Hi there guys/girls,
I have a Moto Atrix and have been offered a Samsung Galaxy S II as a straight swap.
Can anyone advise me on whether this is a good deal?
I love the Atrix battery life but don't like the locked bootloader which means no dev support.
Any advice is appreciated.
Ron
Yes it is a fios deal, and of you dont want give me that deal
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ronak47 said:
Hi there guys/girls,
I have a Moto Atrix and have been offered a Samsung Galaxy S II as a straight swap.
Can anyone advise me on whether this is a good deal?
I love the Atrix battery life but don't like the locked bootloader which means no dev support.
Any advice is appreciated.
Ron
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Look for prices on eBay. Its a great deal... go ahead and do it. If you don't like your sgs2 then give it to me. I'll give you my atrix plus shipping expenses lol.
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I'd go for it in a heartbeat.
Everyone seems to think it's a better phone....
Do you guys not think it's too big? What about the battery life? Also is the screen honestly better ( when I say better I mean is it sharper and clearer ) ?
Batery is better, screen to, less. Resolution, 1080 recording and play, and of you sell it you can buy 2 atrix
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Batery is better, screen to, less. Resolution, 1080 recording and play, and of you sell it you can buy 2 atrix
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Battery is far from better, this guy is on crack.
1650 mah on GS2 to 1930 mah on atrix.
I like the higher resolution screen on the atrix. The atrix also has 1080p play, not recording yet(unless you want to mod).
The atrix is only on 2.2.2 right now, but we'll be receiving a 2.3.3 update in the next month or two. (Correction 2.3.4)
I couldn't be more happy with my atrix, I like the fact that I can do whatever I want for the entire day and never run out of battery. I also like the fact that the resolution of the phone is so high (960x580 or something like that?). I couldn't stand looking at pixels all day with a 800x480 screen.
The simple fact that I know I can watch videos and play games on my phone for the entire day without worrying about the battery is reason enough for me to keep it. Also the fact that we're getting the 2.3.4 update soon is good enough for me to not jump ship.
Both phones are great but the battery life the atrix offers, the resolution of the screen, and the tegra2 processor are all keepers for me.
Enjoy your phone! Either choice is good.
Thanks for the reply Magnetox...
I was hoping for a response along those lines, I myself was very hesitant to do the swap as I genuinely like the Atrix and have had many android phones to know and appreciate how good the battery is on the Atrix.
The reason I made the post was because alot of people told me to do the swap but deep down I was very hesitant as having had the nexus s and galaxy s I know about the battery life, as far as the Super Amoled display is concerned I think it's the biggest over hyped screen in the world.... Yes the blacks are great but the other colours are so far from natural it makes everything look cartoony.
Once again big thanks to Magnetox.... I think I'll stick with the Atrix and wait for 2.3.4 as for everyone recommending the SGS2 I'll let you be the sheep that follow and make a big mistake.
Is something wrong with his Galaxy S II? I don't see why he would want to do this swap.
The Atrix is good, but the S II is perhaps the best phone on the market.
No it's brand new in the box.
But he likes the docks and webtop that the Atrix has.
What makes the SGS2 the best phone on the market?
Here is a pretty good break down between the 2:
http://www.inspiredgeek.com/2011/03...shootout-for-the-ultimate-android-smartphone/
Also, no info. on when the new Google Nexus 4G will be released, but it's specs look really bad ass! If it goes to AT&T, I may consider jumping ship and get it... probably won't be out for some time though.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/15/exclusive-google-nexus-4g-detailed-720p-display-4g-lte-android-4-0/
drool... ice cream sandwhich...aaaahhhhhhh
Oh I forgot to mention the speaker on the Atrix is also frickin awesome!
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No it's brand new in the box.
But he likes the docks and webtop that the Atrix has.
What makes the SGS2 the best phone on the market?
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The Super AMOLED Plus display is the best with amazing colors.
The dual core Exynos processor is extremely fast- there's no lag at all. Touchwiz is ok, the main thing is it doesnt cause the phone to lag.
It has Gingbread.
It is unlocked.
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Oh I forgot to mention the speaker on the Atrix is also frickin awesome!
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send him my way. I'll give him an unlocked Atrix + Lapdock for that SGS2.
I pay the shipping for both of us.
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The Super AMOLED Plus display is the best with amazing colors.
The dual core Exynos processor is extremely fast- there's no lag at all. Touchwiz is ok, the main thing is it doesnt cause the phone to lag.
It has Gingbread.
It is unlocked.
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This is not an over-exaggeration. The vibrancy of the colors on the display is amazing. I have a Captivate and will probably get an Atrix in the next two weeks (I just upgraded 11 days ago), but I know I will miss the hell out of this screen. The minute AT&T's GSII is released, the Atrix will most likely be sold.
There are 22 pages of replies here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1047861
Please, look in there. I'm sure you'll find your answers.
As much as I love my Atrix, I'd say swap right away!
Isn't the SGS2 about $700 USD?
If so, then sell the SGS2 for a profit and get a new Atrix once more and save some money in the process.
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Thanks for the reply Magnetox...
I was hoping for a response along those lines, I myself was very hesitant to do the swap as I genuinely like the Atrix and have had many android phones to know and appreciate how good the battery is on the Atrix.
The reason I made the post was because alot of people told me to do the swap but deep down I was very hesitant as having had the nexus s and galaxy s I know about the battery life, as far as the Super Amoled display is concerned I think it's the biggest over hyped screen in the world.... Yes the blacks are great but the other colours are so far from natural it makes everything look cartoony.
