Hi all, just picked up a Tab S5E today - love the screen, built quality etc. What I don't love is the Wi-Fi performance. I'm left very confused.
I installed Android 10 right out the box and did a clean reset - after which my link speed in Wi-Fi settings shows 86 mbps throughput. For reference, my other phones (Oneplus 5 - 3 years old and Oneplus 8 Pro both show 866mbps receive and transmit speed).
When right next to the router I get a max of about 150mbps, with an average of 80mbps on Speed Tests - This is the case whether holding the tablet or not. When about 5 metres away through a wall this goes down to 45-55 Average, in comparison both phones show around 280-330 average.
When right next to the router with my other phones I get my networks full download which is 550mbps.
I understood before purchasing that if holding the tablet in the bottom left corner when in horizontal position (camera on the left) you are likely to lose signal - potentially mitigated with using a case. However, by wrapping my hands round the left antenna, on average - the speed increases to around 150-170 - odd...
When attempting to put pressure on the antennas from both ends and firmly wrapping my hands around the tablet, I do not see any network connectivity issues relating to dropouts and the WiFi bars remain on 5.
Honestly not got a clue what's happening here, either who have decently fast connections don't big this up online, or this is just a weird hardware fault with my unit.
Pretty disappointed. If anyone has any advice / screenshots of their speed results higher than this - I would greatly appreciate this, in which case I will definitely pursue a replacement device. I can't accept that in 2020 a device cannot achieve full 5.8ghz WiFi speeds when directly next to the router.
There is nothing wrong with your device. The maximum WiFi speed on the Galaxy Tab S5e is around 160 to 180 Mbit/s. I didn't expect this either when I bought this model and it is also a major bummer for me.
The device supports 802.11ac, but unfortunately Samsung only put a single antenna into it which limits it to a single MIMO stream (on a 80 MHz channel that gives you theoretical 433 Mbit/s throughput, which of course no device will ever reach). I would expect something around 220 Mbit/s with this configuration, but somehow the maximum speed I get with this device is only around 160 to 180 Mbit/s. It is not only the speed that is bad, it is also the signal strength that is exceptionally bad compared to all my other devices.
Your phones and other devices probably have two antennas and support 802.11ac with 2x2 MIMO which gives you theoretical throughput of 866 Mbit/s and around 500 Mbit/s in practice.
Thank you for your reply. I just received a replacement unit and tested before updating to the Android 10 update. There was indeed something wrong with that previous device as the link speed shows 433mbps and I consistently got 280-295mbps download.
However, I just updated it to Android 10 - now it's completely gone again. Link speed 87mbps and downloads of 20-70mbps. This is most definitely a software issue which I'll be contacting Samsung about.
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Thank you for your reply. I just received a replacement unit and tested before updating to the Android 10 update. There was indeed something wrong with that previous device as the link speed shows 433mbps and I consistently got 280-295mbps download.
However, I just updated it to Android 10 - now it's completely gone again. Link speed 87mbps and downloads of 20-70mbps. This is most definitely a software issue which I'll be contacting Samsung about.
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I also got a WiFi issue when upgrading to Android 10. My tablet was working perfectly before the update but now will not auto connect. I agree this must be a software issue.
I have just upgraded my tablet to Android 10 and the Wi-Fi speed maxes out at 60 Mbit/s. I'm thinking about selling my device again, this is unusable.
rndm42 said:
I have just upgraded my tablet to Android 10 and the Wi-Fi speed maxes out at 60 Mbit/s. I'm thinking about selling my device again, this is unusable.
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All I can suggest is to create a bug report in Samsung members app. I did so over 10 days ago now and am awaiting a response. The more people that do so the better - a fix needs to be rolled out for this. Something's quite wrong with how the WiFi module is working after this update, probably driver related.
Has anybody tried wiping the cache partition in Recovery Mode? If that doesn't help back up your device and perform a Hard Factory Reset. That normally fixes any software issues.
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Has anybody tried wiping the cache partition in Recovery Mode? If that doesn't help back up your device and perform a Hard Factory Reset. That normally fixes any software issues.
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With both the tab s5e's I've had I had reset them both twice, and cleared cache in recovery.
This is definitely an issue brought about with the update considering Android 9 was absolutely fine network wise.
Matthius said:
With both the tab s5e's I've had I had reset them both twice, and cleared cache in recovery.
This is definitely an issue brought about with the update considering Android 9 was absolutely fine network wise.
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In that case you may have purchased a unit from a bad batch.
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In that case you may have purchased a unit from a bad batch.
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I disagree, this is definitely a new problem that was introduced with the recent Android 10 upgrade. Samsung made the Wi-Fi signal "more stable" by limiting the modulation type to QPSK (MCS-2) instead of 256-QAM (MCS-9) which effectively caps it to 87,8 Mbit/s on a 80 MHz channel. Instead of 180 Mbit/s with Android 9 (which was pretty bad), users are now getting around 50 Mbit/s (which is incredibly bad).
