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Is x10 is supporting multi-touch

I was wondering if SE will release multitouch support with the new planned upgrade 2.1 ?
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no one knows for certain ,we couldnot find the model of the degitizer

1000 times again:
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/03/28/xperia-x10-does-not-support-hardware-multitouch/

StripLV said:
1000 times again:
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/03/28/xperia-x10-does-not-support-hardware-multitouch/
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the x10 mini digitizer supports multitouch but they said that it doesnot , the mini has clearpad 2000

there will be no multitouche on the x10 but there is a chance for dual touche for zoming ands so. you realy dont use more then 2 fingers. i NEVER has seeing once annybody using 3 fingers on a multitouch phone or more ;-)
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noblackthunder said:
there will be no multitouche on the x10 but there is a chance for dual touche for zoming ands so. you realy dont use more then 2 fingers. i NEVER has seeing once annybody using 3 fingers on a multitouch phone or more ;-)
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wher you heard this from i never heard this before?

in the link over my first post. it says clearly the will be no multitouche. but they work on dualtouch.
there will be no multitouche on the x10 but there is a chance for dual touche for zoming ands so. you realy dont use more then 2 fingers. i NEVER has
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wher you heard this from i never heard this before?
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noblackthunder said:
in the link over my first post. it says clearly the will be no multitouche. but they work on dualtouch.
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Theres no link in your 1st post...?

this link ?
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/03/28/xperia-x10-does-not-support-hardware-multitouch/
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noblackthunder said:
this link ?
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/03/28/xperia-x10-does-not-support-hardware-multitouch/
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It doesnt state in that blog that it will support dual touch or have i misread it?

nope... but there is hope. they clearly say no multitouch but they sound unclear about dual touch. but im afraid that the hole thing is a patent problem. and thy dont will do anny hing with that. remember appel has patentet dual/multitouch idea. and they say how can use it for the right amount of mony
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noblackthunder said:
nope... but there is hope. they clearly say no multitouch but they sound unclear about dual touch. but im afraid that the hole thing is a patent problem. and thy dont will do anny hing with that. remember appel has patentet dual/multitouch idea. and they say how can use it for the right amount of mony
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My understanding is the patent is on MultiTouch not DualTouch.
The HTC Desire has DualTouch and NOT MultiTouch for this exact reason, nowhere have HTC stated that their handset has multitouch, they ONLY and explicitly said "Pinch to Zoom" and automatically everyone assumed multitouch!
This is the same reason why SE have not included MultiTouch (Apple will even sue their pet GOLDFISH too!!), instead of paying to use multitouch they opted to save the money and leave the feature out.
However, im going on a limb here and going to be optimistic on this situation and "hope" they have at the very least included a Dual Touch display!

i remember that i readed a post here in xda before mentioned that multitouch for x10 is possible to be achive by kernel code or something.
anyway i dont think se will keep their mouth shut about ther will give x10 dualtouch if they really working on this. this is hurting they sales.

i think the x10 has at least a dual touch screen. they said that they maybe give a sw update to fix this and long after this phone h s been on the m rket they say there is hw problem. cant belive they found out after the phone was in masse produktion that they notice it dosen... no way! i think its to expensive for the license. but maybe we find out about tyat if the root will be archived ;-)
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x10 screen senstivity is allot better than desire and nexusone ,this means it uses a more advanced digitizer ,i think low end digitizers that supports single touc doesnot give this quality ,may be afterall it is patent issues ,remember even nexus one after getting the pinch to zoom update ,apple sued them ,may be sony don't want to get troubles as x10 is also sold in usa

i have no idea how you guys define good sensitive but for me i always misclick something when i m scrolling and i assume this is bad sensitive

hoss_n2 said:
x10 screen senstivity is allot better than desire and nexusone ,this means it uses a more advanced digitizer ,i think low end digitizers that supports single touc doesnot give this quality ,may be afterall it is patent issues ,remember even nexus one after getting the pinch to zoom update ,apple sued them ,may be sony don't want to get troubles as x10 is also sold in usa
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yep thats what i mean :S this is also why they dont say witch touchscreen model the x10 has ... just think about that ...

