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I'm not a huge fan.

Ever since about 2005 I have not been a huge fan of Sprints customer service. They have gotten too corporate and do not care for the individual customer anymore. I have been with them since late 1994. My dad put his business through Sprint and he isn't one to jump around.
Well, this Christmas I have to applaud them. My phone was stolen on the 23rd because I gave a homeless man a ride to a shelter nearby and he took my phone when getting out.
I called Sprint to have my phone tracked, but I didn't have that service on my phone, even though every phone with gps is capable, I just didn't pay the premium. They sent me to Assurian who overnighted an Evo to me.
My Evo is my life and the fact they sent it overnight amazes me. Sprint partnered up with a great company for insurance. If you aren't currently paying for insurance on your phone, I suggest you do. They're miracle workers.
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I would change your title...it's completely misleading. Sounds like you're quite impressed.
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hope you learned your lesson lol, theyre homeless for a reason!

Now that dude has all your porn and contacts. You're a perfect candidate for TotalCare or Where's my Droid.
Go check it out on the market. You'll thank me for it!

admorris said:
I would change your title...it's completely misleading. Sounds like you're quite impressed.
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Well, if you read, I'm not impressed with Sprint. I'm applauding their partners. I'm not a huge Texas rangers fan, but they did an amazing job this year. I've taken some journalism classes, sorry that my title pulled you in. That's what you want from your article.
And I had lookout, which is just like find my Droid, but I was afraid it was draining my battery too much due to it backing up my pictures and contacts. Thankfully it did though.700 pictures are back on my phone.
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ceg1792 said:
Well, if you read, I'm not impressed with Sprint. I'm applauding their partners. This is in general for a reason. My title could be free sex, wouldn't change the generality of my post.
And I had lookout, which is just like find my Droid, but I was afraid it was draining my battery too much due to it backing up my pictures and contacts. Thankfully it did though.700 pictures are back on my phone.
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Boooohoooooo
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Boooohoooooo
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This is exactly why I don't come into general talk. Just a bunch of ignorant folk.
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ceg1792 said:
This is exactly why I don't come into general talk. Just a bunch of ignorant folk.
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You are ignorant. No detail or explanation to go with why Sprint customer service is awful.
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You are ignorant. No detail or explanation to go with why Sprint customer service is awful.
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This isn't about their customer service, there are plenty of threads about that.
Do you even read? Damn.
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ceg1792 said:
This isn't about their customer service, there are plenty of threads about that.
Do you even read? Damn.
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What are you not a huge fan of?
Just change the title to "wonderful insurance practices."
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The title does not have to deal with the piece! It's simply the attention grabber.
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ceg1792 said:
The title does not have to deal with the piece! It's simply the attention grabber.
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Well I apologize. Glad you had a great experience with the phone replacement procedures.
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well if you think sprint's has bad cs then i suggest u stay away from ANY of the major carriers except for us cellular because sprint was moved to a tie with verizon in cs ahead of everyone else

drksilenc said:
well if you think sprint's has bad cs then i suggest u stay away from ANY of the major carriers except for us cellular because sprint was moved to a tie with verizon in cs ahead of everyone else
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Sprint takes great pride in their CS and there will be a TON of changes coming in 2011 for CS, trust me on this. They should be overtaking Verizon and USC as long as these plans are implemented and rolled out correctly, which as you've seen it's been working. 10+ quarters of improved customer service, the only company to do so.
Unfortunately, as much as we would LOVE for customer service to be perfect, it is after all ran by HUMANS who, like all of us, have issues. You will NEVER find a customer service center without plenty of individuals who just really don't care. The day that companies start paying hefty wages for their representatives and have more than 1 supervisor per 15 agents is the day customer service for companies will excel. Now, the ratio of people with issues vs people without issues is very low so this will never happen.
I love my Bright House cable/internet. Sometimes when I call it's great, sometimes I just want to stab the person on the other end. It is customer service at all companies. By the way, Asurion also deals with T-Mobile, Verizon and AT&T, as well as plenty of other providers. Some people hate it, some don't. You don't mind as you are one of the few that understand deductibles. Those who don't understand deductibles have MAJOR issues. www.phoneclaim.com/Sprint - order there and your order is always overnighted, as long as it's in before 11pm.

