Maybe I'm missing something but I've been reading change logs for Android 2.1 vs 1.6 and I don't really see what the big deal is.
Aside from someone posting that the battery life was a "zillion times better" I don't see anything that is going to improve my phone. Most of what's offered in 2.1 I've already gotten via 3rd party apps for 1.6.
Glad to hear about the "zillion times better" though, throwing out all of my chargers now Assuming most of us would place the fictitious "zillion" somewhere near a trilllion that would mean the battery should last 2.73790926 × 10^9 years. I'll probably change phones before charging again.
Seriously though, what does 2.1 really bring that the market apps don't?
more apps are supporting 2.0/2.1 and above only
Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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Hmmm I can't seem to install twitter. I wonder w... oh riiiight. 1.6.
More app compatibility plus faster OS plus better battery. No wonder we can't wait eh?
Well, some just don't know what they're missing until they've tried it.
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Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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Twitter sucks
Anyways, for me, the main thing would be more apps would be compatible with the phone! I've been dieing to try LauncherPro!
Another thing that was promised with the update was 720p Recording, and Live Wallpapers (which is also something else that i am excited for)!
Plus
- Full range of colors: 1.6 only has 65000 colors (16-bit), you can see the banding very visible in pictures and movies. With 2.1 we get full 16 million colors.
- Improved BT stack: with 2.1 we will be able to see contact and song names in the displays of our bundled MW600 headsets
Hopefully they've also finally addressed the low in-call volume issue.
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Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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Really? I want 2.1 for Twitter
You'll be waiting a long time dude because I wouldn't Twitter if Android 100.1 were out.
jerrytea said:
more apps are supporting 2.0/2.1 and above only
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True but apps that do what? Live wallpaper
Reeonimus said:
Hmmm I can't seem to install twitter. I wonder w... oh riiiight. 1.6.
More app compatibility plus faster OS plus better battery. No wonder we can't wait eh?
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I know ... what will I ever do not knowing the every thought of people that I don't care about
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Well, some just don't know what they're missing until they've tried it.
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Possibly true but you don't really point out "what" I'm missing?
shukla said:
Twitter sucks
Anyways, for me, the main thing would be more apps would be compatible with the phone! I've been dieing to try LauncherPro!
Another thing that was promised with the update was 720p Recording, and Live Wallpapers (which is also something else that i am excited for)!
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I can see 720p recording as a useful addition.
The offical twitter app isn't that good to me. I have tried and last I had it it would always load at the top of the list. Boo third party apps like seesmic and twitdeck have had this fuction for months. I do want to see the display difference in 2.1
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losdrivare said:
Plus
- Full range of colors: 1.6 only has 65000 colors (16-bit), you can see the banding very visible in pictures and movies. With 2.1 we get full 16 million colors.
- Improved BT stack: with 2.1 we will be able to see contact and song names in the displays of our bundled MW600 headsets
Hopefully they've also finally addressed the low in-call volume issue.
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AS to the colors I'm not really that excited but I don't really use the X10 for video. If you're a mobile video watcher then I can see why the video enhancement would be something to look forward to.
BT stack improvements would be welcomed but until I can BT voice dial I still won't be thrilled.
Funny thing about that in-call volume. When I use Google Voice the in-call volume is much much better ... no idea why.
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Do me a favour and go install the official Twitter app on your phone. I'll wait.
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BTW you know what's better than Twitter? Google Buzz.
That way, I can not only be inundated by useless thoughts I can also know exactly where they had the useless thought ... sweet.
So far:
Improved colors = useful for some to be sure.
720p video recording = I may use it from time to time.
Newer apps = Depends on what they do but I'm pretty happy with my 100 apps.
Improved BT stack = Yup but still want BT voice dial.
Better battery = Hard to really say unless someone with an X10 is running 2.1
Speed = Pretty fast already.
Twitter = No thanks.
Facebook = No thanks.
