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X10 is Good ... can an X20 be Great?

I've been going through so many posts about the good an bad features of the X10 I thought maybe we should have a thread where we could actually agree on something?
If SE were to release a future device based on the X10, say the X20 what should they change?
I would say:
Give up a little sexy and go for a 1800-1900mAh battery.
USB connection on the bottom (docking station would be nice to use)
4.3 inch AMOLED screen (may help the battery issue right off the bat)
Front facing camera
Better battery cover (not sure how many times this one would come off before breaking one of those tiny tabs)
Android 2.2 at very least
Better colors .. Deep Red or Steel Blue. Yup, Pretty Pink for you ladies.

How could I forget, In-Call volume

i think x10 actually got the space to hold a bigger battery.
maybe SE just doesn't want to develope a new battery and simply give BTS-41 which is used on x1

the xperia x10 is a good device if you know how to use it. So far many of the problems have been fixed with third party add ons except for multi touch and the in call volume.
If the X10 2 does comes to Canada am going to my Rogers store and gonna ask for a discount.

vrs2610 said:
the xperia x10 is a good device if you know how to use it. So far many of the problems have been fixed with third party add ons except for multi touch and the in call volume.
If the X10 2 does comes to Canada am going to my Rogers store and gonna ask for a discount.
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Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
Multitouch is not an issue at all?? I have no idea why there are so many hung up on that. The one finger zoom looks to be a way better option.
Good luck getting a discount from Rogers. LOL

You guys forgot the most important thing...access to the bootloader .
Also, I've seen some aftermarket batteries for sale for the X10, I don't know if anyone here's tried them though...? I know there was an 1800mAh battery that is the same dimensions as the current 1500mAh one, and there was a 3600(?) mAh battery that needed a special case so it could fit.

chris_knows said:
You guys forgot the most important thing...access to the bootloader .
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We have access to the bootloader.

The way I see it is that 1.6 is a great platform to learn from and work on. The x10 suffers from software flaws.. pretty much nobody will critisize the hardware capabilities of it. The x20 doesn't even have to be released, just an x10 with better software and way less bundled stuff like mox

ClintonH said:
Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
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My call volume hasn't gotten any better with the 023, rooted.

chris_knows said:
I know there was an 1800mAh battery that is the same dimensions as the current 1500mAh one, and there was a 3600(?) mAh battery that needed a special case so it could fit.
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My 2600mAh Cameron Sino is on the way ... hope it's not TOO big.

yetep said:
The x20 doesn't even have to be released, just an x10 with better software and way less bundled stuff like mox
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Moxier was the first to go after the root was done.
I wanted to get rid of Timescape as well but a number of people have said they have messaging problems after removing it. I stop all Timscape activity with a Startup Auditor and that hasn't caused me any problems.

I don't call that improvement, i call that copy. Go get yourself a samsung.
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Izzy_Deadyet said:
Moxier was the first to go after the root was done.
I wanted to get rid of Timescape as well but a number of people have said they have messaging problems after removing it. I stop all Timscape activity with a Startup Auditor and that hasn't caused me any problems.
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Yeah taking out Timescape crashes messaging whenever I try to open pics or vids in MMS and also contacts when you try to open them. After a reinstall I have made peace with Timescape and Mediascape.

mackdaddy187 said:
Yeah taking out Timescape crashes messaging whenever I try to open pics or vids in MMS and also contacts when you try to open them. After a reinstall I have made peace with Timescape and Mediascape.
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Thanks for the info.