Xperia X10 HD

http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/10/14/‘xperia-x10-hd’-to-land-in-a-matter-of-weeks-same-hardware/

This cannot be true. Just an upgrade mof X10 to android 2.1.
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It's a simple "re-brand" so they can market the phone again, but this time with a newer OS. Read the article, guys.

iead1 said:
It's a simple "re-brand" so they can market the phone again, but this time with a newer OS. Read the article, guys.
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Gee, where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, that is what I told you would happen back in April!

fm1776 said:
Gee, where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, that is what I told you would happen back in April!
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...? You said that SE would rebrand the phone in certain markets to refresh the marketability of the phone?

iead1 said:
...? You said that SE would rebrand the phone in certain markets to refresh the marketability of the phone?
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Exactly! The same thing they did on the P900 to the P910. And, than there was the X1 to the X2.
I told you in April, May, June, and July. I have owned four SE flag ship devices and this is exactly what SE do. What's their motto again? Oh yeah, Make Believe!
SE make you believe that you are getting the latest device and it turns out to be miles behind the devices that come out one week later!

fm1776 said:
Exactly! The same thing they did on the P900 to the P910. And, than there was the X1 to the X2.
I told you in April, May, June, and July. I have owned four SE flag ship devices and this is exactly what SE do. What's their motto again? Oh yeah, Make Believe!
SE make you believe that you are getting the latest device and it turns out to be miles behind the devices that come out one week later!
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Whoa, boy,
Whatever happened to "I'm running away in shame and hopeyou guys forgive my childish antics"?
Hmm... You really are a liar, through and through... Mommy's sooooo proud of you =D

As far as I can tell from the pic is that the HD is about video. Hence the "HD capture 720p". Read the small letters below the HD. They are just promoting the capability to capture HD videos in 720p.
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And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
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pshdo said:
And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
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That'd be the only positive thing I could see coming from this. Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope after all!
I won't hold my breath though. After I get some money I'm investing in an HTC or Motorola Android device.

Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France

JokerWrath said:
Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France
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Wow, something different in Singapore. We still have only X10 here so the marketing strategy will be different in different countries.
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Looking at the ad and translating it to English and then reading it in context it's obvious it is a marketing scheme. I don't understand why people are getting mad that a company wants to trick another group of people in to buying their product.
Edit: people getting mad would be fm1776 but I guess he/she was mad at SE before the telephone was invented
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pshdo said:
And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
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Well its obvious id say this is the reason for the delay in the first place. Why would you wait on this coming out if u could get an old x10 last month cheaper with sane hardwate and hd video so they would have waited
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bongd said:
That'd be the only positive thing I could see coming from this. Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope after all!
I won't hold my breath though. After I get some money I'm investing in an HTC or Motorola Android device.
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I wish they would make a Xperia x10 12 mgp phone...
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 12 mgp

zm4 said:
I wish they would make a Xperia x10 12 mgp phone...
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 12 mgp
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I don't. I have already a 12mp DSLR which isn't compromised by the lack of flash, camera software and OEM support. I wouldn't put my trust in SE with anything now that I know how awful the company is. SE is horrible.

JokerWrath said:
Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France
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Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?

qwer23 said:
Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?
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Nope. It looks just like the old Xperia.

qwer23 said:
Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?
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It's the proximity sensor ;-)
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X10 mini pro gets an unofficial dt.

As u know x10 mini pro gets this driver and as I understood it works even better than our dt (it's real dt/MT) the question is is there any chance to have it on our x10?
Did u ever played a gameloft game which needs dt?in this case u will feel the lack of real dt.
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If mini gets real mt we will get it also at least i hope so.
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I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.

Mister J said:
I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.
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Well only SE knows the truth about that.
And until they stop hiding the all the info from us.
We may never know.

shahkam said:
If mini gets real mt we will get it also at least i hope so.
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Why would that matter the hardware is completely different..

Mister J said:
I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.
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They originally said dt was not possible either so...
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AyDee said:
They originally said dt was not possible either so...
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Yes and managed to give us buggy dual touch. If it is a huge conspiracy then why did they even give us the buggy dual touch? Why not just maintain that anything other than single touch was impossible?

Erm, did I say one word about conspiracy? Simply stating a fact relative to the topic.
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fiscidtox said:
Yes and managed to give us buggy dual touch. If it is a huge conspiracy then why did they even give us the buggy dual touch? Why not just maintain that anything other than single touch was impossible?
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That my friend is simple.
There was a huge out cry for MT.
But if they gave us proper MT then buying a arc, play or neo.
Would seem less viable.

OmegaRED^ said:
That my friend is simple.
There was a huge out cry for MT.
But if they gave us proper MT then buying a arc, play or neo.
Would seem less viable.
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There was no huge outcry....
People thought that it wasn't possible, they were upset but there was no huge outcry at all
Why would there be an outcry for something you didn't think was possible?
If anything se willingly came our about the dual touch upgrade possibility without any pressure.