Auto WIFI Reconnection problem
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I also got a WiFi issue when upgrading to Android 10. My tablet was working perfectly before the update but now will not auto connect. I agree this must be a software issue.
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My S5e won't auto-reconnect following the recent upgrade to Android 10. Also stutters and freezes for a while after restarting in various apps and settings. System software issues presumably.
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I disagree, this is definitely a new problem that was introduced with the recent Android 10 upgrade. Samsung made the Wi-Fi signal "more stable" by limiting the modulation type to QPSK (MCS-2) instead of 256-QAM (MCS-9) which effectively caps it to 87,8 Mbit/s on a 80 MHz channel. Instead of 180 Mbit/s with Android 9 (which was pretty bad), users are now getting around 50 Mbit/s (which is incredibly bad).
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Thanks for doing the research to find this out. This definitely explains exactly what I'm seeing.
Very disappointing as I was achieving fine speeds 290mbps or slightly higher prior to the update. Now WiFi on the whole is pretty poor in comparison.
Why was this done intentionally - it really makes no sense. Surely this must get reverted.
I just got an update this morning aimed at WiFi improvements
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I just got an update this morning aimed at WiFi improvements
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I can confirm this update has fixed all issues for me. Normal 433 link speed when next to the router and the same WiFi download speed as on Android 9.
Since updating to Android 10, I started having issues with mesh wifi (I'm using Google Wifi). Same position and setup that used to work perfectly with Android 9, now the table starts disconnecting from Wifi and I have to reboot to reconnect. Anyone else has this issue?
I'm contemplating buying an S5e tablet (in Australia). Does the reduced speed of WiFi impact on any practical applications ? My internet cable subscription is for 50mbps. It used to be 100mbps, but I dowgraded on purpose, seeing no benefit for the cost. Even at 50mbps (practically 46) we have moments like today when both myself and my son are working remotely to different employers, while my wife us watching a video. I realise there could be apps which require more bandwidth, so I'm just curious what those might be.
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Since updating to Android 10, I started having issues with mesh wifi (I'm using Google Wifi). Same position and setup that used to work perfectly with Android 9, now the table starts disconnecting from Wifi and I have to reboot to reconnect. Anyone else has this issue?
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That is exactly my problem as well. Google WiFi and random disconnects from the tablet that sometimes get fixed by disconnecting/reconnecting but majority of the time a restart is the way to solve it.
No other device in the household gets disconnected from the network (neither was the tablet before upgrading) so it is definitely the update to blame.
Having similar issues following the update. I tend to turn the tablet off when I'm not using it, and thus far I have yet to successfully connect to WiFi on startup. I have to manually toggle WiFi to get it back on.
Same wifi issue here after updating to Android 10. Is there a way to manually update using file some were receiving in late July?
I am really bothered by this GROSS limitation too! It makes issues with the driver even worse.
Maybe our answer can be found on this page or something or nothing ?
https://source.codeaurora.org/quic/la/platform/vendor/qcom-opensource/wlan/qcacld-3.0/
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Was wondering if anyone could help me.
I was loving almost everything about my elocity tablet, but wifi issues were same as initial g tablet.
Firmware came out yesterday that supposedly fixed this and for everyone in the main Elocity thread, it seems to have just done that.
I have applied it but have the following problem:
While I can see all the available networks, I cant seem to join any unless I am almost 5 feet from the router and despite seeing excellent signal I am only getting 1 mb/s link speeds. Rarely it wil go as high as five.
It is not a router issue as laptops and iphones connect fine. I have rebooted router and tried every permutation of wireless secuirty and wireless speed, b/g/n settings (the elocity is b/g only wifi). With no luck
Went to local McDonalds and could pick up 4 surrounding wifi networks with good to excellent signal and connected to them but again only a best of 1 or 2 mb/s.
I will be returning my device on account of this. Being in Canada I won't be able to get another (I am in USa with family for holidays for another week.)
I am hoping there is something in software I could do that might fix this as I like the device otherwise especially with quadrant scores in the 2400 range now.
I tried resetting the device and reflashing the firmware update to no avail. I don't know enough about android or linux to know if there is anything I can do delving deeper into the device to fix this?
It is almost like it only connects at wireless b and not g working so range is short and slow.
any thoughts or ideas before I send back as I have 2-3 days to wait for the RMA label.
Hi, i noticed recently that my wifi speed seemed poor so i did a few test.
-max dl speed is 0.6-0.7 Mbs on the same router weher my wife's Chacha gets 4-10 Mbs;
-the last recording in the bandwidth app shows i was getting around 4 Mbs (about a month ago).
I don't know what happened.
