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Apps crashing a lot after formatting and partitioning SD Card

I've been running Modaco ROMs a while, running the latest 2.7. all have been running fine.
I decided to partition my 16GB SD Card so cyanogen could do apps2sd properly. So the partitions are 500MB EXT3, 32MB Swap and the rest FAT32.
Thing is, when I did the partitions it obviously formatted the SD Card. My phone is running faster than ever after doing apps2sd, but I'm now now having some problems with apps crashing a lot. Market is unable to connect, and a few other apps are crashing randomly (Album Art Grabber, Chomp SMS). These apps have been 100% stable before i decided to do the format...
So is there some sort of folder or file structure that android is expected on the sdcard? after formatting and taking some pictures, downloading some stuff via browser and syncing my mp3's, i see:
.footprints
albumthumbs
data
DCIM
doubleTwistRS
download
Images
Music
Playlists
rosie_scroll
tmp
WMPInfo (file)
Just wondering if formatting the SD Card may have affected some apps stability somehow? or maybe it's something else completely...
Edit:
The error the Market is giving me:
A server error has occured.
Retry or cancel and return to
the previous screen
I have found some info that might explain the problems I'm having . I used app TA Utility to move all caches to SD, which included Browser, Market and other stuff. It won't let me move the caches back to Internal Memory, and the caches that it had previously moved are now gone.
Edit Edit:
Yep, I've screwed something... Also Maps and Street View are crashing.
Arghh, the pursuit of performance is a pain in the #$%@

ended up having to do a factory reset and format and repartition the SD Card... few hours of my life wasted

Internal memory filling up fast after A2SD

After I enabled Darktremor Apps2SD, my internal memory went from 157 to about 89. Sweet. Unfortunately, I am seeing a marked increase in internal memory used over the past week or so. I am not near any critical threshold, but I am concerned with its rate of growth. Is there any way to "clean it out" besides using CacheMate, which I believe only clears app cache that is in the app file (correct me if I'm wrong).
I have not installed more than 3 apps since the A2SD, and believe all of them are "move to SD" enabled. I verified their location using Astro. I do use web browsers, flip between Dolphin and Opera - still deciding on which I want to keep. I also use Tasker for many things, but I'm far from being a power user. Tasker is on my SD, though the dev claims it won't move to SD. (I'd like to put it back to internal because it seems a little sluggish)
So how do I "clean up" my internal memory? Is it all just factory apps and Dalvik? Can I wipe Dalvik and reboot and find less internal memory used?

duckredbeard said:
After I enabled Darktremor Apps2SD, my internal memory went from 157 to about 89. Sweet. Unfortunately, I am seeing a marked increase in internal memory used over the past week or so. I am not near any critical threshold, but I am concerned with its rate of growth. Is there any way to "clean it out" besides using CacheMate, which I believe only clears app cache that is in the app file (correct me if I'm wrong).
I have not installed more than 3 apps since the A2SD, and believe all of them are "move to SD" enabled. I verified their location using Astro. I do use web browsers, flip between Dolphin and Opera - still deciding on which I want to keep. I also use Tasker for many things, but I'm far from being a power user. Tasker is on my SD, though the dev claims it won't move to SD. (I'd like to put it back to internal because it seems a little sluggish)
So how do I "clean up" my internal memory? Is it all just factory apps and Dalvik? Can I wipe Dalvik and reboot and find less internal memory used?
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Yes, that's exactly what I do whenever I feel the internal memory needs to be cleaned up, or if I uninstall several apps - just to make myself feel like I'm taking good care of my phone - wipe Dalvik and reg caches through recovery, reboot, and voila. It takes a little longer for the phone to boot as it is recreating the cache for the apps you still use but my phone is still running like a champ so I'm happy.