I have removed timescape, kept mediascape though, and I have absolutely no issues at all
Sent from my rooted x10a using XDA app

NightSidew1nd3r said:
I have removed timescape, kept mediascape though, and I have absolutely no issues at all
Sent from my rooted x10a using XDA app
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I do have a backup, Titanium, so I suppose I could give it a try
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Izzy_Deadyet said:
I do have a backup, Titanium, so I suppose I could give it a try
Thanks
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Lol sorry to be the bearer of bad news.. but it won't work!!
Sent from my X10i using XDA App

ClintonH said:
Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
Multitouch is not an issue at all?? I have no idea why there are so many hung up on that. The one finger zoom looks to be a way better option.
Good luck getting a discount from Rogers. LOL
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lol
Serious the in call volume increased
also I only miss multi touch cause you cant play the hige end games
And yeh Rogers is an ass but lets see, they did it for the G1 users so who knows

I would have:
- a back microphone (like the Nexus One) for background noise cancellation
- a Sony Ericsson original table stand (like the Aino)
- no cover over the USB connector
- USB connector not on the top of the device
- optical zoom
- a real flash
What I really don't miss:
- multitouch
- front camera

Mobzter said:
Lol sorry to be the bearer of bad news.. but it won't work!!
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I thought that TB backed up "everything" ?

Most needed features for android development

So I'm writing this list in full understanding that it is still in development for the HD2. I just want to bring to the developers' attention about what I believe to be really desired features by many. And many of which I don't think will be hard development changes. If anyone else thinks of any, feel free to reply with your ideas and Ill update this post so developers don't have to search or "fetch" the for the ideas. Oh by the way, these features are ideally from the HD2 windows mobile side of things and I feel that if we can get these features on the Android side, it won't be hard for me to let go of WM. Hey, it's the truth.
LIST OF FEATURES:
Boost from 5mp to 8mp camera
Touch focusing on camera
Fixed led notifications [being worked on]
Auto backlight [being worked on]
audio routing through bluetooth?
Other things not directed towards developers:
CoPilot (Although Google Nav is doing it for me )
Office Mobile 2010 or close
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For safe measure

avemn1 said:
So I'm writing this list in full understanding that it is still in development for the HD2. I just want to bring to the developers' attention about what I believe to be really desired features by many. And many of which I don't think will be hard development changes. If anyone else thinks of any, feel free to reply with your ideas and Ill update this post so developers don't have to search or "fetch" the for the ideas. Oh by the way, these features are ideally from the HD2 windows mobile side of things and I feel that if we can get these features on the Android side, it won't be hard for me to let go of WM. Hey, it's the truth.
LIST OF FEATURES:
Boost from 5mp to 8mp camera
Touch focusing on camera
Fixed led notifications
Auto backlight
Other things not directed towards developers:
CoPilot (Although Google Nav is doing it for me )
Office Mobile 2010 or close
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Um we have a 5mp camera not a 8mp camera its a physical limit.
Ill have a play but I think we can already do touch focus and there are plenty of other camera apps out there.(upon a quick check i found auto focus but not touch to focus)
Led notifications "are" being worked on as we speak.
I believe the auto backlight works(kinda sorta) I believe I saw cotulla say it was working but the polling delay was high so you might not see a change right away. Not sure if they incorportated that yet.
I have not looked into these threads but I know that android has copilot.
and I know we have documents to go. There is a free version and a paid version.

hazard99 said:
Um we have a 5mp camera not a 8mp camera its a physical limit.
Ill have a play but I think we can already do touch focus and there are plenty of other camera apps out there.(upon a quick check i found auto focus but not touch to focus)
Led notifications "are" being worked on as we speak.
I believe the auto backlight works(kinda sorta) I believe I saw cotulla say it was working but the polling delay was high so you might not see a change right away. Not sure if they incorportated that yet.
I have not looked into these threads but I know that android has copilot.
and I know we have documents to go. There is a free version and a paid version.
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I understand that we have a physical 5mp camera but why do we have that tweaking app for wm that tweaks it to 7/8mp?
There is a difference between touch and auto focus. Touch focus allows you to touch the screen and wherever you tap will come into focus. Huge difference when taking close-ups of an object.
Wonderful news about the led and backlight. Thanks for the update!