Once again big thanks to Magnetox.... I think I'll stick with the Atrix and wait for 2.3.4 as for everyone recommending the SGS2 I'll let you be the sheep that follow and make a big mistake.
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Glad to help out.
Both are great phones, I just prefer the atrix.
Higher res + better battery + tegra 2 games = better phone
(at least in my opinion)
Cheers! You'll enjoy either of them.
EDIT: Once the bootloader gets unlocked by motorola (they said they would), or once it gets cracked or bypassed, this phone will be even better than it is now! It is much more futureproof IMO than the GS2
Atrix Specs: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-ATRIX-4G_id4982
SGS2 Specs: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II_id5106
People who say the SGS2 has horrible battery life are wrong.
SGS2 Vs Optimus 2X (Tegra 2 with same resolution as SGS2) benchmarks:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...s---guess-who-scored-3732-on-Quadrant_id18505
SGS2 wins Quadrant, smartbench 2011, nenamark1.
They tie on the browser mark, each winning 1 of the 2 runs.
SGS2 full review: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Review_id2728
Atrix full review: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Review_id2665
Again, the battery life is virtually identical. The atrix has a bigger default battery, but the SGS2 is more efficient. SGS2 clocks down to 200mhz when turned off whereas the Atrix only clocks down to 400mhz in my experience.
Gingerbread has no dual-core enhancements, so the Atrix will only see a small bump in benchmark scores from updating, but nothing to bring it over the SGS2.
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Atrix Specs: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-ATRIX-4G_id4982
SGS2 Specs: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II_id5106
People who say the SGS2 has horrible battery life are wrong.
SGS2 Vs Optimus 2X (Tegra 2 with same resolution as SGS2) benchmarks:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...s---guess-who-scored-3732-on-Quadrant_id18505
SGS2 wins Quadrant, smartbench 2011, nenamark1.
They tie on the browser mark, each winning 1 of the 2 runs.
SGS2 full review: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-Review_id2728
Atrix full review: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-ATRIX-4G-Review_id2665
Again, the battery life is virtually identical. The atrix has a bigger default battery, but the SGS2 is more efficient. SGS2 clocks down to 200mhz when turned off whereas the Atrix only clocks down to 400mhz in my experience.
Gingerbread has no dual-core enhancements, so the Atrix will only see a small bump in benchmark scores from updating, but nothing to bring it over the SGS2.
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Doesnt the optimus 2x only have 512 mb of ram? And isn't it running froyo 2.2? Not a fair comparison.
Gingerbread may not have dual core enhancements... but it most definitely makes the phone faster. Updated drivers, new kernels, improved efficiency.
Benchmarks have been done on the gingerbread atrix and it showed around 10-20% improvement in FPS. Im assuming there's not so much motoblur to slow it down.
The drivers are obviously much more optimized for the atrix in gingerbread. Here's the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhdEeu3WUXA
51 FPS on nenamark. Stock clock. Currently the atrix does 43 fps. Correct me if I'm wrong but thats 20% increase in FPS. That means this phone is going to be flaming fast in gingerbread once the bugs are worked out.
Also, the battery life IS NOT IDENTICAL.
The atrix clocks down to 216 mhz. Stop spreading false information. The atrix has better battery life. Period.
The fact that the SGS2 only has 4 gpu cores, and the atrix has 8, is a huge difference.
Once overclocking kernels are available the atrix can stably sit at 1.2 ghz IM SURE, and it has the battery life to do so. And it will have 8 cores @ that 1.2 ghz.
The atrix is more futureproof IMO.
That's why I'm sticking with it.
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I decided after playing around with the inspire that I'm gonna return it on Tuesday and move up to the atrix. Anyone else doing this? Root has been obtained for inspire but its pretty complicated for a noob like me.
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Same here. I really liked the Inspire, think I'll like the Atrix more.
I'm also exchanging my Inspire for the Atrix. While I love the screen, I found the phone itself to be too large for my tastes.
It's likely that root on the Atrix, if it is achieved, will be far more difficult than the Inspire. The Inspire is just an AT&T version of the Desire HD which has been available for some time and is well understood. Being a "newb" and not understanding how to use a phone or do certain things is not a good reason to return one for another phone that will be as or even more complicated...
I already returned my inspire. I liked it but the battery issue was a deal breaker for me. I want a phone that at least will give me 8 hours of battery time, the inspire died in my pocket before lunch one day.
Same here. The battery issue and slow CPU.
The atrix is way better than inspire.
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Same here. The battery issue and slow CPU.
The atrix is way better than inspire.
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I am all in for the Atrix, but you would be hard pressed to find a phone other then the Atrix, right now that keeps up with the Inspire's CPU scores.. Not Dual-Core, but not slow.
Lol I know being a noob isn't a good reason. Yeah battery does suck though, sound sucks, led notification works half the time, and I'm getting some crappy yellowish tints on a lot of my pictures. In willing to take a $35 hit on restocking fee, plus extra $100 that atrix cost for the extra processor, ffc, and hdmi out.
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I am all in for the Atrix, but you would be hard pressed to find a phone other then the Atrix, right now that keeps up with the Inspire's CPU scores.. Not Dual-Core, but not slow.
