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Hey everybody. I would like to start a global thread about Mugen 3000 battery REVIEWS. I would like to ask the moderators of this Forum to try and keep this thread tidy as in let's only keep the reviews here, and the general questions in other threads.
Mugen 3000 Review
Ok... I'll go first.
My two Mugens got here 2 days ago. I got a 3000 and a 1500.
Let's focus on the 3000.
- Back cover: GPS flap is a FAKE. No camera protection lens. Shiny, non-rubberized back (I like it better this way) with 4 little legs to keep it floating a bit above the surface (you hear the speaker better).
- Battery: double size, heavier than the standard.
THE REVIEW ITSELF WILL BE A SUMMARY OF PERFORMANCE INDICATORS AND USAGE TOTALS.
I will keep updating this post of mine as I evaluate the performance of this battery.
Keep in mind that I am a BATTERY FREAK and I test batteries to PERFECTION.
If you don't want to read through this long review, you can skip down to the "FAST FORWARD REVIEW" or to the "CONCLUSIONS". See post number 4 in this thread.
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CHARGE CYCLE 1 - FACTORY DEFAULT
2008-03-26
- Battery came loaded at 63%. After 2 days I'm stuck at 15%. I spoke about 20 minutes on the phone and used the GPS for about 15 minutes. I worked on it about 1 hour adding contacts and such.
- I installed Battery Status for a more correct measurement of the battery but I never saw it disagree with the measurement of the system (in the tray).
- As I said, I am now STUCK at 15%. It was 15% at 16:00 and now it's 23:00 and it's still 15%. Weird. I suppose that it's better than what others described (they needed to reset or remove the battery for the device to realize that there is still some juice in it). We'll see what the following days have to say about this.
2008-03-27
- Battery Status sucks. The program does NOT DETECT CORRECTLY the battery usage, nor does Windows. Today I woke up with my battery at 7%. I soft reseted. Same reading. I shut down Windows and started again. Same 7% reading. I removed battery (with Windows turned on) and put it back again. New reading: 15%. Now after 1 hour I'm at 9% and holding. Almost 3 days of usage with the factory battery. I spoke about 20 more minutes.
- BATTERY DEAD after 2.5 days. Activities total: ~40 minutes phone, ~15 minutes GPS, ~2 hours screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
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CHARGE CYCLE 2 - FIRST FULL CHARGE
2008-03-28
- Full charge this night. 19:00 - 04:00, for a total of 9 hours, just to be sure I respected the instructions for the battery. But it was charged in about 3.5 hours, with about 1.5 hours more than the standard battery. So it charges its capacity pretty fast. Let's see how long it lasts. So far, I'm at 95%. No conversations yet, pretty much no usage. 5% gone in 10 hours, mostly stand by.
- After only 21 hours since the charge, I lost 24% of the battery. I did some text editing for about 30 minutes and about 17 minutes of talk time. I'm pretty disappointed by this relatively "standard" consumption.
2008-03-30
- Two more days passed. I am now at about 64 hours since the charge, so almost 3 days. I used the GPS for about 30 minutes yesterday and talked for about 10 more minutes in total (I don't talk a lot). But the battery is pretty damn low, 28%. I expect it to start dying tomorrow evening. I'll probably remove it and put it back again to see a correct reading.
2008-03-31
- Fourth day approaches its end and I'm stuck at 15%. It appears that my Mugen 3000 has something with this 15% value. It spends a lot of time at 15%. I read that you can stop the device from shutting down when the battery is almost dead by tweaking the registry. I will write the solution here if it proves to be valid. UPDATE: Now at the end of the day, I'm left with 4% juice. I hope there is more under the hood. Today I spoke for about 30 minutes and did no more than 10 minutes of text editing.
2008-04-01
- It's 02:16 (AM) and now it's 94 hours after the full charge. After 5 minutes of talk battery went to 1%. I was too curious about how much there really is left so I removed the battery and put it back. First reading was 44% but it decreased rather fast to 42%. I'll see how it is in the morning. UPDATE: morning, 35%. 10 minutes of talk time so far.