Only info i could find as far as the camera and android is 720p recording. It might be best to ask the camera question in the nexus1 forums. I am not sure the tweaks are legit.
A wise man once said your images will still look like crap no matter how many mp's you have if your image processor sucks.

hazard99 said:
Only info i could find as far as the camera and android is 720p recording. It might be best to ask the camera question in the nexus1 forums. I am not sure the tweaks are legit.
A wise man once said your images will still look like crap no matter how many mp's you have if your image processor sucks.
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Wow, that's funny!

whats funny

copilot does work, just make sure your version works with froyo...

hazard99 said:
whats funny
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"A wise man once said your images will still look like crap no matter how many mp's you have if your image processor sucks."
I wish the HD2 recorded in 720. Amazing.

thanks azzzz

I want touch to focus while shooting video like iphone 4.
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quick wake up out of stand by
The "lazy" wakeup out of standby to one of the reasons why I switched back to WinMo (elegancia series).
There is a thread out there concerning this issue, but no solution.

the wake problem is being addressed. So there wont be a solution till the dev's figure it out. A lot have stated that using the evo kernal makes it a lot better but Ive seen higher than normal drainage.

Most Needed features
How about audio routing through bluetooth? Its 1 useful feature of Winmo that ive been unable to get on Android.

posse786 said:
How about audio routing through bluetooth? Its 1 useful feature of Winmo that ive been unable to get on Android.
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Got it Posse786. Check first post.

avemn1 said:
I understand that we have a physical 5mp camera but why do we have that tweaking app for wm that tweaks it to 7/8mp?
There is a difference between touch and auto focus. Touch focus allows you to touch the screen and wherever you tap will come into focus. Huge difference when taking close-ups of an object.
Wonderful news about the led and backlight. Thanks for the update!
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No we do not have a tweek for higher MP cameras.
The sensor in the camera is simply only able to register a photo size of 5mp!
Even with that tweek, the photo size is still 5megapixel. (i.e. 2580 by 2048 pixels in size). 5 megapixel will print at about 8 by 10 inch, do you really want a bigger print from your phone?!
Megapixels have nothing, at all to do with image quality (unless your printing large, even then they are sort of pointless!)
That tweek, as far as I know changed the DPI of the photos.
720p video would be nice though,lol

I wish I could listen FM radio through my bluetooth headset

Well personally for me the biggest issue is stable 3G/HSPDA performance. At the moment it is the single biggest limitation of Android on the HD2. All those other issues just pale into insignificance by comparison.
The next biggest is the poor GPS pickup speed. If these were sorted I'd be very happy.

maybe a louder volume hack... since meltus stopped updating for 2.1+
music speaker and speaker phone volume is too soft. The same song plays louder when i bluetooth to another phone.

My thoughts on the Arc and why im going to sell it (read if your thinking of buying!)

Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
4. The camera takes too long to open.
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
UPDATE!!
Ok so i thought i should update this post in case anyone was still undecided on which device to buy. I have since sold my Arc and bought an S2 and WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE!.
The S2 solves all the little problems i had with the Arc (the headset wiring is the right way round, the headphone jack is on the top of the device, the micro USB is at the bottom PERFECT)
PLUS it solves the big problems i had. The S2 is lightning fast, fast like you wouldnt believe! Everything opens instantaneously including the camera which literately takes just a second to open and be ready to shoot.
Speaking of the camera the built in features are better (panorama up to 8 pictures, cartoon mode and beauty shot, as well as all the stuff the Arc has) and it films in 1080p!!! The quality is superb you just would not believe it was recorded on a phone!!! Oh AND you can use digital zoom at the highest quality setting by pinching the screen! Cool feature the Arc doesnt have at all let alone with a cool multi touch gesture!
I have had the phone running for about 3 days now and used it heavily (games, video, intensive browsing with heavy flash sites usually for 2 hours at a time) and not once have i needed to force close stuff with a task killer or restart the phone, the S2 just keeps on going with whatever you do to it. I have never known a phone capable of such use!
With my Arc i would of had to have run a task killer after EVERY task in order for it to be responsive enough to do something else at a reasonable speed. For example with the Arc if i watched a few flash videos in the browser and then pressed the home button, the Home Screen would be unresponsive for a couple of seconds and all the app shortcuts would have missing 'transparent' icons. After a few seconds the icons would come back and i would need to run a task killer to be able to do anything else or it would take up to 5mins even to load the FB app!
With the S2 i can just keep using it, task after task and it never slows down even a tiny bit, everything continues to be buttery smooth and instantaneous even after using several intensive apps!
The S2 never laggs at any time even when using a live wallpaper, its always buttery smooth and just as responsive. The Arc used to lag a bit when using a live wallpaper.
The S2 boots up in less than 15-20 seconds!!! The Arc took nearly a whole minute! Nothing so far has force closed and everything has opened almost instantaneously! The build quality is so much better, much sturdier and no wobbly buttons made of cheep plastic. Everything on the S2 is rock solid and built to a really high standard!
There are little bonus's with the phone too, the ROM and UI is much better designed. Theres a CM7 style settings widget in the notification tray, the music player looks and works brilliantly and includes a widget in the notification tray when its in use for album art and music controlls. Theres a 2MP front facing camera the Arc didnt have one at all and the battery seems to last longer. Theres loads of built in gestures, like pinching the screen in the browser when zoomed out brings up the tabbed windows screen, holding 2 fingers on the screen and then tilting the phone forward or back zooms in or out on photos and in the browser, holding an icon or a widget then tilting the phone left or right moves across the home screens and turning the phone upside down when you get a call silences the ring! Watch them here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxCW7U2m8dk
Theres also a wealth of handy built in apps from Samsung including a photo and video editor!, unlike the usual useless rubbish manufacturers put on phones plus even more handy stuff like built in screen capture by pressing 'home' and 'power' buttons together and it has that nice 'bump' effect the same as the iphone when you get to the top or bottom of a page or menu. Personally i find Touch Whiz 4.0 much better than the Arc launcher however i am using Launcher Pro (i had to buy i to replace the Arc's homescreen so i might as well get my moneys worth haha, plus i really like it)
All in all, reading peoples comments, i might agree that i had a faulty unit but even so, the S2 is miles ahead in my opinion. It just eats any task you give it with no hassel. Its never rebooted itself. It never laggs and has so many more built in features. The Super AmoLED screen is just breathtaking, the picture quality and colour depth must be seen to be believed!
Each is to their own, and im sure all the owners here love the Arc, but in my own opinion, especially if your a heavy user... GET THE S2!
P.S. For LiveView owners, disconnections are far and few between with the S2! With the Arc i would have to reconnect the LiveView every 1 or 2 hours whereas with the S2 i can sometimes go a whole day without needing to reconnect!

keyz86 said:
Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
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I am not sure what world you are talking about, but want to comment on your points..
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
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I can't say anything about that coz i have no knowledge about that...
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
"The camera has its own shutter button, and you can snap up to one frame per second at full resolution (8 megapixels)." Source: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc/93179/3
"What we might like best about this camera is how quick it is. When you press the dedicated camera key, you are ready to take the picture in no time, and to take the picture is also faster than usual." Source: http://www.mobili.no/tester/test-av-sony-ericsson-xperia-arc/
I have never used a mobile where a camera opens as fast as it does on ARC..
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Not a problem for me..
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
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And this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better? http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii/review/phone/gsmarena_029.jpg
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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You can root it although it's sim locked.. But anyway, how it's a negative point when it was YOU who bought it sim lock?
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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It's only personal choice, You can't tell others its ugly & awful. Many here mean that Samsung UI is awful.. But it depends on personal choice. SE UI was same when you decided to buy this phone & it was with this UI, the Arc was advertised..
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed..
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
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Thanks!!!!
And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree, then i will suggest to take a tour to Galaxy S2's section & i can only wish you good luck... And Bye!