Social networking in general = No thanks (I actual reality network
My point wasn't to insult those waiting for 2.1 it was an honest question, "Am I missing something?". The improvements listed, for me, won't get me to upgrade.
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Hmmm I can't seem to install twitter. I wonder w... oh riiiight. 1.6.
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Twitter .. enough said already.
Are you really sure there is going to be a great battery improvement? Until 2.1 is running on the X10 you won't know for certain.
I do know that my extended battery has reallly worked out for me. I use the phone for all it's worth (except twitter) and I can go 14 hours and still have 60% remaining.
I will be happy when blue tooth handsfree calling actually works on my nokia car kit, i dont care what version of android it is, just bloody work!
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I will be happy when blue tooth handsfree calling actually works on my nokia car kit, i dont care what version of android it is, just bloody work!
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Yes, my only true desire.
I hope it works well with Google Voice since I have the option set to ask me if I want to use GV or a normal call. Guess I'll find out if 2.2 comes out from SE or the devs.
More RAM to play with and HTML5 support?
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I've been going through so many posts about the good an bad features of the X10 I thought maybe we should have a thread where we could actually agree on something?
If SE were to release a future device based on the X10, say the X20 what should they change?
I would say:
Give up a little sexy and go for a 1800-1900mAh battery.
USB connection on the bottom (docking station would be nice to use)
4.3 inch AMOLED screen (may help the battery issue right off the bat)
Front facing camera
Better battery cover (not sure how many times this one would come off before breaking one of those tiny tabs)
Android 2.2 at very least
Better colors .. Deep Red or Steel Blue. Yup, Pretty Pink for you ladies.
How could I forget, In-Call volume
i think x10 actually got the space to hold a bigger battery.
maybe SE just doesn't want to develope a new battery and simply give BTS-41 which is used on x1
the xperia x10 is a good device if you know how to use it. So far many of the problems have been fixed with third party add ons except for multi touch and the in call volume.
If the X10 2 does comes to Canada am going to my Rogers store and gonna ask for a discount.
vrs2610 said:
the xperia x10 is a good device if you know how to use it. So far many of the problems have been fixed with third party add ons except for multi touch and the in call volume.
If the X10 2 does comes to Canada am going to my Rogers store and gonna ask for a discount.
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Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
Multitouch is not an issue at all?? I have no idea why there are so many hung up on that. The one finger zoom looks to be a way better option.
Good luck getting a discount from Rogers. LOL
You guys forgot the most important thing...access to the bootloader .
Also, I've seen some aftermarket batteries for sale for the X10, I don't know if anyone here's tried them though...? I know there was an 1800mAh battery that is the same dimensions as the current 1500mAh one, and there was a 3600(?) mAh battery that needed a special case so it could fit.
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You guys forgot the most important thing...access to the bootloader .
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We have access to the bootloader.
The way I see it is that 1.6 is a great platform to learn from and work on. The x10 suffers from software flaws.. pretty much nobody will critisize the hardware capabilities of it. The x20 doesn't even have to be released, just an x10 with better software and way less bundled stuff like mox
ClintonH said:
Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
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My call volume hasn't gotten any better with the 023, rooted.
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I know there was an 1800mAh battery that is the same dimensions as the current 1500mAh one, and there was a 3600(?) mAh battery that needed a special case so it could fit.
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My 2600mAh Cameron Sino is on the way ... hope it's not TOO big.
yetep said:
The x20 doesn't even have to be released, just an x10 with better software and way less bundled stuff like mox
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Moxier was the first to go after the root was done.
I wanted to get rid of Timescape as well but a number of people have said they have messaging problems after removing it. I stop all Timscape activity with a Startup Auditor and that hasn't caused me any problems.
I don't call that improvement, i call that copy. Go get yourself a samsung.
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Izzy_Deadyet said:
Moxier was the first to go after the root was done.