2008-04-02
- At the middle of this day, the Mugen 3000 still holds on. 15% battery after 5.5 days, 10 more minutes of talking. This funny 15% again... been holding already for a few good hours.
- Day end... almost. Battery at 12%. 5 more minutes of talking. So I'm close to 6 days. The Mugen is definitely kicking ass apparently.
2008-04-03
- Only 2% left of my battery now in the morning. Roughtly 6.3 days passed since the charge. I spoke for 20 more minutes.
- BATTERY DEAD after 6.5 days. Activities total: ~102 minutes phone, ~30 minutes GPS, ~40 minutes hours screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
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CHARGE CYCLE 3 - SECOND FULL CHARGE
2008-04-05
- I full-changed it yesterday at about 09 in the AM. Now, after 30 hours (so ~1.3 days) I'm at 69% after 15 minutes of talking and 15 minutes of screen usage (reading / writing). Not such a great number really...
2008-04-06
- After 2.2 days I am at 56%. This is well within the reasonable 20% lost per day I got used with when using the standard battery. I only talked for 9 minutes today so far, and pretty much didn't use the phone for anything else. Since I didn't use the GPS, I find it the ok-ish level of the battery quite explainable. It's good to use the phone like this because I will make a review which is centered on exclusive Phone usage. And right now I'm happy with how things are.
2008-04-07
- Battery @ 31% after 3.2 days and 6 more minutes of talking. I'm satisfied with this so far and expect the battery to last for about 36 more hours until it first dies. This should take me to 5 days. We'll see if I reach the 5 days and how does Windows behave with the registry tweak I made last week. If it auto-shuts down again it sucks. It means I'll have to take the battery out and put it back again every 4 or 5 days, which sucks!
2008-04-08
- Guess what's the battery consumption today. 15%, of course. The famous 15%. It was 15% 12 hours ago, it's the same now. I expect it to start dying really soon though. I talked for 22 more minutes today so far and 4.2 days passed since the full charge. EVENING UPDATE: After 16 more minutes of talk I'm crushed at 7%. However, I will not remove the battery and put it back again to get a real reading. I will wait to see if the registry tweak works or not.
2008-04-09
- After exactly 5 days, I got 40% left. Today I spoke for 15 minutes so far. UPDATE: evening at 5.5 days, battery left: 28% after 11 more minutes of talk.
2008-04-10
- Exactly 6.1 days @ 11%. Pretty disappointing really, considering that I haven't used the GPS at all. But I talked for 51 more minutes, so that is probably what drove the battery down. UPDATE: At 6.5 days I got only 4% left after 10 more minutes of talking.
- BATTERY DEAD after 6.6 days. So this is how the Kaiser behaves as PHONE ONLY. Activities Total: ~155 minutes phone (so 2 hours and 35 minutes), ~20 minutes screen usage (writing / reading). No WiFi, No BlueTooth.
WILL CONTINUE NEXT WEEK WITH A GPS ONLY REVIEW, let's see how this baby performs on a long GPS run.
weekend (from fri 6pm to sun 9pm) - bluetooth on, one hour talking, email checked every 30 min -after 2 days i had 30%
regular day f(from 7am to 6 pm) - - 1 hour, playing games (1 hour), phone 1 hour , email every 30min - batery status 50%
Mugen 3000 Review - CONTINUED
FAST FORWARD REVIEW
CHARGE CYCLE 1 - FACTORY DEFAULT
2008-03-26 - So far I am very happy with the way the battery behaved, especially considering that I use it the first time, no charges yet.
2008-03-27 - 2.5 days is ok for a first-time use of the battery. I'm very pissed off that I can't have accurate battery readings from any program!
CHARGE CYCLE 2 - FIRST FULL CHARGE
2008-03-28 - Pretty disappointed because of fast consumption with relatively nothing done with the phone. It's still the first cycle so I have hope for better at the next cycle. Also, probably the readings from BatteryStatus aren't correct and the power is a bit higher than it says.
2008-03-30 - 28% after some long GPS usage and a bit of talking is reasonably well. I'm waiting for the second full charge to draw more conclusions. Also waiting to see the battery reading after I pull it out at 0% and put it back again.
