I've been going through so many posts about the good an bad features of the X10 I thought maybe we should have a thread where we could actually agree on something?
If SE were to release a future device based on the X10, say the X20 what should they change?
I would say:
Give up a little sexy and go for a 1800-1900mAh battery.
USB connection on the bottom (docking station would be nice to use)
4.3 inch AMOLED screen (may help the battery issue right off the bat)
Front facing camera
Better battery cover (not sure how many times this one would come off before breaking one of those tiny tabs)
Android 2.2 at very least
Better colors .. Deep Red or Steel Blue. Yup, Pretty Pink for you ladies.
How could I forget, In-Call volume
i think x10 actually got the space to hold a bigger battery.
maybe SE just doesn't want to develope a new battery and simply give BTS-41 which is used on x1
the xperia x10 is a good device if you know how to use it. So far many of the problems have been fixed with third party add ons except for multi touch and the in call volume.
If the X10 2 does comes to Canada am going to my Rogers store and gonna ask for a discount.
vrs2610 said:
the xperia x10 is a good device if you know how to use it. So far many of the problems have been fixed with third party add ons except for multi touch and the in call volume.
If the X10 2 does comes to Canada am going to my Rogers store and gonna ask for a discount.
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Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
Multitouch is not an issue at all?? I have no idea why there are so many hung up on that. The one finger zoom looks to be a way better option.
Good luck getting a discount from Rogers. LOL
You guys forgot the most important thing...access to the bootloader .
Also, I've seen some aftermarket batteries for sale for the X10, I don't know if anyone here's tried them though...? I know there was an 1800mAh battery that is the same dimensions as the current 1500mAh one, and there was a 3600(?) mAh battery that needed a special case so it could fit.
chris_knows said:
You guys forgot the most important thing...access to the bootloader .
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We have access to the bootloader.
The way I see it is that 1.6 is a great platform to learn from and work on. The x10 suffers from software flaws.. pretty much nobody will critisize the hardware capabilities of it. The x20 doesn't even have to be released, just an x10 with better software and way less bundled stuff like mox
ClintonH said:
Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
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My call volume hasn't gotten any better with the 023, rooted.
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I know there was an 1800mAh battery that is the same dimensions as the current 1500mAh one, and there was a 3600(?) mAh battery that needed a special case so it could fit.
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My 2600mAh Cameron Sino is on the way ... hope it's not TOO big.
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The x20 doesn't even have to be released, just an x10 with better software and way less bundled stuff like mox
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Moxier was the first to go after the root was done.
I wanted to get rid of Timescape as well but a number of people have said they have messaging problems after removing it. I stop all Timscape activity with a Startup Auditor and that hasn't caused me any problems.
I don't call that improvement, i call that copy. Go get yourself a samsung.
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Izzy_Deadyet said:
Moxier was the first to go after the root was done.
I wanted to get rid of Timescape as well but a number of people have said they have messaging problems after removing it. I stop all Timscape activity with a Startup Auditor and that hasn't caused me any problems.
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Yeah taking out Timescape crashes messaging whenever I try to open pics or vids in MMS and also contacts when you try to open them. After a reinstall I have made peace with Timescape and Mediascape.
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Yeah taking out Timescape crashes messaging whenever I try to open pics or vids in MMS and also contacts when you try to open them. After a reinstall I have made peace with Timescape and Mediascape.
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Thanks for the info.
I have removed timescape, kept mediascape though, and I have absolutely no issues at all
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NightSidew1nd3r said:
I have removed timescape, kept mediascape though, and I have absolutely no issues at all
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I do have a backup, Titanium, so I suppose I could give it a try
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I do have a backup, Titanium, so I suppose I could give it a try
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Lol sorry to be the bearer of bad news.. but it won't work!!
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ClintonH said:
Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
Multitouch is not an issue at all?? I have no idea why there are so many hung up on that. The one finger zoom looks to be a way better option.
Good luck getting a discount from Rogers. LOL
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lol
Serious the in call volume increased
also I only miss multi touch cause you cant play the hige end games
And yeh Rogers is an ass but lets see, they did it for the G1 users so who knows
I would have:
- a back microphone (like the Nexus One) for background noise cancellation
- a Sony Ericsson original table stand (like the Aino)
- no cover over the USB connector
- USB connector not on the top of the device
- optical zoom
- a real flash
What I really don't miss:
- multitouch
- front camera
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Lol sorry to be the bearer of bad news.. but it won't work!!