I wanted to get rid of Timescape as well but a number of people have said they have messaging problems after removing it. I stop all Timscape activity with a Startup Auditor and that hasn't caused me any problems.
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Yeah taking out Timescape crashes messaging whenever I try to open pics or vids in MMS and also contacts when you try to open them. After a reinstall I have made peace with Timescape and Mediascape.
mackdaddy187 said:
Yeah taking out Timescape crashes messaging whenever I try to open pics or vids in MMS and also contacts when you try to open them. After a reinstall I have made peace with Timescape and Mediascape.
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Thanks for the info.
I have removed timescape, kept mediascape though, and I have absolutely no issues at all
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NightSidew1nd3r said:
I have removed timescape, kept mediascape though, and I have absolutely no issues at all
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I do have a backup, Titanium, so I suppose I could give it a try
Thanks
Izzy_Deadyet said:
I do have a backup, Titanium, so I suppose I could give it a try
Thanks
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Lol sorry to be the bearer of bad news.. but it won't work!!
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ClintonH said:
Incoming call volume is a none issue with mine after the 023 firware update.
Multitouch is not an issue at all?? I have no idea why there are so many hung up on that. The one finger zoom looks to be a way better option.
Good luck getting a discount from Rogers. LOL
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lol
Serious the in call volume increased
also I only miss multi touch cause you cant play the hige end games
And yeh Rogers is an ass but lets see, they did it for the G1 users so who knows
I would have:
- a back microphone (like the Nexus One) for background noise cancellation
- a Sony Ericsson original table stand (like the Aino)
- no cover over the USB connector
- USB connector not on the top of the device
- optical zoom
- a real flash
What I really don't miss:
- multitouch
- front camera
Mobzter said:
Lol sorry to be the bearer of bad news.. but it won't work!!
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I thought that TB backed up "everything" ?
The other thread has made me increasingly mental trying to find some decent information on what is working and what isn't working for SGS users upgrading to 2.3.2. I upgraded on Sunday evening without any issues and have been using it for the past 48hrs and have come across the following:
bad:
- no sip configuration options
- when integrated with MS exchange server, the unread count for emails never changes even after you read the mail
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
- no samsung apps available (probably because this isn't an official samsung release)
good:
- android market works fine for me in Switzerland
- GPS works well with all the different apps i have
- wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point
- FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
Overall I have been pleasantly surprised with this version. It's nice, although it's not an official release and is still leagues better than 2.1.x and 2.2. Would get a good argument from me about how it compares with 2.2.1..
gingerbread
its only a beta the official version will be better!
sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?
sdolgy said:
... wifi is interesting. it works, but i don't get full signal strength notification even when next to the access point...
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What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
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felleese said:
What makes the wifi interesting? Should it really be in 'Good' seeing as though you dont get full signal strength?
Thanks
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Well, for me, I am not downloading torrents on my phone. When I want to download, via wifi, apps from the market or something with dropbox, the wifi isn't not letting me down. I think there's a disconnect between what the graphic is reporting and the actual level.
It's good because it still works and is functional and allows me to keep using this on a daily basis despite its status.
jnks123 said:
its only a beta the official version will be better!
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no doubt. not at all complaining. just wanted to document on my side what was working and not working so that i can compare in the future or maybe someone has a suggestion .. like the one about my default internet browser and plugins.
cicer0 said:
Is this with plugins enabled or disabled (on demand)?
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Plugin setting is configured to "on demand"
Swype don't work.
GPS no satellites found.
Maybe we can compile a buglist?