2008-04-01 - This is not an April's Fool joke. I'm very happy with the Mugen 3000 so far. 4.5 days and it's still holding strong even after GPS and talking.
2008-04-03 - Battery dead after 6.5 days - a very good result considering that I used the GPS (30 minutes) and talked in a normal way (102 minutes), without restraining myself.
CHARGE CYCLE 3 - SECOND FULL CHARGE
2008-04-05 - 31% of gone in 30 hours at the second full charge. Not so great really, considering I haven't spoken so much.
2008-04-07 - Almost 3.5 days and I'm at 30%. Acceptable by any standards, especially considering that the battery is actually at more than 30% if I remove it and put it back again.
2008-04-10 - I expected more bang from the battery since I didn't use the GPS, but I talked quite a bit. The Windows Registry tweak is bull**** apparently, the device still autoshutdowns when reaching 0%. Even if the battery is really at 50%. Very very annoying!!!
2008-04-11 - I used the Kaiser in PHONE ONLY mode for this period. It lasted about 6 days and 16 hours
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CONCLUSIONS
THE GOOD:
- About 70% to 90% more juice than the standard battery. This baby really has a lot of energy to give and it will last you A LOT.
- Stated capacity (3000 mAh) is pretty much what you get. So Mugen didn't lie about this (too much). Considering that the standard battery is rated at 1350 and this one does not really last twice as much, it's probably less than 3000, but it's still a great performer.
THE BAD:
- Big size, heavy.
- Delivered back cover is a poor match to the phone.
THE TERRIBLE:
- There is NO WAY to read the battery accurately. Let me repeat that. THERE IS NO WAY TO READ THE BATTERY ACCURATELY. This SUCKS!!! The registry tweak I tried does NOT work and Windows simply shuts down when the battery reaches 0%, even though the battery is NOT dead. You need to REMOVE and put the battery back 2 to 4 times in order to really kill it. First time Windows reaches 0%, the battery is actually at 44%. You must TAKE the back cover OUT, then REMOVE the battery, then PUT IT BACK AGAIN and ONLY THEN you get the accurate reading. This is a very big downside of this battery and I suggest you think very well at this before you buy it.
ALL IN ALL:
- I'm happy ::- ). That's because I'm a battery freak and I like to have a very long lasting battery in any phone I own. So far, this is the best battery I had in my entire life in a phone. A battery that lasts almost 7 days after you talk for 2 hours and a half is GREAT. But I don't think I'll use it always. It's very very disturbing having to remove it every few days a couple of times. I think I'm going to keep it for long journeys and use it from time to time so that it doesn't degrade. I will probably use this one for a month than switch to the standard one for another month and so on.
Your way of testing the battery is not accurate because its not a consistant drain from 1 minute to the next. You should start with your OEM battery and use that as the benchmark. To do the test, first fully charge the OEM battery. Turn off the phone radio so you dont get incoming calls or SMS, turn on wifi, run a gps program to activate the GPS, turn on BT, play a video clip and set it on repeat, set the screen brightness to the max. The video clip playing on repeat will prevent the screen from turning off. Doing all this will create a constant and consistant drain on the battery. Now with everything is going, unplug the charger and start the timer. check on the battery level every 10 minutes and record the battery life until the phone shuts off. Once that's done, start the test with 3000mah battery. Doing the test this way will let you know at which point the battery meter becomes inaccurate for the 3000mah. When the test is done you can also calculate the exact battery capacity of the 3000mah. I've done a test like this for my 2800mah battery and it yield 2950mah when it was a week old then 2850mah when it's about 3 months old.
How is the battery life in this bad boy?
Talk time Up to 10 hours on 2G
Up to 7 hours on 3G
Standby time Up to 290 hours on 2G Up to 250 hours on 3G
Internet use Up to 5 hours on 3G
Up to 6.5 hours on Wi-Fi
Video playback Up to 7 hours
Audio playback Up to 20 hours
Id say about the same as any recent smartphone.
are these the official times on the website, or are these real life numbers
melterx12 said:
Talk time Up to 10 hours on 2G
Up to 7 hours on 3G
Standby time Up to 290 hours on 2G Up to 250 hours on 3G
Internet use Up to 5 hours on 3G
Up to 6.5 hours on Wi-Fi
Video playback Up to 7 hours
Audio playback Up to 20 hours
Id say about the same as any recent smartphone.