OS: 7.10.7720.68
FW: 2424.11.9.2
HW: 3.15.0.4
Radio sw: 2424.11.9.1
Radio hw: 0.0.0.800
Dose anyone have any ideas?
Thank you!
P.S. i haven't tried a hard reset as i don't want to loose all settings, messages and applications.
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I tried deleting some of the wifi settings from my phone and also the settings for my connection.
The first 3 speed tests showed 5-6 Mbs and i thought i fixed it... Sadly it isn't so... the speed dropped back to 0.6-0.7 Mbs. And deleting the settings again didn't fix it.
I am running out of ideas... Please help!
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...anyone? any idea?
This may be the old wifi/ mobile data bug which has been raised many times... try disabling mobile data and doing the test again.
I have excact same problem. 0,5 - 0,8 Mbps wifi, 4-8 Mbps on 3g... Youtube is useless on wifi.
My another phone Samsung Galaxy S gets almost 30Mbps on my home wlan.
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This may be the old wifi/ mobile data bug which has been raised many times... try disabling mobile data and doing the test again.
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Sadly it's not . I tried that (but forgot to mention in OP).
I get around 2-3 Mb on 3g anyway.
pichemanu said:
Sadly it's not . I tried that (but forgot to mention in OP).
I get around 2-3 Mb on 3g anyway.
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Same problems here. Rarely gets above 0.6Mb.
I tried a reset on the router, no luck
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I tried a reset on the router, no luck
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It's the phone, not your router, so there is not much you can do about it... sadly.
ballajalla said:
It's the phone, not your router, so there is not much you can do about it... sadly.
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Close, but no cigar.
It's probably the combination of the router incl. software and the phone. For whatever reason the negotiated transmission speed between the router and the Omnia is 1Mbps which explains the 0.6Mbit.
This is exactly what happens to me and it has nothing to do with 3G on or off.
You can try the following:
1) If you happen to have a Windows 7 computer with a wifi card you can make it an access point. Make sure your card used 802.11g only, then connect with your Omnia and your speed will go up to 5Mbps or more.
2) If you happen to have a router with dd-wrt you can try forcing the transmission speed to a fixed value. For me 9Mbps works best on my old Linksys WRT54G
So there's still hope.
Good luck.
Ive got ddwrt on my dlink dir-615, and even with static speed I get crap speed on my Omnia 7, which I didn't prieor to Mango. And saying that the design og Wifi (transfer rate negotiation) is part of the problem is just silly. It is the phone that is the problem, no doubt about that Thanks for the tip anyway!
I don't wanna argue whether this is silly or not even though your statement slighty annoys me, to be honest. Having said that, try setting
Network Mode: G only
Channel: 6
Basic Rate: All
Transmission Fixed Rate: 9 Mbps
Frame Burst: Enabled
RTS Threshold: 2270
Preamble: Short
Shortslot Override: Short
The above works fine for *MY* Omnia, maybe not yours. With the above settings I get around 5Mbps instead of 0.6Mbps, tested on two different Linksys dd-wrt routers.
There seem to be two kinds of problems. There are those Omnias where wifi is only fast when data is turned off and others where wifi is always slow (like in my case)
And for me the transmission speed is 1Mbps as I can see on dd-wrt even though I'm 2 ft away from the router. Whatever causes it, the transmission speed should be a little higher, shouldn't it?
Anyway, good luck.
No more wlan speed problems with Lumia 800 With Omnia 7 i had to disable mobile data to use wifi with proper speed.
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pichemanu said:
Hi, i noticed recently that my wifi speed seemed poor so i did a few test.
-max dl speed is 0.6-0.7 Mbs on the same router weher my wife's Chacha gets 4-10 Mbs;
-the last recording in the bandwidth app shows i was getting around 4 Mbs (about a month ago).
I don't know what happened.
OS: 7.10.7720.68
FW: 2424.11.9.2
HW: 3.15.0.4
Radio sw: 2424.11.9.1
Radio hw: 0.0.0.800
Dose anyone have any ideas?
Thank you!
P.S. i haven't tried a hard reset as i don't want to loose all settings, messages and applications.
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I tried deleting some of the wifi settings from my phone and also the settings for my connection.
The first 3 speed tests showed 5-6 Mbs and i thought i fixed it... Sadly it isn't so... the speed dropped back to 0.6-0.7 Mbs. And deleting the settings again didn't fix it.
I am running out of ideas... Please help!
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Apart from the OS version (which is 7.10.7740.16 on my device),
I have exactly the same issues and the same versions for
FW, HW, Radio sw and Radio hw.
All devices connected to my fritzbox 7330 are shown using 54Mbtit, Omnia 7 connects with 1-2Mbit. however, browsing feels smooth and Youtube is running without interruptions. Bandwidthtest on phone shows 0.5 Mbps mostly.
