After I enabled Darktremor Apps2SD, my internal memory went from 157 to about 89. Sweet. Unfortunately, I am seeing a marked increase in internal memory used over the past week or so. I am not near any critical threshold, but I am concerned with its rate of growth. Is there any way to "clean it out" besides using CacheMate, which I believe only clears app cache that is in the app file (correct me if I'm wrong).
I have not installed more than 3 apps since the A2SD, and believe all of them are "move to SD" enabled. I verified their location using Astro. I do use web browsers, flip between Dolphin and Opera - still deciding on which I want to keep. I also use Tasker for many things, but I'm far from being a power user. Tasker is on my SD, though the dev claims it won't move to SD. (I'd like to put it back to internal because it seems a little sluggish)
So how do I "clean up" my internal memory? Is it all just factory apps and Dalvik? Can I wipe Dalvik and reboot and find less internal memory used?
duckredbeard said:
After I enabled Darktremor Apps2SD, my internal memory went from 157 to about 89. Sweet. Unfortunately, I am seeing a marked increase in internal memory used over the past week or so. I am not near any critical threshold, but I am concerned with its rate of growth. Is there any way to "clean it out" besides using CacheMate, which I believe only clears app cache that is in the app file (correct me if I'm wrong).
I have not installed more than 3 apps since the A2SD, and believe all of them are "move to SD" enabled. I verified their location using Astro. I do use web browsers, flip between Dolphin and Opera - still deciding on which I want to keep. I also use Tasker for many things, but I'm far from being a power user. Tasker is on my SD, though the dev claims it won't move to SD. (I'd like to put it back to internal because it seems a little sluggish)
So how do I "clean up" my internal memory? Is it all just factory apps and Dalvik? Can I wipe Dalvik and reboot and find less internal memory used?
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Yes, that's exactly what I do whenever I feel the internal memory needs to be cleaned up, or if I uninstall several apps - just to make myself feel like I'm taking good care of my phone - wipe Dalvik and reg caches through recovery, reboot, and voila. It takes a little longer for the phone to boot as it is recreating the cache for the apps you still use but my phone is still running like a champ so I'm happy.
Apps on SD (not ext) are still potentially taking up quite a lot of space, so I personally move stuff that installs to SD to "internal" on my phone, that way it goes to ext, including its data.
Also, the browser seems to cache a lot of data, not just browser cache, but some other stuff, but it's more of an issue with 2.2... but if your Aria is 2.2, try killing the Browser from the Applications list or a task killer and see what happens to /data
Failing that if you're rooted, go look yourself and see what's taking space. For me all of my used space is accounted for in dalvik-cache. If I install many more apps, I'll have to move dalvik to sd.
If your running Froyo then you should look up TA Utility and Move2SD.
TA utility moves your cache to your SD card and Move2SD lets you Move all your apps to the SD card. You got to be Rooted to use these app but I love the space I got now on my phone.
khaytsus said:
Apps on SD (not ext) are still potentially taking up quite a lot of space, so I personally move stuff that installs to SD to "internal" on my phone, that way it goes to ext, including its data.
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hang on a second ... you say that you have an ext partition on your SD card and all apps are installed there when you select "internal" installation??
That's what a2sd does. It moves the internal applications (and optionally the dalvik cache) to a partition on your SD card. This frees up the internal memory on your phone.
Ok, that I know. I was just confused with your description.
I use A2SD as well but it does not need an ext3 partition. It goes straight to my fat23 SD card.
Then you're not using DT's A2SD which is what this thread is about.
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I'm using the latest Cyanogen and am getting low on space messages in my toolbar, what's up with that?
I'm 100% Apps2SD so I shouldn't be low on space, what can I do to resolve it?
I checked my bigger applications to see if I could clear their cache to no avail.
My phone did this when I had partitioned my SD card wrong so perhaps that's your problem?
That would be weird as I haven't messed with my SD card in months though.
go into settings> sd card and phone storage> Sd Card secondary and see how much space it says is available.
Are you using StreamFurious?
I was in exactly the same spot you are.
Turns out the last StreamFurious update that I installed was eating up all the onboard cache for apps, and it didn't have a "clear cache" option when looking in the "Manage applications" setting.