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have you confirm this???
.....both?
melterx12 said:
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is that a declaration or a question?
these are advertised on googles official site... but that doesnt mean theyre wrong.
http://www.google.com/phone/static/en_US-nexusone_tech_specs.html
i should i said "anybody that owns a Nexus One:How is the battery life? "
I got mine with about 30%, took about 3 hours to kill it completely, I didn't put it down the whole time, I was on Gtalk, web, handcent and downloaded about 80 apps, my brightness is set to 50%, had GPS and WiFi off, 3G on. Seems alright so far, I'm charging it now that I let it die completely, so I feel like I'll get real results after that, but if it only takes 10% an hour to use it like I have been it will be more than fine for me in daily use.
I got 8 hours on mine on 3G with 1 hour of gps
Very, very preliminary:
Got mine at 11:00 this morning, charged it (turned off) to 95% by 13:30, have been playing with it for about 20-30 minutes per hour all day (so probably about 3 total hours of "use"). No phone calls, but lots of 3G. It's now 17:15, and the battery is at 56%. Screen is on next-to-lowest brightness, reception is good in my area.
Seems on-par-with or slightly-better-than my Dream.
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Blows the G1 out of the water by far. I used navigation (gps) for 4.5 hrs straight on battery and still had enough juice left over to make it through the evening.
I've also made it 48 hrs on a single charge with fairly light usage. Even on days when I hardly put the thing down I don't run out of juice before I go to bed.
jairuncaloth said:
Blows the G1 out of the water by far. I used navigation (gps) for 4.5 hrs straight on battery and still had enough juice left over to make it through the evening.
I've also made it 48 hrs on a single charge with fairly light usage. Even on days when I hardly put the thing down I don't run out of juice before I go to bed.
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Yes sir you are right, I installed over 85 apps and I didn't even lose a quarter of my battery life. On g1 i would be down at least 50%.
+1 to the above 2 posters
Fully charged with Wi Fi on, my phone lasted just over the 12 hours of my shift. So just good enough in my book.
How can cell standby be using 45% of my battery?
Is it all that damn switching back from 3g to edge?
Yup, did some non formatl testing the last few days. First day left it to use 3g and 2g.
End of the day it has 58% of battery use and the batttery lasted about 14 hours.
Second day I set it to 3g only, battery went down to about 35-40% and lasted about 20 hours.
Today I set it to 2g only. Battery is at 90% and it's beeng on for 5 hours. Cell standby is 20% so far. The other days at this same time (5 hours after charge) it was already 40-50%.
My build:
Android ROM: shubCRAFT_v1.5 (latest build with the regular version I downloaded last night!)
WM: Energy.Leo.23127.Sense2.5.Aug.28
Sandisk 16GB card (stock)
Radio: 2.12.50.02_2
SPL: HSPL3_PKG
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I also modified the WM with autoboot using the program FD DroidBoot and also using the energy tweak that you can download the .cab file at RT @xdadevelopers Post: Increase Battery Life [WinMo registry tweaks - Need confirmation] http://bit.ly/9gnTvO. I use SetCPU at 245/768 when operational and 245/245 when screen off with ondemand at 100%. No 3G but only EDGE was used for this experiment for web browsing.
I will update with the results in this post soon... I also decided to use the Batteryminder app so that I have a more scientific way of quantifying what is going on with my Android build.
Timeline to be posted here:
August 31, 2010
7:26 AM- 100%, 15 hours 6 minutes
downloaded 1 Amazon mp3 (free one) by Heart and Backgrounds Free App off marketplace
7:39 AM- 98% 21 hours 11 minutes
7:48 AM- 97% 20 hours 3 minutes
8:02 AM- 95% 20 hours 7 minutes
used XDA app and surfed a few threads using it (temperature averaging 30.2 C which is pretty nice and low) as well as a few websites using Browser
8:33 AM- 92% 19 hours 19 minutes
Did a number of text messages to friends...
