these settings are not actually being applied. From what I understand u can set the undervolting to whatever u want. Doesn't mean it will take and stick and actually work. Someone correct me if I'm wrong and this particular kernel allows more than a 100mv jump between.
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Originally Posted by faux123
The Dynamic Voltage Frequency Scaler (DVFS) has a built-in check for difference > 100mv (this is due to Tegra2's design, supposedly swings > 100mv is unstable for Tegra2 chipset in general). So any delta > 100mv will be limited to 100mv by DVFS automatically
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Got a reboot almost right away with that one.