The interresting thing is, that in the firm I can get it up to 2.1 Mbps.(Guest Wifi, running WEP encryption). A Galaxy S connected to the same WLAN shows 10Mbps.
Setting my home WIFI to WEP temporarily had no effect however, the phone keeps connecting with 1 MBit.
Looks like a common issue though. Maybe related to radio S/W version?
Any ideas appreciated.
Cheers
Mike
I compared once wifi performance between my Omnia7 and friend's Galaxy S.
Unfortunately, it seemed like Galaxy S is snappier and had better reception. Well, maybe this will be improved with some new Samsung drivers, who knows...
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There seem to be two kinds of problems. There are those Omnias where wifi is only fast when data is turned off
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Yep got this exact problem on mine
Hello. First, great forum- I can feel the love, as well as the collective genius at work here. It's refreshing to find a forum where people actually know their sh*t on a real, technologically advanced level. It's relieving as well, considering the headache that my new G2 is causing... as follows:
This is a Sprint device and I am still within the time frame to return if a resolution is not found.
Issue:
1.) While wi-fi remains connected (doesn't drop), it is terribly slow, averaging .8 - 3 mbps. Whereas, other Samsung android devices are averaging 15-20 mbps. Internet is cable, and I have reset the modem without experiencing any performance increase. (technicolor TC8305C, bgn)
2.) 4g is no better, averaging a mind boggling .5 mbps. (Don't even get me started on 3g- .1-.3 mbps)
3.) If 4g is even able to connect, which is rare... it disappears and and is nowhere to be found, or be (re) enabled.
Attempted (unsuccessful resolutions):
1.) Performed Sprint recommended troubleshooting techniques:
a.) updated profile
b.) soft reset(s)
c.) hard resets- multiple
2.) contacted customer care: received "refreshers," and was walked through numerous settings and performed various resets.
Recommended CC resolution: return device for exchange.
3.) Sprint store attempted to identify problem, and in the process found that their demo, along with employee handsets (G2) as well as new unboxed versions had the same problem. They offered to switch to an S4 or Nexus5 for free, or wait a couple days to see if the LG rep could offer a fix.
(further) Resolution: pending
Here's the deal- I think we can all agree that this phone is kick ass. Therefore, I would rather not switch, as I enjoy the experience it provides, as well as the satisfaction of getting to really bond with a device when troubleshooting them. Though, this phone seems to be pretty 'buggy,' and while I don't mind tinkering with computing devices (been seeing the blue screen since win '95), I'm not sure I want to be dealing with the potential hassle with a device we all rely on day in and day out to be our life blood... plus, just because I don't see/haven't experienced the other issues others have, doesn't mean they won't potentially manifest down the road. :/ Maybe the Nexus 5 is the better choice... but it seems like cost cutting has taken place in a couple areas- battery (2300), and the camera. Almost like the G2 is the flagship and the other is mildly scaled down in certain aspects even though the end result is compelling for both.
Please know that I am scouring middle earth low and wide for resolutions, and have not composed this post without first looking and becoming familiar with other peoples similiar experiences. I will continue to fact find, and I apologize for not reading all related threads before posting, but time is of the nigh, as I am still within a time frame to return in case the problem is inherent to this specific device (a lemon). Plus, I don't quite understand everything you're talking about, as I've never had/chosen to dig that deep into the obscure settings and techniques I've seen listed (and also because I JUST got it) Hence, the user name- g2 n00b.
So thank you in advance for your time in helping with this. It is both greatly appreciated, and not without gratitude on my part. Also, I hope I displayed proper educate by formating this post in a manner which is easy to sort through. K. let the trouble shooting begin.
also, to the mods- sorry if this is thread/issue has already been covered elsewhere. I also posted this issue on another board and nobody had heard of this problem, so I am fairly confident that i may be justified in having poted this. However, feel free to delete/lock/merge/ if I just didn't see it.. but please provide the link so I can further fact find, because I'm stumped. Thanks.
I just did a speedtest on mine (Also on Sprint) using Wifi.
Same speeds I get on my PC.
It's an oddball suggestion but did you disable the Sprint connection optimizer?
Optimizer enabled. Though, I have tried disabling it and running diagnostics to no effect- doesn't matter what I do, it still won't exceed 3mbps, unless I am lucky enough to receive 4g in certain areas.. then it's a 'blazing' 3.5mbps, but usually .8. I have msl code and have adjusted band priorities and still no difference there, including ##72786 to reset default connections to make sure nothing was adversely affected after investigating the issue.
I'm really bummed. I love this phone. I feel like everything I felt I was missing in the S3/S4 are present here. Love the interface, form factor and all of the settings. Maybe I should take Sprint up on there offer to get an S4 a Nexus 5, but I REALLY don't want to go back to caveman battery hog status on the S4 and have to purchase a backup. I imagine the N5 is more efficient in this area, but it still has a 2300 battery vs 3000 in the G2. Needless to say, I'm frustrated and confused.. but often times, such is life.
