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Xperia x10 Multi-touch and updates after 2.1

Hey guys,
I guess I'd share this with you.
I sent a mail to SE asking them about a more specific explanation regarding the multi-touch function. I also asked them about if they plan to keep updating the Xperia after 2.1.
What they said in reply to the multi touch part is that the X10 handset does not support the MT feature.
"This requires two layers of the capacity screen for this feature to be added succesfully which the handset does not have. The handset only has one layer of capacitive touch screen."
I don't know about the technical stuff, so maybe somebody over here can confirm this.
Their reply to the update part was that they haven't got any further information regarding any other updates until after the release of the Android 2.1 update. So it is still a guess.
What they did say is that 2.1 will be released in the UK before the end of September. So it is indeed several weeks away, if they are telling the truth.

These subjects are getting annoying now i understand that MT is a feature that lots of people want but my question to these people is why didnt u buy a phone with MT in the first place now for the 2.1 update we know its coming very soon so just be patient its not that big a deal i love my x10 and if it wasnt getting 2.1 id still love it also as for updates after 2.1 y dnt u just wait and see we aint got 2.1 yet and ur already thinking about whats gonna happen after that anyway thats just my thoughts
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how about dual touch? does it require 2 layers of the capacity screen as well?

maybe we will get the missing layer by mail.
then we will have multitouch.

toonarmy85 said:
These subjects are getting annoying now i understand that MT is a feature that lots of people want but my question to these people is why didnt u buy a phone with MT in the first place now for the 2.1 update we know its coming very soon so just be patient its not that big a deal i love my x10 and if it wasnt getting 2.1 id still love it also as for updates after 2.1 y dnt u just wait and see we aint got 2.1 yet and ur already thinking about whats gonna happen after that anyway thats just my thoughts
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I believe a lot of people thought the lack of MT was probably due to 1.6 rather then SE deciding not to put in the hardware to support it. Who could blame them when devices from other companies had hardware support for MT well before the X10 came out. I bet a lot of people who bought the X10 were told that MT would be available with a software upgrade, hell even SE's US web site says the X10 has multi-touch.
I would love to know what the reasoning was behind not adding MT support. Was it SE saying we can get these hi res non MT screens for cheap, that no one wants & put them in our flagship Android device? If that is the case it makes me wonder if SE isn't on life support & desperate to cut corners anywhere they can to save money.

OMG, yet another MT topic, mods shuld really ban you guys, I would for sure, you are making this forum a junk forum, worst than spam topics !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758930&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756737&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=721323&highlight=multitouch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731521&highlight=multitouch
I really hope and hold my fingers crossed that we NEVER get MT on this X10 and that SE sends each of you whiners a private letter telling you that there wont be MT for X10...like it isnt bad that we wait 6 months for 2.1 like mentaly retarded fools are working for SE...

phoneguy 4567 said:
I believe a lot of people thought the lack of MT was probably due to 1.6 rather then SE deciding not to put in the hardware to support it. Who could blame them when devices from other companies had hardware support for MT well before the X10 came out. I bet a lot of people who bought the X10 were told that MT would be available with a software upgrade, hell even SE's US web site says the X10 has multi-touch.
I would love to know what the reasoning was behind not adding MT support. Was it SE saying we can get these hi res non MT screens for cheap, that no one wants & put them in our flagship Android device? If that is the case it makes me wonder if SE isn't on life support & desperate to cut corners anywhere they can to save money.
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Ur probably right m8 but people should also look at specs and reviews before they rush out and spend tho i belive MT wasnt implemented because of apple and the recent law case against htc i think SE didnt want all the hassle but i could be wrong
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X10
I really dont care about 2.1 but it will be nice when it arrives and i absolutley love my X10 as it is so anything is a bonus ....... Toon toon black and white army !!!!! )

Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
Please, save the kittens!!

