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Is this normal? (screenshots inside)

I've recently noticed that my phone internal memory getting low (20MB) even though I had partition-ed my memory card to get Apps2SD.
I have a 8-GB card and the setting is (~512 MB EXT3, ~30MB linux-swap) and the rest is FAT32.
have a look at the attachments to analize the the problem.
Did I do something wrong? or this is normal !
regards,
nayyak

It's normal. Data caches fill over time and take up that internal memory. You can regain much of it back by opening up your app manager and clearing the caches of any app that allows, especially things like browsers, gmail, market, etc.
That'll free a bunch up. I highly recommend an app called CacheMate - it does all that with the push of a single button. You can also boot to recovery and clear your Dalvik cache.
Also, if you're rooted and install a bunch or different ROMs without wiping, this will happen.

Thanx for the response
but I've already tried wiping the cache folder and it didn't help coz it gets filled up immediately.

Internal memory filling up fast after A2SD

After I enabled Darktremor Apps2SD, my internal memory went from 157 to about 89. Sweet. Unfortunately, I am seeing a marked increase in internal memory used over the past week or so. I am not near any critical threshold, but I am concerned with its rate of growth. Is there any way to "clean it out" besides using CacheMate, which I believe only clears app cache that is in the app file (correct me if I'm wrong).
I have not installed more than 3 apps since the A2SD, and believe all of them are "move to SD" enabled. I verified their location using Astro. I do use web browsers, flip between Dolphin and Opera - still deciding on which I want to keep. I also use Tasker for many things, but I'm far from being a power user. Tasker is on my SD, though the dev claims it won't move to SD. (I'd like to put it back to internal because it seems a little sluggish)
So how do I "clean up" my internal memory? Is it all just factory apps and Dalvik? Can I wipe Dalvik and reboot and find less internal memory used?

duckredbeard said:
After I enabled Darktremor Apps2SD, my internal memory went from 157 to about 89. Sweet. Unfortunately, I am seeing a marked increase in internal memory used over the past week or so. I am not near any critical threshold, but I am concerned with its rate of growth. Is there any way to "clean it out" besides using CacheMate, which I believe only clears app cache that is in the app file (correct me if I'm wrong).
I have not installed more than 3 apps since the A2SD, and believe all of them are "move to SD" enabled. I verified their location using Astro. I do use web browsers, flip between Dolphin and Opera - still deciding on which I want to keep. I also use Tasker for many things, but I'm far from being a power user. Tasker is on my SD, though the dev claims it won't move to SD. (I'd like to put it back to internal because it seems a little sluggish)
So how do I "clean up" my internal memory? Is it all just factory apps and Dalvik? Can I wipe Dalvik and reboot and find less internal memory used?
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Yes, that's exactly what I do whenever I feel the internal memory needs to be cleaned up, or if I uninstall several apps - just to make myself feel like I'm taking good care of my phone - wipe Dalvik and reg caches through recovery, reboot, and voila. It takes a little longer for the phone to boot as it is recreating the cache for the apps you still use but my phone is still running like a champ so I'm happy.

Apps on SD (not ext) are still potentially taking up quite a lot of space, so I personally move stuff that installs to SD to "internal" on my phone, that way it goes to ext, including its data.
Also, the browser seems to cache a lot of data, not just browser cache, but some other stuff, but it's more of an issue with 2.2... but if your Aria is 2.2, try killing the Browser from the Applications list or a task killer and see what happens to /data
Failing that if you're rooted, go look yourself and see what's taking space. For me all of my used space is accounted for in dalvik-cache. If I install many more apps, I'll have to move dalvik to sd.

If your running Froyo then you should look up TA Utility and Move2SD.
TA utility moves your cache to your SD card and Move2SD lets you Move all your apps to the SD card. You got to be Rooted to use these app but I love the space I got now on my phone.

khaytsus said:
Apps on SD (not ext) are still potentially taking up quite a lot of space, so I personally move stuff that installs to SD to "internal" on my phone, that way it goes to ext, including its data.
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hang on a second ... you say that you have an ext partition on your SD card and all apps are installed there when you select "internal" installation??