I eventually performed a Nandroid backup and wiped the device, then reinstalled all apps. This was a pain, but worked.
Now I'm using rCherryPlayer until the StreamFurious devs straighten matters out.
The most that I've ever used up was 36mb. I cleared the cache for my Browser and Market and it brought me back down to 17mb.
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go into settings> sd card and phone storage> Sd Card secondary and see how much space it says is available.
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Available space
sd card: 4.91gb
secondary sd card: 186mb
internal phone: 8.07mb
StaggerLee123 said:
Are you using StreamFurious?
I was in exactly the same spot you are.
Turns out the last StreamFurious update that I installed was eating up all the onboard cache for apps, and it didn't have a "clear cache" option when looking in the "Manage applications" setting.
I eventually performed a Nandroid backup and wiped the device, then reinstalled all apps. This was a pain, but worked.
Now I'm using rCherryPlayer until the StreamFurious devs straighten matters out.
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StreamFurious was indeed installed but I never used it, the problem seems to have started around the time that I installed it so I believe that would explain the problem I was having.
I uninstalled it but I'm still getting the error.
Does anybody know what else I can do?
Try clearing your cache. Even with Apps2SD many apps (Maps, Gmail, etc) still save cache to your internal memory. At least that solved my memory problem anyway.
I use ClearMe but you can do it manually as well.
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.help_to-clearme-jmwz.aspx
Also try TA utility from the market, moves all major cache to your sd. do a search in the market for cache and you will find it. For some reason searching the apps name doesn't pull it up. Anyways I have been using this for month and don't even go over 18 mb used.
Installed CacheMate and TA Utility and have 8.16 now. Still have the low space icon
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Installed CacheMate and TA Utility and have 8.16 now. Still have the low space icon
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Well you have the right tools now... But hate to say it but your going to have to do a wipe. Then run the two apps and all should be good. Also watch the apps you download because some take up alot of space on your internal and you can't clear it without a wipe. Good luck buddy and happy Thanksgiving
I've recently noticed that my phone internal memory getting low (20MB) even though I had partition-ed my memory card to get Apps2SD.
I have a 8-GB card and the setting is (~512 MB EXT3, ~30MB linux-swap) and the rest is FAT32.
have a look at the attachments to analize the the problem.
Did I do something wrong? or this is normal !
regards,
nayyak
It's normal. Data caches fill over time and take up that internal memory. You can regain much of it back by opening up your app manager and clearing the caches of any app that allows, especially things like browsers, gmail, market, etc.
That'll free a bunch up. I highly recommend an app called CacheMate - it does all that with the push of a single button. You can also boot to recovery and clear your Dalvik cache.
Also, if you're rooted and install a bunch or different ROMs without wiping, this will happen.
Thanx for the response
but I've already tried wiping the cache folder and it didn't help coz it gets filled up immediately.
Hi, can anyone help me? my internal memory is at about 20MB and i already moved my apps to my sd card, what can i do?
Please......
Try going into clockwork and wiping your cache.
Now I Have 26.5MB What Else can i do??
Clear cache on your browser um...dunno what else if I think of anything else I'll reply back
Also clear cache on market
wow i just got it to 40MB by deleting some data from facebook and some other apps. any other tips?
Other than deleting apps that's about it. You could move all your ringtones to the sd card. Since they're located on /system that should free up a little room, not much, but some.
EDIT: get Cache Cleaner from the market, it makes clearing all your caches a one click process.
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if you have the newest version of google maps, it stores a cache of maps on your phone so that you can access them offline/offnetwork. you can clear this and it may give you upwards of 40 mb back depending on maps usage.
If you're rooted, install Dark Tremor's Apps2SD - and then move all your apps back to internal memory. Why? Because it will move all your apps (except system apps) to an EXTn partition on your SD card, which the phone thinks is internal memory. Also, you can move your Dalvik cache to your SD card. I went from 20% free internal memory to 70% free almost instantly this way.
Can you do something like this on rooted phone??
