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Bootloaders About to be Unlocked - CM7 Questions

You can find the information here:
http://nenolod.net/~nenolod/sholes-keyleak-explained.html
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/2...t-to-be-unlocked-keys-for-sbf-files-released/
I hear all the talk about unlocked bootloaders which would allow us to install CM7 on our DX's. What exactly makes CM7 the clear and cut best ROM out for unlocked phones? Features? Speed? Battery Life?
I'm just curious, and I'm extremely excited.

VICTORY IS OURS!! haha im excited too

PERFECT ************* TIMING FOR ME! Just ordered a replacement Droid X, coming in tomorrow.
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Avelnan said:
PERFECT ************* TIMING FOR ME! Just ordered a replacement Droid X, coming in tomorrow.
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LOL I just ordered a replacement Droid X as well, mine has a screen defect. I don't think you'll get yours until Tuesday though, they don't send out overnight stuff on Sundays.

chucklesjh said:
LOL I just ordered a replacement Droid X as well, mine has a screen defect. I don't think you'll get yours until Tuesday though, they don't send out overnight stuff on Sundays.
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Actually ordered it on Friday, they did say it would arrive on Tuesday, but as I was tracking my shipping on FedEx, it said estimated to arrive on Monday.
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wad3g said:
What exactly makes CM7 the clear and cut best ROM out for unlocked phones? Features? Speed? Battery Life?
I'm just curious, and I'm extremely excited.
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All of the above.
I may be wrong, but I believe CM7 is a Gingerbread rom.
I'm still excited as ****.
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Me too! Wow!
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This is awesome news. When I had my droid I used to run sapphire and CM. I haven't really gotten into the ROM scene with my X but I am excited to see what comes out of this leak.

So how long is going to take before we see some custom kernels/cm7??

ram130 said:
So how long is going to take before we see some custom kernels/cm7??
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Likely 6-10 days before we start seeing usable builds, 0.1 builds, etc

kailynleto said:
Likely 6-10 days before we start seeing usable builds, 0.1 builds, etc
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Thanks,....the wait is on!

kailynleto said:
Likely 6-10 days before we start seeing usable builds, 0.1 builds, etc
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Wow, that is awesome. I don't even really know what to expect out of this, but a DX with a unlocked bootloader has to be one of the best phones on the market right now, correct?
TBolt isn't worth upgrading to IMO. I'm waiting until August-December, and a unlocked DX makes the wait that much easier.

wad3g said:
Wow, that is awesome. I don't even really know what to expect out of this, but a DX with a unlocked bootloader has to be one of the best phones on the market right now, correct?
TBolt isn't worth upgrading to IMO. I'm waiting until August-December, and a unlocked DX makes the wait that much easier.
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Yeah it will be a beast. I am already getting Quadrant scores ~2200 on a regular basis with Liberty 1.5/Stagefright, and I am willing to bet that, with custom kernels in the game now, we can get over 3000, as everything can be streamlined

omg i wish i could freeze myself and wake up in 10 days!!!

ram130 said:
Thanks,....the wait is on!
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"@nenolod: for only the gazillionth time now, the @freemymoto people are doing the work now. bug them instead..."
That attitude leads me to believe he just wanted to get something started. Guess nobody will know for sure until thoroughly tested, but my hopes aren't too high. People claim that Moto sending a C&D order proves, to an extent, the legitimacy of this key... however, like with the key, all we have is his word. Where's the Moto letter? It's all based purely on the assumption that he's not a total jackass. I do hope it's real, though.. will refrain from holding my breath for now.
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ram130 said:
So how long is going to take before we see some custom kernels/cm7??
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It may be a week or so minimum. Follow @freemymoto on twitter for updates. They will be working on this project, but give them time; these things need to be thoroughly tested by the devs before it is released to the public.

raziel36 said:
"@nenolod: for only the gazillionth time now, the @freemymoto people are doing the work now. bug them instead..."
That attitude leads me to believe he just wanted to get something started. Guess nobody will know for sure until thoroughly tested, but my hopes aren't too high. People claim that Moto sending a C&D order proves, to an extent, the legitimacy of this key... however, like with the key, all we have is his word. Where's the Moto letter? It's all based purely on the assumption that he's not a total jackass. I do hope it's real, though.. will refrain from holding my breath for now.
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It may be a week or so minimum. Follow @freemymoto on twitter for updates. They will be working on this project, but give them time; these things need to be thoroughly tested by the devs before it is released to the public.
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Thanks for the insight. I will try not to.. i really hope he doesn't. I can only hope for the best right now.

