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8525 has some bugs...

I bought an 8525 a couple of days ago and have been playing around with it. The 8525 has replaced my 8125, which I loved dearly...
I have noticed 3 major bugs in the device :
1) The 8525 does not indicate when you are using edge by the "E" icon. It simply has the "G" while producing edge speed.
2) The non-3G internet connection is terrible. It times-out quite often. For instance, when I try to check my email using pocket outlook it sometimes takes forever.. or when i am trying to access a website, it says locating for about 1-2 minutes before actually opening it up. When the internet is working without the those time-outs and lags, it works great (better then the 8125 in non-3G areas).
3) Pressing the power button (when the devices screen is off to save battery life) has a weird 2-3 second delay. This never happened with the 8125...
Here is my Device info:
Rom version : 1.34.502.1
Rom date : 9/21/06
Radio Version : 1.16.00.00
Protocol version : 32.53.7018.01H
The main reason I am posting this is to find out if I am the ONLY one experiencing these problems, if so, I am going to do a warranty exchange swap. If anybody has any suggestions or comments please share it here..

blkwrxwagon04 said:
I bought an 8525 a couple of days ago and have been playing around with it. The 8525 has replaced my 8125, which I loved dearly...
I have noticed 3 major bugs in the device :
1) The 8525 does not indicate when you are using edge by the "E" icon. It simply has the "G" while producing edge speed.
2) The non-3G internet connection is terrible. It times-out quite often. For instance, when I try to check my email using pocket outlook it sometimes takes forever.. or when i am trying to access a website, it says locating for about 1-2 minutes before actually opening it up. When the internet is working without the those time-outs and lags, it works great (better then the 8125 in non-3G areas).
3) Pressing the power button (when the devices screen is off to save battery life) has a weird 2-3 second delay. This never happened with the 8125...
Here is my Device info:
Rom version : 1.34.502.1
Rom date : 9/21/06
Radio Version : 1.16.00.00
Protocol version : 32.53.7018.01H
The main reason I am posting this is to find out if I am the ONLY one experiencing these problems, if so, I am going to do a warranty exchange swap. If anybody has any suggestions or comments please share it here..
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Yes you're the only one with these problems. I don't know how they had the nerve to sell you it. I have searched the threads and posts here and let me see.... no ... nobody's had anything like this.
I'd take it back!
Edit: OMG look what I just stumbled on! Stop the presses perhaps not MAJOR bugs but still bugs of mass destruction!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280383
Mike

blkwrxwagon04 said:
I bought an 8525 a couple of days ago and have been playing around with it. The 8525 has replaced my 8125, which I loved dearly...
I have noticed 3 major bugs in the device :
1) The 8525 does not indicate when you are using edge by the "E" icon. It simply has the "G" while producing edge speed.
2) The non-3G internet connection is terrible. It times-out quite often. For instance, when I try to check my email using pocket outlook it sometimes takes forever.. or when i am trying to access a website, it says locating for about 1-2 minutes before actually opening it up. When the internet is working without the those time-outs and lags, it works great (better then the 8125 in non-3G areas).
3) Pressing the power button (when the devices screen is off to save battery life) has a weird 2-3 second delay. This never happened with the 8125...
Here is my Device info:
Rom version : 1.34.502.1
Rom date : 9/21/06
Radio Version : 1.16.00.00
Protocol version : 32.53.7018.01H
The main reason I am posting this is to find out if I am the ONLY one experiencing these problems, if so, I am going to do a warranty exchange swap. If anybody has any suggestions or comments please share it here..
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Here is my experience so far:
1) I have yet to see an E indicator for Edge. I live in LA and we are still waiting for our 3G deployment so edge is all we get. I do want to point out that on page 25 of the 8525 manual it does not indicate that there is an edge indicator/symbol display specifically for edge.
2)The non-3G connection here in LA has always been spotty at best so I can't really comment on that. I do however notice that I cannot connect to a lot of the streaming content at locations where it was possible with my 3125 just a week ago. Also it take longer to get the streaming playing if it does connects.
3) For me the delay for power up from power save is about 1 second.
I have never used a 8125 before so I have no way of comparing the behavior of the two.