9:17 AM- 86% 18 hours 1 minute
9:27 AM- 84% 18 hours 2 minutes (8% battery drain/hour with moderate use)
9:52 AM- 81% 17 hours 18 minutes (2 hours 26 minutes 31 seconds since unplugged according to Battery use tab now)
10:20 AM- 75% 16 hours 4 minutes (2 hours 55 minutes 54 seconds since unplugged according to Battery use tab now)
11:04 AM- 69% 15 hours 9 minutes
Minimal use of more text messages and Google Voice with friends while waiting for the UPS guy to arrive with package this morning...
More web surfing with 1-2 pages
11:20 AM- 67% 14 hours 15 minutes (3 hours 54 minutes 31 seconds since unplugged according to Battery use tab now)
**Projecting 11.7 hours of moderate use using this particular build with tweaks**
11:54 AM- 60% 13 hours 6 minutes
12:28 PM- 52% 11 hours 23 minutes
UPS guy arrives with replacement HD2 for the other broken screen one.
12:42 PM- 50% 10 hours 9 minutes
12:59 PM- 45% 9 hours 5 minutes
1:19 PM- 39% 8 hours 10 minutes
1:48 PM- 33% 7 hours 14 minutes (6 hours 22 minutes 38 seconds since unplugged according to Battery use tab now)
**Projecting 9.57 hours of moderate use using this particular build with tweaks**
2:13 PM- 29% 6 hours 18 minutes
2:51 PM- 26% 5 hours 11 minutes
3:02 PM- 25% 5 hours 19 minutes (7 hours 36 minutes 45 seconds since unplugged according to Battery use tab now)
** Projecting 10.16 hours of moderate use using this particular build with tweaks**
4:22 PM- 17% 3 hours 18 minutes
4:37 PM- 15% 3 hours 16 minutes
4:54 PM- 11% 2 hours 23 minutes
4:55 PM- 10% 2 hours 12 minutes (9 hours 30 minutes 3 seconds since unplugged according to Battery use tab now)
** Projected 10.5 hours of moderate use using this particular build with tweaks**
5:06 PM- 8% 1 hour 18 minutes
5:13 PM- 5% 1 hour 6 minutes (9 hours 47 minutes 38 seconds since unplugged according to Battery use tab now)
5:26 PM- 0%(?) phone dead
7:26 PM to 5:26 PM = 10 hours of moderate use
RATING: not bad for battery use but I was hoping for longer for full day's use.
NOTE: By the way, feel free to post up your "scientific" and anecdotal battery tests in this thread so that we have a formal benchmark for comparison. Thanks!
Hmm, do you mind downloading Current Widget and telling me what power consumption figure it reports after your HD2 is on standby (ie. screen off)?
On my HD2, running Miri v17, with WM power tweaks and a couple of widgets running,
darkstone's HD2Froyo v2 uses a massive 60ma during standby.... in comparison his HD2Froyo v1 build only uses 14ma. Someone posted that Bangsters uses 9-10ma on standby, while shubicraft 1.5 uses 44ma (not sure if they tested with or without widgets though)
To me that looks like certain Android builds are using more power than others, but I haven't quite figured out why yet. Would be helpful if we can get a list of the Android builds that are known to have low standby/screen off power consumption, then we can figure out what makes these particular builds so energy saving!
im using energy froyostone witch i believe is based on v1 with sense? its 56ma on standby.
aussiebum said:
Hmm, do you mind downloading Current Widget and telling me what power consumption figure it reports after your HD2 is on standby (ie. screen off)?
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Sounds good I will download Current Widget pretty much on the build for tomorrow then
My build:
Android ROM: FroyoStone Series V1: Sense Version
WM: Energy.Leo.23127.Sense2.5.Aug.28
Sandisk 1GB card
Radio: 2.12.50.02_2
SPL: HSPL3_PKG
NOTE: The display brightness (default) is twice as high as the first build I tested yesterday...
I also modified the WM with autoboot using the program FD DroidBoot and also using the energy tweak that you can download the .cab file at RT @xdadevelopers Post: Increase Battery Life [WinMo registry tweaks - Need confirmation] http://bit.ly/9gnTvO. I use SetCPU at 245/768 when operational and 245/245 when screen off with ondemand at 100%. 3G speed was used for this experiment for web browsing and apps.