That's what a2sd does. It moves the internal applications (and optionally the dalvik cache) to a partition on your SD card. This frees up the internal memory on your phone.

Ok, that I know. I was just confused with your description.
I use A2SD as well but it does not need an ext3 partition. It goes straight to my fat23 SD card.

Then you're not using DT's A2SD which is what this thread is about.

[Q] Internel memory keeps decreasing

I have not installed any apps to my phones internel memory. I use titanium to move all apps except for keyboad, live wallpapers, widgets to the phone sdcard. 2 days ago I had 213mb of internel memory, now I am at 103mb of internel mrmory and I have no idea why. I tried deleting dalvik cache (dont think there is a way to move dalvik to sdcard with stock rom/kernel) and it didnt change much. Does anyone have any ideas where the memory leak is or what apps that even though are installed to the sdcard may be using up internel memory? Thank you
Saw the Dalvik2Cache.zip and that didnt do much, then saw the Dalvik_Hack under page 3 of the same thread and that seems to have made a lot more internel memory, I will keep an eye out on it and see if this is just a temporary fix or maybe its a permanent fix. It may just have been all the dalvik cache taking up space but over 100mb in 2-3 days seems like a lot of cache.
Here is the thread I followed, post # 24 by FrAsErTaG with the "CONFIRMED WORKING: http://www.mediafire.com/?3yfj8t8ld5yjez9

jgregoryj1 said:
I have not installed any apps to my phones internel memory. I use titanium to move all apps except for keyboad, live wallpapers, widgets to the phone sdcard. 2 days ago I had 213mb of internel memory, now I am at 103mb of internel mrmory and I have no idea why. I tried deleting dalvik cache (dont think there is a way to move dalvik to sdcard with stock rom/kernel) and it didnt change much. Does anyone have any ideas where the memory leak is or what apps that even though are installed to the sdcard may be using up internel memory? Thank you
Saw the Dalvik2Cache.zip and that didnt do much, then saw the Dalvik_Hack under page 3 of the same thread and that seems to have made a lot more internel memory, I will keep an eye out on it and see if this is just a temporary fix or maybe its a permanent fix. It may just have been all the dalvik cache taking up space but over 100mb in 2-3 days seems like a lot of cache.
Here is the thread I followed, post # 24 by FrAsErTaG with the "CONFIRMED WORKING: http://www.mediafire.com/?3yfj8t8ld5yjez9
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It will most probably be the dalvik cache, .dex files can be anything up to 1-2mb+ for each app. IMO dalvik2cache is a bad idea, on the latest FW the /cache partition has been reduced to 100mb, fill that up and you will be unable to download from the market. You should try link2sd, it will work on any rooted phone with stock kernel. (as long as you make the 2nd partition fat.) And it will move the app, library and .dex files to your 2nd partition and it will mount the 2nd patition on boot so keyboards/widgets are unaffected. I have 350+ apps installed on my phone and thanks to link2sd i still have 235mb free and phone is fast as hell

Thats cool. My old phone I had the sdcard partitioned with an EXT3, I would love to do that with this phone but dont think its supported yet. I may be wrong but I have not found anything like that for the Verizon R800x. Do you know if there is a way to remove the dalvik2cache hack if I wanted to revert it back to internel memory?

jgregoryj1 said:
Thats cool. My old phone I had the sdcard partitioned with an EXT3, I would love to do that with this phone but dont think its supported yet. I may be wrong but I have not found anything like that for the Verizon R800x. Do you know if there is a way to remove the dalvik2cache hack if I wanted to revert it back to internel memory?
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It will work on any android as long as your rooted. You need to make the 2nd partition fat though not ext2/3/4 as fat has native support so no custom kernel is needed. It calls to install-recovey.sh not init.d too so you can use stock kernel To remove dalvik2cache, unzip the zip you flashed look at the files in the .zip and delete the corresponding ones on your device

Thank you, I will do that, look through the .zip and delete the files. I already downloaded and installed the Link2sd. I am all about getting more memory out of the pathetic 400mb SE put in place, don't know why the hell they didnt just give us at least 2gb. But whatever still love the phone even with the limitation. Anyway what I ws going to say was I all for gaining memory ut not ifi ts going to make my phone crash some time down the road.