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I thought that TB backed up "everything" ?
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Maybe I'm missing something but I've been reading change logs for Android 2.1 vs 1.6 and I don't really see what the big deal is.
Aside from someone posting that the battery life was a "zillion times better" I don't see anything that is going to improve my phone. Most of what's offered in 2.1 I've already gotten via 3rd party apps for 1.6.
Glad to hear about the "zillion times better" though, throwing out all of my chargers now Assuming most of us would place the fictitious "zillion" somewhere near a trilllion that would mean the battery should last 2.73790926 × 10^9 years. I'll probably change phones before charging again.
Seriously though, what does 2.1 really bring that the market apps don't?
more apps are supporting 2.0/2.1 and above only
Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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Hmmm I can't seem to install twitter. I wonder w... oh riiiight. 1.6.
More app compatibility plus faster OS plus better battery. No wonder we can't wait eh?
Well, some just don't know what they're missing until they've tried it.
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Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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Twitter sucks
Anyways, for me, the main thing would be more apps would be compatible with the phone! I've been dieing to try LauncherPro!
Another thing that was promised with the update was 720p Recording, and Live Wallpapers (which is also something else that i am excited for)!
Plus
- Full range of colors: 1.6 only has 65000 colors (16-bit), you can see the banding very visible in pictures and movies. With 2.1 we get full 16 million colors.
- Improved BT stack: with 2.1 we will be able to see contact and song names in the displays of our bundled MW600 headsets
Hopefully they've also finally addressed the low in-call volume issue.
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Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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Really? I want 2.1 for Twitter
You'll be waiting a long time dude because I wouldn't Twitter if Android 100.1 were out.
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more apps are supporting 2.0/2.1 and above only
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True but apps that do what? Live wallpaper
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Hmmm I can't seem to install twitter. I wonder w... oh riiiight. 1.6.
More app compatibility plus faster OS plus better battery. No wonder we can't wait eh?
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I know ... what will I ever do not knowing the every thought of people that I don't care about
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Well, some just don't know what they're missing until they've tried it.
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Possibly true but you don't really point out "what" I'm missing?
shukla said:
Twitter sucks
Anyways, for me, the main thing would be more apps would be compatible with the phone! I've been dieing to try LauncherPro!
Another thing that was promised with the update was 720p Recording, and Live Wallpapers (which is also something else that i am excited for)!
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I can see 720p recording as a useful addition.
The offical twitter app isn't that good to me. I have tried and last I had it it would always load at the top of the list. Boo third party apps like seesmic and twitdeck have had this fuction for months. I do want to see the display difference in 2.1
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losdrivare said:
Plus
- Full range of colors: 1.6 only has 65000 colors (16-bit), you can see the banding very visible in pictures and movies. With 2.1 we get full 16 million colors.
- Improved BT stack: with 2.1 we will be able to see contact and song names in the displays of our bundled MW600 headsets
Hopefully they've also finally addressed the low in-call volume issue.
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AS to the colors I'm not really that excited but I don't really use the X10 for video. If you're a mobile video watcher then I can see why the video enhancement would be something to look forward to.
BT stack improvements would be welcomed but until I can BT voice dial I still won't be thrilled.
Funny thing about that in-call volume. When I use Google Voice the in-call volume is much much better ... no idea why.
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BTW you know what's better than Twitter? Google Buzz.
That way, I can not only be inundated by useless thoughts I can also know exactly where they had the useless thought ... sweet.
So far:
Improved colors = useful for some to be sure.
720p video recording = I may use it from time to time.
Newer apps = Depends on what they do but I'm pretty happy with my 100 apps.
Improved BT stack = Yup but still want BT voice dial.
Better battery = Hard to really say unless someone with an X10 is running 2.1
Speed = Pretty fast already.
Twitter = No thanks.
Facebook = No thanks.
Social networking in general = No thanks (I actual reality network
My point wasn't to insult those waiting for 2.1 it was an honest question, "Am I missing something?". The improvements listed, for me, won't get me to upgrade.
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Hmmm I can't seem to install twitter. I wonder w... oh riiiight. 1.6.