I will update with the results in this post soon... I also decided to use the Batteryminder app so that I have a more scientific way of quantifying what is going on with my Android build.
Timeline to be posted here:
September 1, 2010
8:50 AM- 97% 13 hours 4 minutes
9:00 AM- 95% 20 hours 5 minutes
9:34 AM- 90% 19 hours 23 minutes
9:40 AM- 88% 19 hours 21 minutes (49 m 43 s since unplugged)
**6.81 hours of estimated battery life**
9:49 AM- 85% 18 hours 18 minutes
10:02 AM- 80% 17 hours 12 minutes (1 h 12 m 33 s since unplugged)
**6.08 hours of estimated battery life**
10:17 AM- 77% 16 hours 8 minutes
10:26 AM- 75% 16 hours 5 minutes (1 h 36 m 17 s since unplugged)
11:06 AM- 66% 14 hours 5 minutes (2 h 15 m 51 s since unplugged)
**6.80 hours of estimated battery life**
11:40 AM- 59% 12 hours 6 minutes
12:23 PM- 52% 11 hours 21 minutes
12:36 PM- 50% 10 hours 11 minutes (3 h 36 m 21 s since unplugged)
**7.53 hours of estimated battery life**
1:05 PM- 43% 9 hours 2 minutes
2:16 PM- 36% 7 hours 0 minutes
2:24 PM- 33% 7 hours 15 minutes (5 h 33 m 42 s since unplugged)
**8.35 hours of estimated battery life**
2:51 PM- 25% 5 hours 6 minutes (6 h 0 m 56 s since unplugged)
**8.02 hours of estimated battery life**
3:05 PM- 21% 4 hours 9 minutes
3:19 PM- 16% 3 hours 5 minutes
3:40 PM- 10% 2 hours 9 minutes (6 h 49 m 45 s since unplugged)
3:47 PM- 7% 1 hour 7 minutes
3:52 PM- 5% 1 hour 6 minutes (7 h 2 m 2 s since unplugged)
4:00 PM- 2% 2 minutes
4:02 PM- 1% 13 minutes
4:05 PM- 0% phone dead
8:50 AM to 4:05 PM = 7 hours 15 minutes of battery life
RATING: not a very good or efficient build of Android based on battery life. 3G web surfing sucks down battery life but this is definitely not my favorite Desire build Hope that battery life can improve for this one.
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My build:
Android ROM: FroyoStone Series V1: Sense Version
WM: Energy.Leo.23127.Sense2.5.Aug.28
Sandisk 1GB card
Radio: 2.12.50.02_2
SPL: HSPL3_PKG
I also modified the WM with autoboot using the program FD DroidBoot and also using the energy tweak that you can download the .cab file at RT @xdadevelopers Post: Increase Battery Life [WinMo registry tweaks - Need confirmation] http://bit.ly/9gnTvO. I use SetCPU at 245/768 when operational and 245/245 when screen off with ondemand at 100%. 3G speed was used for this experiment for web browsing and apps.
I will update with the results in this post soon... I also decided to use the Batteryminder app so that I have a more scientific way of quantifying what is going on with my Android build.
Timeline to be posted here:
September 1, 2010
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before you start.. can you let me know if this "fix" will help? It's certainly fixed my standby batt drain with HD2Froyo v2... => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770903
aussiebum said:
before you start.. can you let me know if this "fix" will help? It's certainly fixed my standby batt drain with HD2Froyo v2... => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770903
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I tried this fix for a test phone last week and it didn't seem to help matters much. It depends on the build. I used the energy modification .cab file at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7614810#post7614810 and ran that instead and it helps a little better.
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I tried this fix for a test phone last week and it didn't seem to help matters much. It depends on the build. I used the energy modification .cab file at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7614810#post7614810 and ran that instead and it helps a little better.
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Oh, I should be more specific - I was referring to my posts in that thread that I just posted today - at least for HD2Froyo V2 build, removing the "new" /system/lib/hw/lights.qsd8k.so and restoring the original one (from the android build which the particular hd2 android build was derived from) drastically lowered my standby power drain. With setcpu, etc I'm hovering around 7-9ma at the moment.