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For quadrant I was getting 1700, for smart bench....can't remember scores but it was low...I remember seeing atrix pulling 2800 quadrant in a video from ces. 1100 difference is huge, my aria running cm 6.1.1 oc'd to 825 got 1102
Edit: ran smartbench because I was curious..got 861 productivity, 1273 games index...yeah reallllly low scores...I think quadrant favors snapdragon
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I bought my inspire for $99 4 days ago and ordered the atrix on the same account same number for $199.00 I will hold on to both and see which one is better. Right now the inspire is flawless and the atrix will have to do something really special to win this fight.
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I bought my inspire for $99 4 days ago and ordered the atrix on the same account same number for $199.00 I will hold on to both and see which one is better. Right now the inspire is flawless and the atrix will have to do something really special to win this fight.
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Yeah..bought mine without contract..do can't afford to keep both lol
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falconeight said:
I bought my inspire for $99 4 days ago and ordered the atrix on the same account same number for $199.00 I will hold on to both and see which one is better. Right now the inspire is flawless and the atrix will have to do something really special to win this fight.
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How did you do that using the same line?? If it works i would definitely do the same!!
I am just wondering. Does a Dual core phone with 1GB RAM (not sure how much is usable) make so much difference in usage as compared to Inspire with 768MB RAM and 1 Ghz processor?
It's not like we have to use processor intensive apps like "matlab" or something
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Same here. The battery issue and slow CPU.
The atrix is way better than inspire.
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I am getting atrix as well and I am on inspire right now. yes it is a slower cpu then the one in atrix, but does it feel slow? inspire feels like the fastest android phone I have ever used up to this point. I really dont think it is atrix will feel any faster just because it has faster hardware. May be it will handle things better in the future. For now it has been great.
Inspire's already old tech. Good choice on returning it.
You got to admit... The inspire is built well. Man, that thing is a nice slab of metal! I would say it's the best built phone I've ever used. I too will be returning for the atrix (shipped tomorrow to my local at&t store) just for the battery life alone as the inspire's battery is real bad... My concern is the built QLT of the atrix. All cheap feeling plastic? Weird, as MOTO usually makes a solid feeling device... hmmm
I got the Inspire last week. Best thing about Inspire is Sense IMHO. It has the best email, phone and calendar software of any devce I know. BUT I think the camera, screen, battery and sound are all inferior (I also have a CaPTIVATE that has a perfect custom ROM so everything works). I will also give the Atrix a go and then decide which to keep.
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I will hold on to both and see which one is better. Right now the inspire is flawless and the atrix will have to do something really special to win this fight.
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Ditto........
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I am just wondering. Does a Dual core phone with 1GB RAM (not sure how much is usable) make so much difference in usage as compared to Inspire with 768MB RAM and 1 Ghz processor?
It's not like we have to use processor intensive apps like "matlab" or something
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Well... yes, depending on what you're doing. The dual core processor os going to let you do things faster, and help keep the phone from slowing down when running cpu intensive apps like games and sstuff.
The ram will help keep thongs open; with 512 I.can have a browser and maybe aan app pr two, but open a game then switch to the browser, and the game resets because android tries to run it all in the background.
More RAM will allow more things to stay open in memory along with allowing a smoother overall experience.
Captivate 2.2.1 Paragon
do you have to pay in order to return the phone? and/or is there a fee to exchanging it to an atrix?
Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I've had a nexus s and it does not lag at all, neither does my atrix. Single core or dual core it doesn't seem to make a difference to me. In my experience the atrix has better battery life. As far as the screens go that's a matter of opinion, the samoled seems more vibrant but is utterly useless in sunlight. As much as I hate BLUR, I chose the atrix over the nexus s and once we have an AOSP Rom I will have no regrets whatsoever.
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Thewalrus0034 said:
Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I had the nexus s, it wasn't much of an improvement over my custom rommed Captivate, so I took it back. I was also looking forward to the Galaxy S2's release in America, until I got Gingerbread on my Atrix. There is no way the GS2 will be a substantial improvement over my Atrix now.
The Motorola Atrix was voted as the best phone at CES, and with Gingerbread it lives up to those accolades. Froyo and the ridiculous price of the lapdock killed this phone's initial release.
Take a look at the top results on Smartbench 2011, there is a reason Samsung delayed the GS2's release and overclocked it to 1.2ghz. Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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Once the Atrix gets overclocked to 1.5ghz, those top results will change.
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So will the battery life lol
Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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Also, does the lack of NEON support make a difference for the average user?
EDIT: reread my post, thought I didn't include the question, reread it again, realized I did.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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I was worried about lack of neon. But honestly it doesn't even matter at this point in time, apps don't even come close to making neon cpu make any difference whatsoever.
By the way, just got an atrix today! Found craigslist superb deal.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
I had nexus so and atrix together for two weeks. There is major performance difference between the two. Nexus s's 512 mb ram was the deal breaker for me, it was not enough. I think I'm spoiled by the 1gb ram.
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If you want to play normal or hi profile x264 it does.
Really annoying to have to re-encode to baseline x264. For xxxx's sake this phone can push 3D pixels like Samurai Vengeance II but can't handle HD video encoding, WTF.
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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I really like my Atrix, but I would wait and see what the next Nexus phone will bring.
Atrix ftw, i think its best phone so far for me
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Saw a topic where someone played it with gingerbread, so no.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
I own both and I prefer the Atrix.
With an AOSP ROM this phone will scream.
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Yeah yeah, I've seen the similar threads but they're not up to date especially with gingerbread released. I'm due for an upgrade on the 26th and want to get a new phone before college in mid August. I've posted a similar forum excluding the nexus on the gs2 forum, but I want to hear the other side. I prefer the 4" screen, but also want to root and not have motoblur, and I hear the phone lags when you do that. I realize the nexus s is single core but are dual cores that much faster with current software? I like longer battery life and an led notfier since I'm coming from a blackberry Curve. Can anyone say how the screens compare, I've heard the pentile display is terrible, but have yet to see for myself. Finally I'm told that the atrix does not have neon support, is that a difference for the average user? Thanks in advance.