Mano1982 said:
Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
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Mano1982 said:
I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
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yes really, its really that bad! restore after restore i get these problems. perhaps its a faulty unit, i dont know.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
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yes i do! my phone before this was a HD7 and before that an iPhone4, both took a fraction of the time to open the camera app. and yes i am quite aware it has a dedicated camera button thank you.
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and this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better?
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no, but i expected a lot more from Sony! plus with the S2 the stupid wiring problem doesnt exist so im free to choose what ever wired headset i wish.
Mano1982 said:
You can root it although it's sim locked
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you cant root on the 2.3.3 update
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A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed
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after the update the issue still exists for me otherwise i wouldnt have written about it
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And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree!
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i dont expect anything to be bug free, but after using several S2's to me it seems a lot less buggy than my Arc, again perhaps mine is faulty, but none the less for me personally i prefer the Samsung UI and features (built in gestures, settings on the notifications tray like in CM7 and all the little things that the Arc seems to be missing)

I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting but she still loves it I prefer the I9000 as u can see....can do more with it in regards to CM7....it works wonders on the I9000 but I'm not so sure about the Arc due its complexity of inner workings I.e bravia engine etc and the galaxy s 2 is pretty much the same as the I9000 just a faster processor and more ram...everything else is the same lol....personal preference....I9000
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA Premium App

Facebook takes 10 sec to open on mine :-D
For UI...yup dey sux whether its Samsung,lg,htc or SE. Using launcher pro instead
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I have to agree with the video recording...BUT, when you play it back on another device/player the jittery lag is non existent. good luck with your new phone anyway.

Hmmmmm... I have been tossing up between the Arc and the S2 for several days now. I know the S2 is higher spec'ed but after reading reviews about the arc I decided that for my needs, the arc would be fine. After reading this though I just don't know...

The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
Sent from the Arc.

im_iceman said:
The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
Sent from the Arc.
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So the force close thing is a faulty unit? With a new baby on the way this is going to be the last phone I'll be able to buy for a while so I want to make sure I make the right choice. I'm upgrading from a Samsung Captivate so if the force close thing is a faulty unit, then everything else is going to be alot better than I currently have?

Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.

doministry said:
Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.
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Thanks mate, I'll be getting mine first thing in the morning now

Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........

djice000 said:
I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting
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is it true?

abhisheak.bansal said:
is it true?
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It may well be, he may have got a bad one and should take it back for an exchange. Most people's arcs are rock solid though.

can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?

keyz86 said:
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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IMO you have a duff phone or dodgy apps installed. If youve reset and it's still doing it it sounds like hardware so you should take it back for an exchange. Seriously, my arc is rock solid and it *flies*.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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Almost certainly caused by same problem as 1.
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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I agree on this one. Also the button is too fiddly and unreliable. SE get a free pass from me on this one cos the camera is simply amazing otherwise.
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Personally i think it's the right way round, but if it's annoying you could always buy another lead.
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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Ah, well you have only yourself to blame for this one. Research better before purchasing next time. (or just be patient and wait for someone to crack the bootloader)
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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Couldnt disagree more, i think it's a million miles better than anything samsung or htc have produced. But horses for courses innit. As for 3rd party launchers - the ability to change launchers is one of the joys of android, and plenty of good ones are FREE.
The dialer is pretty crap though (i recommend dialer2 from the market).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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AFAIK this has been fixed in the recent firmware, probably related to your hardware problem in 1.
Cant really comment on your headphone issues, but they sound like reasonable things to have a problem with. Personally i think you have a faulty handset so i'd take it back if i were you. If the headphone issues and UI style are a dealbreaker i guess then the arc just isnt for you, but if not try again with working handset - dont dismiss the phone as being laggy/buggy because you got a duff one.