Some people have reported problems trying this out on Shubcraft 1.5 builds so a word of caution
aussiebum said:
Oh, I should be more specific - I was referring to my posts in that thread that I just posted today - at least for HD2Froyo V2 build, removing the "new" /system/lib/hw/lights.qsd8k.so and restoring the original one (from the android build which the particular hd2 android build was derived from) drastically lowered my standby power drain. With setcpu, etc I'm hovering around 7-9ma at the moment.
Some people have reported problems trying this out on Shubcraft 1.5 builds so a word of caution
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Ah, I would try this fix although since I am doing a build by build comparison, I can only use the same tweak on all the builds so the results are comparable. Chalk it up to the scientific method here
I got 7 mA based on Current Widget on standby when using this particular build which is pretty good in fact . I presume that is the usual amount using SetCPU program?
hey guys where can I dl setCPU ?
My build:
Android ROM: HtcClay's SuperHD2 V1.1
WM: Energy.Leo.23127.Sense2.5.Aug.28
Sandisk 2GB card
Radio: 2.12.50.02_2
SPL: HSPL3_PKG
I also modified the WM with autoboot using the program FD DroidBoot and also using the energy tweak that you can download the .cab file at RT @xdadevelopers Post: Increase Battery Life [WinMo registry tweaks - Need confirmation] http://bit.ly/9gnTvO. I use SetCPU at 245/768 when operational and 245/245 when screen off with ondemand at 100%. No 3G but only EDGE was used for this experiment for web browsing.
I will update with the results in this post soon... I also decided to use the Batteryminder app so that I have a more scientific way of quantifying what is going on with my Android build.
Timeline to be posted here:
September 2, 2010
7:57 AM- 95% 15 hours 7 minutes
8:12 AM- 93% 20 hours 19 minutes
8:47 AM- 89% 19 hours 5 minutes (50 minutes 9 seconds since unplugged)
9:01 AM- 84% 18 hours 4 minutes
**the phone crashed and the screen locked in dimness; had to reboot**
9:23 AM- 79% 17 hours 15 minutes (15 minutes 22 seconds since unplugged; reset/reboot screen dark in near sleep)
9:32 AM- 76% 16 hours 18 minutes
9:35 AM- 75% 16 hours 4 minutes
10:02 AM- 68% 14 hours 7 minutes
10:08 AM- 66% 14 hours 6 minutes
10:23 AM- 63% 13 hours 21 minutes
10:33 AM- 61% 13 hours 23 minutes
11:01 AM- 59% 12 hours 10 minutes
11:29 AM- 51% 11 hours 10 minutes
11:32 AM- 50% 10 hours 9 minutes
11:51 AM- 46% 10 hours 4 minutes (2 hours 45 minutes 3 seconds since unplugged reboot)
12:07 PM- 42% 9 hours 12 minutes
12:11 PM- 39% 8 hours 10 minutes
12:38 PM- 37% 8 hours 7 minutes
12:52 PM- 33% 7 hours 14 minutes
12:57 PM- 32% 7 hours 0 minutes
1:23 PM- 25% 5 hours 5 minutes (4 hours 16 minutes 13 seconds since unplugged reboot)
1:49 PM- 21% 4 hours 5 minutes
2:00 PM- 16% 3 hours 4 minutes
2:17 PM- 11% 2 hours 0 minutes (5 hours 9 minutes 37 seconds since unplugged reboot)
2:20 PM- 10% 2 hours 11 minutes (5 hours 13 minutes 18 seconds since unplugged reboot)
2:32 PM- 6% 1 hour 16 minutes
2:33 PM- 5% 1 hour 5 minutes (5 hours 25 minutes 9 seconds since unplugged reboot)
2:36 PM- 4% 4 minutes
2:40 PM- 2% 2 minutes
2:43 PM- 1% 12 minutes (5 hours 35 minutes 58 seconds since unplugged reboot)
2:44 PM- 0% phone dead
7:57 AM to 2:44 PM = 6 hours 47 minutes of battery life for this build.