fiscidtox said:
There was no huge outcry....
People thought that it wasn't possible, they were upset but there was no huge outcry at all
Why would there be an outcry for something you didn't think was possible?
If anything se willingly came our about the dual touch upgrade possibility without any pressure.
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Did you read any of the blog comments?
Even the one's SE deleted?
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What seems like an eternity ago, the X10 was announced with a capacitive screen but no support for multitouch and was met with incessant rants from users all demanding the same thing in rather an “Attack Of The Clones”. Sony Ericsson suffered greatly with negative reviews flowing in, not helped by the outdated OS, and it seemed the “Revenge Of The SE-haters” was stronger than ever. However, keen fans were offered “A New Hope” when Sony Ericsson suggested via their blog that the feature would be added in future updates:
“Xperia X10 has a capacitive screen. It does not support multi-touch functionality at launch, but is considered for the future.”
Sumit Malhotra
That hope was soon dashed though as the “Empire Struck Back” when SE stated that the X10 would not be receiving multitouch and lacked support for the feature through both software and hardware limitations:
“I don’t have any technical details around the screen to share, sorry! – However I have now gotten confirmation on the question of multi touch. As said earlier there’s no multitouch in X10 – and I also can confirm that it’s not only related to SW but also to HW.”
Rikard Skogberg
It appeared all hope was lost as without hardware support there was surely no way back but on a remote moon some determined hackers were not about to give up and managed to make rudimentary multitouch gestures work on the X10. SE apparently noticed this and decided, not to be shown up by the community, that they should get in on the act themselves which brings us officially to the “Return Of The Multitouch”!
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like I said though people were definitely upset but I hardly saw a huge outcry, not like the one there was for support past 2.1 anyhow.
Regardless, if we could even improve this dual touch I would be happy, playing games us brutal when one of the controls either sticks or doesn't respond..

Thanx all 4 the infos.
So as I understood the x10 hardware doesnt support it but isn't it strange that x10 mini pro have it and our x10 with same genre doesn't??
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mohsentz said:
Thanx all 4 the infos.
So as I understood the x10 hardware doesnt support it but isn't it strange that x10 mini pro have it and our x10 with same genre doesn't??
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You would think they put better hardware in the x10. Being more expensive
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rtblittlebrown said:
You would think they put better hardware in the x10. Being more expensive
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Didn't they just get better dual touch, with some effort we could probably get the same..
Unfortunately I don't know much programing

Even if it's just 2 touches without the jittery jumpy crap.
I will be completely happy with my x10.
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I just find it odd that the x10 being way more expensive and the x10 mini being cheaper.
Well you get the point.. why would it be weaker?

OmegaRED^ said:
Even if it's just 2 touches without the jittery jumpy crap.
I will be completely happy with my x10.
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I just find it odd that the x10 being way more expensive and the x10 mini being cheaper.
Well you get the point.. why would it be weaker?
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I agree completely two touches with no bugs and I would be fully satisfied..
The new better dt wasn't directly from se though was it? Maybe ask the programmers what they did to fix it

Here's the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064558

Vote:what do you want in Next SE flagship?

what you like to see in next SonyEricsson flagship?
multiple choices enabled.

i just selected everything... theres no point in this thread.... whatever they create someone will be one step ahead of them...

iam doing a little survey kinda job for SE American department.so every opinion is respected and appericated
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Xenon flash!
Why is it missing?

admad said:
Xenon flash!
Why is it missing?
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X2
why no Xenon flash in the vote?

Oops.sorry.it slipped my mind.
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for anyone interested in new Whitemagic screens check this out:
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201108/11-086E/

Just make the god damn Xperia DUO a reality already.

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Just make the god damn Xperia DUO a reality already.
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DUO specs are nice.but it looks ugly and fake.(just my opinion)

Xenon flash would be great, hopefully se's 3rd generation android will have it
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ToonXW said:
Just make the god damn Xperia DUO a reality already.
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SE just revealed Xperia arc with 1.4 CPU.check this out man
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/08/3...4ghz-processor-announced-coming-october-2011/

josephnero said:
DUO specs are nice.but it looks ugly and fake.(just my opinion)
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I don't think that's the real design shown on the net. SE's phones are always revolutionary in design and I certainly do not want an "Arc-head-Neo-butt" phone. But the specs are not just nice, it's incredible. But there's no official announcement so.. :\
Yes I've read the new Arc S but I doubt it's going to be much of an attention anyway. They could have at least increased the RAM or just a little modification but nothing. Anyone could've flashed a custom kernel and get it up to 1.8Ghz on 8255 chips.

those who wanted 1.4 just got an option

For synaptics dualtouch !!

Sorry for my bad english (translate via google_translate)
I propose to collect fund for the enthusiast! Who was the first full working create plugin multitouch \ dualtouch for synaptics, and he will receive the prize.
I think no one would spare $ 1-2 for it.

it was me!!!
but i didn't share it

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it was me!!!
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I think what he meant was to collect some money encouraging a developer to make real dual touch for synaptics, the money being the prize.
Anyway, as of now it's impossible..
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Good idea
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Nikkopt said:
Anyway, as of now it's impossible..
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When the motivation miracles happen

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When the motivation miracles happen
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There is no motivation in the world that can make an impossible thing possible.. You have to flash a chip with modified firmware.
First of no one has the firmware, second, we'll probably never know how to flash it without desoldering the chip and have a dedicated programmer.
Lets forget it.. It's easier to get a cypress panel.
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