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I would stay away from the Nexus S. Ya, it's Raw Goog but the sub-par RAM, single core chip and cheap plastic construction just aren't worth it especially on a new contract.
I'm loving my Atrix on GB, rooted, de-blurred (Titanium freeze) and running Go Launcher EX. I experience no lag, web browser is lighting fast, GPS is the best I've experienced from a phone. That's my experience and opinion. Considering the timing of your upgrade I would suggest checking the SG2 out as it may be more to your liking. Some people like Sammy HW some don't (I personally hate it, especially their damn "Chin" design philosophy).
That said, you cannot go wrong with the Atrix, it's an excellent phone. I traded in my Inspire 4G at a loss and don't regret my decision one bit.
Oh, and DL/UL speed in Houston, TX I've been averaging 3.5mb down (6 max) and 1.3mb up (2.1 max). Inspire 4G never made it over 2.5 down (1 Ghz. w/ 768mb RAM). Atrix is on par with my friend's EVO 4G (Sprint WiMax, he avgs 2-3 but has a max he's gotten of 7 once) and another friend's T-Bolt (Verizon LTE, 5-6 avg and a max of 8). And yes processor and RAM do affect your up/down as it's partially determined by the amount of data your phone can process, another reason to stay away from the S at this point.
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well thats welcome news. I'll do some research. A really time consuming thing to investigate (encode, copy to phone, see if it plays, rinse and repeat)
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Might have been my thread. I apologize, but I was wrong. Even tough performance has increased substantially (from 8-10 fps to an average of 24) when playing high profile h.264, it still isnt perfectly smooth and, for some reason, the episodes of Game of Thrones were mute for me, which indicates a continuing lack of support to audio codecs. After converting it with the Handbrake method, it worked flawlessly.
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The Atrix and the SGS2 have different offerings. SGS2 has a standardly overclocked processor, a bigger, brighter screen, less weight, and a GPU accelerated browser. The Atrix has a much higher pixel density, better battery life, and a specialized game store (Nvidia Tegra Zone which, despite the lack of titles in numbers, the ones it DOES have possess highly improved graphics over standard versions).
And for many of us, it has a lapdock, which is a perfect netbook replacement if all you do is work with word, excel, and light web browsing, being lighter and having better battery life than many netbooks. Its also fun like hell to play at customizing it
I like the overall build with the Motorola Atrix, but without the GPU accelerated and NEON support, would I be at a significant hardware disadvantage for everyday use? I feel I wouldn't. Also, any complaints about the screen?
Okay. Opera provides a gpu accelerated browser that is blazing fast. The screen is really nice, but you may notice grainy greens.
Edit: oh, neon support isn't an issue, at least for me. Most of my videos can be played using moboplayer.
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The atrix also is not sized like a giant brick but weighing like a feather toy (the #1 reason I didn't go for the SGS2). Form factor wins for me. Not to mention in Australia, atrix is 150-200 dollars cheaper.
I would say though with froyo it is noticeably inferior. But that's no longer an issue, whether stock or unlock BL/custom ROM.
If you want a big screen and fast phone....sgs2, if you want sething new and try some mods atrix, if yu are a hard modder HD2
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Now that there's actual photos of the AT&T galaxy family, would anyone consider it a superior choice? I kinda like the idea of a physical keyboard but I'm used to portrait like on my blackberry.
Sorry if its a repost. So whos going to upgrade!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/21/...akes-its-atandt-debut-october-2nd-for-199-on/
Im not biased to any phone. I like anything new and high powered. Cant get me wrong I love my Atrix but the Galaxy S II is tempting.
i'm pretty happy with my Atrix, i think i'm gonna hold off on upgrading until a decent quad core phone comes out on the market.
Not enough of an upgrade to think about it.
The Devs have really just started to take this phone to its capabilities so worth hanging in for a while longer.
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When the SGSII came out back in... May(ish), it seems liked I should have not gotten an Atrix and waited for the SGSII to come to AT&T. the SGSII had a bigger screen, faster CPU, no Blur, no locked bootloader, and already had a pre-beta of Cyanogen out within two weeks of the phone hitting the international market.
Fast Foward to today. The Atrix has an unlocked bootloader, a *solid* beta of CM7, MIUI in the works, a bigger battery, and the performance is close to that of the SGS (in CM7 while OC'd) - in some tests it is noticeabley faster.
The SGSII also seems to have some hardware issues that have been reported. Yellowing of the screen on the left side is the most reported issue.
Now look to the future because the SGSII isn't going to come out for another two weeks. Should we have all waited to get an SGSII? No way, not IMHO. I was sitting on an iPhone 3GS for months and months after I was eligible for an upgrade, I was just waiting until something big came out or the phone died. I'll be honest, at first I did regret my Atrix purchase at times. Software versus 4.1.26 had a TON of bugs in it, 4.1.57 did too. 4.1.83 was solid, and when we got GB the phone was pretty solid. Now with CM7 I have no complaints over the phone at all, and I'm glad I didn't suffer with my iPhone 3GS for the last 7 months (I bougt the Atrix on release day) waiting for the SGSII after returning the Atrix to wait for the SGSII.