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Twitter .. enough said already.
Are you really sure there is going to be a great battery improvement? Until 2.1 is running on the X10 you won't know for certain.
I do know that my extended battery has reallly worked out for me. I use the phone for all it's worth (except twitter) and I can go 14 hours and still have 60% remaining.
I will be happy when blue tooth handsfree calling actually works on my nokia car kit, i dont care what version of android it is, just bloody work!
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I will be happy when blue tooth handsfree calling actually works on my nokia car kit, i dont care what version of android it is, just bloody work!
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Yes, my only true desire.
I hope it works well with Google Voice since I have the option set to ask me if I want to use GV or a normal call. Guess I'll find out if 2.2 comes out from SE or the devs.
More RAM to play with and HTML5 support?
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Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
4. The camera takes too long to open.
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
UPDATE!!
Ok so i thought i should update this post in case anyone was still undecided on which device to buy. I have since sold my Arc and bought an S2 and WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE!.
The S2 solves all the little problems i had with the Arc (the headset wiring is the right way round, the headphone jack is on the top of the device, the micro USB is at the bottom PERFECT)
PLUS it solves the big problems i had. The S2 is lightning fast, fast like you wouldnt believe! Everything opens instantaneously including the camera which literately takes just a second to open and be ready to shoot.
Speaking of the camera the built in features are better (panorama up to 8 pictures, cartoon mode and beauty shot, as well as all the stuff the Arc has) and it films in 1080p!!! The quality is superb you just would not believe it was recorded on a phone!!! Oh AND you can use digital zoom at the highest quality setting by pinching the screen! Cool feature the Arc doesnt have at all let alone with a cool multi touch gesture!
I have had the phone running for about 3 days now and used it heavily (games, video, intensive browsing with heavy flash sites usually for 2 hours at a time) and not once have i needed to force close stuff with a task killer or restart the phone, the S2 just keeps on going with whatever you do to it. I have never known a phone capable of such use!
With my Arc i would of had to have run a task killer after EVERY task in order for it to be responsive enough to do something else at a reasonable speed. For example with the Arc if i watched a few flash videos in the browser and then pressed the home button, the Home Screen would be unresponsive for a couple of seconds and all the app shortcuts would have missing 'transparent' icons. After a few seconds the icons would come back and i would need to run a task killer to be able to do anything else or it would take up to 5mins even to load the FB app!
With the S2 i can just keep using it, task after task and it never slows down even a tiny bit, everything continues to be buttery smooth and instantaneous even after using several intensive apps!
The S2 never laggs at any time even when using a live wallpaper, its always buttery smooth and just as responsive. The Arc used to lag a bit when using a live wallpaper.
The S2 boots up in less than 15-20 seconds!!! The Arc took nearly a whole minute! Nothing so far has force closed and everything has opened almost instantaneously! The build quality is so much better, much sturdier and no wobbly buttons made of cheep plastic. Everything on the S2 is rock solid and built to a really high standard!
There are little bonus's with the phone too, the ROM and UI is much better designed. Theres a CM7 style settings widget in the notification tray, the music player looks and works brilliantly and includes a widget in the notification tray when its in use for album art and music controlls. Theres a 2MP front facing camera the Arc didnt have one at all and the battery seems to last longer. Theres loads of built in gestures, like pinching the screen in the browser when zoomed out brings up the tabbed windows screen, holding 2 fingers on the screen and then tilting the phone forward or back zooms in or out on photos and in the browser, holding an icon or a widget then tilting the phone left or right moves across the home screens and turning the phone upside down when you get a call silences the ring! Watch them here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxCW7U2m8dk
Theres also a wealth of handy built in apps from Samsung including a photo and video editor!, unlike the usual useless rubbish manufacturers put on phones plus even more handy stuff like built in screen capture by pressing 'home' and 'power' buttons together and it has that nice 'bump' effect the same as the iphone when you get to the top or bottom of a page or menu. Personally i find Touch Whiz 4.0 much better than the Arc launcher however i am using Launcher Pro (i had to buy i to replace the Arc's homescreen so i might as well get my moneys worth haha, plus i really like it)
All in all, reading peoples comments, i might agree that i had a faulty unit but even so, the S2 is miles ahead in my opinion. It just eats any task you give it with no hassel. Its never rebooted itself. It never laggs and has so many more built in features. The Super AmoLED screen is just breathtaking, the picture quality and colour depth must be seen to be believed!