The Arc isn't really a bad phone....if your having problems with FCs etc then as Davey said it probably a dodgy app or a hardware fault. The only thing I don't like about it is the bootup time....it takes forever lol other than that its really snappy
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Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........
sorry for double post

Yeah it does every now and again....but it doesn't bother her and it takes forever to boot up, even when fresh out of the box lol
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abhisheak.bansal said:
can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?
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Personally i've only used it a couple of times as an mp3 player - but it's been pretty good, at least as good as my dedicated mp3 player.
However i havent even touched the supplied headphones, so cant comment on those either way.

[20th Aug] things i've noticed in the new 2.3.3 update

I'm with Vodafone UK and PC Companion will now give us the official firmware update even though OTA will not.
It is still 2.3.3 but definately brings some new cool things. Here is what i've found so far.
UI Changes -
1) Finally we have landscape mode for the home pages. Unfortunately it only goes to landscape if you slide the phone open, it wont switch to landscape for me by rotating the phone. Cool nevertheless.
2) Smoother menu scrolling. Well it seems alot smoother for me anyway.
3) Themes - Basic bog standard themes, but they change the colours of all the menus etc. I didnt have this before the update, i am sure of it. (maybe my memory is wrong though).
4) New Timeout animation. It look cool ! Like an old CRT television turning off with the horizontal line disapearing into a small dot.
5) My keyboard no longer behaves erratically. For example, pressing "p" regularly printed a "Q" and a "P" for me. (pressing the right hand side of the screen in landscape mode activated the right and left hand side for some strange reason!). Very nice for me !
Settings Changes -
1) XLoud (found in the settings, sound menu). Apparently this does something to the speakers. Made ZERO difference for me. Mine was massively loud anyway, so i am guessing mine were already set up this way.
2) New silent mode in settings, sound (under XLoud). "All sounds except media & Alarms"
3) "X" takes pictures !!!!!! Now no need for camera mod, unless you want to use "R" trigger instead of "X". Me personally, will use "X". Great work by the camera mod dev anyway.
Apps and Software Additions -
1) Data Monitor Widget - It will only measure 3g, not WiFi, but i guess this is all we need. The widget definately looks cool. Now my main data monitor.
2) Qriocoty - A downloadable movies and videos app. You can either rent or buy.
3) WisePilot - Not sure if this is better than the navigation, i will test it next time i am on the road.
4) NeoReader - Bog standard barcode scanner
5) Store - Re-hash of market place i think. Not sure.
Who wants to add to things i have missed? There must be other stuff we have got?

dsswoosh said:
UI Changes -
4) New Timeout animation. It look cool ! Like an old CRT television turning off with the horizontal line disapearing into a small dot.
Settings Changes -
3) "X" takes pictures !!!!!! Now no need for camera mod, unless you want to use "R" trigger instead of "X". Me personally, will use "X". Great work by the camera mod dev anyway.
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Is there a way to disable the Timeout animation? I never really liked it in custom ROMs.
Also, to use the X we'll have to slide out the gamepad, we had to know SE would make it annoying before making it easier.
Lastly, thanks a lot of the list. Now I know what to expect and hope for it to reach my carrier soon.

Hasn't X always taken the picture? I can remember doing it on 2.3.2.

JasonG_ said:
Hasn't X always taken the picture? I can remember doing it on 2.3.2.
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Yes,it was there the whole time. Been using it since I got my Play.
and 2.3.3? Isn't this 2.3.4? I'm on 2.3.3 and don't have that new xLoud feature :S