If I had waited this long for the SGSII with my iPhone 3GS, I would likely pass up the SGSII and wait for more info on the Nexus Prime.
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One thing I don't miss going from my captivate to atrix is in the power usage menu "display" being like 95%. I don't know why they say SAMOLED use less power. I know the screen on the sgs and sgs2 is different but they're close enough IMO. Also after all the BS with GPS and poor update from Samsung I don't know if I could buy another. As far as specs....IMO I don't think it's worth the upgrade the specs are really similar. The only reason I might be tempted is for the dev support.
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as someone who has had both i can assure you the atrix is a much more all-around solid piece of hardware.
like reported above the screen on the SGSii may be bigger but it has its issues (yellow left on most handsets and battery consumption).
the battery is simply way worse then atrix.
and what got to me the most about going back to the atrix was the sound quality, it was simply horrendous, especially for a high-end phone like that.
the sound chip on it is sub-par compared to the original SGS even, with high end headphones i was getting distortions, low volume, and very un-even sound, to anyone who wants to listen to music on his phone this one simply kills the deal.
atrix has a very very good audio experience compared.
same goes for call quality.
and the phone doesnt even have a led for notifications.
also doesnt have an hdmi-out without you buying some special cable adapter.
what does seem to be on its side is a huge dev base working on it and realeasing things daily but the atrix is starting to catch up... just give it some time.
either way upgrading from a atrix to a galaxy 2 is pretty stupid, except for a bit larger screen you really dont get anything in return for all that cash.
i'd wait atleast another year before ditching the atrix. theres simply nothing today that it cant handle so why buy another "future proof" phone when your current one is still "future proof"
Definitely sticking with my atrix <3
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It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.
i just upgraded this july so no sgsII for me. the galaxy was going to be my upgrade, but it just took too long to come out. also, it's not gonna be the latest and greatest anymore like it would've been when it came out internationally, the sgsIII will probably be out internationally in 6 months since most phone lines get upgraded yearly.
my friend mentioned the PS Vita yesterday and i'm doing research on that to see if it has enough functions to become a phone for me.
s1mpd1ddy said:
... the screen on the SGSII is so lustworthy... it oozes awesomeness. Other then that --- Atrix is better IMO.
i want both.
iphone5 too if its nice.
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I'd rather have an atrix with an average screen than have a SAMOLED that destroys my battery. I have an upgrade available and being 100% honest I'm waiting for a new BB QNX mobile phone to drop next year. The new 9810 with os7 was actually a pretty big step forward in speed and functionality and supposedly QNX will be able to run Android apps as well. Not saying it's gonna be the king of phones but it looks pretty cool.
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My wife is getting it in October, about 2 weeks after it comes out. She is already in love with it and the fact that we are getting the NFC enabled version made her happier. She's almost as big a nerd as I am. (I'm not allowed to touch it, she wants to do everything on her own)
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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?
I have the infuse plus an atrix, while the screen on the infuse is so sexy,, the atrix for me has the total package,, the sgs2 for me is not that much of a upgrade from my atrix, even the infuse for that matter, sure it has godly specs, but in real world usage, even my old ass dinc still get the job done,,
I dont like where the smartphone market is heading.. things need to slow back down. alittle,, before you know it, the atrix 3 will be out 3 months after the atrix 2 at the end of the year, lol
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isn't the sgs2 screen still 800 x 480?
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It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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It is. I wouldn't be able to go to the lower resolution.
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.
The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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yeah i forgot about that lower rez -- UGH -- why put it out at a lower rez then qHD? COME ON SAMMY.
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exactly why i love the screen on my infuse.. but the atrix for everything else, lol
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It appears to have a lot of dev support, but how many of those ROM's are the exact same thing with a different theme? That's the way the Captivate was until CM7 dropped...everything was the same.
I'll stick with the Atrix.
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Not all the same - they had different themes!
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The newer Super AMOLED Plus displays have more sub-pixels and they do not use pentile anymore which also helps eliminate the "grainy" look. I would still like to see qHD but I don't think there is going to be much to complain about on these screens.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/2...s-than-previous-amoled-screens-better-colors/
http://www.oled-info.com/super-amoled-plus-resolution-explained
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I owned an Infuse and loved the screen and the colors, but I would rather have a higher resolution screen. I find the lower resolution something to complain about, although it isn't that big of a deal for some people.
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So I do like my Atrix but I have the chance to do a straight trade for a Sensation.
I love Sense and would like a better camera.
Atrix does have 16gb vs the Sensation and its 8gb card, but I hardly have any space used up on mine. Its just photos and apps that are taking space pretty much - maybe 4 songs.
I dont use webtop. I like knowing the Atrix has the HDMI out and for the sensation - it has the option to do it but you need to buy the adapter cable. As much as I like the thought of that feature, I havent even used it yet lol.
I knwo the battery life on the Atrix is obviously better. I would buy a spare battery for the Sensation though and just keep it in my wallet just in case, like I used to do with my Motorola Milestone. The battery isnt very big.
Both have the same resolution and qhd.
The ROM support on the Atrix is lacking, and it looks very populated on the Sensation.
My girlfriend has the Desire which I have ROM'ed for her and its ROM support is very active and up to date for a phone of that age - I can expect the same for the Sensation?
Anything about the Atrix that is worth keeping over the Sensation?
Anything about the Sensation that should warrant the trade to it?
Thanks guys
Tried my friend's Sensation out for a day and he tried my Atrix out for the same day.