Any thoughts on the N5, or suggestions to further trouble shoot are greatly appreciated and welcome?
I have disable the connection optimizer and have done this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47423537&postcount=1
The only other idea I have is hit up a coffee shop and due a speed test on their wifi.
The sprint stores by me have crappy wifi speed hence the coffee shop.
I seem to have mostly resolved the issue. I switched channels and encryption protocol. Apparently, my g2 didn't appreciate AES very much. Has anyone else seen performance differences with their device when comparing AES to TKIP? If so, are they drastic? I would think AES would be fine with the g2, considering how advanced it is. I consider it to be somewhat unfortunate if I am forced to select TKIP just so I can get a decent connection. That is, unless of course there are settings I can alter in the ##data# screen that can make better use of this encryption. Is there anything I can do now that I have narrowed down the culprit?
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I seem to have mostly resolved the issue. I switched channels and encryption protocol. Apparently, my g2 didn't appreciate AES very much. Has anyone else seen performance differences with their device when comparing AES to TKIP? If so, are they drastic? I would think AES would be fine with the g2, considering how advanced it is. I consider it to be somewhat unfortunate if I am forced to select TKIP just so I can get a decent connection. That is, unless of course there are settings I can alter in the ##data# screen that can make better use of this encryption. Is there anything I can do now that I have narrowed down the culprit?
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What wireless router are you using? I use a D-Link at home and my G2 kept connecting and disconnecting repeatedly. I was able to fix the problem by updating the router's firmware to the latest version. We've never had any problems with other wifi devices on our router, so it seems the G2 has some unique peculiarities WRT wifi.
I'm running AES with no issues, but noticed following.
LG (Sprint) connects first with a slow 72mbps and switches after a while to a faster speed of 433mbps
I have an Asus Router RT-AC66R, if I play around on the router with Frequencies or the wireless mode, LG would go down to a slow speed.
Don't have Optimizer enabled.
I suspect your problem is a router problem and not the phone.
Hi Guys,
I just got my Prime Day Essential set up and after updating to the latest Android 8.1.0 build with the July patches I'm one of the lucky ones with the 5ghz Wi-Fi issue, where when I connect to a 5ghz Wi-Fi, the connection and speed starts throttling down to no bandwidth at all. My workaround has been using the slower 2.4ghz SSID. I also have the issue where the Play Store download sometimes waits forever to download in the queue.
What do you guys do with this issue? Flash to Android P? Something else with you router?
I really don't think it's my router because obviously all other devices in the house are working flawlessly... Appreciate ANY help... Thank you!
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Hi Guys,
I just got my Prime Day Essential set up and after updating to the latest Android 8.1.0 build with the July patches I'm one of the lucky ones with the 5ghz Wi-Fi issue, where when I connect to a 5ghz Wi-Fi, the connection and speed starts throttling down to no bandwidth at all. My workaround has been using the slower 2.4ghz SSID. I also have the issue where the Play Store download sometimes waits forever to download in the queue.
What do you guys do with this issue? Flash to Android P? Something else with you router?
I really don't think it's my router because obviously all other devices in the house are working flawlessly... Appreciate ANY help... Thank you!
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Welcome to the "club"... :silly:
I've been searching for a solution to this issue since I got the PH-1 about 3 weeks ago. Here I read your post, and I just did a test to disappoint myself once again with the issue... but... it doesn't seem to be happening anymore?!??
I am running AOSiP (8.1 w/ July security patch) with the latest Neutrino Fornax kernel (important because it has the latest Android P WLAN drivers, same as the Essential P B3 066 stock release). I am going to see if I can determine what might have fixed it, but I've been running this setup for a week and it originally had the problem.
What I would suggest:
- Don't spend much time diagnosing your router, all the changes suggested in these forums didn't change anything for me at least (YMMV). As you said, all other devices in your home are working fine (same here).
- Don't install P to resolve this issue. I clean flashed the Essential P Beta Release, and the problem was still there. In fact it seems to have been worse, with PS download stopping completely with a message "Waiting for WiFi".
- Try a different kernel. Try the latest ElementalX kernel (3.0.6). I believe it has the updated WLAN drivers as well since it supports Android P. I don't believe the Neutrino kernel works on stock.
- Check your PlayStore version, I think mine was updated recently (11.0.50-all[0] [PR] 206665793)
I am going to look into this more, and if I find a definitive "this is what fixed it" I will post it here. Good luck...
This is issue is not present for me on 9.0 further the speed difference between 2.4 and 5 isn't really world eg being on 2.4 is still faster than most broadband connections. This is seems to be a google security patch issue on 8.1 and likely will be fixed in the next patch. When the latest 9.0 beta came out it seemed to go away. So it seems they know how to fix it.