toonarmy85 said:
Ur probably right m8 but people should also look at specs and reviews before they rush out and spend tho i belive MT wasnt implemented because of apple and the recent law case against htc i think SE didnt want all the hassle but i could be wrong
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The lawsuit stuff may be a reason not to include MT but that could be accomplished through software. If I was working at SE I would have included the hardware support & at least left the door open to turning on the support later. Doing it this way just makes SE look cheap IMO.
I don't find MT a very useful feature but one that doesn't get in my way when doing other things, so I'm indifferent to it.
I agree with others there is no need to have all these different threads all talking about MT.

phoneguy 4567 said:
The lawsuit stuff may be a reason not to include MT but that could be accomplished through software. If I was working at SE I would have included the hardware support & at least left the door open to turning on the support later. Doing it this way just makes SE look cheap IMO.
I don't find MT a very useful feature but one that doesn't get in my way when doing other things, so I'm indifferent to it.
I agree with others there is no need to have all these different threads all talking about MT.
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I couldnt agree more SE obviously took the cheaper way out which was also easier for them but instead of this turning into a debatable thread i agree that there is no need for all these threads about the same two things maybe we should all concentrate on the things that made us all buy the x10
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iead1 said:
Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
Please, save the kittens!!
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You just made my day. Lol

berbecverde said:
maybe we will get the missing layer by mail.
then we will have multitouch.
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I assume that by "mail" you mean you mean through the post as clearly they couldn't email you another capacitative layer electronically?!!!

iead1 said:
Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
Please, save the kittens!!
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Really?!... Think I might start a few multitouch debates then.. I don't think that this subject is being discussed nearly enough.. !!!!!!!!

im_iceman said:
I assume that by "mail" you mean you mean through the post as clearly they couldn't email you another capacitative layer electronically?!!!
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Yes i ment by postal mail,but that was just a joke
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berbecverde said:
Yes i ment by postal mail,but that was just a joke
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and so was my reply.. maybe too subtle?!

iead1 said:
Everytime someone posts a topic about multitouch or 2.1, God kills a kitten.
Please, save the kittens!!
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+1........

Pfff, you people should be happy you only hear this in the forum. Imagine living with a whiner. (me)
So kittens are killed hm? I don't care about that.
If it were puppies... but it's only about kittens

Even though it's worthless making a fuzz about it, since it doesn't change **** to the hardware of the x10 or SE implementing it sooner if possible.
Having that said, it is a disgrace that SE after almost 5 months since the release of the experia still dares to put up a big lie on their US website claiming the X10 does support multitouch. Such a thing is not an accident, the're not complete morrons at SE, it is purposely put there to mislead consumers into believing they are gonna be buying multitouch devices.
I'm really happy with my x10, but I find it a bit embarracing the way SE deals with information about the features and softwareupdates/bugfixes (like poor volume).

I think the people who care the most are those porn addicts who like to pinch and zoom the naked "whatever."
Please no more Kitten killings. Oops, I just did that.

Xperia X10 HD

http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/10/14/‘xperia-x10-hd’-to-land-in-a-matter-of-weeks-same-hardware/

This cannot be true. Just an upgrade mof X10 to android 2.1.
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It's a simple "re-brand" so they can market the phone again, but this time with a newer OS. Read the article, guys.

iead1 said:
It's a simple "re-brand" so they can market the phone again, but this time with a newer OS. Read the article, guys.
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Gee, where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, that is what I told you would happen back in April!

fm1776 said:
Gee, where have I heard this before? Oh yeah, that is what I told you would happen back in April!
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...? You said that SE would rebrand the phone in certain markets to refresh the marketability of the phone?

iead1 said:
...? You said that SE would rebrand the phone in certain markets to refresh the marketability of the phone?
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Exactly! The same thing they did on the P900 to the P910. And, than there was the X1 to the X2.
I told you in April, May, June, and July. I have owned four SE flag ship devices and this is exactly what SE do. What's their motto again? Oh yeah, Make Believe!
SE make you believe that you are getting the latest device and it turns out to be miles behind the devices that come out one week later!