Great news! I can't wait to see this beast that is the DX unlocked.
I really hope developers take their time and release a solid ROM instead of rushing to it just for the sake of releasing the " first " unlocked ROM for bragging rights.
I hope there is nothing sacrificed as well. My biggest gripe is that of missing features for speed. I am willing to wait it out

My only question (and don't get me wrong, I'm excited our phones will be getting unlocked) is about re-locking our phones. If we have to return them for any kind of repair/replacement issue, and VZ sees the bootloader was unlocked, I have a feeling they would say we voided our warranties. Right now with the locked bootloader all we have to worry about is sbf'ing/madderstcok'ing our phones back to stock. Does anyone know if the unlocking process is going to have a re-locking process?

sfreemanoh said:
My only question (and don't get me wrong, I'm excited our phones will be getting unlocked) is about re-locking our phones. If we have to return them for any kind of repair/replacement issue, and VZ sees the bootloader was unlocked, I have a feeling they would say we voided our warranties. Right now with the locked bootloader all we have to worry about is sbf'ing/madderstcok'ing our phones back to stock. Does anyone know if the unlocking process is going to have a re-locking process?
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This process won't involve unlocking the bootloader, it'll consist of flashing an .sbf file using the current security keys which replaces stock recovery with clockworkmod and replaces the stock keys with our own keys. Then, we can create new kernels and roms that use our own keys. Thus, the security stays intact and we can still do whatever we want. Flashing back to stock will simply require flashing one of the leaked .sbf files (.340 for instance) that has been altered to include the new keys.
In short, we don't break down the door, we just change the lock so we can have access whenever we want.

Gingerbread for the Atrix(not trolling)

So i just called in to att trying to get a credit for my gimped phone, i didn't get a credit sadly but i did get some interesting info.
First and probably the coolest, the guy told me that att does plan on releasing gingerbread for the atrix before the end of Q3 as well as the boot loader unlock. The second thing he told me is that att doesn't plan on allowing side-loading and he said its not looking like the amazon app store, however they aren't holding it against people that are figuring out a way to side load.
Anyways it is what it is but its some info, he also seemed rather shocked that the boot loader wasn't cracked yet, dunno why though when i pressed him he shut up about it.

Q3?! Wow, that is still some time away :/
By that time, most likely Ice Cream will be out already...
interesting info about the bootloader as well... so it should not be that difficult? Hmm...

Interesting no doubt... I think they will have a way to unlock at the sacrifice of your warranty.
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Yeah, end of Q3 for AT&T is September, I just checked (they run a Jan - Dec fiscal year). That's a super long time away for something that's already been in work since before the phone was released (based on the engineering build in the Android development forum).

What is trolling?
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frankiedizzle87 said:
What is trolling?
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it is a art

2.4 will more than likely not be called ice cream it'll still be call gingerbread. And what the guy said goes along with what the australian guy posted in his thread about motorola giving a bootloader solution similar to what the xoom has but it would be up to the discretion of the carrier if they'd allow it or not and that it would all happen in the ladder part of 2011. But to hear it from att rep is interesting but I don't hold my breathe
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/motorola-promises-android-bootloader-unlock-in-late-2011 maybe the rep just read this and said att was gonna do it... you know how this reps are
thats just my 2 cents
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frankiedizzle87 said:
What is trolling?
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Now that is what true trolling is. If you frequent 4chan enough, you'll be able to tell quite quickly who's trolling and who's srs.