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well its very early to give impression but its memory hungry battery hungry proned to black outs but to be honest when the bits all run nicely its good ive been running it over 24 hours now apart from mentioned problems its smooth looking forward to updates maybeys they will change ui and give us a few of the gingerbread goodies we all wanted ie tv of --3d apps screen and so on if you go settings then about and repeatadly press on version 2.3.2 i think about ten presses see gingerbreads easter egg at least they left us that lol enjoy egg hunting
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Thats a good idea.. Not only might it help Samsung, but it will discourage people from running it (and later whinging).
i got it running for a few hours and i generally enjoyed it, but the keyboard has no bulgarian (well it have in the options but it does not work) and if you run out of ram you are screwed (the phone hangs or gets tooo slow ).
as said samsung apps doesn`t work and the gallery freezes very often...
i hate that samsung removed the fancy animations and the black menu bar....
There's like no gingerbread keyboard and launcher
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1-3D performance
It's not as good as it was on 2.2.1. If you test some 3D games like NFS Shift, you culd see that it doesnt run so well as it did on 2.2.1
Some people even reports that they can’t even run lot of 3D games.
2-GPS
There are reports of a good gps performance, but I have read somewhere that it's contanstly throwing some kind of errors or bugs, I don't know how to check that. I guess they know it thanks to logcat or something like that.
According to what I could read on another forum they changed lot of gps files nad not is very similar to the ones of Nexus S, that's a good thing...
3-Keyboard
It’s also a shame that they didn’t include gingerboard keyboard…
PS: Some people might think that this thread isn’t useful, but as we are being kind of betatesters for Samsung it would be nice if we use this post only to report the most common bugs founds, so maybe Samsung could have a look at it and solve it faster.
sdolgy said:
- default internet browser is horrifically slow, even with no other apps running in the background
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Try to use supercurio kernel with voodoo lagfix enabled and it should solve the problem. Works for me when I used to have same internet browser issue like you
Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
hiraj_panosian said:
Skyfire is working very slow, I'm unable to watch ***videos
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Same here, it was so slow till i had to restart my i9000.
I've been using it for the last two days now (one of them with Supercurio's Voodoo Hack) and I've been happy with it in some parts, but quite unhappy in others.
Lag:
First of all, it seems the "Lag" that was fixed in 2.2.1 is back. Especially with memory-Hungry applications like the Browser, the phone tends to just freeze up for a few minutes without really doing much. I even had to pull the battery one time. This does happen less with the voodoo-fix, but it's still noticeable. Flash also does barely work.
Gingerbread features:
The new Gyroscope-Driver seems to work and it works really well. Skymap and Starchart both looked a LOT better when using them, no fidgeting around all the time anymore.
The new Gingerbread animations are NOT present in this rom. It seems like Samsung thinks they don't fit into TouchWiz, which is a shame. So no glowing edges when overscrolling and no screen-off or screen-on animation.
3D Performance pretty much seems to be the same as on 2.2.1 Games load a little slower, but I think that's mostly because we're using an un-optimized kernel.
The Bluetooth-Driver unfortunately still is the same as in Previous versions. So Neither Wiiremote nor PS3 will pair with the SGS, unlike on Cyanogenmod.
Samsung-Stuff:
As was stated before, Swype does not work. However, I am in the Swype beta and was able to install the Beta of Swype into this rom after deleting the normal swype with root explorer. It works fine, even Voice input does work.
All in all, it is clear that this is beta-firmware and it doesn't really offer much in terms of improvement over 2.2.1, at least not yet. Cyanogenmod 7, even tho it supports less hardware and is more unstable, runs a LOT faster and smoother than this, is more customizable and uses more of the new Gingerbread features.
For now, I'll be going back to 2.2.1, it's more useful as a daily driver, but this at least looks promising so far.
Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
Well considering this is a beta it seems alot of the features that are suppose to be in the final build are here left out. That will give the reason for quite some things missing ( some animations, effects, lock screens, keyboards....) Plus also cause of the beta build maybe even alpha who knows, the performance for me is really bad, it feels twice as laggy compared to the 2.2.1 releases. All in all this build is an striped down, not optimized build for the samsung devs i guess. We will have to wait for a better build leak. Cheers !
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Reverting back to 2.2.1. 2.3.2 is way too slow.