fm1776 said:
Exactly! The same thing they did on the P900 to the P910. And, than there was the X1 to the X2.
I told you in April, May, June, and July. I have owned four SE flag ship devices and this is exactly what SE do. What's their motto again? Oh yeah, Make Believe!
SE make you believe that you are getting the latest device and it turns out to be miles behind the devices that come out one week later!
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Whoa, boy,
Whatever happened to "I'm running away in shame and hopeyou guys forgive my childish antics"?
Hmm... You really are a liar, through and through... Mommy's sooooo proud of you =D

As far as I can tell from the pic is that the HD is about video. Hence the "HD capture 720p". Read the small letters below the HD. They are just promoting the capability to capture HD videos in 720p.
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And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#

pshdo said:
And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
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That'd be the only positive thing I could see coming from this. Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope after all!
I won't hold my breath though. After I get some money I'm investing in an HTC or Motorola Android device.

Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France

JokerWrath said:
Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France
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Wow, something different in Singapore. We still have only X10 here so the marketing strategy will be different in different countries.
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Looking at the ad and translating it to English and then reading it in context it's obvious it is a marketing scheme. I don't understand why people are getting mad that a company wants to trick another group of people in to buying their product.
Edit: people getting mad would be fm1776 but I guess he/she was mad at SE before the telephone was invented
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pshdo said:
And dont forget that a device that hit the marked now with 2.1, is bound to get 2.2 upgrade down the line... that also means 2.2 for us...
Oh, and thats also why the roadmap only was up to 2.1... ;-)
Send from my X10, still without 2.1 *&%#
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Well its obvious id say this is the reason for the delay in the first place. Why would you wait on this coming out if u could get an old x10 last month cheaper with sane hardwate and hd video so they would have waited
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bongd said:
That'd be the only positive thing I could see coming from this. Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope after all!
I won't hold my breath though. After I get some money I'm investing in an HTC or Motorola Android device.
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I wish they would make a Xperia x10 12 mgp phone...
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 12 mgp

zm4 said:
I wish they would make a Xperia x10 12 mgp phone...
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE 12 mgp
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I don't. I have already a 12mp DSLR which isn't compromised by the lack of flash, camera software and OEM support. I wouldn't put my trust in SE with anything now that I know how awful the company is. SE is horrible.

JokerWrath said:
Orange is already making ad about the X10 HD.
The 2 pictures were taken in Paris, France
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Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?

qwer23 said:
Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?
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Nope. It looks just like the old Xperia.

qwer23 said:
Is that a second camera on the right side above the screen?
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It's the proximity sensor ;-)
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Swap Your X10 with HTC Desire (Singapore)

Hi All,
If any X10 user want to swap his/her Xperia X10 with my HTC Desire please send a PM to me.
My Desire is in very good condition n only 3months old, only contact if your phone is in very good shape.
(Singapore only!!)

xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi All,
If any X10 user want to swap his/her Xperia X10 with my HTC Desire please send a PM to me.
My Desire is in very good condition n only 3months old, only contact if your phone is in very good shape.
(Singapore only!!)
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No one dislike his/her Xperia X10 in SG!!
Strange!!!

Why would you make a trade like that? The Desire is much better than the X10. Hell, any HTC phone is better than an SE android phone. It doesn't even have real multitouch!

Product F(RED) said:
Why would you make a trade like that? The Desire is much better than the X10. Hell, any HTC phone is better than an SE android phone. It doesn't even have real multitouch!
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Because the Desire has smaller screen, amoled, 5mp camera, its ugly compared to x10 and it doesnt have real multitouch! It has the same dual touch that N1 with the cross axis problemhas and its absolutely the same with the one that x10 will have. Also Htc phones are known for bad cameras and bad audio quality so i dont think any Htc is better than any SE, and if you think that is the case wth did you buy an SE phone? Now gtfoh we dont need trolls like you. And to OP i think you should post in Market and not here.