I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.

Made2Last said:
I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.
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LOL
And what is cool about having gingerbread in october? 5 months from now and 10 months after the realease of GB?

Made2Last said:
I'm sure that someone from at&t told you they were unlocking the bootloader for real. I mean, they won't let us sideload apps but they will unlock that bootloader for us no problem. Makes total sense.
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There may be some contractual issue with a 3rd party that is preventing AT&T from "giving" us sideloading, such as a conflict with an AT&T partner and Amazon for example, so it may make sense to not allow it, although they know fully it's going to happen in any event. I think unlocking the bootloader is what's important. The community has enabled pretty much everything else, including sideloading. I do agree though, it's kind of a contradiction.

bl0wf1sh said:
interesting info about the bootloader as well... so it should not be that difficult? Hmm...
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based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.

cegna09 said:
based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.
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Last time I checked, AT&T did have a couple of Motorola android devices...
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cegna09 said:
based on how much these service people actually know, i'm betting they are talking out of their ass. I'm sure he is basing it off of the HTC devices they sell, which are rather easy to meddle with. Since AT&T has never sold a motorola android device before, if they didn't research before speaking, they would have no idea. I'm 100% sure motorola has not told the AT&T service reps how the bootloader works and how to break it.
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Flipside and backflip. I think theres one our two more.
Flipside is a piece of junk with absolutely no developers
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Is he the same AT&T rep who told us the Atrix has LTE capabilities?

Q3 is too far away. If that's the case, I'll give the Galaxy S II a hard look when released...

Techcruncher said:
Is he the same AT&T rep who told us the Atrix has LTE capabilities?
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I had an AT&T rep tell me that also.

Q3 or september 11 is 5 months away. In this case, I will rather start looking for other options, such as HTC Sensation, or GSII.
I wish Gingerbread comes to Atrix Soon as well, as 2.2.1 is a real pain. Also once you get spoiled by the newest and greatest android version available, its real dumb and hard to get back to older one... :-(

PixoNova said:
Flipside and backflip. I think theres one our two more.
Flipside is a piece of junk with absolutely no developers
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AT&T has had:
Backflip
Flipside
Flipout
Bravo
Of those four prior to the Atrix, only the Bravo is worth anything. And it got upgraded to 2.2 recently.

Once the bootloader gets unlocked I'm sure we will have a gingerbread port a lot sooner than October. I'm really hoping for a CM7 port!

HTc Sensation appears to have a locked bootloader...what about the Evo 3D?

I was thinking about getting the EVO 3D but I think I'm gonna wait..especially after reading this:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/13/htc-sensation-looks-to-have-signed-bootloader-custom-roms-look/
If the HTC Sensation appears to have a locked bootloader, I'm sure the EVO 3D will as well. But hopefully the Devs can unlock it if it is locked down. I bought the Atrix and it's still locked down. That's why I sold it....
here's a better link: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-bootloader-custom-rom-support-is-in-danger/
The engadget article is kinda vague.

I think it most likely will have a locked bootloader. It can be unlocked, but going to take a lot more time.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077184

Isn't it true that only phones that are encrypted so far are Verizon's phones? When a sprint one comes out encrypted then we should be scared.
Right now chalk it up to big red demanding it be done...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the evo have some type of bootloader and troops some time to unlock it
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cesarcerros31 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the evo have some type of bootloader and troops some time to unlock it
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I don't know...
But I'm hoping this thing isn't locked down like the Atrix. I think it'll be unlocked over time...

craigbailey1986 said:
Isn't it true that only phones that are encrypted so far are Verizon's phones? When a sprint one comes out encrypted then we should be scared.
Right now chalk it up to big red demanding it be done...
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Don't be so logical, it breaks forum rules.
But, the Sensation is on T-Mobile. [They've gone to the dark side lately anyway]

cesarcerros31 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the evo have some type of bootloader and troops some time to unlock it
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Yes, thats exactly how mostly all phones come, except google phones. THEY ALL ARE LOCKED, and most of the time root is achieved before the phone is released.