Apps on SD (not ext) are still potentially taking up quite a lot of space, so I personally move stuff that installs to SD to "internal" on my phone, that way it goes to ext, including its data.
Also, the browser seems to cache a lot of data, not just browser cache, but some other stuff, but it's more of an issue with 2.2... but if your Aria is 2.2, try killing the Browser from the Applications list or a task killer and see what happens to /data
Failing that if you're rooted, go look yourself and see what's taking space. For me all of my used space is accounted for in dalvik-cache. If I install many more apps, I'll have to move dalvik to sd.

If your running Froyo then you should look up TA Utility and Move2SD.
TA utility moves your cache to your SD card and Move2SD lets you Move all your apps to the SD card. You got to be Rooted to use these app but I love the space I got now on my phone.

khaytsus said:
Apps on SD (not ext) are still potentially taking up quite a lot of space, so I personally move stuff that installs to SD to "internal" on my phone, that way it goes to ext, including its data.
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hang on a second ... you say that you have an ext partition on your SD card and all apps are installed there when you select "internal" installation??

That's what a2sd does. It moves the internal applications (and optionally the dalvik cache) to a partition on your SD card. This frees up the internal memory on your phone.

Ok, that I know. I was just confused with your description.
I use A2SD as well but it does not need an ext3 partition. It goes straight to my fat23 SD card.

Then you're not using DT's A2SD which is what this thread is about.

Bought and used App2SDPro; Still need more apps to go to SD.

I am using a lot of room on my main storage and only have 50MB of storage left on the ROM.
I've used what is mentioned in the title, but I still have about 120 apps that I'd like on the SD. I actually counted and have 140 in total, lol.
How would I go about achieving this?
(Help out a guy who is addicted to apps/games ^>^)

Tribulattifather said:
I am using a lot of room on my main storage and only have 50MB of storage left on the ROM.
I've used what is mentioned in the title, but I still have about 120 apps that I'd like on the SD. I actually counted and have 140 in total, lol.
How would I go about achieving this?
(Help out a guy who is addicted to apps/games ^>^)
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back up your app and partition your SD card to ext2/3/4 to use app2sd+

Use a modded CWM Flash.cfg , but be careful, setting it too low won't allow your rom to install, also what the guy above me said.

I always used "Spare Parts" (not the one in the Marketplace) which allows you to manually choose which folder new apps will be installed to.
Unfortunately, this only works for newly installed apps, so you'll have to delete the ones you have and reinstall.
I don't use Spare Parts anymore, since I am using dandiest's new init that puts the data directory on the SD card. I made a 2GB ext4 partition on my SD card and Android boots from there, through NAND

APPS2SD and LINK2SD question.

Hello again, I need clarification with this subject...
I had a difficult time in rooting my android, thinking I failed. so for many times I rooted, installed xrecovery, then most importantly apps2sd. but I don't think it works, then I found all about Links2sd. I installed it, and each time after installing I always select the "link2sd" option, and I check the include davlik cache, but my phone memory is continually decreasing... is this normal or not? could there be a conflict with apps2sd and link2sd since I don't know if I have deleted apps2sd. sorry I'm an android newbie. Thanks..

Well... if you had app2sd link2sd would monit about it and asked you to uninstall it first.
If you don't know if your phone is rooted, look through apps - if you have a superuser app - you're rooted
As for link2sd working or not: connect your phone to the computer and open minitool partition wizard home. It will see your ext2 partition along with free and occupied space. If there are any apps on ext2 partition of your SD card - apps are installing there and the slight decrease of space is due to the existing shortcut files. Because you have created ext2 partition, haven't you?...