Rating: Not a stable build with the Energy ROM and the battery life is terrible even with the tweaks. I don't like the interface either so no go. Will test with other ROM's too later on.
Nothing that we don't already know. Running on mem card = fast drainage. Android is a nice novelty to play with, but until there is a NAND resolution, i'll be sticking by wm6.5 for my 2.5 days on moderate use.
lude219 said:
Nothing that we don't already know. Running on mem card = fast drainage. Android is a nice novelty to play with, but until there is a NAND resolution, i'll be sticking by wm6.5 for my 2.5 days on moderate use.
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7ma is a fat drainage for you? I couldn't get less than 22ma on wm, some get 4 but I never could have that number after a lot of customizations... Android battery life is GOOD bro
10 hours of battery life seem kind of weak to me. I'm using Shubcraft 1.4 with setCPU 1036/245 and my phone has been unplugged since yesterday around 8:30 that's 24 hours ago and I still have 44% left.
Data always on (3G or EDGE depending on the coverage, email syncing every hour, facebook too), I made a few calls, sent a few texts, played a couple games (not for long, I was just showing them off ), did a little browsing and updated 10 apps from the market over Wifi (I turned it off just after). During the night I let the phone on but obviously didn't use it during my approx. 6 hours of sleep.
I'm really surprised that you guys don't get the same battery life since I got all my settings in a thread on xda and nothing more.
If it is of any interest to you I'm using WM chuckyROM WWE tabastic (I don't remember the exact version) and 2.10.50.28_2 Radio.
I also have 7 ma in standby, and it goes up between 250 and 390 when going to the Android Market and installing several apps in succession, which should be pretty intensive for the battery (that's the highest consumption I had).
It can last a normal day's use very easily, with still about 40-50% battery after 12 hours unplugged (granted, I don't spend the whole day surfing the web, but I still use it quite often for short periods during the day).
When I don't use it much (standby most of the time, maybe 20-30 minutes of use), it still has around 65-70% when charging it around 12 hours later.
I use the Mattc 1.7 Sense build (with the Omega 10 XT CHT WM ROM and 2.12 radio).
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(granted, I don't spend the whole day surfing the web, but I still use it quite often for short periods during the day).
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Alas, my battery testing involving continuous web surfing and email checking unstopped in general so perhaps my tests are about excessive use? I do about 100-200 text messages a day as well as surf like 50-120 pages and do apps as well. That's my extent which is pretty huge I suppose?
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7ma is a fat drainage for you? I couldn't get less than 22ma on wm, some get 4 but I never could have that number after a lot of customizations... Android battery life is GOOD bro
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Tell me when you can run it for 2.5 days on moderate use, bro. In the meantime, enjoy struggling with 10hrs battery life and doing countless battery monitoring.
lude219 said:
Tell me when you can run it for 2.5 days on moderate use, bro. In the meantime, enjoy struggling with 10hrs battery life and doing countless battery monitoring.
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That is because we can't stop playing with it all day. I am loosing 1% each hour in standby, guess how many days it is. Actually developers think the same and I would be curious to see a real battery test between wm and android... That would be a nice thread to do.
well i decided to give my phone a break and left it on minimum usage for almost 4 days now, other than some calls here and there, a bout of angry birds and checking mail via gprs and wifi.
after 4 days battery level is at 51%, (using battery indicator pro) and this is quite impressive considering my minimum usage and now am wondering how long it will go. 8days? maybe?
this is on stock JPY...no root or lag fixes.
Interesting,
Battery Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh
Stand-by Up to 750 h (2G) / Up to 576 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 13 h 30 min (2G) / Up to 6 h 30 min (3G)
thats the offical line in the specs
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well i decided to give my phone a break and left it on minimum usage for almost 4 days now, other than some calls here and there, a bout of angry birds and checking mail via gprs and wifi.
after 4 days battery level is at 51%, (using battery indicator pro) and this is quite impressive considering my minimum usage and now am wondering how long it will go. 8days? maybe?
this is on stock JPY...no root or lag fixes.
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Hehe, I didn't do reallife tests, but assume without usage you can make over 20 days I used to have my phone on standby for about 30h, data,wifi off, 2G only,and lost 4%, that extrapolates to about 30days on standby?
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