Product F(RED) said:
Why would you make a trade like that? The Desire is much better than the X10. Hell, any HTC phone is better than an SE android phone. It doesn't even have real multitouch!
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SE Phones are way better, they just can't keep up with android fast iterations.
Anyway, I'm enjoying a very good implementation of android 2.1 on my Xperia X10i now.
About multitouch, i guess this is the same problem the nexus one had when i got multitouch.(Just guessing)

hey guys chill out, don't discuss or compare the phones now here
I just want to have Xperia X10 in place of HTC Desire, if anybody is interested just let me know, simple!!

Lol really strange..... Tey sayin htc is far much beter & many complain abt x10 but no1 commin up 2 trade 1.... Hahaha
I just love my fone vry much as it is..
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amerhere said:
Lol really strange..... Tey sayin htc is far much beter & many complain abt x10 but no1 commin up 2 trade 1.... Hahaha
I just love my fone vry much as it is..
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yeah, even there are threads regarding I hate my Xperia, M selling my Xperia, 1 Xperia User less, blap blap....and see m still waiting for a Single PM !!!!!!

Nankov said:
Because the Desire has smaller screen, amoled, 5mp camera, its ugly compared to x10 and it doesnt have real multitouch! It has the same dual touch that N1 with the cross axis problemhas and its absolutely the same with the one that x10 will have. Also Htc phones are known for bad cameras and bad audio quality so i dont think any Htc is better than any SE, and if you think that is the case wth did you buy an SE phone? Now gtfoh we dont need trolls like you. And to OP i think you should post in Market and not here.
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...I'm not trolling. First of all I have an HTC Evo. Second of all, there was no need for a post like. HTC phones are built better and SE never puts out updates for their phones. I'm open for debate, but there's no reason to be an asshole.

xperiax10.awesome said:
hey guys chill out, don't discuss or compare the phones now here
I just want to have Xperia X10 in place of HTC Desire, if anybody is interested just let me know, simple!!
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If you had a Desire Z I'd immediately trade mine. Heck, I'd almost trade for an original Desire if it were new but you live a little ways away (I'm in Canada) and we probably don't have matching bands anyway.
Good luck though.

Product F(RED) said:
...I'm not trolling. First of all I have an HTC Evo. Second of all, there was no need for a post like. HTC phones are built better and SE never puts out updates for their phones. I'm open for debate, but there's no reason to be an asshole.
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Well you come here to an x10 forum and post uselless coments like htc is better than se.. no one asked you and everyone has opinions regarding whats better than what. Because htc is build better thats why the owners of the flagship device DHD are complaining about the really ****y speakerphone the missalined unicover, the really bad camera, the headphone jack on the bottom, the space gap between the battery cover , camera and the unibody and the screen edges raised? And thats what you call built better? Anyway lets stop this useless posts and please dont post tings like that in the future. As i stated to the OP this thread does not belong here but in the market place where you can trade, sell and buy products.
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Hi All,
If any X10 user want to swap his/her Xperia X10 with my HTC Desire please send a PM to me.
My Desire is in very good condition n only 3months old, only contact if your phone is in very good shape.
(Singapore only!!)
I am posting again, please stop comparisons...dont post uselessly, only people inttersted in swapping should post...that too from SG only...plz cooperate, thanks!!!

xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi All,
If any X10 user want to swap his/her Xperia X10 with my HTC Desire please send a PM to me.
My Desire is in very good condition n only 3months old, only contact if your phone is in very good shape.
(Singapore only!!)
I am posting again, please stop comparisons...dont post uselessly, only people inttersted in swapping should post...that too from SG only...plz cooperate, thanks!!!
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Man dont post this here if you didnt read my post please post this in the MARKET where it belongs..not here!

bongd said:
If you had a Desire Z I'd immediately trade mine. Heck, I'd almost trade for an original Desire if it were new but you live a little ways away (I'm in Canada) and we probably don't have matching bands anyway.
Good luck though.
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Same here I would trade but probably wrong bands and you're too far away shipping would kill the deal.