The Sensation was slightly laggy, even for such a powerful processor (or was i just used to the smoothness of the Atrix?) camera was awesome and overall the phone is pretty damn good! However, he got it back with a full battery (had to charge it overnight or else it would die on me) whereas when he gave my Atrix back, it was still running on the charge from a day ago, after his heavy use too (albeit, it was nearly dead). If i was you, i'd stay with the Atrix, but at the end of the day, it's up to you.
Only if you don't mind losing battery life...
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Was your friend's Sensation running a custom ROM?
I would run ARHD on it and have Setcpu underclocking when needed as well. That ROM is said to have better battery life.
But as far as battery goes , Like I said I would just buy a spare and keep it with me. I did that with my Milestone and it wasnt much of a hassle.
And as far as the lag goes, there are TONS of animations in Sense, which I love the look of. If I wanted a period of time with no sense and more smooth performance, I would just throw on Go Launcher as my launcher, like I am with the Atrix
Apart from the battery life though, any other reason of sticking to the Atrix?
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Was your friend's Sensation running a custom ROM?
I would run ARHD on it and have Setcpu underclocking when needed as well. That ROM is said to have better battery life.
But as far as battery goes , Like I said I would just buy a spare and keep it with me. I did that with my Milestone and it wasnt much of a hassle.
And as far as the lag goes, there are TONS of animations in Sense, which I love the look of. If I wanted a period of time with no sense and more smooth performance, I would just throw on Go Launcher as my launcher, like I am with the Atrix
Apart from the battery life though, any other reason of sticking to the Atrix?
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AFAIK it was all stock, not even rooted. We just like to swap our devices every once in a while (done the same with game consoles). I'm not saying it's a bad device though
If your on AT&T your not going to get anything above 3g on the phone most likely will be stuck in Edge. The drop in the phone storage and the battery also not using Tegra 2 CPU which according to some websites and reviews I have seen say that the Qualcomm is about 10-15% slower than the tegra 2.
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If your on AT&T your not going to get anything above 3g on the phone most likely will be stuck in Edge. The drop in the phone storage and the battery also not using Tegra 2 CPU which according to some websites and reviews I have seen say that the Qualcomm is about 10-15% slower than the tegra 2.
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yea i dont see that as a good idea as your buddy who gets the atrix will be the clear winner in that trade!
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I am in Canada, so not on AT&T
How would he be the clear winner?
As far as processor speed..
I'm sure those websites reviewed it as stock though, and not using an optimized ROM.
The Atrix is much faster using a ROM vs stock as well.
We all have difference opinions. Some may love it but some may not. Try testing out at places or with a friend and get the feel for it. Dev here are not very active just yet but in mean time they will.
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I am in Canada, so not on AT&T
How would he be the clear winner?
As far as processor speed..
I'm sure those websites reviewed it as stock though, and not using an optimized ROM.
The Atrix is much faster using a ROM vs stock as well.
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I used to have an atrix and personally.. trading it for a sensation was the best move ever. However, I had to add on a bit of cash
I hate how the atrix recognizes the internal as an "sd card" and my other reasons was because Sense>Motoblur (in my opinion!) and I liked the looks of the sensation more + on top of that, (correct me if I'm wrong) the development in atrix forums seemed to slow down.. and on the other hand, sensations dev is still going strong! I also think that the back cover is 100x better - but, there's also flaws with the sensation cover. Can't say it's perfect
Also everyone complaining about battery life.. my sensation was unplugged 10pm last night, went to bed, woke up with 90% remaining, went to work! Got home it's now 3pm and I'm at 55% (I had a ~30 minute call and lots of texts as well as gmail syncing 2 accounts/facebook/twitter) HOWEVER I'm using a different battery. Look up "Anker". This thing is a beast! Surprisingly, it's lasting very well. I wouldn't say the battery is an issue. With this 55% it will definitely last me until tonight!
Just my two cents! I'm also in canada as well and signal/speed isn't an issue either.
You seem to be defending the sensation a lot as if you want it, its your choice, so just go with whatever you want, everyone has their own opinions.
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You seem to be defending the sensation a lot as if you want it, its your choice, so just go with whatever you want, everyone has their own opinions.
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Well, if he defends it and everyone elses opinions/arguments are better than his, then the atrix will be the clear winner! and agreed with the opinions part!
I am not "defending" the sensation, since I dont even have it; its just that people are saying the Atrix is better but their arguments dont really justify it to the extent of them defending the Atrix lol
Of course we all have different opinions. I think one of the first things I said in the initial post was that I love my Atrix
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I am not "defending" the sensation, since I dont even have it; its just that people are saying the Atrix is better but their arguments dont really justify it to the extent of them defending the Atrix lol
Of course we all have different opinions. I think one of the first things I said in the initial post was that I love my Atrix
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i would stick on the Atrix bandwagon for a little while longer, we're about to get nightlies on CM7 which means all our devs will be able to work on their own individual projects again. the only reason our development slowed down was because ibproud organized most of the Atrix devs into a group to port CM7 for us; now that it's almost done, people will start building their own ROMs and hacks.
it may take a month or two more, but it'll most definitely be worth the wait
Very interesting question.
Here's how I weigh everything up.
Atrix:
- Faster processor (despite being 1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz)
- Better GPU (more effecient, less heat and THD games)
- Much brighter display
- More RAM
- Much better battery
- Better Touchscreen (Sensation has issues)
- No death grip issues
- Webtop and fingerprint scanner
Sensation:
- Better build quality
- Sharper display (RGB stripe vs PenTile)
- Brand recognition
- Better community
- Much better camera
So it's really up to you with what you prioritize.