blkwrxwagon04 said:
1) The 8525 does not indicate when you are using edge by the "E" icon. It simply has the "G" while producing edge speed.
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I can't confirm this because I've not left my excellent 3G signal area yet but from what I understand the current rom doesn't differentiate between GPRS and EDGE.
blkwrxwagon04 said:
3) Pressing the power button (when the devices screen is off to save battery life) has a weird 2-3 second delay. This never happened with the 8125...
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Mine is a 1 second delay. No DSODs though, so it's no big deal for me.

well....i too just upgraded from the 8125...and i find the edge to be a lil suspect. sometimes i take longer than it should to pull up my email.
as far as the power button....it takes longer to turn it on when the screen is locked than the 8125.

The speed of a EDGE or GPRS connection also depends on the serving cell's current capacity. If there is too much traffic, you won't get the maximum of timeslots and so bandwidth will go down. 3G is not very different regarding this issue, but the most likely capacity bottleneck is the basestation's connection to the core network. Here in Germany a lot of 3G basestations have only 2 MBit/s connections, so two HSDPA-clients can use capacity to the full.

inquisitor said:
The speed of a EDGE or GPRS connection also depends on the serving cell's current capacity. If there is too much traffic, you won't get the maximum of timeslots and so bandwidth will go down. 3G is not very different regarding this issue, but the most likely capacity bottleneck is the basestation's connection to the core network. Here in Germany a lot of 3G basestations have only 2 MBit/s connections, so two HSDPA-clients can use capacity to the full.
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Yes indeed.
For those looking for some general background to these technologies this bit of research provides good background.
HELSINKI UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY
DEPARTMENT OF COMPUTER SCIENCE
TIK-109.551
Research Seminar on Telecommunications Business II
POSITIONING EDGE IN THE MOBILE NETWORK EVOLUTION
12.3.2003
Vesala Sami 47278H
Koivu Katja 44217E
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cach...l's+current+capacity&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=8
Mike

blkwrxwagon04 said:
I bought an 8525 a couple of days ago and have been playing around with it. The 8525 has replaced my 8125, which I loved dearly...
I have noticed 3 major bugs in the device :
1) The 8525 does not indicate when you are using edge by the "E" icon. It simply has the "G" while producing edge speed.
2) The non-3G internet connection is terrible. It times-out quite often. For instance, when I try to check my email using pocket outlook it sometimes takes forever.. or when i am trying to access a website, it says locating for about 1-2 minutes before actually opening it up. When the internet is working without the those time-outs and lags, it works great (better then the 8125 in non-3G areas).
3) Pressing the power button (when the devices screen is off to save battery life) has a weird 2-3 second delay. This never happened with the 8125...
Here is my Device info:
Rom version : 1.34.502.1
Rom date : 9/21/06
Radio Version : 1.16.00.00
Protocol version : 32.53.7018.01H
The main reason I am posting this is to find out if I am the ONLY one experiencing these problems, if so, I am going to do a warranty exchange swap. If anybody has any suggestions or comments please share it here..
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1. I have never got a E but I am not to sure if Telstra even has a Edge network.
2. I have never been out of UMTS coverage since I got it so I don't know.
3. It takes about 1 second for mine to start-up.