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Agreed, I switched back to JS5, but for the moment I'm keeping JVE modem. It performs WAY better for me. No random UMTS-disconnects.
But as others said, it's just a beta.
sdolgy said:
FM radio, the most used app i have continues to work nicely
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Is it stereo ?
In my urge to find something "different" I'm considering purchasing an X10, but all the reviews say it's just terrible...
Honestly, how bad can it be? Is this just tainted blood from when it was first released on 1.6? Am I wrong in thinking that it's a very usable device, either with the latest updates, or on a rom from the dev section?
I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
What do you mean the screen is bad? Response or the image on the screen?
pngface said:
I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
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The screen isnt that bad at all. And theres always gonna be better devices for the same price no matter what device you have. There are better devices, but how much are you willing to spend?
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Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
ClubDownforce said:
Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
clixt said:
I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
Camera, signal, and battery life are just fine. It's not the fastest phone. It's still pretty laggy even when optimized. Things should really improve with the 2.3 upgrade but even with that, there are faster, more powerful, and featured phones out there.
For the average smartphone user, the major downside to this phone is the low in call volume. I've had to purchase a bluetooth speakerphone for the car (which is great actually). Taking a call in a loud environment is awful.
ClubDownforce said:
I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
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Id say go for it. You dont sound to demanding, and you dont sound like you need the best of the best. The X10 is pretty pleasing in my experience.
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I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.
The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.
I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
clixt said:
Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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What were the colors originally
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.
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Willey1986 said:
If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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What were the colors originally
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Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
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OmegaRED^ said:
It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
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Just a video I stumbled across on the upcoming update. It's in Hebrew but at least we can see the performance improvements the update will bring at least.
check it out for yourselves.
http://www7.zippyshare.com/v/82662159/file.html
For the lazy ones that wanna watch it without leaving the page
its like someone took android and flipped it horizontally...
Meraklis56 said:
its like someone took android and flipped it horizontally...
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its because the locale is set to hebrew, because they write and read from right to left instead of from left to right.
ehh, im not as excited as before 2.1 came out still...
does the owner of this phone in the video not realise they should drop the system dump on xda !
love the video
it llooks real can't wait , it runs soo damn smooth , it was worth the wait and i think its probly not the final final finalized update they probly still tweaking bbut man i think who ever got there hands on this leaked it out ,am so amazed by how smooth and the responds so good , by them doing a review mean its gona be here probly next week cause its the last week of july
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He says that the update will start to roll out THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!
Another intresting thing he says is the better battery life, and better call quality
The rest review is just explanation of the plain all things we already know of like the Arc launcher, and the 2.3 update which brings apps2sd and thethering Etc.
elady58 said:
He says that the update will start to roll out THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!
Another intresting thing he says is the better battery life, and better call quality
The rest review is just explanation of the plain all things we already know of like the Arc launcher, and the 2.3 update which brings apps2sd and thethering Etc.
Another intresting thing he mentioned is the
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the the THE THE wht?
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elady58 said:
He says that the update will start to roll out THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!
Another intresting thing he says is the better battery life, and better call quality
The rest review is just explanation of the plain all things we already know of like the Arc launcher, and the 2.3 update which brings apps2sd and thethering Etc.
Another intresting thing he mentioned is the
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What???? Oh man, you can't end a post like that!
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What???? Oh man, you can't end a post like that!
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Deleted the last paragraph
was a mistake
But I'm sure the rest is enough, isn't it?
this week... this week... i will be in journey without access to web and computer! damnit!
i won't update right after it comes out... because if the superoneclick will be outdated then we're doomed for about another week
i need a mirror to see the video properly
by video some np to final conclusions
no 16 m colors
no multi touch
no fps cap
same crapy 2.1 i mean 2.3.3
our 2.2 custom roms specially MIUI are much faster then this one
i am just waiting for a full working MIUI 2.3.3 ROM
elady58 said:
He says that the update will start to roll out THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!