I did what you said and yes I found files on the other partition I created. but problem is, some files still go to the phone memory, for example the game app "ninjump" has 15mb installed on the phone memory while on links2sd it shows that it is linked to the sd card.
also, I tried removing the memory card, and when I turned on my x8 the programs were missing, so I suppose links2sd is working.
only problem is now is that some chunks are still installed to the phone memory. is there a way of totally redirecting everything to the sd card?

link2sd: Leave data files in Internal Memory, and you can choose the apps to SD
app2sd: Copy all data from the application to the SD, It's all automatic

nowonanx8 said:
I did what you said and yes I found files on the other partition I created. but problem is, some files still go to the phone memory, for example the game app "ninjump" has 15mb installed on the phone memory while on links2sd it shows that it is linked to the sd card.
also, I tried removing the memory card, and when I turned on my x8 the programs were missing, so I suppose links2sd is working.
only problem is now is that some chunks are still installed to the phone memory. is there a way of totally redirecting everything to the sd card?
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Ok, here's the deal - how many times did you install ninjump in the past? If more then once, and meanwhile you moved it to or from ext2 it might have (though the probability is very slight) that you have two apps - one in internal storage and one in ext2 storage.
So, navigate into ext2 partition (it's a folder in root directory - sdext or so) and look for this app. It might be hard, as names of linked apps are somewhat messed up, but there should be icons If there is no app on ext2, try switching it back to internal mode and then onto ext2 again - perhaps without linking dalvik cache.
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link2sd: Leave data files in Internal Memory, and you can choose the apps to SD
app2sd: Copy all data from the application to the SD, It's all automatic
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Thank you, that was sooooo relevant!

APP2SD
I having problem with the app2sd too..i dunno whether it works...This is what i had done..I had busybox, superuser, and xrecovery installed and rooted. But when come to partitioning the sd card, i partitioned it into 3 parts : FAt, ext2 and ext3...after that i installed the update.zip and custom zip of app2sd...the phone starts not recognizing the sd partition...anyone can help here??

I use titanium backup to see app2sd works or not. if a2sd decrease, so it work.
if internal still decrease, I guess some file or even some app just can't work with app2sd.
one question too, how or can I move games data from fat sdcard to ext2 partition? like gameloft data. I need my fat space for other file

Graveir said:
Ok, here's the deal - how many times did you install ninjump in the past? If more then once, and meanwhile you moved it to or from ext2 it might have (though the probability is very slight) that you have two apps - one in internal storage and one in ext2 storage.
So, navigate into ext2 partition (it's a folder in root directory - sdext or so) and look for this app. It might be hard, as names of linked apps are somewhat messed up, but there should be icons If there is no app on ext2, try switching it back to internal mode and then onto ext2 again - perhaps without linking dalvik cache.
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I tried navigating to the ext2 partition using minitool partition wizard, and I indeed saw files that I have installed there. so do you mean that apps2sd is better than links2sd? thanks..

Well... I'm not saying anything is better, though I used both solutions in three different ways.
For stock SE ROM link2sd is better, since you only need to partition SD card into primary fat32 and primary ext2 - nothing more. Then you install an app and all works fine.
With custom ROM you cannot use link2sd, since they all have app2sd hack preinstalled (well, you can always modify files, but what for?). Problem occurs when you have this hack AND ext2 partition. The hack then moves automatically all your apps to ext2 memory along with dalvik cache if you install them in internal storage. If you install in external storage, the app goes to fat32 secure folder and dalvik cache remains in ext2. If you don't have any ext on custom ROM, dalvik cache is always in internal storage, while you can move any non-system app onto fat32 sd card.
The ext2 solution in custom ROMs may seem convinient, but for me it was not. When you use apps like phone locator, they should always dwell in internal memory, since SD card can be easily taken out, while deleting such an app from a remotely locked down phone would require flashing, otherwise the device is useless for the thief

Well actually both app2sd and link2sd are typically similliar. I've tried app2sd before and it still leave some files in internal memory. So will link2sd. But link2sd is much more easier to use because once your phone is rooted you just need to install it on your phone without going through the adb shell thing. Easy for newbie for sure. But you just have to manually link new installed applications and games. That's what differ link2sd with app2sd. Now I'm using link2sd. If you want to make sure, why don't you try those froyo phone. Try to use the app2sd stuff on those phone. They still install some applications on their internal as well although they have built in app2sd.
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a2sd issues