Everthing working great, but no E for Edge either!
blkwrxwagon04 said:
I bought an 8525 a couple of days ago and have been playing around with it. The 8525 has replaced my 8125, which I loved dearly...
I have noticed 3 major bugs in the device :
1) The 8525 does not indicate when you are using edge by the "E" icon. It simply has the "G" while producing edge speed.
2) The non-3G internet connection is terrible. It times-out quite often. For instance, when I try to check my email using pocket outlook it sometimes takes forever.. or when i am trying to access a website, it says locating for about 1-2 minutes before actually opening it up. When the internet is working without the those time-outs and lags, it works great (better then the 8125 in non-3G areas).
3) Pressing the power button (when the devices screen is off to save battery life) has a weird 2-3 second delay. This never happened with the 8125...
Here is my Device info:
Rom version : 1.34.502.1
Rom date : 9/21/06
Radio Version : 1.16.00.00
Protocol version : 32.53.7018.01H
The main reason I am posting this is to find out if I am the ONLY one experiencing these problems, if so, I am going to do a warranty exchange swap. If anybody has any suggestions or comments please share it here..
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Just wanted to advise, my 8525 shipped with the exact specifications as yours. I too am not receiving an "E" for Edge transmissions. However, as one of the previous posts suggests, we may never receive an actual "E" up top in our display. Haven't had any of the timeouts you are experiencing either. My email and browsing via GPRS/Edge(Edge if I truly am receiving it) works fine. No timeouts on either e-mail retrieval or browsing at this time. Over 2 days battery life so far between charges. Woohoo! Also, in terms of actually switching from stand-by mode to power up, takes approx. 1 sec. as well. I have not yet been in a UMTS area, so I cannot advise of battery life,performance issues related to that. I'm still loving my device!

What data plan are you using media net or pda connect?

blkwrxwagon04 said:
What data plan are you using media net or pda connect?
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PDA Connect. I did read somewhere on the web that there is a client for Blackberry Connect, just can't remember where/which website it was.

mikechannon said:
Yes you're the only one with these problems. I don't know how they had the nerve to sell you it. I have searched the threads and posts here and let me see.... no ... nobody's had anything like this.
Mike
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#2 is definitely a problem...
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=22955

TheCritic said:
#2 is definitely a problem...
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=22955
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Yes your right of course, I was being petty cos these problems are already posted elsewhere. Sorry for being childish.
I have to say though here in Aberdeen Scotland my GPRS connection is super fast, faster than my wifi connection and it's not on 3G due to my ancient sim card (must get a new one). So more to do with coverage/local GPRS conditions I guess. Weird cos until a few days ago it continually timed out with page not found and now works amazingly well. I changed nothing and I do not pay for a data tarriff!! I do of course get charged for bytes downloaded but still lots of folk on o2 like me don't get this unless they have a data contract. Weird.
Mike

For those of you who have connection problems, try switching to the isp.cingular AP (requires the PDA Connect plan). I had all sorts of difficulties when using the default wap.cingular AP, but the ISP one works fine...

jeffreycentex said:
For those of you who have connection problems, try switching to the isp.cingular AP (requires the PDA Connect plan). I had all sorts of difficulties when using the default wap.cingular AP, but the ISP one works fine...
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(boohoo)But I don't wanna pay $25 more a month... (/boohoo)
I'm thinking about it, I just want to know for sure it'll fix these problems because I probably can't go back if it doesn't...
Is it possible to test the isp.cingular settings (and get charged) before switching, or do they not work at all without PDA connect on my account?

Just as a headsup to everyone who got the 8525 from Cingular, one of the things I was able to find out is the "G" in this case, also stands for Edge, I also believe it may or may not be in the documentation but have not been able to confirm that yet, so in this case:
"G" - GPRS, GSM and EDGE
"U" - UMTS and HSDPA
Please take this with a grain of salt.
JB

Can anyone explain the difference between the "wap.cingular" and the "isp.cingular" configurations and the step necessary to make the adjustments?
Also, I have been having some weird connectivity issues where my cingular signal become unstable when switching the Wifi radio on and off. The only way to recover is to soft reset the 8525.
I live in metro Philadelphia and have tested this both in the city and the surrounding suburbs.
Thanks!