2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity

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2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity
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I kinda worries me how xloud makes the speakers even louder, I remember there used to be jailbreak apps for the iphone which forced the speakers to go louder and on alot of peoples phones it would either break or ruin the speakers if used for too long.
anyway the xperia plays speakers are loud enough as it is

subcu1ture said:
2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity
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It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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bubblegumballon said:
I kinda worries me how xloud makes the speakers even louder, I remember there used to be jailbreak apps for the iphone which forced the speakers to go louder and on alot of peoples phones it would either break or ruin the speakers if used for too long.
anyway the xperia plays speakers are loud enough as it is
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That was a hack made by the dev community, i doubt sony would release an update that could damage there phone, leaving them open to thousands of warrenty claims
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netorino said:
Is there a way to disable the Timeout animation? I never really liked it in custom ROMs.
Also, to use the X we'll have to slide out the gamepad, we had to know SE would make it annoying before making it easier.
Lastly, thanks a lot of the list. Now I know what to expect and hope for it to reach my carrier soon.
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Disable animations in display settings
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X button for shutter has always been there even in 2.3.2, and Data Monitor Widget was always there too ever since 2.3.2. Great list though. Still waiting for OTA... Hopefully...

narflynn619 said:
X button for shutter has always been there even in 2.3.2, and Data Monitor Widget was always there too ever since 2.3.2. Great list though. Still waiting for OTA... Hopefully...
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I dont about you, but our region only got data monitor in latest update .........

i have uk generic..

Maybe I'm blind but I don't have Data Monitor on GenericWorld? Is someone kind enough to pull it from /system/app? You don't need root.
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Blagus said:
Maybe I'm blind but I don't have Data Monitor on GenericWorld? Is someone kind enough to pull it from /system/app? You don't need root.
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You can get it from the market m8, its in the sony ericsson apps
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sonyericsson.android.datamonitor

AndroHero said:
You can get it from the market m8, its in the sony ericsson apps
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sonyericsson.android.datamonitor
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Really! Thanks
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Really! Thanks
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Your welcome! Anytime

UK generic I updated. And to say its pure awesome. Great work by SE everything is lot smoother now (time scape) . any of you know is there a way to root?

AndroHero said:
It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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I have my bootloader unlocked and qriocity works fine, also my track id and timescape works fine which I also heard dont work,
Would there be a reason I have still have this working
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I was wondering whether this update would delete all the apps I have downloaded? The last firmware update didn't seem to have affected any of my apps, so I'm hoping this one wouldn't either

AndroHero said:
It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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Yep that is what i said in my post...
Also my bootloader is still locked. I actually like the features of FiX for music etc.
Strange that I don't have Qriocity though because it is available in my region and I have a Qriocity account.
Wonder why this is...

Who's happy with the new update -I am

Hi
Got my update today on generic UK and I am really impressed
Have seen a lot of people moaning that the update didn't come out quick enough
Loving the new improvements, wow camera start up time is amazing now
Loving the new themes
Walkman app sounds better without clear audio enabled now using external amp
New email client is nice and loving the new keyboard
Overall I am very impressed
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Yeah I think. 4.3 is great on the z.feels like an upgrade should
Sony Ericsson w800,LG viewty,Nokia 5800,HTC wildfire,HTC desire s,Motorola xoom,nexus 7,nexus 4,Xperia z,nexus 7 2

It's awesome although the ram is less free now but still
I liked the new camera app plus the add-on and the new task for the volume keys and I hated how we can't view and delete the photo within the camera app without going to albums
I liked the new awesome keyboard but also I hate that we can't unchecke the Chinese language
The new phone app is cool
The brightness quick setting is something needed for long time hopefully they will do the same with sounds
that's about it for now
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Amazing especially with existenze rom. Smooth as butter :thumbup:
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not all that happy would have benn if they had the feature to move apps to sd like in other 4.3 updates like s4,s3 etc

The only, though a major dissapointment that I found was the deterioration of the camera quality. Initially, XZ was hated for it's low light photos but after the last 4.2.2 update, the camera worked like a charm and had me on my toes for very good noise reduction even in superior auto mode.
And I am very dissapointed that again in 4.3 there is a lot of noise in relatively low light photos. I don't like the automatic ISO it sets for the photographs (in Superior Auto mode). Apart from that, clicking a photo via volume keys is simply wonderful and enables us to finally take waters underwater.

I like it.