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If you're rooted, install Dark Tremor's Apps2SD - and then move all your apps back to internal memory. Why? Because it will move all your apps (except system apps) to an EXTn partition on your SD card, which the phone thinks is internal memory. Also, you can move your Dalvik cache to your SD card. I went from 20% free internal memory to 70% free almost instantly this way.
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Can you do something like this on rooted phone??
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You just needed to look at the posting previous to yours to see the answer.
Search is not working on either IE or FF for me right now, so I'm starting a new thread. Sorry about it, as i'm sure this is a duplicate question. Know that I tried for awhile to search first.
I've got an Aria running Attn1's Liberated FR008 ROM. a2sd has been enabled. However, I've got almost no phone memory left. I've heard that even with a2sd, some of the app dalvik stuff is stored on the entirely insufficient internal phone storage, and I have recently downloaded a bunch more apps. I have used CacheCleaner NG, which did not alleviate the problem. I have also "cleaned up" the Dalvik Cache using Titanium Backup, which found nothing to clean.
I'm wondering if there's some sort of area on the internal phone memory I can clean myself using Astro or something, because it seems that with most of the bulk of app storage being on the SD card, and every app with options to store cache on the SD card doing so, I should have more room on the internal storage.
What do you guys think? Have any of you run into this problem and resolved it without just uninstalling a bunch of apps?
Great question. I've considered a complete clean install, just to regain some internal space.
I wish ****ing Facebook would add an option to cache to SD card - it's a total hog. Going to endure with the Aria until fall and see what's out on AT&T at that point.
I know app2sd from the market has worked for me in the past. I had a ton of apps on my aria and haven't had a space issue
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The solution for me was to move the Dalvik cache to the SD card.
DISCLAIMER: Some people report this causes problems, I guess. The information I'm providing explain what worked for me. Following my instructions might cause instability, brick your phone, destroy your house, or eat your second cousin. None of these things are my fault.
I guess when a2sd is installed, it does not by default move the Dalvik cache, which contains files needed for apps to run. The more apps you install, the more that gets installed in this Dalvik cache. Here's how to move the dalvik cache on your phone to the a2sd partition, assuming you've perused the above warnings.
Open Terminal Emulator.
type su and hit enter.
type a2sd cachesdreset and hit enter.
The phone will restart, and it will take a long time, because it's got to rebuild the dalvik cache. You can do it without wiping the dalvik cache by using the cachesd command instead of cachesdreset, but I've read that wiping the dalvik cache doesn't hurt, and can potentially solve some issues? YMMV. My phone took awhile to start up.
Once the phone starts up, you can open something like Titanium Backup, and you should notice that your phone has MUCH more internal memory available. My phone now has 89MB of internal memory available, out of the total 194MB.
Things seem to run a bit slower upon startup than they used to, but after a bit, everything smooths out. And I can install apps again, etc.
Hope this helps.
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What do you guys think? Have any of you run into this problem and resolved it without just uninstalling a bunch of apps?
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I think that I ran into this very recently. The following thread has some good info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770146 ... more specifically ... this page that is linked from that thread.
Hello again, I need clarification with this subject...
I had a difficult time in rooting my android, thinking I failed. so for many times I rooted, installed xrecovery, then most importantly apps2sd. but I don't think it works, then I found all about Links2sd. I installed it, and each time after installing I always select the "link2sd" option, and I check the include davlik cache, but my phone memory is continually decreasing... is this normal or not? could there be a conflict with apps2sd and link2sd since I don't know if I have deleted apps2sd. sorry I'm an android newbie. Thanks..
Well... if you had app2sd link2sd would monit about it and asked you to uninstall it first.
If you don't know if your phone is rooted, look through apps - if you have a superuser app - you're rooted
As for link2sd working or not: connect your phone to the computer and open minitool partition wizard home. It will see your ext2 partition along with free and occupied space. If there are any apps on ext2 partition of your SD card - apps are installing there and the slight decrease of space is due to the existing shortcut files. Because you have created ext2 partition, haven't you?...