blueshockey69 said:
Just as a headsup to everyone who got the 8525 from Cingular, one of the things I was able to find out is the "G" in this case, also stands for Edge, I also believe it may or may not be in the documentation but have not been able to confirm that yet, so in this case:
"G" - GPRS, GSM and EDGE
"U" - UMTS and HSDPA
Please take this with a grain of salt.
JB
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I've got an 8125 and an 8525 side by side in the same room, and the 8125 has an E, and the 8525 says G. Now, the documentation I have clearly distinguishes between the two. "Status Indicators" on the last page of the "Getting Started Guide."
I am using mediaNET on both.
This is a little annoying, but honestly, the speed is the same. Unless someone can confirm that this is causing lower speeds to be rejected, it's just an annoyance that, if I recally from my 2125, can be tweaked in the registry or some other simple tweak.

"Dial up"
Also, I'm having some irregularities using the 8525 as a "modem" for my computer. I have a C2D MacBook Pro, running Mac OS 10.4.8 and Windows XPSP2. With my 8125 I could use "dialup" on the Mac side via BT. On the Windows side, I could use dialup using the USB connection. (And BT in bootcamp)
I also have tested this with a regular plain HP PC laptop.
I have noticed that it doesn't always connect on the first try, whereas the 8125 always did. The connection speed is the same as tested on DSLreports mobile, but I have to say, I find this a little odd that it doesn't always connect.
I am far away from the nearest 3G area, so I won't be able to test it there until my next trip, but, oy....
Anyone else with this problem?

stormj said:
I've got an 8125 and an 8525 side by side in the same room, and the 8125 has an E, and the 8525 says G. Now, the documentation I have clearly distinguishes between the two. "Status Indicators" on the last page of the "Getting Started Guide."
I am using mediaNET on both.
This is a little annoying, but honestly, the speed is the same. Unless someone can confirm that this is causing lower speeds to be rejected, it's just an annoyance that, if I recally from my 2125, can be tweaked in the registry or some other simple tweak.
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The cingular rom on the 8525 DOES NOT (not yelling) include an E icon, only G and U. When in G you are actually on EDGE, run a speedtest and you will see. Hopefully they will correct this in the future release. And since there is no included E icon there is no reg tweak that will correct this.

Really annoyed data connection problems, and mini review

Got my blackstone today. Network unlocked and my step back into the world of windows mobile.
I stuck an O2 payandgo simcard in and connected the WIFI.
I then started playing, after a bit thought lets see what the 3g data speed is like found the o2 settings and set the data connection slider to on.
I moved out of range of the wireless and went on a couple of websites speed was good and useable for facebook etc.
However one massive problem on reconnecting to the wifi I left the data connection open as you would I mean it's on all the time right.
All of the traffic from the following web browsing nailed my £10 down to 17p.
It would not use the wifi saying in google maps "an internet connection is required" if I turn off the 3G data connection it connects through the wireless, turn it back on and it *****es and moans at me.
WTF I said rather loudly, so a data connection over 3G is a higher priority than my 20Mb cable line here over wireless.
The web stuff is good although opera is a bit irratating at times, we need skyfire for this beasty.
I love the screen and the keyboard works well. The touchflo is lagging quite a lot and the screens can take a bit of thinking before they close.
Not sure if I need to upgrade the firmware. 1.14.405.3 (222373) WWE.
I am really hacked off as now I have to put another £10 on the phone to test properly within my 14 days. Or just straight up send it back and get an X1 or an Omnia. Help me out guys.

Works fine for me, wifi prioritised over 3g whenever it's connected. However, some apps only select which connection to use when they're started, can't remember if this applies to googlemaps. Try restarting it and see if it works over wifi.
Useful tip if you want to control what uses 3g: goto control pannel/buttons, and set the end key to disconnect 3g. Then you have a quick shortcut to turn it off, and you can see at a glance in the status bar if it has reconnected (the H above the signal strength). It's also useful if you set the X button to close apps rather than minimise, otherwise you might still be using an app that thinks it's on 3G even when you come back into range of wifi.