Each is to their own, and im sure all the owners here love the Arc, but in my own opinion, especially if your a heavy user... GET THE S2!
P.S. For LiveView owners, disconnections are far and few between with the S2! With the Arc i would have to reconnect the LiveView every 1 or 2 hours whereas with the S2 i can sometimes go a whole day without needing to reconnect!
keyz86 said:
Hi all,
Now im generally not a fan of people posting 'hate' threads, but this phone has dissapointed me so much that i feel it necessary to point out why i turned to hate it and why im selling it and getting the Galaxy SII in order to help people that are thinking of buying this phone to make an advised decision.
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I am not sure what world you are talking about, but want to comment on your points..
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
3. Sony Ericsson's stupid decision to reverse the ground and mic wires so you cant use any other wired headphones with an inline control but the ones it came with. As discussed in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045973&page=1
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I can't say anything about that coz i have no knowledge about that...
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
"The camera has its own shutter button, and you can snap up to one frame per second at full resolution (8 megapixels)." Source: http://www.amobil.no/artikler/sony_ericsson_xperia_arc/93179/3
"What we might like best about this camera is how quick it is. When you press the dedicated camera key, you are ready to take the picture in no time, and to take the picture is also faster than usual." Source: http://www.mobili.no/tester/test-av-sony-ericsson-xperia-arc/
I have never used a mobile where a camera opens as fast as it does on ARC..
5. The USB socket is on the side at the top so you have to have a landscape dock which takes up more room (obviously only applies to people that use a dock with their phones).
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Not a problem for me..
7. The headphone jack is on the side (ok this is not a major issue but is annoying when getting it in and out of your pocket when you have headphones in.
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Not a problem for me... But didn't you know that before buying?
8. The headphones that come with it only have a play/pause button and no volume or any way to change tracks. (i hear theres an app that can change what the button does but it really should be there to start with!)
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And this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better? http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-i9100-galaxy-s-ii/review/phone/gsmarena_029.jpg
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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You can root it although it's sim locked.. But anyway, how it's a negative point when it was YOU who bought it sim lock?
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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It's only personal choice, You can't tell others its ugly & awful. Many here mean that Samsung UI is awful.. But it depends on personal choice. SE UI was same when you decided to buy this phone & it was with this UI, the Arc was advertised..
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed..
I will go on to say though that the camera is the best phone camera i have ever used by far! Stunning photos everytime. And the same goes for the built in speaker.
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Thanks!!!!
And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree, then i will suggest to take a tour to Galaxy S2's section & i can only wish you good luck... And Bye!
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Really??? I have more than 100 apps installed from Market & not a single app force closes & there is no lag. There are a lot of videos on youtube of ARC running smoothly with loads of apps, without lag or force close. Every review statets that & even it runs almost as sommth & fast as GalaxyS2 (Youtube Videos)
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Mano1982 said:
I just can't believe that. 4 Arc in my house, and not a single has a similar problem. My phone runs normalls when it syncing..
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yes really, its really that bad! restore after restore i get these problems. perhaps its a faulty unit, i dont know.
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Really? Do you really mean it???
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yes i do! my phone before this was a HD7 and before that an iPhone4, both took a fraction of the time to open the camera app. and yes i am quite aware it has a dedicated camera button thank you.
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and this one with Galaxy S2 is really far better?
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no, but i expected a lot more from Sony! plus with the S2 the stupid wiring problem doesnt exist so im free to choose what ever wired headset i wish.
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You can root it although it's sim locked
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you cant root on the 2.3.3 update
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A lot of videos available on net captured with Arc.. And after lastest update the minor bugs are already fixed
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after the update the issue still exists for me otherwise i wouldnt have written about it
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And if you think Galaxy S2 would be really bugfree!