Product F(RED) said:
...I'm not trolling. First of all I have an HTC Evo. Second of all, there was no need for a post like. HTC phones are built better and SE never puts out updates for their phones. I'm open for debate, but there's no reason to be an asshole.
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FRED!! from PSPMOD?
LOL. your a awesome guy!
You still on pspmod?

OmegaRED^ said:
FRED!! from PSPMOD?
LOL. your a awesome guy!
You still on pspmod?
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Yeah lmao. I'm still there. I'm actually a moderator now.

lol.. what are the odds.

urs74 said:
Same here I would trade but probably wrong bands and you're too far away shipping would kill the deal.
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Hmmm, I know...just waiting for someone from SG itself...
It seems SG users are qt happy with X10

Yes, we are all super happy with our X10s.
I think you have a better chance if you posted this in the Mobile Phone Bazaar section of Hardwarezone forums. Most certainly, there are more Singaporeans there.

I dont know why, but I have a feeling that there is some malicious agency at work trying to make xperia look trash. It is without doubt an awesome experience. And as long as you have it, why complain?
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Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems

Hey all,
Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems, yesterday I was looking at one of the topics on how to make my xperia x10 multi touch, when I connected my phone SE PC Suit indicated that there is an update, so I did it. It was for the multi touch.
The funny part is that about two months ago I was trying to enable Arabic, today I realized that the Arabic font has changed, and I thought that the update was also for languages, guess what.. IT DID, now I have Arabic, multi touch and god knows what else.
I just wanted to share this information with you guys and ask you, if the same thing about the Arabic happened (or will be) on the HTC Desire HD?

There's a rom by Lee that supports arabic fonts. It's called LeeDroid ARA.
Anyway I didn't notice any improvement with the latest x10 firmware. Kernel sucks as usual

Honestly... how much is Sony Ericsson pays u to say good things abt them here?
OUT WITH IT!!!
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nonentity said:
Honestly... how much is Sony Ericsson pays u to say good things abt them here?
OUT WITH IT!!!
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Depends on how much other competitive companies pay you to say bad things about SE
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not being rude but everyone has had mutli touch and so on months ago. you're a bit late.

mabaalkheil said:
Hey all,
Latest xperia x10 update solved all problems, yesterday I was looking at one of the topics on how to make my xperia x10 multi touch, when I connected my phone SE PC Suit indicated that there is an update, so I did it. It was for the multi touch.
The funny part is that about two months ago I was trying to enable Arabic, today I realized that the Arabic font has changed, and I thought that the update was also for languages, guess what.. IT DID, now I have Arabic, multi touch and god knows what else.
I just wanted to share this information with you guys and ask you, if the same thing about the Arabic happened (or will be) on the HTC Desire HD?
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you're a bit late for the information.
1st, its not a Multi Touch its a Dual Touch
2nd not all has been fix yet, In-call audio is not been fix...

MJ_QaT said:
Depends on how much other competitive companies pay you to say bad things about SE
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well said !!!! +1

Ok i don't want to say bad things about SE
As a Xperia X10 user, i disappointed on this SE news:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/02/25/questions-and-answers-from-mwc2011/comment-page-1/#comments
From now on, if there is no good HTC phone, i will buy SS, SE can't make a smart phone. SE made well cyber-shot phone, walkman phone, but smart phone always need update.

An other thing...
To call it multitouch, is quite a stretch....
It is at most bad implemented crappy not functional DUAL touch...
Clearly you have never tried real multitouch...
Do your self a huge favour and buy a HTC, and you WILL discover the difference...
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4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42

For me, I like my white X10, I can't find anything like it on HTC or Samsung, which a lot of people here are praising. Stop crying on your wrong choice, SE got your money already, just move on. Ha! Ha! Ha!

My SE phones always functions correctly, what I hear about Samung/HTC phones is not positive. They dont always function correct. So I'm happy with my x10! And the dual touch works perfect. And yes I already used some real multi touch on other smartphones.
PLEASE DEVELOPERS CRACK THE BOOTLOADER!! YOU GUYS ARE OUR ONLY HOPE!