Thanks for the reply arfster. What you say makes perfect sense, I have used the Tweak HD to change the close on x and set the end button as a 3g off switch. Will put another £10 on and see how it goes

With Tweak HD you can easily make the performance of the TF3D alot better. Made the device much better workable for me.

I have changed some settings and it has improved, I'm going to have a proper play with it when it's charged and some stuff has finished copying to it Overall I am very pleased with the hardware (camera excluded but I knew that), it makes one of the guys Iphone's look weak and feeble! the 8gb card in the box was a bonus as well
It's just some bits with the software that are bugging me, after looking around the forum a bit more it would seem that I have a World Wide English rom, need to know if I can upgrade to a euro rom of a later version. I'll keep updating this thread I think with my impressions as I go along, probably from the device most of the time to get used to the keyboard. Good times software can be fixed hardware can't.

There is an app called nodata which allows you to turn on and off GPRS data connection, You can simply toggle data connection off when you don't want to use your PAYG credit, no matter what apps are requesting for data.
BTW, there are tweaks to speed up your Touch HD device including Opera.

I got 3G & WiFi

I have both of them at the moment. Bought both. The WiFi indeed have a lighter back cover. The 3G is all black in the back. From the software perspective, very similar, no differences.
You can activate the 3G version via WIFI and not need to have the first month 3G service as some have described in the rumor.
The 3G version comes with a old build, the WiFi is two versions newer. So if you install flash beta on the 3G version, it will ask you to update the build as well. Where as WiFi, no issue with flash install.
Other than the back color and the verizon logo, pretty much identical.
I will post more finding on my post blog - http://mobiletech.knguyentu.com/2011/03/motorola-xoom-wifi-version-initial.html

I'm interested in two things:
1. Max screen brightness: any differences at all? Colors?
2. Battery Life: I'm wondering if the lack of a cell radio in the WiFi only version will help with battery life. With my 3G device I never used the cell radio but it still showed "cell stand-by" using 2%-6% of stand-by battery life. I'm hoping the lack of cell radio will add a little bit of battery life.
Thanks!

Old MuckenMire said:
I'm interested in two things:
1. Max screen brightness: any differences at all? Colors?
2. Battery Life: I'm wondering if the lack of a cell radio in the WiFi only version will help with battery life. With my 3G device I never used the cell radio but it still showed "cell stand-by" using 2%-6% of stand-by battery life. I'm hoping the lack of cell radio will add a little bit of battery life.
Thanks!
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Have you gone into settings and disabled mobile networks?

Steady Hawkin said:
Have you gone into settings and disabled mobile networks?
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Yup.........

Turn on airplane mode, then turn wifi on. That'l actually shut down the 3g radio.
Otherwise the radio wil still be on, you just won't use it.
This is easier if you have widgets that enable/disable certain things. (I use the weather paid widget widgets to do this, but any would work.)

c0t0d0s2 said:
Turn on airplane mode, then turn wifi on. That'l actually shut down the 3g radio.
This is easier if you have widgets that enable/disable certain things. (I use the weather paid widget widgets to do this, but any would work.)
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Well I've already returned my 3G model...just waiting for Amazon to deliver my WiFi model
This is still good advice for those with 3G model and would like a little more battery.
Thanks

You can didable 3g in setting.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk

okay man forget the 3G thing I took it back already
1. how is battery life on wifi only compared to 3g version
2. how is the screen. is max brightness the same on wifi? How do colors compare? Side by side screen comparison would be cool to see if there are any differences.
thank you

Any noticeable weight difference or thickness difference? I am wondering if they just took out the PCI modem or substituted a new board.

felt like same weight, same thickness side by side.

i have noticed better color, faster startup from cold boot, better brightness from 3g to wifi

ebpman said:
i have noticed better color, faster startup from cold boot, better brightness from 3g to wifi
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Thank you for the info