I have no problem either, latest android P, rooted with rey darkroom kernel
Edit, can u guys connect to any wifi? There seems to be an issue, after flashing various ota's, stock images, or treble gsi's that disable wifi and Bluetooth and the only way i have found to fix them, isfor android P at least) to flash a july 8.1 images (flashall. Bat) then flash android P to fix wifi and Bluetooth issues.
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Welcome to the "club"... :silly:
I've been searching for a solution to this issue since I got the PH-1 about 3 weeks ago. Here I read your post, and I just did a test to disappoint myself once again with the issue... but... it doesn't seem to be happening anymore?!??
I am running AOSiP (8.1 w/ July security patch) with the latest Neutrino Fornax kernel (important because it has the latest Android P WLAN drivers, same as the Essential P B3 066 stock release). I am going to see if I can determine what might have fixed it, but I've been running this setup for a week and it originally had the problem.
What I would suggest:
- Don't spend much time diagnosing your router, all the changes suggested in these forums didn't change anything for me at least (YMMV). As you said, all other devices in your home are working fine (same here).
- Don't install P to resolve this issue. I clean flashed the Essential P Beta Release, and the problem was still there. In fact it seems to have been worse, with PS download stopping completely with a message "Waiting for WiFi".
- Try a different kernel. Try the latest ElementalX kernel (3.0.6). I believe it has the updated WLAN drivers as well since it supports Android P. I don't believe the Neutrino kernel works on stock.
- Check your PlayStore version, I think mine was updated recently (11.0.50-all[0] [PR] 206665793)
I am going to look into this more, and if I find a definitive "this is what fixed it" I will post it here. Good luck...
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Thanks for the warm welcome, my friend and even more so, thank you so much for your very detailed post and what you've done to remedy.
I assume messing with the kernel and etc will require Bootloader unlocking and rooting, right? I haven't rooted a phone since the V20, just been opting out of that life for secure payment methods, stable battery and just general ease of moving from phone to phone like I do ?.
What I did last night... Could be a fluke, could be placebo, however, changing the channels on my 5ghz network, rebooting the router, I've been connected to the 5ghz network with my Essential for about 12 hours now with no throttling. I'm not sure if it was in fact the channel change or rebooting the router that cleared things up? Albeit, the signal strength on this network on this phone is the lowest I have seen between the Note 8, HTC U12+, iPhone 7 Plus...
Please keep the research up, I will too, this problem really has no documented solution yet.
autosurgeon said:
This is issue is not present for me on 9.0 further the speed difference between 2.4 and 5 isn't really world eg being on 2.4 is still faster than most broadband connections. This is seems to be a google security patch issue on 8.1 and likely will be fixed in the next patch. When the latest 9.0 beta came out it seemed to go away. So it seems they know how to fix it.
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Thank you bud, good to hear you're not seeing the issue... But honestly, it does exist for some of us. I really hope it's the issue with the July patch, that'll make things so much easier! Although, I disagree 5ghz is much faster for me than my 2.4ghz network...
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I have no problem either, latest android P, rooted with rey darkroom kernel
Edit, can u guys connect to any wifi? There seems to be an issue, after flashing various ota's, stock images, or treble gsi's that disable wifi and Bluetooth and the only way i have found to fix them, isfor android P at least) to flash a july 8.1 images (flashall. Bat) then flash android P to fix wifi and Bluetooth issues.
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Thanks for reporting, good Sir. Yes, I can connect to any network, just low signal strength and the choking issue I had before my router change. Bluetooth seems stable with my smart watch, though the watch seems to be draining the battery faster on this phone... Who knows man ??
You might have noticed I am on the P beta. Also have you run actual wifi speed tests or are we taking seat of the pants feelings?
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You might have noticed I am on the P beta. Also have you run actual wifi speed tests or are we taking seat of the pants feelings?
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Hey bud, yes good to see promising reports from P beta... Hoping the bad WiFi is resolved for the ones who get it.
And yes, speed tested, repeatedly. Sadly, Essential's top speeds are way worse than the Note 8, HTC U12+, iPhone 7 Plus... I'm talking almost 100mbps less ?...
For whatever reason though, the choking of the bandwidth down to unusual issue has gone away. Not sure if rebooting the Router did that? WiFi signal is also the worst I have seen on this phone out of all the others mentioned...
I appreciate you sharing your experience.
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Hey bud, yes good to see promising reports from P beta... Hoping the bad WiFi is resolved for the ones who get it.
And yes, speed tested, repeatedly. Sadly, Essential's top speeds are way worse than the Note 8, HTC U12+, iPhone 7 Plus... I'm talking almost 100mbps less ...
For whatever reason though, the choking of the bandwidth down to unusual issue has gone away. Not sure if rebooting the Router did that? WiFi signal is also the worst I have seen on this phone out of all the others mentioned...