swaze said:
Yes, thats exactly how mostly all phones come, except google phones. THEY ALL ARE LOCKED, and most of the time root is achieved before the phone is released.
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Well yeah but we have a word usage issue here.
When people are saying "locked" they are meaning "signed."
Such as the Droids.

cesarcerros31 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the evo have some type of bootloader and troops some time to unlock it
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it was locked but it was rooted before it even came to market...a few of the awesome dev's around here got it from the google conference and had it rooted within a couple days well before sprint stores etc got them.

adeyo said:
it was locked but it was rooted before it even came to market...a few of the awesome dev's around here got it from the google conference and had it rooted within a couple days well before sprint stores etc got them.
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But full NAND unlock didn't come until the ENG bootloader surfaced right? or were their phones given at the conf. already with the ENG bootloader?

EVO 3D confirmed to be locked down

This was posted in the EVO 3D section...
http://dev.androidpolice.com/2011/05...l-locked-down/
Definitely a no-go for me.

Yea I just saw that. I was already leaning towards the SGS2 but now my mind is pretty much made up.

spencer88 said:
This was posted in the EVO 3D section...
http://dev.androidpolice.com/2011/05...l-locked-down/
Definitely a no-go for me.
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Why didn't you leave it there. It was posted there for a reason.

swaze said:
Why didn't you leave it there. It was posted there for a reason.
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Maybe in case people don't read the EVO 3D section?
Please refrain from making stupid comments like that in the future.

The bootloaders are always locked, it's the fact that the 3d's is encrypted.

spencer88 said:
Maybe in case people don't read the EVO 3D section?
Please refrain from making stupid comments like that in the future.
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It was moved from here to start with genius
from my phone duh

Petition HTC to stop locking down their phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/

spencer88 said:
This was posted in the EVO 3D section...
http://dev.androidpolice.com/2011/05...l-locked-down/
Definitely a no-go for me.
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Just another sign of where HTC is going. I still like my EVO so ill stick with what I know.

CheesyNutz said:
It was moved from here to start with genius
from my phone duh
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Lol.................
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Yea lol. That thread was here originally and was moved. The 3D is now lame tho...no way am I getting it.
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Well im keeping my nexus s and going to wait for the gs2 to come. I feel bad for the people who preordered this. No evo3d for me. The nexus may have radio issues but at least it will be fixed soon. I dont like the route htc is going.

not htcs fault. Its not a buffet, but a made to order device specifically for sprint. sprint cooked up the ingredients list including cyphering the bootloader.

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Well im keeping my nexus s and going to wait for the gs2 to come. I feel bad for the people who preordered this. No evo3d for me. The nexus may have radio issues but at least it will be fixed soon. I dont like the route htc is going.
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How bad is the radio issues
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from my phone duh

Our Evo's are still beasts!! I'll wait for the rumored Nexus3!!
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Non-Issue
you guys do realize that even the Evo 4G had a locked boot loader right?
It being locked doesn't make it unlockable, the issue would be if it was encrypted, which it is not. Thunderbolt was locked too and now it is unlockable... just give the xda-devs some time and they will unlock it for us.
This is a BIG misconception and something that keeps getting reported as a big issue when in reality is not as big a deal as it is being made to be.

CheesyNutz said:
How bad is the radio issues
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from my phone duh
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FWIW, I haven't noticed anything. I get the usual crappy 200-500 kbps on 3G and up to 8 on 4G.
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Why is everyone saying they are going to the GSII. What if that is locked. Sprint is the one requesting this not HTC. Notice verizon was the first to do it and now sprint followed. This is the direction the market is going in general. I know this is not fact because I don't personally know but this is a sign that this is where things are going. Tmobile is also getting a locked phone.