Old MuckenMire said:
Thank you for the info
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He was pulling your leg. There is virtually no difference in anything except the 3g/4g radio and maybe the color of the back of the device. I have both in my possession. 3g is for me. Wifi is for the wifey.

jdenman03 said:
He was pulling your leg. There is virtually no difference in anything except the 3g/4g radio and maybe the color of the back of the device. I have both in my possession. 3g is for me. Wifi is for the wifey.
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actually he posted the same thing in another thread
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12444826#post12444826
he sees a difference between the two he had/has

It seems the WiFi version is much more stable than 3G version. From looking at the build, the WiFi is 3 build newer...
WiFi - HWI69
3G - HWI66
that newer version could attribute to more stable USB connection, more snappy usage, and potentially better screen clarity.
Another piece....
3G version is very picky on the USB cable. You need to use the actual USB cable that came with the Motorola Xoom. WiFi version on the other hand, I can use the generic version fine. A cheap $2 one I get at fry's.
I tried on the same PC, so it is not the PC differences.

How about sound quality? Is the wifi only version louder/clearer or the same as 3G version. Thanks

Seems the same to me. They both have stereo hardware.

smilepak said:
It seems the WiFi version is much more stable than 3G version. From looking at the build, the WiFi is 3 build newer...
WiFi - HWI69
3G - HWI66
that newer version could attribute to more stable USB connection, more snappy usage, and potentially better screen clarity.
Another piece....
3G version is very picky on the USB cable. You need to use the actual USB cable that came with the Motorola Xoom. WiFi version on the other hand, I can use the generic version fine. A cheap $2 one I get at fry's.
I tried on the same PC, so it is not the PC differences.
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You do know the latest update for the 3G is HRI66 and NOT HWI66. You have this mixed up.

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You do know the latest update for the 3G is HRI66 and NOT HWI66. You have this mixed up.
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Did not know that. Thanks for pointing it out.

I have noticed the same finicky unstableness when it comes to the USB cable. Someout right weirdness too with JUST the cable causing the computer to recognize and attempt to connect to a ghost device. (wierd groundings? bad connections?)

Just got another update

just got my 2nd update just now. It said it was for WIFI stability and security updates. it says the software version is MMB29M.G935VVRU2APB5

I just got it also.

Since the update.. My router speeds are slower now dropped from 400Mbps to 300Mbps and Internet is now getting about 150Mbps from 170Mbps. So its slowed it some... But as for stable.. Too soon to tell.

I never had stability problems my connection is just slow, I want to see battery optimization in the changelog

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I just got it also.
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after the update my phone began to heat up to the point where it was uncomfortable to hold....shutting off and letting it cool down.

So far so good with PB5

I took it about 2 hours ago. I'm hoping tomorrow android system will be better...

I got the update and applied it. I do not remember having any WiFi issues, so I can not tell if this made any difference. All apps (including FoxFi) work fine after the update.

I had no problems w/ WiFi before the update...now I'm occasionally having to cycle the radio because I lose both internet and intranet connectivity at home even though the status bar icon shows both up and down activity.

It most likely doesn't change much at all. I'll take it and post if I notice anything. Btw, how's that root coming?

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I had no problems w/ WiFi before the update...now I'm occasionally having to cycle the radio because I lose both internet and intranet connectivity at home even though the status bar icon shows both up and down activity.
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Same here, I had no issues before. Now my WiFi is totally unstable and inconsistent. So frustrating. Is there a good way to downgrade to previous firmware?