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i dont expect anything to be bug free, but after using several S2's to me it seems a lot less buggy than my Arc, again perhaps mine is faulty, but none the less for me personally i prefer the Samsung UI and features (built in gestures, settings on the notifications tray like in CM7 and all the little things that the Arc seems to be missing)
I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting but she still loves it I prefer the I9000 as u can see....can do more with it in regards to CM7....it works wonders on the I9000 but I'm not so sure about the Arc due its complexity of inner workings I.e bravia engine etc and the galaxy s 2 is pretty much the same as the I9000 just a faster processor and more ram...everything else is the same lol....personal preference....I9000
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Facebook takes 10 sec to open on mine :-D
For UI...yup dey sux whether its Samsung,lg,htc or SE. Using launcher pro instead
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I have to agree with the video recording...BUT, when you play it back on another device/player the jittery lag is non existent. good luck with your new phone anyway.
Hmmmmm... I have been tossing up between the Arc and the S2 for several days now. I know the S2 is higher spec'ed but after reading reviews about the arc I decided that for my needs, the arc would be fine. After reading this though I just don't know...
The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
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The only one of those issues that is real is the headphone wiring one.. Everything else is either personal preference or faulty unit.
Sent from the Arc.
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So the force close thing is a faulty unit? With a new baby on the way this is going to be the last phone I'll be able to buy for a while so I want to make sure I make the right choice. I'm upgrading from a Samsung Captivate so if the force close thing is a faulty unit, then everything else is going to be alot better than I currently have?
Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.
doministry said:
Of course it's a faulty unit.
Or some **** software installed.
Normally Arc is super snappy.
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Thanks mate, I'll be getting mine first thing in the morning now
Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........
djice000 said:
I do admit that my misses Arc keeps force closing and randomly rebooting
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is it true?
abhisheak.bansal said:
is it true?
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It may well be, he may have got a bad one and should take it back for an exchange. Most people's arcs are rock solid though.
can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?
keyz86 said:
1. It constantly lags, and almost every app force closes (and YES i have reset the phone and used both .181 and .145 versions of the firmware.
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IMO you have a duff phone or dodgy apps installed. If youve reset and it's still doing it it sounds like hardware so you should take it back for an exchange. Seriously, my arc is rock solid and it *flies*.
2. When the phone starts syncing accounts in the background it renders it unusable. The phone takes up to 5 minutes to load the Facebook app and longer for anything else.
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Almost certainly caused by same problem as 1.
4. The camera takes too long to open.
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I agree on this one. Also the button is too fiddly and unreliable. SE get a free pass from me on this one cos the camera is simply amazing otherwise.
6. The USB/Power lead that comes with it is angled up instead of down which i find just gets in the way.
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Personally i think it's the right way round, but if it's annoying you could always buy another lead.
9. I bought a sim locked version which at the moment means i cant root or install custom roms.
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Ah, well you have only yourself to blame for this one. Research better before purchasing next time. (or just be patient and wait for someone to crack the bootloader)
10. The Sony Ericsson UI is awful and downright ugly (again you can always install a different launcher, but thats money for an app that you shouldnt need in my opinion and it just covers the home screens, as soon as you enter the Settings, Dialler or Contacts your right back in the SEUI).
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Couldnt disagree more, i think it's a million miles better than anything samsung or htc have produced. But horses for courses innit. As for 3rd party launchers - the ability to change launchers is one of the joys of android, and plenty of good ones are FREE.
The dialer is pretty crap though (i recommend dialer2 from the market).
11. Recording in 720p is super laggy and jolts all the time making it useless.
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AFAIK this has been fixed in the recent firmware, probably related to your hardware problem in 1.
Cant really comment on your headphone issues, but they sound like reasonable things to have a problem with. Personally i think you have a faulty handset so i'd take it back if i were you. If the headphone issues and UI style are a dealbreaker i guess then the arc just isnt for you, but if not try again with working handset - dont dismiss the phone as being laggy/buggy because you got a duff one.
The Arc isn't really a bad phone....if your having problems with FCs etc then as Davey said it probably a dodgy app or a hardware fault. The only thing I don't like about it is the bootup time....it takes forever lol other than that its really snappy
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Hey i want to know about the sound quality of arc in headphone?
i am not a audiophile but i use phone to listen songs(daily 2hours or more),,right now i am having w705 with modded acoustic and it give good sound and beats.....so i want to know is sound quality of arc in headphone is good or bad?
i am thinking of upgrading my phone..........
please give genuine advice...........
sorry for double post
Yeah it does every now and again....but it doesn't bother her and it takes forever to boot up, even when fresh out of the box lol
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can u answer sound quality question mentioned above?
