Help me understand something here. I've had several phones that use Lithium battery technology (same as this Asus). I've had batteries that will no longer hold a charge and have had to replace them. So what is the point of spending $500 on a device that you can't replace the battery if it goes bad?
If it goes bad while under warranty, you have to send it in, and that is a big hassle. And if the battery goes bad out of warranty...do you just toss it in the trash? Or use it as an expensive paper weight?
I'm sure if you were technically inclined you could open your TF up and replace it yourself. People have been doing that with all the apple stuff.
Has anyone had the back off of one of these Asus tablets, and seen whether or not the battery can easily be replaced (if available) ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109928
This is the only thing I've seen with someone dissassembling the Transformer. Maybe he could help.
search. there is teardown info in several posts.
Every apple "i" product has a non user replaceable battery yet many people ( myself included) have replaced them.
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AT&T lemon-law'd my Tilt (3 qualified warranty repairs means a free upgrade to a Fuze!) and I've got two Kaiser batteries I won't be needing ever again. I'll trade 'em for anything anyone in the forum thinks is a fair deal. I know used batteries are a crapshoot, so I don't expect much, you can just have them for whatever everyone else thinks is fair.
The batteries:
1 - Stock Kaiser battery that came with the phone. DynaPack KAIS160 1350 mAh standard battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Got it in December 2007, still lasts a full day with Bluetooth on and very moderate internet use. I usually get a few hours of video with it, so it's still a good battery.
2 - Cameron Sino battery. CS-TP4550XL 1600 mAh standard sized battery. Will fit behind standard battery cover. Lasts a full day under same usage conditions, also good for a few hours of video. Bought in September 2008 for a business trip, used about 50% of the time the last few months switching with the other battery.
Also available for anyone who wants it, since I'm only sending AT&T the phone back:
Battery cover
A stylus or two
Anything in the original retail box (including the box itself), if you really want it.
I'll entertain any offer, regardless of how stupid. Obviously, I'd prefer money towards the purchase of a new spare battery for the Fuze/Touch Pro, but I'll take whatever anyone else thinks is fair. I have no expectations. If you're unsure to trust, but are a prominent member of the forum, you can have the batteries first and pay me later after evaluating them.
Anyone have questions about the "lemon" clause of the warranty? This one surprised me and was my Christmas present from AT&T.
send 'em my way and I'll see if they're good. I'll send you some random stuff (I've got a ton of random stuff from car shows, trade shows, etc.. ) in return if they're good to go. If I think they suck, I'll send 'em back and STILL include some random stuff
don't trust me? google my screen name.. I'm not hard to find.
Since no one else seems interested in what amounts to two free batteries, I guess they're all yours. What's the cheapest way to ship?
To 22079, possibly USPS? I'll be sure to return as much to you to make like shipping costs. Hit me up on email at [email protected]
if the offer is still good i'd like a free batter or a stylus or two?
also i'm interested in how you got your replacement fones. I want to get mine replaced(im still under att manufacturer's warranty). What is the best excuse?
My fone has been acting sluggish, calls have been fading in and out, but they keep telling me its the network and not the phone.
Since the back cover is removable, obviously I can see the battery just sitting in there. I know it isn't officially user replaceable but do you think we'll have options in a year or so if we want to get a new one in there? I love the battery life on this phone and I'm just worried about how much it will degrade. I plan on keeping it a long time.
I would think in about a year when the batteries start going south that you could get a replacement... At the very least you should be able to take it to a nearby cellphone repair store and have it replaced.
I know this Is a concern to me because as you flash different roms it really wears your battery.
usefulidiot127 said:
Since the back cover is removable, obviously I can see the battery just sitting in there. I know it isn't officially user replaceable but do you think we'll have options in a year or so if we want to get a new one in there? I love the battery life on this phone and I'm just worried about how much it will degrade. I plan on keeping it a long time.
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I would think it trivial to replace in the future. Only question is parts. The smaller korean model battery should be available at least.
Does anyone know if the LCDs and touchscreen digitizers for Samsung tablets and phones are cross-compatible? It would make sense from a manufacturer point of view to reuse the same circuits and architecture (I would think) but who knows... I want to replace a screen on one of my phones with a 10-12in tablet screen, and turn the phone into a DIY tablet thing. Why? Because it's an old phone that still works, is capable of LTE, and Verizon doesn't offer unlimited data plans (which I grandfathered in) on tablets, and because I have nothing better to do! :silly:
No chance for a mere mortal. Too many different controllers/adressing/timings/pinouts/...
BTW: How could your provider distinguish between use in a tablet and use in a phone? The borders between those devices are blurred and a check of device parameters like IMEI could be faked easily in many cases.
МІР said:
No chance for a mere mortal. Too many different controllers/adressing/timings/pinouts/...
BTW: How could your provider distinguish between use in a tablet and use in a phone? The borders between those devices are blurred and a check of device parameters like IMEI could be faked easily in many cases.
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TBH, I don't know how they would check. I was seriously considering buying a tablet at first, but it just doesn't seem worth it to me anymore. A good new tablet is expensive, and the battery doesn't last that long. A good used tablet will cost ~the same amount as the hardware compontents to convert a phone into a tablet (the only things that really need to be changed are the screen and battery + potentially some DIY PCB adapter from new screen to phone), and the DIY tablet may come out a little heavier than COTS tablets out there, but I can pretty much pack as much battery as I want into it.