m3Jorge said:
you guys do realize that even the Evo 4G had a locked boot loader right?
It being locked doesn't make it unlockable, the issue would be if it was encrypted, which it is not. Thunderbolt was locked too and now it is unlockable... just give the xda-devs some time and they will unlock it for us.
This is a BIG misconception and something that keeps getting reported as a big issue when in reality is not as big a deal as it is being made to be.
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Thunderbolt people got luck period. Droidx is still locked.
from my phone duh

Jjday7 said:
Why is everyone saying they are going to the GSII. What if that is locked. Sprint is the one requesting this not HTC. Notice verizon was the first to do it and now sprint followed. This is the direction the market is going in general. I know this is not fact because I don't personally know but this is a sign that this is where things are going. Tmobile is also getting a locked phone.
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Probably because its already been confirmed that the SGSII isnt locked.

brownhornet said:
Probably because its already been confirmed that the SGSII isnt locked.
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The international version is unlocked... We have no idea if the U.S. carriers will want it locked. I doubt it, but it is possible.
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Motorola droix x receive gingerbread today

Thats fustrating

first, not the right forum.
second, the droid X has been out longer, and frankly is easier to update since it doesn't have the whole webtop environment that needs to be baked into the build.
it's coming for the atrix, relax and learn patience.

Gotta admit it, it's frustrating.
Don't know about the dev part, but Moto could improve some programming in those phones that are more difficult to do stuff. And launch upgrades to all phones within a short time diference.
Would be like heaven XD

moto wants todo this with atrix, the problem are the carriers

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moto wants todo this with atrix, the problem are the carriers
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Compro o teu direto da Claro? No meu veio um adesivo dizendo 'desbloqueado' ou algo assim...
You've bought straight from Claro? Mine came with a sticker saying 'non-bloqued' or something...

what's with the sadism?
you don't possibly expect moto to alter their upgrade plans they have made in past just because you purchased a different model which launched much later do you?

Op I thought you got rid of your atrix. Secondly, we just seen the Gingerbread beta release in ken's thread. Calm down.
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anybody think that maybe getting root on the droid would help us get root on the atrix?...

Didn't you sell your Atrix eclipse? Why do you care so much?

yeah...and bought another one.....I'm a seller =), see my assignature?

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anybody think that maybe getting root on the droid would help us get root on the atrix?...
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Uhhh...lol we already have root on the atrix. LOLOLOLOL.

Not after the update apparently from published articles on the beta.

My phone says your articles are wrong.

UnCommonGrafx said:
My phone says your articles are wrong.
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Are you talking about the same thing? The beta = Gingerbread, I was assuming.

dharmabum said:
Not after the update apparently from published articles on the beta.
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According to ken, ginger break is not running on the 'leaked beta'.
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kshiuan said:
Uhhh...lol we already have root on the atrix. LOLOLOLOL.
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you need to read more...lol lol ect.

Chaos.. We have root on atrix, idiot. What we don't have is an unlocked boot loader or custom kernels.
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jbrussee said:
Chaos.. We have root on atrix, idiot. What we don't have is an unlocked boot loader or custom kernels.
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Watch your language and read the OP again. It's GB.
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1. What language? 2. I was replying to chaos's post.
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EclipseX said:
Thats fustrating
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Alright first and foremost you gotta understand that Motorola is Verizon's bread and butter. They relied on Motorola to pay their bills while waiting for Apple.
So of course they are going to have updates fast. They usually get updates "Nexus Fast" because they rely on Motorola so much.
With that said, it's not the end of the world. We'll have a more established version of Gingerbread.
Just like my original Motorola Milestone, it got Froyo later than anybody else, but its version of Froyo is the best that I've ever seen. (Heck the Milestone's version of Froyo is even better than the Atrix)
The only people that should be upset, are "Bell users" since we still have not seen a single update yet. We still have crippled upload speeds, and it's not fair to ask a Bell user to flash a French SBF when their isn't an official stock version available to fall back on.
* BTW Bell users, please click on the link in my sig and "post" that you "want a Bell Atrix Section".
Mr. Clown OK'd the idea, if we get enough supporting it...