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Personally i've only used it a couple of times as an mp3 player - but it's been pretty good, at least as good as my dedicated mp3 player.
However i havent even touched the supplied headphones, so cant comment on those either way.
In my urge to find something "different" I'm considering purchasing an X10, but all the reviews say it's just terrible...
Honestly, how bad can it be? Is this just tainted blood from when it was first released on 1.6? Am I wrong in thinking that it's a very usable device, either with the latest updates, or on a rom from the dev section?
I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
What do you mean the screen is bad? Response or the image on the screen?
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I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
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The screen isnt that bad at all. And theres always gonna be better devices for the same price no matter what device you have. There are better devices, but how much are you willing to spend?
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Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
ClubDownforce said:
Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
Camera, signal, and battery life are just fine. It's not the fastest phone. It's still pretty laggy even when optimized. Things should really improve with the 2.3 upgrade but even with that, there are faster, more powerful, and featured phones out there.
For the average smartphone user, the major downside to this phone is the low in call volume. I've had to purchase a bluetooth speakerphone for the car (which is great actually). Taking a call in a loud environment is awful.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
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Id say go for it. You dont sound to demanding, and you dont sound like you need the best of the best. The X10 is pretty pleasing in my experience.
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I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.
The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.
I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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What were the colors originally
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Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
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I'm with Vodafone UK and PC Companion will now give us the official firmware update even though OTA will not.
It is still 2.3.3 but definately brings some new cool things. Here is what i've found so far.
UI Changes -
1) Finally we have landscape mode for the home pages. Unfortunately it only goes to landscape if you slide the phone open, it wont switch to landscape for me by rotating the phone. Cool nevertheless.
2) Smoother menu scrolling. Well it seems alot smoother for me anyway.
3) Themes - Basic bog standard themes, but they change the colours of all the menus etc. I didnt have this before the update, i am sure of it. (maybe my memory is wrong though).
4) New Timeout animation. It look cool ! Like an old CRT television turning off with the horizontal line disapearing into a small dot.
5) My keyboard no longer behaves erratically. For example, pressing "p" regularly printed a "Q" and a "P" for me. (pressing the right hand side of the screen in landscape mode activated the right and left hand side for some strange reason!). Very nice for me !
Settings Changes -
1) XLoud (found in the settings, sound menu). Apparently this does something to the speakers. Made ZERO difference for me. Mine was massively loud anyway, so i am guessing mine were already set up this way.
2) New silent mode in settings, sound (under XLoud). "All sounds except media & Alarms"
3) "X" takes pictures !!!!!! Now no need for camera mod, unless you want to use "R" trigger instead of "X". Me personally, will use "X". Great work by the camera mod dev anyway.
Apps and Software Additions -
1) Data Monitor Widget - It will only measure 3g, not WiFi, but i guess this is all we need. The widget definately looks cool. Now my main data monitor.
2) Qriocoty - A downloadable movies and videos app. You can either rent or buy.
3) WisePilot - Not sure if this is better than the navigation, i will test it next time i am on the road.
4) NeoReader - Bog standard barcode scanner
5) Store - Re-hash of market place i think. Not sure.
Who wants to add to things i have missed? There must be other stuff we have got?
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UI Changes -
4) New Timeout animation. It look cool ! Like an old CRT television turning off with the horizontal line disapearing into a small dot.
Settings Changes -
3) "X" takes pictures !!!!!! Now no need for camera mod, unless you want to use "R" trigger instead of "X". Me personally, will use "X". Great work by the camera mod dev anyway.
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Is there a way to disable the Timeout animation? I never really liked it in custom ROMs.
Also, to use the X we'll have to slide out the gamepad, we had to know SE would make it annoying before making it easier.
Lastly, thanks a lot of the list. Now I know what to expect and hope for it to reach my carrier soon.
Hasn't X always taken the picture? I can remember doing it on 2.3.2.
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Hasn't X always taken the picture? I can remember doing it on 2.3.2.