I did what you said and yes I found files on the other partition I created. but problem is, some files still go to the phone memory, for example the game app "ninjump" has 15mb installed on the phone memory while on links2sd it shows that it is linked to the sd card.
also, I tried removing the memory card, and when I turned on my x8 the programs were missing, so I suppose links2sd is working.
only problem is now is that some chunks are still installed to the phone memory. is there a way of totally redirecting everything to the sd card?
link2sd: Leave data files in Internal Memory, and you can choose the apps to SD
app2sd: Copy all data from the application to the SD, It's all automatic
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I did what you said and yes I found files on the other partition I created. but problem is, some files still go to the phone memory, for example the game app "ninjump" has 15mb installed on the phone memory while on links2sd it shows that it is linked to the sd card.
also, I tried removing the memory card, and when I turned on my x8 the programs were missing, so I suppose links2sd is working.
only problem is now is that some chunks are still installed to the phone memory. is there a way of totally redirecting everything to the sd card?
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Ok, here's the deal - how many times did you install ninjump in the past? If more then once, and meanwhile you moved it to or from ext2 it might have (though the probability is very slight) that you have two apps - one in internal storage and one in ext2 storage.
So, navigate into ext2 partition (it's a folder in root directory - sdext or so) and look for this app. It might be hard, as names of linked apps are somewhat messed up, but there should be icons If there is no app on ext2, try switching it back to internal mode and then onto ext2 again - perhaps without linking dalvik cache.
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link2sd: Leave data files in Internal Memory, and you can choose the apps to SD
app2sd: Copy all data from the application to the SD, It's all automatic
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Thank you, that was sooooo relevant!
APP2SD
I having problem with the app2sd too..i dunno whether it works...This is what i had done..I had busybox, superuser, and xrecovery installed and rooted. But when come to partitioning the sd card, i partitioned it into 3 parts : FAt, ext2 and ext3...after that i installed the update.zip and custom zip of app2sd...the phone starts not recognizing the sd partition...anyone can help here??
I use titanium backup to see app2sd works or not. if a2sd decrease, so it work.
if internal still decrease, I guess some file or even some app just can't work with app2sd.
one question too, how or can I move games data from fat sdcard to ext2 partition? like gameloft data. I need my fat space for other file
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Ok, here's the deal - how many times did you install ninjump in the past? If more then once, and meanwhile you moved it to or from ext2 it might have (though the probability is very slight) that you have two apps - one in internal storage and one in ext2 storage.
So, navigate into ext2 partition (it's a folder in root directory - sdext or so) and look for this app. It might be hard, as names of linked apps are somewhat messed up, but there should be icons If there is no app on ext2, try switching it back to internal mode and then onto ext2 again - perhaps without linking dalvik cache.
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I tried navigating to the ext2 partition using minitool partition wizard, and I indeed saw files that I have installed there. so do you mean that apps2sd is better than links2sd? thanks..
Well... I'm not saying anything is better, though I used both solutions in three different ways.
For stock SE ROM link2sd is better, since you only need to partition SD card into primary fat32 and primary ext2 - nothing more. Then you install an app and all works fine.
With custom ROM you cannot use link2sd, since they all have app2sd hack preinstalled (well, you can always modify files, but what for?). Problem occurs when you have this hack AND ext2 partition. The hack then moves automatically all your apps to ext2 memory along with dalvik cache if you install them in internal storage. If you install in external storage, the app goes to fat32 secure folder and dalvik cache remains in ext2. If you don't have any ext on custom ROM, dalvik cache is always in internal storage, while you can move any non-system app onto fat32 sd card.
The ext2 solution in custom ROMs may seem convinient, but for me it was not. When you use apps like phone locator, they should always dwell in internal memory, since SD card can be easily taken out, while deleting such an app from a remotely locked down phone would require flashing, otherwise the device is useless for the thief
Well actually both app2sd and link2sd are typically similliar. I've tried app2sd before and it still leave some files in internal memory. So will link2sd. But link2sd is much more easier to use because once your phone is rooted you just need to install it on your phone without going through the adb shell thing. Easy for newbie for sure. But you just have to manually link new installed applications and games. That's what differ link2sd with app2sd. Now I'm using link2sd. If you want to make sure, why don't you try those froyo phone. Try to use the app2sd stuff on those phone. They still install some applications on their internal as well although they have built in app2sd.
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