OMG totally trade for the sensation I heard the next ROM will support quad core.
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So I do like my Atrix but I have the chance to do a straight trade for a Sensation.
I love Sense and would like a better camera.
Atrix does have 16gb vs the Sensation and its 8gb card, but I hardly have any space used up on mine. Its just photos and apps that are taking space pretty much - maybe 4 songs.
I dont use webtop. I like knowing the Atrix has the HDMI out and for the sensation - it has the option to do it but you need to buy the adapter cable. As much as I like the thought of that feature, I havent even used it yet lol.
I knwo the battery life on the Atrix is obviously better. I would buy a spare battery for the Sensation though and just keep it in my wallet just in case, like I used to do with my Motorola Milestone. The battery isnt very big.
Both have the same resolution and qhd.
The ROM support on the Atrix is lacking, and it looks very populated on the Sensation.
My girlfriend has the Desire which I have ROM'ed for her and its ROM support is very active and up to date for a phone of that age - I can expect the same for the Sensation?
Anything about the Atrix that is worth keeping over the Sensation?
Anything about the Sensation that should warrant the trade to it?
Thanks guys
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If i were you i'd look to swap for the sensation XE not the sensation as i believe the atrix to be better than the normal sensation
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OMG totally trade for the sensation I heard the next ROM will support quad core.
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?? Wtf?
Notorious544d said:
Very interesting question.
Here's how I weigh everything up.
Atrix:
- Faster processor (despite being 1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz)
- Better GPU (more effecient, less heat and THD games)
- Much brighter display
- More RAM
- Much better battery
- Better Touchscreen (Sensation has issues)
- No death grip issues
- Webtop and fingerprint scanner
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- Better build quality
- Sharper display (RGB stripe vs PenTile)
- Brand recognition
- Better community
- Much better camera
So it's really up to you with what you prioritize.
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I wouldn't say that the Geforce ULP is betfer than the Adreno 220 GPU. Just look at the benchmark results on this page: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17 (don't forget the qHD resolution on all Adreno 220 phones either). Also the processor of the Atrix is not faster; it handles flash better because of software reasons, but that 0,2GHz difference is visible in Linpack, so I guess custom ROMs would unleash that power with software optimizations. Also something you left out is the lack of NEON support in the Atrix (no .mkv playback or high profile h.264).
I don't want to say that the Atrix is not a great phone - I had it for a while, but then sold it for an SGSII (great decision) - but the Sensation is just better imo.
I'm wondering is it actually better than the og Evo?
8mp vs 5 MP camera
1ghz vs 1.2 ghz processeor
Kickstand vs no kickstand (I know not really a big deal)
4.3 in screen vs 4 in screen
Battery...to be continued
Massive dev support vs ??
Domestic radio vs world phone**
(My favorite improvement)
What u think? Is it even better than the 3D? Does the lack of dual core really make much of a difference
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I'll let you know on Monday
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I'll let you know on Monday
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Haha good looking
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for me the absence dual core really makes a difference.
rdia am grateful to for giving me this forum stated he is very good and has lots of variety.
Seems like a decent offering with a solid price point for those not wanting some cutting edge specs. But I don't know if I'd go from a 4G to this, especially locking in for 2 years.
In hindsight I prediro a specification point.
rruss said:
I'm wondering is it actually better than the og Evo?
8mp vs 5 MP camera
1ghz vs 1.2 ghz processeor
Kickstand vs no kickstand (I know not really a big deal)
4.3 in screen vs 4 in screen
Battery...to be continued
Massive dev support vs ??
Domestic radio vs world phone**
(My favorite improvement)
What u think? Is it even better than the 3D? Does the lack of dual core really make much of a difference
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i got my evo 4g on release day, had it for about 9 months and then bought a shift. i then switched to us cellular 3 weeks ago, had a motorola electrify (photon) and swapped it for the hero-s which is the same as the evo design minus the wimax radio and world capabilities. figured i'd post my thoughts on it here since there's no forum for the hero-s.
the camera is absolutely fantastic. i'm assuming the design will have the same one. it's got a f2.2 lens, so it's amazing in low light. i use my camera a LOT and that was a big downside to the electrify for me.
the cpu is a 2nd generation snapdragon, so it's more than just a 200mhz speed bump. it's quite a bit faster. it also has an adreno 205 vs. the 200 as the gpu, which is a significant upgrade. i honestly don't notice much of a difference between my hero-s and the electrify i had. i don't play many cpu/ gpu intensive games, but it's run everything i've thrown at it with ease. it's not a top of the line multi-core speed demon, but i really don't need that. it's fast, everything runs smooth, and that's all i need/ want.
no kickstand, but not really needed. the 4" qhd screen is probably 90% of the reason i went with this phone. the screen looks great, i really like the higher resolution, and it's just so much easier for me to hold. i actually have pretty big hands, but the evo 4g and electrify are just awkward for me to hold. i sold my evo 4g and got a shift because of this, and traded my electrify for the hero-s for the same reason. this should be a great choice for people who don't want a bigger screen.
battery life seems decent. i can make it through the day with moderate use. if i'm driving i'll plug it in if i'm using nav/ maps, but overall it's ok. probably a bit better than my shift and it seems better than my evo 4g from what i can remember of it.
as for massive dev support... oh god i hope there's some action with this phone on sprint, there's not much going on with it on the USC side (at least not yet). i'd think it'll get rooted/ s-off somewhat quickly, but who knows. this thing would scream with cm7 on it, and i'm thinking it'll run ICS just fine.
there's no world phone capabilities on my hero-s, so i can't comment on that. it seems like that would be a very nice feature for people who need it though.
overall, i love this thing. it's very thin, i love the aluminium unibody, the button placement is great, it's very zippy, the screen resolution and size are perfect for me, and the camera is fantastic. i never thought i'd say this, but i actually kind of *like* sense 3.0 too. i think it's a great phone if you don't need the latest and greatest, and if you want a screen that's between 3.5" and 4.3", this might be what you're looking for. hope this helps, and if anyone has any questions about the phone i'll answer if i can!
if i could break my evo and get this as a replacement that would be nice...