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Yes,it was there the whole time. Been using it since I got my Play.
and 2.3.3? Isn't this 2.3.4? I'm on 2.3.3 and don't have that new xLoud feature :S
2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity
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2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity
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I kinda worries me how xloud makes the speakers even louder, I remember there used to be jailbreak apps for the iphone which forced the speakers to go louder and on alot of peoples phones it would either break or ruin the speakers if used for too long.
anyway the xperia plays speakers are loud enough as it is
subcu1ture said:
2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity
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It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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I kinda worries me how xloud makes the speakers even louder, I remember there used to be jailbreak apps for the iphone which forced the speakers to go louder and on alot of peoples phones it would either break or ruin the speakers if used for too long.
anyway the xperia plays speakers are loud enough as it is
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That was a hack made by the dev community, i doubt sony would release an update that could damage there phone, leaving them open to thousands of warrenty claims
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Is there a way to disable the Timeout animation? I never really liked it in custom ROMs.
Also, to use the X we'll have to slide out the gamepad, we had to know SE would make it annoying before making it easier.
Lastly, thanks a lot of the list. Now I know what to expect and hope for it to reach my carrier soon.
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Disable animations in display settings
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X button for shutter has always been there even in 2.3.2, and Data Monitor Widget was always there too ever since 2.3.2. Great list though. Still waiting for OTA... Hopefully...
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X button for shutter has always been there even in 2.3.2, and Data Monitor Widget was always there too ever since 2.3.2. Great list though. Still waiting for OTA... Hopefully...
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I dont about you, but our region only got data monitor in latest update .........
i have uk generic..
Maybe I'm blind but I don't have Data Monitor on GenericWorld? Is someone kind enough to pull it from /system/app? You don't need root.
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Blagus said:
Maybe I'm blind but I don't have Data Monitor on GenericWorld? Is someone kind enough to pull it from /system/app? You don't need root.
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You can get it from the market m8, its in the sony ericsson apps
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sonyericsson.android.datamonitor
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You can get it from the market m8, its in the sony ericsson apps
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sonyericsson.android.datamonitor
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Really! Thanks
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Really! Thanks
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Your welcome! Anytime
UK generic I updated. And to say its pure awesome. Great work by SE everything is lot smoother now (time scape) . any of you know is there a way to root?
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It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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I have my bootloader unlocked and qriocity works fine, also my track id and timescape works fine which I also heard dont work,
Would there be a reason I have still have this working
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I was wondering whether this update would delete all the apps I have downloaded? The last firmware update didn't seem to have affected any of my apps, so I'm hoping this one wouldn't either
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It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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Yep that is what i said in my post...
Also my bootloader is still locked. I actually like the features of FiX for music etc.
Strange that I don't have Qriocity though because it is available in my region and I have a Qriocity account.
Wonder why this is...
I found this model can be purchased for aliexpress.
what think?
http://armdevices.net/2013/10/14/zgpax-smart-watch-mt6577-95-bulk/
adonleice said:
I found this model can be purchased for aliexpress.
what think?
http://armdevices.net/2013/10/14/zgpax-smart-watch-mt6577-95-bulk/
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I'm actually going to purchase one here shortly.... curious to see if it can run 3rd party launchers well with smaller homescreen grids. They need to create a seperate thread for this !
hi you can do a review thanks
looks interesting, would like to know if it's a good companion watch, with a decent amount of watch faces
adonleice said:
hi you can do a review thanks
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JarlSX said:
looks interesting, would like to know if it's a good companion watch, with a decent amount of watch faces
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Just got it in... trying to root and all that.. but it's AWESOME! 100% Cool as hell. trying to find a comptible launcher and such.
***EDIT UPDATE*** so ADW i have working VERY smooth... eats up a little more memory though so loooking around for launcherpro and other small ram users
***EDIT UPDATE 2 **** have rooted the device using Framaroot... superuser works... already using root tools great
hi BigBison420
oh it looks nice, where did you buy it? hot time the shipping?the battery works well?a lot of thanks
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hi BigBison420
oh it looks nice, where did you buy it? hot time the shipping?the battery works well?a lot of thanks
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get it from eCrater.com from Tech Direct i believe it's called... it will be $177 total (including shipping) but i got mine in 3 days.... I ordered Thursday of last week Very good seller
I have been emailing manufacturer's because they are apparently working on software to use with the device to pair to the phones. There are no current apps that utilize call handling from Phone to Watch so the device is more of a standalone device for now. Plays videos, good camera, touch functionality is good, it got a little bit hot while i was runing ADW launcher so i uninstalled that... stock launcher runs fine. Charges fast - FM radio feature is pretty damn cool however you have to use stock headphone it comes with as antenna, they plug in via micro usb. Overall great build quality... Looks like an HTC One LOL
Looks good
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hi how many hours work the battery thanks
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hi how many hours work the battery thanks
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In the video, the person said that the battery will last 1 and 1/2 days. (Not a China dude but I still understand their Singlish)
Btw the battery life is probably the same for other similar smart watches unless they have battery tweaks like the Qualcomm toq and the pebble smart watch which reduces or fully disables touchscreen and colour
Well the battery life i don't know because i haven't killed it yet..... The battery meter goes up and down QUITE a bit though so i can't get a real good read on the battery gauge, which is kind of frustrating...