Another intresting thing he says is the better battery life, and better call quality
The rest review is just explanation of the plain all things we already know of like the Arc launcher, and the 2.3 update which brings apps2sd and thethering Etc.
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welll!!! this weekend is in 4 days we will see ,that would be amazin if the battery life is much better that was the number on problem for the x1o
kunalgahlot said:
i need a mirror to see the video properly
by video some np to final conclusions
no 16 m colors
no multi touch
no fps cap
same crapy 2.1 i mean 2.3.3
our 2.2 custom roms specially MIUI are much faster then this one
i am just waiting for a full working MIUI 2.3.3 ROM
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?? it seems fast actually...
did you watch the vid?
kunalgahlot said:
i need a mirror to see the video properly
by video some np to final conclusions
no 16 m colors
no multi touch
no fps cap
same crapy 2.1 i mean 2.3.3
our 2.2 custom roms specially MIUI are much faster then this one
i am just waiting for a full working MIUI 2.3.3 ROM
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No fps cap good thing the other 2 you cant realy observe from the video
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i really hope for better call quality because that, in my opinion, is the #1 reason wrong with x10. it SUCKS as a phone.
rtblittlebrown said:
No fps cap good thing the other 2 you cant realy observe from the video
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Why no FPS is good thing...anyways i guess we can remove that on our own now
no 16 M colors..you can see the diff with 65k and 16 m colors on a youtube video
no multitouch..had their been multitouch the guy would have SHOWN IT
ROM seems to be bit laggy specially while switching screens and turning on from a black screen,but yeah faster than 2.1 official
well... from what I have seen in this video must admit that this will be the first usable ''out-of-the-box'' firmware ever made by SE, so in conclusion, let the Devs make their job and we can enjoy our x10's as it was ment to be enjoyed ;-)
I'm with Vodafone UK and PC Companion will now give us the official firmware update even though OTA will not.
It is still 2.3.3 but definately brings some new cool things. Here is what i've found so far.
UI Changes -
1) Finally we have landscape mode for the home pages. Unfortunately it only goes to landscape if you slide the phone open, it wont switch to landscape for me by rotating the phone. Cool nevertheless.
2) Smoother menu scrolling. Well it seems alot smoother for me anyway.
3) Themes - Basic bog standard themes, but they change the colours of all the menus etc. I didnt have this before the update, i am sure of it. (maybe my memory is wrong though).
4) New Timeout animation. It look cool ! Like an old CRT television turning off with the horizontal line disapearing into a small dot.
5) My keyboard no longer behaves erratically. For example, pressing "p" regularly printed a "Q" and a "P" for me. (pressing the right hand side of the screen in landscape mode activated the right and left hand side for some strange reason!). Very nice for me !
Settings Changes -
1) XLoud (found in the settings, sound menu). Apparently this does something to the speakers. Made ZERO difference for me. Mine was massively loud anyway, so i am guessing mine were already set up this way.
2) New silent mode in settings, sound (under XLoud). "All sounds except media & Alarms"
3) "X" takes pictures !!!!!! Now no need for camera mod, unless you want to use "R" trigger instead of "X". Me personally, will use "X". Great work by the camera mod dev anyway.
Apps and Software Additions -
1) Data Monitor Widget - It will only measure 3g, not WiFi, but i guess this is all we need. The widget definately looks cool. Now my main data monitor.
2) Qriocoty - A downloadable movies and videos app. You can either rent or buy.
3) WisePilot - Not sure if this is better than the navigation, i will test it next time i am on the road.
4) NeoReader - Bog standard barcode scanner
5) Store - Re-hash of market place i think. Not sure.
Who wants to add to things i have missed? There must be other stuff we have got?
dsswoosh said:
UI Changes -
4) New Timeout animation. It look cool ! Like an old CRT television turning off with the horizontal line disapearing into a small dot.