Lol that's bs... I had a htc hero before this and my gf has a desire z. Htc phones work just as well, maybe even better.
The only reason I switched was because I got my x10 for a really good price and because of the bigger processor.

@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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nonentity said:
@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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So you are the victim? Um, pretty much every android gets one major OS upgrade, including HTC and Samsung, so the problem is that you made the wrong purchase. If having the latest OS version was so important, why did you buy the x10 which came with 1.6 and said "updateable to 2.1"?

agentJBM said:
So you are the victim? Um, pretty much every android gets one major OS upgrade, including HTC and Samsung, so the problem is that you made the wrong purchase. If having the latest OS version was so important, why did you buy the x10 which came with 1.6 and said "updateable to 2.1"?
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Seriously, it is the shape and size and the way it fits on my palm... why did I buy when it already said upgradeable to 2.1? It didn't... when I bought it, it was just 1.6... when u bought the win 7, does it says that it will be upgradable to sp1 or 2? That's the same reason...
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nonentity said:
Seriously, it is the shape and size and the way it fits on my palm... why did I buy when it already said upgradeable to 2.1? It didn't... when I bought it, it was just 1.6... when u bought the win 7, does it says that it will be upgradable to sp1 or 2? That's the same reason...
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That was my point. You bought it with 1.6(updateable to 2.1), so why are you whining about 2.2+?

agentJBM said:
That was my point. You bought it with 1.6(updateable to 2.1), so why are you whining about 2.2+?
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The same reason when win7 sp1 was not distributed... and more and more softwares r starting to be obsoleting on 2.1... and if X10i is not on android platform, I wouldn't even bother to stop by and take a look...
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It solved nothing. I appreciate the improvements to mediascape, but the phone for me is a heck of alot slower. The Dual touch is basically useless and now my phone restarts constantly.

nonentity said:
@MJ_QaT: If that's the case why dun u ask ur dear SE to release 2.2 or 2.3 updates as we r already 2 steps behind and 2.1 apps r getting obsoleted, as well as releasing the bootloader and FPS while u r at it...
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Alright, will that be with tomato or without?
If SE releases all these, then I'll agree wif u abt their update services... until then, I keep talking bad abt them for other companies FOR FREE!!!
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Just a phone man
and regarding their updating service they will provide it up to two years from production, but it doesn't mean they will Upgrade the OS to latest, it only means that if there were a bug to fix, they will release and update to fix it.

MJ_QaT said:
Just a phone man
and regarding their updating service they will provide it up to two years from production, but it doesn't mean they will Upgrade the OS to latest, it only means that if there were a bug to fix, they will release and update to fix it.
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By buying the phone, at the same time, r we not buying their services as well as their brands? Look at X2 for an instance... that phone was a total failure which only receive few updates and hangs even more than the earlier update...
I really hope that u r right man and also hoping that history dun repeat itself... if not, they are just saving the lastest for their next phone in order to market it...
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X10 mini pro gets an unofficial dt.

As u know x10 mini pro gets this driver and as I understood it works even better than our dt (it's real dt/MT) the question is is there any chance to have it on our x10?
Did u ever played a gameloft game which needs dt?in this case u will feel the lack of real dt.
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If mini gets real mt we will get it also at least i hope so.
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I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.

Mister J said:
I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.
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Well only SE knows the truth about that.
And until they stop hiding the all the info from us.
We may never know.

shahkam said:
If mini gets real mt we will get it also at least i hope so.
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Why would that matter the hardware is completely different..

Mister J said:
I believe that if mt was possible then we would of already had it. Its been said over and over again that the x10 can't support mt.
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They originally said dt was not possible either so...
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AyDee said:
They originally said dt was not possible either so...
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Yes and managed to give us buggy dual touch. If it is a huge conspiracy then why did they even give us the buggy dual touch? Why not just maintain that anything other than single touch was impossible?