So far i've rooted and changed the boot animation with rom toolbox pro. I cannot get the stock lock screen clock and launcher to go away tho, even after changing the filenames in /System/App which leaves me boggled. I am running ADW and a large digital clock on my homescreen and would rather unlock to that then the analog clock.
If you guys are interested, i did a quick review of the watch i will upload to youtube tonight and make new thread with video
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Well the battery life i don't know because i haven't killed it yet..... The battery meter goes up and down QUITE a bit though so i can't get a real good read on the battery gauge, which is kind of frustrating...
So far i've rooted and changed the boot animation with rom toolbox pro. I cannot get the stock lock screen clock and launcher to go away tho, even after changing the filenames in /System/App which leaves me boggled. I am running ADW and a large digital clock on my homescreen and would rather unlock to that then the analog clock.
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Thinking of buying this at Chinavasion for £92, Is it worth it and did you manage to do a review, Many thanks
Here ya go
http://youtu.be/NgHMAffmk9w
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Here ya go
http://youtu.be/NgHMAffmk9w
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What are its capabilities as far as connecting to a phone
Short review
I just received mine in the mail and must say, I'm pleasantly surprised. Build quality is excellent. The screen is bright and hires enough to be able to read everything. Wifi is stable and quite good, in contrary top most other China devices I have (mostly JXD). Of course the keyboard is a bit cramped and hitting the right letter is a gamble but the screen is sensitive and it doesn't take a strong touch.The interface is very smooth and responsive. I have installed a few apps which work well. The only thing that keeps crashing is Skype, which is weird as it came with the watch. There seems no way to use Google Now either (it keeps crashing) which is a pity as I don't want to even think about searching with the on-screen keyboard. The loudspeaker is okay (not great). I haven't tried using it to call anyone yet, that will be next on my list. I just noticed that the watch doesn't take micro sim cards. That quite surprising for such a small device. Now I'll have to go out and buy a regular sim card. I'm not a big fan of adapters.
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I just received mine in the mail and must say, I'm pleasantly surprised. Build quality is excellent. The screen is bright and hires enough to be able to read everything. Wifi is stable and quite good, in contrary top most other China devices I have (mostly JXD). Of course the keyboard is a bit cramped and hitting the right letter is a gamble but the screen is sensitive and it doesn't take a strong touch.The interface is very smooth and responsive. I have installed a few apps which work well. The only thing that keeps crashing is Skype, which is weird as it came with the watch. There seems no way to use Google Now either (it keeps crashing) which is a pity as I don't want to even think about searching with the on-screen keyboard. The loudspeaker is okay (not great). I haven't tried using it to call anyone yet, that will be next on my list. I just noticed that the watch doesn't take micro sim cards. That quite surprising for such a small device. Now I'll have to go out and buy a regular sim card. I'm not a big fan of adapters.
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It looks like a nice device I'm torn between buying this watch or just waiting around for the kickstart project Neptune Pine. Which seems to be a much more polished product
I'm also thinking about getting this or the neptune but the Pine looks so big it will make my already small wrists tiny!
I like the idea of the Pine but think I might go for the ZGPAX....
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What are its capabilities as far as connecting to a phone
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The thing is that its recognized by bluetooth as a phone so there is file transfer capability but not call handling or notification handling until the manufacturer releases an app to provide support for this... I would advise anyone who purchases to try and contact the manufacturer and get this info. Ive been looking a week now for an app in the store but have found nothing.
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hi bigbison
wait news thanks