Settings Changes -
3) "X" takes pictures !!!!!! Now no need for camera mod, unless you want to use "R" trigger instead of "X". Me personally, will use "X". Great work by the camera mod dev anyway.
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Is there a way to disable the Timeout animation? I never really liked it in custom ROMs.
Also, to use the X we'll have to slide out the gamepad, we had to know SE would make it annoying before making it easier.
Lastly, thanks a lot of the list. Now I know what to expect and hope for it to reach my carrier soon.
Hasn't X always taken the picture? I can remember doing it on 2.3.2.
JasonG_ said:
Hasn't X always taken the picture? I can remember doing it on 2.3.2.
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Yes,it was there the whole time. Been using it since I got my Play.
and 2.3.3? Isn't this 2.3.4? I'm on 2.3.3 and don't have that new xLoud feature :S
2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity
subcu1ture said:
2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity
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I kinda worries me how xloud makes the speakers even louder, I remember there used to be jailbreak apps for the iphone which forced the speakers to go louder and on alot of peoples phones it would either break or ruin the speakers if used for too long.
anyway the xperia plays speakers are loud enough as it is
subcu1ture said:
2.3.4 isn't out till September.
It is SE system software update not android.
xLoud has been amazing, I used to think my play was loud but now it is actually like have a good portable speaker system.
There are also a few new widgets like Weather and Fav contacts
extension search app for timescape.
I don't have Qriocity
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It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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bubblegumballon said:
I kinda worries me how xloud makes the speakers even louder, I remember there used to be jailbreak apps for the iphone which forced the speakers to go louder and on alot of peoples phones it would either break or ruin the speakers if used for too long.
anyway the xperia plays speakers are loud enough as it is
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That was a hack made by the dev community, i doubt sony would release an update that could damage there phone, leaving them open to thousands of warrenty claims
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netorino said:
Is there a way to disable the Timeout animation? I never really liked it in custom ROMs.
Also, to use the X we'll have to slide out the gamepad, we had to know SE would make it annoying before making it easier.
Lastly, thanks a lot of the list. Now I know what to expect and hope for it to reach my carrier soon.
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Disable animations in display settings
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X button for shutter has always been there even in 2.3.2, and Data Monitor Widget was always there too ever since 2.3.2. Great list though. Still waiting for OTA... Hopefully...
narflynn619 said:
X button for shutter has always been there even in 2.3.2, and Data Monitor Widget was always there too ever since 2.3.2. Great list though. Still waiting for OTA... Hopefully...
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I dont about you, but our region only got data monitor in latest update .........
i have uk generic..
Maybe I'm blind but I don't have Data Monitor on GenericWorld? Is someone kind enough to pull it from /system/app? You don't need root.
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Blagus said:
Maybe I'm blind but I don't have Data Monitor on GenericWorld? Is someone kind enough to pull it from /system/app? You don't need root.
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You can get it from the market m8, its in the sony ericsson apps
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sonyericsson.android.datamonitor
AndroHero said:
You can get it from the market m8, its in the sony ericsson apps
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sonyericsson.android.datamonitor
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Really! Thanks
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Really! Thanks
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Your welcome! Anytime
UK generic I updated. And to say its pure awesome. Great work by SE everything is lot smoother now (time scape) . any of you know is there a way to root?
AndroHero said:
It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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I have my bootloader unlocked and qriocity works fine, also my track id and timescape works fine which I also heard dont work,
Would there be a reason I have still have this working
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I was wondering whether this update would delete all the apps I have downloaded? The last firmware update didn't seem to have affected any of my apps, so I'm hoping this one wouldn't either
AndroHero said:
It dosent have to be a new version of android for sony to add features qriocity wont work with an unlocked bootloader btw
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Yep that is what i said in my post...
Also my bootloader is still locked. I actually like the features of FiX for music etc.
Strange that I don't have Qriocity though because it is available in my region and I have a Qriocity account.
Wonder why this is...