[Wifi Issues] Not what you may expect

Hi all, just picked up a Tab S5E today - love the screen, built quality etc. What I don't love is the Wi-Fi performance. I'm left very confused.
I installed Android 10 right out the box and did a clean reset - after which my link speed in Wi-Fi settings shows 86 mbps throughput. For reference, my other phones (Oneplus 5 - 3 years old and Oneplus 8 Pro both show 866mbps receive and transmit speed).
When right next to the router I get a max of about 150mbps, with an average of 80mbps on Speed Tests - This is the case whether holding the tablet or not. When about 5 metres away through a wall this goes down to 45-55 Average, in comparison both phones show around 280-330 average.
When right next to the router with my other phones I get my networks full download which is 550mbps.
I understood before purchasing that if holding the tablet in the bottom left corner when in horizontal position (camera on the left) you are likely to lose signal - potentially mitigated with using a case. However, by wrapping my hands round the left antenna, on average - the speed increases to around 150-170 - odd...
When attempting to put pressure on the antennas from both ends and firmly wrapping my hands around the tablet, I do not see any network connectivity issues relating to dropouts and the WiFi bars remain on 5.
Honestly not got a clue what's happening here, either who have decently fast connections don't big this up online, or this is just a weird hardware fault with my unit.
Pretty disappointed. If anyone has any advice / screenshots of their speed results higher than this - I would greatly appreciate this, in which case I will definitely pursue a replacement device. I can't accept that in 2020 a device cannot achieve full 5.8ghz WiFi speeds when directly next to the router.

There is nothing wrong with your device. The maximum WiFi speed on the Galaxy Tab S5e is around 160 to 180 Mbit/s. I didn't expect this either when I bought this model and it is also a major bummer for me.
The device supports 802.11ac, but unfortunately Samsung only put a single antenna into it which limits it to a single MIMO stream (on a 80 MHz channel that gives you theoretical 433 Mbit/s throughput, which of course no device will ever reach). I would expect something around 220 Mbit/s with this configuration, but somehow the maximum speed I get with this device is only around 160 to 180 Mbit/s. It is not only the speed that is bad, it is also the signal strength that is exceptionally bad compared to all my other devices.
Your phones and other devices probably have two antennas and support 802.11ac with 2x2 MIMO which gives you theoretical throughput of 866 Mbit/s and around 500 Mbit/s in practice.

Thank you for your reply. I just received a replacement unit and tested before updating to the Android 10 update. There was indeed something wrong with that previous device as the link speed shows 433mbps and I consistently got 280-295mbps download.
However, I just updated it to Android 10 - now it's completely gone again. Link speed 87mbps and downloads of 20-70mbps. This is most definitely a software issue which I'll be contacting Samsung about.

Matthius said:
Thank you for your reply. I just received a replacement unit and tested before updating to the Android 10 update. There was indeed something wrong with that previous device as the link speed shows 433mbps and I consistently got 280-295mbps download.
However, I just updated it to Android 10 - now it's completely gone again. Link speed 87mbps and downloads of 20-70mbps. This is most definitely a software issue which I'll be contacting Samsung about.
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I also got a WiFi issue when upgrading to Android 10. My tablet was working perfectly before the update but now will not auto connect. I agree this must be a software issue.

I have just upgraded my tablet to Android 10 and the Wi-Fi speed maxes out at 60 Mbit/s. I'm thinking about selling my device again, this is unusable.

rndm42 said:
I have just upgraded my tablet to Android 10 and the Wi-Fi speed maxes out at 60 Mbit/s. I'm thinking about selling my device again, this is unusable.
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All I can suggest is to create a bug report in Samsung members app. I did so over 10 days ago now and am awaiting a response. The more people that do so the better - a fix needs to be rolled out for this. Something's quite wrong with how the WiFi module is working after this update, probably driver related.

Has anybody tried wiping the cache partition in Recovery Mode? If that doesn't help back up your device and perform a Hard Factory Reset. That normally fixes any software issues.

iceepyon said:
Has anybody tried wiping the cache partition in Recovery Mode? If that doesn't help back up your device and perform a Hard Factory Reset. That normally fixes any software issues.
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With both the tab s5e's I've had I had reset them both twice, and cleared cache in recovery.
This is definitely an issue brought about with the update considering Android 9 was absolutely fine network wise.