Anyhow, I'm not in any big rush to get a tablet, and this seems like a challenging and interesting project which I could use to learn a few things and better myself
I was just looking at iFixit's teardown and it seems like it's a bit of a pain to manage compared to older phones I've done battery replacements for.
Wondering if Google has some service that you can pay to switch out the battery. I do have Amex's extended warranty but likely battery issues will start to occur after 2 years.
gonna leave this here as i am interested in this too.
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Seems like they should as Apple does. I guess I'll be prying my phone open at some point or hope there is a noticeable difference in battery life before the 2 year mark so I can make a claim with Amex
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THey may not have it now, but I bet they will need to come up with something if batteries start having issues in less than 18-24 months.
Well great. First they force us into phones that don't have replaceable batteries and then they refuse to replace them as well. Talk about waste.
Well, i tried to replace the battery of this device because i was getting around 3 hours of SOT. Got a battery.
All fine, opened up the backcover, removed some scrws. Some of they were very tight and then got to the last one. Bottom right, near the battery connector.
Not sure if it was on purpose or not, but my T3 torx screwdriver couldnt budge it. The screw is destroyed now and i have no way to remove the backcover to replace the battery.
For a flagship, they used screws that can be deformed by a nailcutter. This is absolutely disgusting.
There is no way to remove the backcover without destroying it in the process.
Now i only wonder why they made the cover with 20+ screws. Was this on purpose to over any would be fixer?
Another laptop i owned from lenovo had a stuck screw for the cpu. So there was no way to put thermal cooling paste for it.
The screw in the lenovo laptop was also destroyed in the process.
On the otherhand, my samsung laptop is still going and its from 2011.
Let this be a warning. If they had used plastic for the screws, it would have been better because at least i wouldnt need mote expensive machinery to drill them.
Unfortunately, Motorola decided to use t4 (even t2) screws in some models, which might have been your case. I used a magnifying glass to make sure the screw driver fit perfectly before turning so it didn't strip them. Took about 2 hours with heavy patience and rewatching multiple YouTube how-to's from different view points. I actually broke the black plastic that covers the Qi charging coil but thankfully that isn't a crucial part.
I bend the frame and just the replaced the battery. Luckily nothing got damaged.
Gotta test now the new battery. If it works out, at least it will spare me 400+ euros for a new phone.
But seriously, the screws are ****. I removed some of them.
I am exceptinally lucky only one got stuck in the roght place so that i could bend the frame and replace it.
Advice foreveryone, becareful for the ribbon cables. Yhey are flimsy and can be damaged extremely easily.
This phone is worth the repair and time because there isnt much out there that really competes with its screensize and performance, and hope the battery repair can help this thing last a while longer. Maybe 1-2 years
Except for flagships, every midranger i have seen is inferior and you wont get a decent 6 inch phone for under $500.-
that's why I took it to the local shop to have a pro do the job, plenty of people have reported breaking things then putting it back together and the phone wont boot or stuff doesn't work
it looks easy on the video tutorials until you **** up [emoji4]
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@shadowcore; you are getting 3 hours of SOT and you decided to change the battery????. Your battery was still in decent condition, you should have waited until the battery would die randomly.
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@shadowcore; you are getting 3 hours of SOT and you decided to change the battery????. Your battery was still in decent condition, you should have waited until the battery would die randomly.
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Well, i bought the battery off of amazon and its not available to buy anymore.
And the phone was dying at 15%>
Now with the replaced battery, i am getting 5-6 hours of SOT.
Its basically a new phone.
Does anyone know the dimensions thread of the screw? I'd buy some with a different head. My chinese screwdriver is very bad and unusable and screw too.
Maybe M1.4 x 3mm?
Thanks.
I am sure 99% that the screws are M1.4 x 2mm.
I ordered this, hope it will be OK.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/180...015.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.25724c4diD05nE
Just my opinion but I felt it was worthwhile to pay $75 for a "professional" to swap mine out. They did not make the battery easy to replace, used crap screws, etc. The vast majority of folks would be better off going this route if its avail.
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Just my opinion but I felt it was worthwhile to pay $75 for a "professional" to swap mine out. They did not make the battery easy to replace, used crap screws, etc. The vast majority of folks would be better off going this route if its avail.
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m8 the battery is like 13-18 bucks with tools, you just need to follow typical precautions. If I had 75 bucks I would've sold it long ago and bought a used first gen pixel or essential phone
Ta3miyyasandwich said:
m8 the battery is like 13-18 bucks with tools, you just need to follow typical precautions. If I had 75 bucks I would've sold it long ago and bought a used first gen pixel or essential phone
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I know that I could have replaced the battery for a $20 bill. Could have. Could have also screwed it up. Very easily screwed it up. I'm not sure where you could buy a first gen pixel for $75 or less. If you can do that, I'd say you ought to do whatever you can to scrape up the money. As far as the Essential, that's for the birds ain't it?
EDIT: Yeah, the Essential was definitely for the birds. It's sales have been so slow and sluggish that the next model has been cancelled. Whether at the $699 original price or even with the 200 or so discount that eventually came about, I get the impression it was overpriced. In my case, a Nexus 6 with fresh battery for $75 >>>>> New Essential at $500+. I still don't believe in $75 Pixels either and would love to be proven wrong. I am right or someone is withholding a massive bargain from XDA folks.