I appreciate you sharing your experience.
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So your downloads are not as fast as your other devices but you no longer see the downloads slow to a crawl (~100KB/s)? My downloads are not slowing to a crawl either any longer. Something must have been updated from a Google perspective because nothing I changed could explain the issue just going away... :fingers-crossed...
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So your downloads are not as fast as your other devices but you no longer see the downloads slow to a crawl (~100KB/s)? My downloads are not slowing to a crawl either any longer. Something must have been updated from a Google perspective because nothing I changed could explain the issue just going away... :fingers-crossed...
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Haha well my good luck didn't last too long, I fried my data, playing with Substratum, on a rooted system :'(... but here's to hoping the 5ghz good luck continues! Don't you love it when "magic" is the answer !?
All jokes aside, my WiFi signal and radio is still the weakest hardware I have EVER seen on ANY device!
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Haha well my good luck didn't last too long, I fried my data, playing with Substratum, on a rooted system :'(... but here's to hoping the 5ghz good luck continues! Don't you love it when "magic" is the answer !?
All jokes aside, my WiFi signal and radio is still the weakest hardware I have EVER seen on ANY device!
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I just had a issue with Substratum as well... what do you mean "fried my data"? I was able to recover my system using the Substratum rescue, copied to the cache/ partition and flash in TWRP. Did you already re-flash everything?
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I just had a issue with Substratum as well... what do you mean "fried my data"? I was able to recover my system using the Substratum rescue, copied to the cache/ partition and flash in TWRP. Did you already re-flash everything?
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Hey bud, yeah, I was playing with Substratum on a NON-rooted, bootloader locked device with Andromeda. So when I had the bootloop, I had no custom recovery in place to flash the rescue zip. :'(
So I "fried" my data, beyond retrievable, I mean. I was surprised that the Essential stock recovery didn't even have a way to install update.zip? That way us non-rooted folks can always save our rescue zips on our computers and see if there was a way to sideload the zip through the stock recovery... Oh well, either there is a way, or I didn't know and couldn't get enough help in time in the middle of the night. I needed my phone working in the AM...
I have had 7.01 when I got the phone yesterday. Went to 9 same day and I can't watch a video. Speed test shows 1.2 M down 2.3 up. I checked other devices and they are showing 70 down and 10 up
My Essential didn't even see my 5Ghz network on 8.1, but I just updated to 9, and now everything is good. Getting 72mbit on a 75mbit connection, too.
On 9.0 rooted with ex kernel on 5ghz ac 866mbit no issues at all... I get 40 megabytes a sec on my wifi.. I have 65 megabytes a sec with my current isp. I why straight to 9.0 phone was on 7.1.2 when I got it a few days ago.
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I just did the see 5th security patch update while already on P. My ph1 has never been able to connect to my Xfinity 5ghz channel. Actually, it will sometimes connect, but says 'connected (no internet)' then drips connection. So it's ALWys had trouble with that. My HTC 10 does not, my V30 does not, my M7 does not.
Since the 9/5 update, even my 2.4ghz channel is crazy slow. I get about 3mbps down with my case on. Took off case and get 15mbps. Verified thru multiple tests. My V30 gets 63mbps on same 2.4 channel.
Anyone have this situation? I can't seem to find any further settings in wifi settings to try to see if a setting is wrong.
Does the ph1 just have the worst wifi radio ever? Or is there somewhere in setting that I can change something that I just haven't found? Much thanks.
Stock. Not rooted, no custom kernel,etc. I've been hesitant to root this device because of the A/B slots confusing me a little and just don't have the time currently to really dig into it.
I've the same problem with 5GHz wifi... Connection is very poor. Automatically reconnect to 2,4GHz network. My iPhone 6s didn't problem with this. I don't know, how fix it.
Xfinity routers suck. That said my PH1 connects just fine to my Linksys 5ghz AC channel. Works all over my house and only switched to the 2.4 GHz when I go outside.
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Xfinity routers suck. That said my PH1 connects just fine to my Linksys 5ghz AC channel. Works all over my house and only switched to the 2.4 GHz when I go outside.
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What are you guys using to confirm throughput? I'll be testing my replacement (recording audio issue with the one I purchased) when it gets in.
I do file transfers from my PC to my phone and back again and measure the time vs size of file. Over the local network obviously.
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Xfinity routers suck. That said my PH1 connects just fine to my Linksys 5ghz AC channel. Works all over my house and only switched to the 2.4 GHz when I go outside.
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I've Tp-Link Archer C1200 with 5GHz and wifi AC. Other devices like a MacBook Air, iPhone 6s and ZTE Axon 7 works perfect with this router on 5GHz and AC speed. I think, that problem is with my Essential Phone.