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if i could break my evo and get this as a replacement that would be nice...
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You may be able to since the evo has been discontinued idk if this means anything but a couple years ago I broke my sidekick and called to get it replaced with T-Mobile but they said it is discontinued so they gave me a g1 of course that was when it first came out but like I said that was tmobile who knows what sprint will do
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if i could break my evo and get this as a replacement that would be nice...
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Yeah, I wouldn't complain.
viva la MIUI
It has the smaller 45nm scorpion core which generates less heat and uses less power, so that's a plus, and I believe clock for clock the Scorpion core is faster than the original Snapdragon 65nm core. Then there's the Adreno 205 as far as visually demanding apps goes.
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i got my evo 4g on release day, had it for about 9 months and then bought a shift. i then switched to us cellular 3 weeks ago, had a motorola electrify (photon) and swapped it for the hero-s which is the same as the evo design minus the wimax radio and world capabilities. figured i'd post my thoughts on it here since there's no forum for the hero-s.
the camera is absolutely fantastic. i'm assuming the design will have the same one. it's got a f2.2 lens, so it's amazing in low light. i use my camera a LOT and that was a big downside to the electrify for me.
the cpu is a 2nd generation snapdragon, so it's more than just a 200mhz speed bump. it's quite a bit faster. it also has an adreno 205 vs. the 200 as the gpu, which is a significant upgrade. i honestly don't notice much of a difference between my hero-s and the electrify i had. i don't play many cpu/ gpu intensive games, but it's run everything i've thrown at it with ease. it's not a top of the line multi-core speed demon, but i really don't need that. it's fast, everything runs smooth, and that's all i need/ want.
no kickstand, but not really needed. the 4" qhd screen is probably 90% of the reason i went with this phone. the screen looks great, i really like the higher resolution, and it's just so much easier for me to hold. i actually have pretty big hands, but the evo 4g and electrify are just awkward for me to hold. i sold my evo 4g and got a shift because of this, and traded my electrify for the hero-s for the same reason. this should be a great choice for people who don't want a bigger screen.
battery life seems decent. i can make it through the day with moderate use. if i'm driving i'll plug it in if i'm using nav/ maps, but overall it's ok. probably a bit better than my shift and it seems better than my evo 4g from what i can remember of it.
as for massive dev support... oh god i hope there's some action with this phone on sprint, there's not much going on with it on the USC side (at least not yet). i'd think it'll get rooted/ s-off somewhat quickly, but who knows. this thing would scream with cm7 on it, and i'm thinking it'll run ICS just fine.
there's no world phone capabilities on my hero-s, so i can't comment on that. it seems like that would be a very nice feature for people who need it though.
overall, i love this thing. it's very thin, i love the aluminium unibody, the button placement is great, it's very zippy, the screen resolution and size are perfect for me, and the camera is fantastic. i never thought i'd say this, but i actually kind of *like* sense 3.0 too. i think it's a great phone if you don't need the latest and greatest, and if you want a screen that's between 3.5" and 4.3", this might be what you're looking for. hope this helps, and if anyone has any questions about the phone i'll answer if i can!
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After reading that, I'm even more excited for Sunday!
pretty sure you'll love it- it's a damned nice little phone. my wife's swapping out her HTC merge (USCC's version of the evo shift) for a hero-s today since she liked mine so much and kept stealing it from me!
i made a mistake in my previous post, the hero-s *does* have GSM/ global roaming capabilities, so it really is very close to the evo design 4g then. it just doesn't have the wimax radio... so i'm hoping hoping hoping that any roms and root methods for the design will also work on the hero-s (like the photon stuff works on the electrify on USCC).
HTC Evo Design longer than Hero S??
Just read dimensions on Evo design 4g - and it seems it is longer (4.8 vs 4.5 inches) than the Hero S? Anyone have idea why as it looks like the same phone?
Is this phone worth a 2-year contract or would I be better off adding $50 or so dollars and buying a used Evo while I wait for the Prime?
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Is this phone worth a 2-year contract or would I be better off adding $50 or so dollars and buying a used Evo while I wait for the Prime?
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USed evo OR just wait for the prime
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Just read dimensions on Evo design 4g - and it seems it is longer (4.8 vs 4.5 inches) than the Hero S? Anyone have idea why as it looks like the same phone?
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Its the qhd screen I'm sure. The evo 3d is longer but less wide then the evo
Having trouble with AOSP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295702
both evo design 4g and hero s have qhd screens. so why different reported dimensions?
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both evo design 4g and hero s have qhd screens. so why different reported dimensions?
I dunno, but I got it this afternoon and love it.. now I'll patiently wait for root...
All ima say is that I love me evo aka evie... The wide screen is just great for my fingers and the quality of the screen is awesome while I watch scrubs on netflix... Its a great phone but my only problem is that its old and im gonna want some dual-core lovin...
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