(Help) Insufficient Storage Error!

I have 500MB left and whenever I'm trying to update/install apps from the Play Story it gives me this error!
I tried clearing the dalvik-cache which is like 450MB but it force closes the whole system and apps!
After rebooting... the dalvik-cache is still there! I'm guessing that it's rewritten itself...

I think dalvik cache rewrites itself after it's wipe
That's Why it takes a long time to boot after dalvik wipe
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA

allspark2020 said:
I think dalvik cache rewrites itself after it's wipe
That's Why it takes a long time to boot after dalvik wipe
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA
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The real problem is how can I fix the "Insufficient Storage" error??!

xMini said:
I have 500MB left....
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Where do you have only 500mb left? Meaning /data/media or /cache (not /dalvik-cache).
Try going into Setting>Apps> Gallery, Playstore, video player, music player and wiping the Cache there. Gallery is a cache hog, so is Browser and Playstore.
Once you get that cleaned out, you should be able to download something from the market. I suggest Cache Cleaner NG. It is a cache cleaner that you can set to run everyday, week, month. I have mine set to run every morning before I wake up so my tablet is fresh and clean and ready to use.

Woodrube said:
Where do you have only 500mb left? Meaning /data/media or /cache (not /dalvik-cache).
Try going into Setting>Apps> Gallery, Playstore, video player, music player and wiping the Cache there. Gallery is a cache hog, so is Browser and Playstore.
Once you get that cleaned out, you should be able to download something from the market. I suggest Cache Cleaner NG. It is a cache cleaner that you can set to run everyday, week, month. I have mine set to run every morning before I wake up so my tablet is fresh and clean and ready to use.
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I have 500MB left from 16GB (Internal Storage) and for some reason it's 300KB now!
I cleared all the cache from the recovery...

xMini said:
I have 500MB left from 16GB (Internal Storage) and for some reason it's 300KB now!
I cleared all the cache from the recovery...
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happened to me before. reflashed and it fixed. should have use root explorer to check which directory is used.

So now I have 400MB on the internal storage and I've cleared all the cache!
What should I do next?
The error is still there!
I can't even install apps to clean my system!

xMini said:
I cleared all the cache from the recovery...
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Clearing cache from recovery is not the same. Go into those apps and wipe them there.
Also, take look in /data/log and see if anything is in there. I just read about someone yesterday that had 11gb of useless entries in there. If there is anything in that file, just delete it (it isn't needed) and the set the permission to User-R and the rest blank and you would get those files anymore.
If all else fails, just delete something from your internal that you can replace later on from your PC (like some music or video) and that way you'll clear out some space to download a cleaner from the market.

Woodrube said:
Clearing cache from recovery is not the same. Go into those apps and wipe them there.
Also, take look in /data/log and see if anything is in there. I just read about someone yesterday that had 11gb of useless entries in there. If there is anything in that file, just delete it (it isn't needed) and the set the permission to User-R and the rest blank and you would get those files anymore.
If all else fails, just delete something from your internal that you can replace later on from your PC (like some music or video) and that way you'll clear out some space to download a cleaner from the market.
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Yeah... I checked all the apps and cache was deleted!
There's no "log" at all!
Also why would I need to delete something from my internal?
I deleted a lot from downloads...

Your internal and /data/media are the same thing. If you said that your internal is almost full and you are getting the error,....

Woodrube said:
Your internal and /data/media are the same thing. If you said that your internal is almost full and you are getting the error,....
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I know!
But I deleted a lot of stuff! and now I have 400MB!
400MB should be enough to install an 800KB app!

Just trying to troubleshoot here man. Use a file explorer and look around to see if anything sticks out.
Might be time to do a factory reset and clean house (as a last resort) unless someone else has any ideas.
Good luck.

You need to have at least 512MB on your internal memory to be able to instal more programs. There is no fix for that.
Sent from my Transformer TF101

goodoane said:
You need to have at least 512MB on your internal memory to be able to instal more programs. There is no fix for that.
Sent from my Transformer TF101
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This might be the answer...
I've deleted a lot of stuff and apps and now I have 1.2GB an I installed couple of apps successfully!