Anyone else's run a lot cooler? Mine gets no where near as hot.
Menus run smoother, not a fan of the new keyboard so switched out to the regular Google one. Love the white. Battery seems similar to previously. Love the brightness and throw quick settings. Camera app is better although I'm disappointed at no Time shift burst.

50% happy. Of 50% unhappy.

Not really happy with it, no improvement much that i can tell. I don't like the bright white settings menu, it seems like more boring plain themes, the camera no long has any quality options , same with video , i have less choice now.
So far disappointed

the new keyboard is godly, does anyone know if it is possible to extract it and make an apk out of it? or does anyone have any tips on how to start?

Mixed feelings for me, having the Suspend_backoff Wakelock (Android OS battery drain) but overall smoothness and performance has improved, We have almost the same features as the Z1 now and for that I don't really envy the Z1 anymore. Camera is better in someways (like the volume button can be used as shutter) but I do agree somehow quality isn't like how it used to be.

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the camera no long has any quality options , same with video , i have less choice now.
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no quality options? I am sure you haven't check out the manual mode yet.

Overall liking it so far
Except for the known WiFi issue for people using SW2
Which renders the watch useless, So much for Smart Watches lol

Best update so far.
Been using Sony / Sony Ericsson phones since the Xperia Arc S and the 4.3 update is ,IMO the best update from Sony so far.
The smoothest UI experience I have ever had with a Sony phone.
Having said that, I agree with gerickjohn regarding the wakelock issue. Used Grenify to hibernate lots of apps (including system apps) as well as system tuner and xposed boot manager to prevent apps on boot and unused processes. Still uses about 1% per hour on standby which is quite a bit more than on 4.2.2 (1% per 3-4 hours). Not a huge drain, but I prefer to reserve the battery for when I'm actually using the phone.
Camera has never been the best on the XZ so wasn't expecting much anyway.
P.S Does anyone know if Grenifying the wrong system apps can actually cause more battery drain? i.e apps that keep trying to start everytime they are hibernated?
Edit: I think I may have fixed the Android OS wakelock by disabling auto backup/restore and deleting the "gmail extension" in dashclock.
gerickjohn said:
Mixed feelings for me, having the Suspend_backoff Wakelock (Android OS battery drain) but overall smoothness and performance has improved, We have almost the same features as the Z1 now and for that I don't really envy the Z1 anymore. Camera is better in someways (like the volume button can be used as shutter) but I do agree somehow quality isn't like how it used to be.
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One thing that made me wanna buy this Xperia Z is the ability to capture good pictures in low-light condition. But after this update, the quality is very poor. Even Oppo Find 5 (chinese branded phone) can takes better pictures than my Xperia Z in low light condition. It's a shame...

I am about to update my phone soon (UK unbranded), but at the same time I am a bit sceptical about the change of the keyboard? I don't really understand what people mean by the new layout & I have searched around but not enough information on it.
Can anyone let me know if the T9 (predictive text) is still there with the old style keypad? I don't like using the qwerty board - I make too many mistakes despite having small fingers! A screenshot would be most helpful! Thanks

SalamiQueen said:
I am about to update my phone soon (UK unbranded), but at the same time I am a bit sceptical about the change of the keyboard? I don't really understand what people mean by the new layout & I have searched around but not enough information on it.
Can anyone let me know if the T9 (predictive text) is still there with the old style keypad? I don't like using the qwerty board - I make too many mistakes despite having small fingers! A screenshot would be most helpful! Thanks
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It's great dont worry, before the update i was using swiftykey and now I'm using the default keyboard and im happy with it
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Zewarxx said:
It's great dont worry, before the update i was using swiftykey and now I'm using the default keyboard and im happy with it
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Thank you
So it's just visually a little different, just more rounded edges?
I thought it was all squashed up to one side from what I heard.
Will update now then!

Rooting
Struggling to root my phone with 4.3? Anyone have any advice or is there a new guide?
Regards,