Title pretty much covers it.....I have had it with the WiFi issues on the OP8 Pro and was going to go back to the OP7 Pro.
....but people are saying that they are all fixed in Android 11 beta on the OnePlus forums...is this true? And what about Dual SIM which I also need on occasion?
If I move to A11 OB2, can I root and get GPay working?
Is it stable enough to be a daily driver?
Many thanks in advance...
MW
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Title pretty much covers it.....I have had it with the WiFi issues on the OP8 Pro and was going to go back to the OP7 Pro.
....but people are saying that they are all fixed in Android 11 beta on the OnePlus forums...is this true? And what about Dual SIM which I also need on occasion?
If I move to A11 OB2, can I root and get GPay working?
Is it stable enough to be a daily driver?
Many thanks in advance...
MW
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You can root OB2 device, and the OB2 seems usable and also stable enough for daily usage.
I recently acquired a oneplus 8 pro purchased directly from oneplus.com. I have model IN2025. It is the 12gig ram 256 gig storage version. I also have a samsung active watch 2 which I again have had no problems with my oneplus 7 pro. When I initially acquired it, I tried using it with the android 10 non beta firmware. I had multitude of issues up to and including:
1. high difficulty (to not at all) connecting to either my 2.4ghz wifi network OR my 5ghz network. It would state connecting however stall at obtaining IP address. No other devices have issues connecting to either networks including my older oneplus 7 pro.
2. if it would finally connect, while it may state that the 5ghz is connected at 300mbps or the 2.4ghz connected at 144mbps, with random speed tests I would not experience anywheres near those speeds (my ISP dishes out 200mbps). at most I would get 30mbps on my downstream....again if it even worked.
3. both the 2.4ghz and 5ghz networks would often disconnect and never reconnect if and when they did successfully reconnect
I installed the open beta 1 and then did OTA to open beta 2. This has helped quite a bit HOWEVER I've experienced the following issues:
1. while I have no longer received the locking up on obtaining ip address, even if it states I'm connected to my wifi (either the 2.4 or 5ghz) the network is still extremely slow
2. sometimes the device while connected to either wifi network will appear to not send any information aka stall which potentially makes using google messages over wifi unreliable as well aka text msgs show up late etc
In both pre and after beta installation 5g has been significantly slower than 4g cellular data(though I can't say much to that as more than likely the 4g in my area has towers closer near by). Also while on 4g or 5g cellular connections I have though not as frequently experienced data stalls.
Things that have helped resolve some of my issues:
1. this I believe is the largest potential bandage: make sure use device mac address NOT RANDOM is selected. After having done that my connecting to the internet appears to be better (even if it still stalls out)
2. while I've not tried it alot as I use bluetooth alot (with the watch I have and my car and wireless headsets)I've read that turning off bluetooth can help both wifi and cellular data issues
I am currently in the process with oneplus of returning the 8 pro for a new 8 pro as I have not owned/had the phone for greater than 15 days. If that does not resolve the issue, I too may go back to a oneplus 7 pro...or perhaps the 'dark side' and go the samsung route.
Just sharing my experience so far!
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Just sharing my experience so far!
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Excessiveidling,
This is exactly the type of info I was looking for. So it sounds like it is better, but still bizzare WiFi issues that no other phone on the market has. My situation is...
I have to leave bluetooth on because of watch and hearing aids
I need to rely on WiFI calling on occasion and need it to be 100% reliable.
I need working WiFi at home because I use my phone for some applications that connect via my home network, so having WiFi work "most but not all" of the time is a deal breaker.
So at this point I think I am going to switch back.
I've been a loyal OP fan for quite a while (4 phones now), this has been really disappointing. I even bought a new router because someone said WPA3 would help...but it didn't.
MW
While I can not say anything to the validity of the following statement...I have heard in other forums that the samsung devices with the same qualcomm chipset had wifi/cellular issues (especially with 5g).....that was only ONE forum post however unlike the multitudes of forum posts I've seen regarding the oneplus.
If I were to guess, only based upon my limited modding experiences with previous android phones, an updated modem/chipset software COULD resolve these issues...further more a different/modified kernel as well. Doing that would probably void any warranty though and for spending 800+ on a phone, you shouldn't have to modify in order for it to work just as well if not better than an older phone.
I'll let ya know how the exchange goes. I'm willing to give them another shot 1. because of my excellent experience with the 7 pro and 2. because I've seen so many posts, reviews, etc stating the oneplus 8 pro is THE PHONE to have overall.
Thanks,
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I read the same thing re - chipset, and agree that is a possibility. The other is a horrible RF design for the BT / WiFi antenna because they crammed in the wireless charging.
But I don't see any of this getting fixed anytime soon. I wonder if the OP8 (non pro) has similar issues -- I didn't check.
Let me know how your new phone works out - an RF HW update or a new batch of chips could change things.