He is correct, 512 is the limit, you will also notice the system slows ALOT after this point, I like to use my MicroSD for alot of things for this reason.
Also glad I read the 'log' tip, I had a 600Mb log just sitting there. X.x

I get this insufficient space error when titanium backup runs a scheduled backup. I have 18gb free and when I manually do a backup it works like a charm. Odd behavior. Sorry, I don't have any suggestions; just wanted to let you know you are not alone.

Thing O Doom said:
He is correct, 512 is the limit, you will also notice the system slows ALOT after this point, I like to use my MicroSD for alot of things for this reason.
Also glad I read the 'log' tip, I had a 600Mb log just sitting there. X.x
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I do use a 16GB microSD BUT the problem is that I have 10GB of apps/games! -_-

Try Apps2SD or a similar app.
I know for sure that the huge amounts of resource files used by games like Shadowgun and GTAIII can be stored on the MicroSD, freeing alot.

haberda said:
I get this insufficient space error when titanium backup runs a scheduled backup. I have 18gb free and when I manually do a backup it works like a charm. Odd behavior.
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Probably /data is on the verge of running out of available inodes, do you have a lot of small files on it?

6.0.1 Storage Calculator Error?

Hey all, I have a strange issue, tried all the obvious solutions, cleared caches, data, haven't wiped dalvik yet but eh. Got a storage space almost full error the other day so I linked some unlinked apps to the SD card, cleared cached data, moved images and downloads to folders in SD card and deleted what I didn't need and voila, problem solved, I cleared like 3 GB. I even tapped "Other", clicked "Explore", sorted that by size and delete files from the biggest folder (RAR files in downloads).
Idk if the image uploaded but here's a breakdown of my internal storage as it is right now:
-5.83 GB Used of 9.47 GB
-Apps 5.79 GB
-Images 30.71 MB
-Videos 20.00 KB
-Audio 224 KB
-Other 548 MB
-Cached Data 68.16 MB
NOW if you add all that up you get roughly 6.45 GB, which leaves like 616 MB just floating around. When i went into other and saw those RAR files, they totaled up to like 500-something MB and when I deleted it I noticed it fell off of the "Total Used" counter, but remained in "Other" counter.
Is there a way to reset the "Other" counter? The space is there I THINK, just seeing it there is kinda annoying. Wat Do?

By formatting the internal storage maybe.
You won't lose apps, as those are kept on a different partition.
The only things you will lose are the files on the internal storage and maybe some app settings (for apps that store data there).
TWRP also stores its settings there, so next time it boots it will be like you just flashed the recovery.

GDReaper said:
By formatting the internal storage maybe.
You won't lose apps, as those are kept on a different partition.
The only things you will lose are the files on the internal storage and maybe some app settings (for apps that store data there).
TWRP also stores its settings there, so next time it boots it will be like you just flashed the recovery.
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will try that now, will I have issues with link2sd or have to reflash xposed, gapps or cm?

noozman7190 said:
will try that now, will I have issues with link2sd or have to reflash xposed, gapps or cm?
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nevermind, stupid question I'm tired, seems like a lot of trouble for something that is so strange and isn't really doing anything bad

noozman7190 said:
nevermind, stupid question I'm tired, seems like a lot of trouble for something that is so strange and isn't really doing anything bad
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I've never used link2sd.
But for the rest it's a big fat no.
Formatting the internal storage is exactly the same as formatting the microSD card.
I do recommend formatting it once in a while.
I usually do it at every ROM update.

GDReaper said:
I've never used link2sd.
But for the rest it's a big fat no.
Formatting the internal storage is exactly the same as formatting the microSD card.
I do recommend formatting it once in a while.
I usually do it at every ROM update.
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I'll do it tonight at work, I just cleared data from the unrar app I used for the rar files I had and that freed up about 100mb from the "Other" counter, didn't do anything for the total storage though

@GDReaper Wiping internal storage worked for me, even freed up more space than just the "Other". gr8 m8, I r8 8/8 Thank you!!!