I am using the Synergy RC1 rom . It comes with a2sd already built in. I have an 1024mb ext3 partition setup on my SD card. My SD card is a class 8 and I have used with success on other roms that supported a2sd. I repartitioned the card and cleared all caches multiple times before flashing the ROM. When I use Quick System Info it shows me how much space I have left on my ext3 partition so I know it is there and readable. The davlik cache is stored on the SD card by default with this particular iteration of a2sd (it is based off of CyanogenMod)
The problem that within a few hours of flashing the rom and installing a couple of apps (I have installed different apps each time so it is not a particular app that cause this) all of a sudden my internal storage starts dropping on its own. No more apps were installed, but every couple of minutes when I check there is less and less internal storage available. The memory drops even when the phone is not in use. I was doing some stuff on my phone and when I put it down it had 260mb free. I pick it up 10 minutes later and it is down to 118mb. I do not understand why this is happening. If anyone has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated.

Earlier today on the Synergy thread it was said that using a 2 gig EXT3 should work better, than the 1 gig most of are used to using. I know I'm going to reformat mine tomorrow and repartition it to see if I can get this going.
Worked perfectly on MikG, but I guess Synergy just puts more into internal memory.
Also, you did use the Synergy Updater to flash A2SD, right?? Because flashing the DT Zip file could cause problems, I hear....

Thanks for the reply.
I still had space in my ext3 partition. About 640mb I believe. I will reformat and reflash to see if a 2gig partition will help. I did not download and install the DT a2sd mod. I have used the built in a2sd in myn's roms for a while without issue. Should I use DT's instead?

Nope. seems that in Synergy, A2SD is not built in, but in the Synergy updater, you can flash a version that was created FOR synergy. Now, when you do this, it doesn't format your card, it only assigns the partitions.
On MikG, with DT A2SD built in, using my 64MB Swap and 1 gig EXT 3, I'd have over 300MB free internal storage.
With Synergy, same partitions, using the flashable A2SD, I only have 124MB free internal, my apps ARE on the SD Card, but when I try to enable swap (Terminal SU, A2SD Reswap) it fails to start Swap.
I think it was DougJamal that told me to try and reset my EXT to 2 gigs

I see. I was under the impression from the OP that a2sd was built in. I saw my ext3 partition being used as I installed apps. Everything was working I believe. When I first flashed the rom I had 386mb of free internal storage.

alkataz said:
see if a 2gig partition will help. I did not download and install the DT a2sd mod. Should I use DT's instead?
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DT's works good for me. running MIUI.1.6.24

Yes, DT's is great, but apparently, there's a script that conflicts with Synergy, so I was told to use the flashable in he Synergy Updater.
It's DT, but it's got a mod that works better with the ROM, and believe me, that was a very layman's way to describe it

I was out so I could not repartition and reinstall the rom using the 2 gig partition, but I had repartitioned and reinstalled just before I left my last response and it has happened again. I looked at my phone a couple hours aftr install and internal storage went from 354mb to 177mb. I looked at it 10 minutes later and it was down to 54mb. By the time I reached home I was getting a low memory warning and 511kb free. This is weird.

I did a full wipe and everything. I have never experienced this on any ROM and I have used a2sd on almost all of them. I have read that there was a issue with the GB release updates that caused the phone to incorrectly report free internal storage space. Maybe this is the cause of this, but I have reinstalled the ROM like 3 times and redownloaded the ROM each time.

alkataz said:
I did a full wipe and everything. I have never experienced this on any ROM and I have used a2sd on almost all of them. I have read that there was a issue with the GB release updates that caused the phone to incorrectly report free internal storage space. Maybe this is the cause of this, but I have reinstalled the ROM like 3 times and redownloaded the ROM each time.
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Yeah, I ran /system/bin/ a2sd reinstall which re processed all my apps but when I ran a2sd reswap, it failed again and my memory is wicked low.
I DO still need to reformat and redo my ext3 partition, but I'm not feeling too confident.