Erm, did I say one word about conspiracy? Simply stating a fact relative to the topic.
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fiscidtox said:
Yes and managed to give us buggy dual touch. If it is a huge conspiracy then why did they even give us the buggy dual touch? Why not just maintain that anything other than single touch was impossible?
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That my friend is simple.
There was a huge out cry for MT.
But if they gave us proper MT then buying a arc, play or neo.
Would seem less viable.

OmegaRED^ said:
That my friend is simple.
There was a huge out cry for MT.
But if they gave us proper MT then buying a arc, play or neo.
Would seem less viable.
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There was no huge outcry....
People thought that it wasn't possible, they were upset but there was no huge outcry at all
Why would there be an outcry for something you didn't think was possible?
If anything se willingly came our about the dual touch upgrade possibility without any pressure.

fiscidtox said:
There was no huge outcry....
People thought that it wasn't possible, they were upset but there was no huge outcry at all
Why would there be an outcry for something you didn't think was possible?
If anything se willingly came our about the dual touch upgrade possibility without any pressure.
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Did you read any of the blog comments?
Even the one's SE deleted?
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What seems like an eternity ago, the X10 was announced with a capacitive screen but no support for multitouch and was met with incessant rants from users all demanding the same thing in rather an “Attack Of The Clones”. Sony Ericsson suffered greatly with negative reviews flowing in, not helped by the outdated OS, and it seemed the “Revenge Of The SE-haters” was stronger than ever. However, keen fans were offered “A New Hope” when Sony Ericsson suggested via their blog that the feature would be added in future updates:
“Xperia X10 has a capacitive screen. It does not support multi-touch functionality at launch, but is considered for the future.”
Sumit Malhotra
That hope was soon dashed though as the “Empire Struck Back” when SE stated that the X10 would not be receiving multitouch and lacked support for the feature through both software and hardware limitations:
“I don’t have any technical details around the screen to share, sorry! – However I have now gotten confirmation on the question of multi touch. As said earlier there’s no multitouch in X10 – and I also can confirm that it’s not only related to SW but also to HW.”
Rikard Skogberg
It appeared all hope was lost as without hardware support there was surely no way back but on a remote moon some determined hackers were not about to give up and managed to make rudimentary multitouch gestures work on the X10. SE apparently noticed this and decided, not to be shown up by the community, that they should get in on the act themselves which brings us officially to the “Return Of The Multitouch”!
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http://blog.se-nse.net/xperia-x10-to-officially-receive-multitouch-support/

like I said though people were definitely upset but I hardly saw a huge outcry, not like the one there was for support past 2.1 anyhow.
Regardless, if we could even improve this dual touch I would be happy, playing games us brutal when one of the controls either sticks or doesn't respond..

Thanx all 4 the infos.
So as I understood the x10 hardware doesnt support it but isn't it strange that x10 mini pro have it and our x10 with same genre doesn't??
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mohsentz said:
Thanx all 4 the infos.
So as I understood the x10 hardware doesnt support it but isn't it strange that x10 mini pro have it and our x10 with same genre doesn't??
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You would think they put better hardware in the x10. Being more expensive
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rtblittlebrown said:
You would think they put better hardware in the x10. Being more expensive
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Didn't they just get better dual touch, with some effort we could probably get the same..
Unfortunately I don't know much programing

Even if it's just 2 touches without the jittery jumpy crap.
I will be completely happy with my x10.
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I just find it odd that the x10 being way more expensive and the x10 mini being cheaper.
Well you get the point.. why would it be weaker?

OmegaRED^ said:
Even if it's just 2 touches without the jittery jumpy crap.
I will be completely happy with my x10.
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I just find it odd that the x10 being way more expensive and the x10 mini being cheaper.
Well you get the point.. why would it be weaker?
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I agree completely two touches with no bugs and I would be fully satisfied..
The new better dt wasn't directly from se though was it? Maybe ask the programmers what they did to fix it

Here's the thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064558