Matthius said:
With both the tab s5e's I've had I had reset them both twice, and cleared cache in recovery.
This is definitely an issue brought about with the update considering Android 9 was absolutely fine network wise.
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In that case you may have purchased a unit from a bad batch.

iceepyon said:
In that case you may have purchased a unit from a bad batch.
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I disagree, this is definitely a new problem that was introduced with the recent Android 10 upgrade. Samsung made the Wi-Fi signal "more stable" by limiting the modulation type to QPSK (MCS-2) instead of 256-QAM (MCS-9) which effectively caps it to 87,8 Mbit/s on a 80 MHz channel. Instead of 180 Mbit/s with Android 9 (which was pretty bad), users are now getting around 50 Mbit/s (which is incredibly bad).

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rfb813 said:
I also got a WiFi issue when upgrading to Android 10. My tablet was working perfectly before the update but now will not auto connect. I agree this must be a software issue.
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My S5e won't auto-reconnect following the recent upgrade to Android 10. Also stutters and freezes for a while after restarting in various apps and settings. System software issues presumably.

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I disagree, this is definitely a new problem that was introduced with the recent Android 10 upgrade. Samsung made the Wi-Fi signal "more stable" by limiting the modulation type to QPSK (MCS-2) instead of 256-QAM (MCS-9) which effectively caps it to 87,8 Mbit/s on a 80 MHz channel. Instead of 180 Mbit/s with Android 9 (which was pretty bad), users are now getting around 50 Mbit/s (which is incredibly bad).
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Thanks for doing the research to find this out. This definitely explains exactly what I'm seeing.
Very disappointing as I was achieving fine speeds 290mbps or slightly higher prior to the update. Now WiFi on the whole is pretty poor in comparison.
Why was this done intentionally - it really makes no sense. Surely this must get reverted.

I just got an update this morning aimed at WiFi improvements

TheIntruder said:
I just got an update this morning aimed at WiFi improvements
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I can confirm this update has fixed all issues for me. Normal 433 link speed when next to the router and the same WiFi download speed as on Android 9.

Since updating to Android 10, I started having issues with mesh wifi (I'm using Google Wifi). Same position and setup that used to work perfectly with Android 9, now the table starts disconnecting from Wifi and I have to reboot to reconnect. Anyone else has this issue?

I'm contemplating buying an S5e tablet (in Australia). Does the reduced speed of WiFi impact on any practical applications ? My internet cable subscription is for 50mbps. It used to be 100mbps, but I dowgraded on purpose, seeing no benefit for the cost. Even at 50mbps (practically 46) we have moments like today when both myself and my son are working remotely to different employers, while my wife us watching a video. I realise there could be apps which require more bandwidth, so I'm just curious what those might be.

ludoo said:
Since updating to Android 10, I started having issues with mesh wifi (I'm using Google Wifi). Same position and setup that used to work perfectly with Android 9, now the table starts disconnecting from Wifi and I have to reboot to reconnect. Anyone else has this issue?
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That is exactly my problem as well. Google WiFi and random disconnects from the tablet that sometimes get fixed by disconnecting/reconnecting but majority of the time a restart is the way to solve it.
No other device in the household gets disconnected from the network (neither was the tablet before upgrading) so it is definitely the update to blame.

Having similar issues following the update. I tend to turn the tablet off when I'm not using it, and thus far I have yet to successfully connect to WiFi on startup. I have to manually toggle WiFi to get it back on.

Same wifi issue here after updating to Android 10. Is there a way to manually update using file some were receiving in late July?

I am really bothered by this GROSS limitation too! It makes issues with the driver even worse.
Maybe our answer can be found on this page or something or nothing ?
https://source.codeaurora.org/quic/la/platform/vendor/qcom-opensource/wlan/qcacld-3.0/