I love Sprint, but with customer service they used to be king. Extend payment, give us the service best for our business, and just all in all be great.
My dads cheap cell didn't support sms, but they kept him on unlimited text and wouldn't switch him off due to some technicality.
The week the Evo came out, my dad decided he wanted one. They sent us three, no waiting the huge list. Last month I had to pay the bill because they wouldn't extend payment for my dads business. He is a contractor and had not been paid, so couldn't pay. They used to let him be a month or two behind. They're great at treating us, just give us bad service at times. I realize it is certain reps that just don't care and shouldn't reflect the company as a whole, but I've been quite dissatisfied as of late. They could have easily tracked my phone, I just didn't pay them for the service so they did not.
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Thank you for the link, sir. I actually work for ATT and deal with call center reps daily. I normally try speaking with the supervisor, but my mother deals with the Sprint reps and I hardly handle it. I just always get calls from her explaining how horrid the service is. My one time with them was pretty bad. The Evo they sent was supposed to be activated, Assurion stated so, it was not. I called and had to speak with several different reps who could not figure out why my phone was not working properly after activation. When speaking with the fourth rep, I asked if they had unlocked my phone yet. They had locked it because it was stolen. They had not and whenever she unlocked it my phone worked perfectly. That was just a mistake, I was not upset about it.
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DirtyShroomz said:
Unfortunately, as much as we would LOVE for customer service to be perfect, it is after all ran by HUMANS who, like all of us, have issues. You will NEVER find a customer service center without plenty of individuals who just really don't care. The day that companies start paying hefty wages for their representatives and have more than 1 supervisor per 15 agents is the day customer service for companies will excel. Now, the ratio of people with issues vs people without issues is very low so this will never happen.
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I'd like to take a moment to point out that this may be true with regards to cell phone customer support or other types of customer support, but not with where I work.
Now, the customers we support are primarily IT administrators of some degree, and a large part of our clientele is enterprise-level, so maybe it's different here. We're all paid well. Our front line manager supervises 12 reps, and the tier 2 and 3 supervisors manage 5-7 people. That number gets even lower as you move up to escalation or our diamond level of support (who don't really need supervision anyway).
Anyway, I just thought I should defend my line of work. Not all customer support is hit or miss.

ceg1792 said:
I love Sprint, but with customer service they used to be king. Extend payment, give us the service best for our business, and just all in all be great.
My dads cheap cell didn't support sms, but they kept him on unlimited text and wouldn't switch him off due to some technicality.
The week the Evo came out, my dad decided he wanted one. They sent us three, no waiting the huge list. Last month I had to pay the bill because they wouldn't extend payment for my dads business. He is a contractor and had not been paid, so couldn't pay. They used to let him be a month or two behind. They're great at treating us, just give us bad service at times. I realize it is certain reps that just don't care and shouldn't reflect the company as a whole, but I've been quite dissatisfied as of late. They could have easily tracked my phone, I just didn't pay them for the service so they did not.
Their service is now no good because they wont let your dad pay two months late??
Too many people mistake good customer service with stupid business prectices.
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No, customer service is serving the customer for their every needs.
Them extending my payment date is good customer service because that is what I, the customer, wants.
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sprint sucks
evo= win

HTC: We will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices.

For those of you preparing to make the jump from the HEROCs that have served us well, the dev community has claimed a victory today!
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
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http://www.facebook.com/HTC/posts/10150307320018084
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The homebrew community may mourn HTC's Thunderbolt, Incredible S, Sensation and EVO 3D, but the company's controversial policy of locking bootloaders is no more. Following a tease yesterday, HTC CEO Peter Chou has decreed from on high -- namely, HTC's Facebook page -- that future devices will be open.
We're holding out hope that this policy will also be retroactive, but this is very welcome news regardless. Ball's in your court, Motorola.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/htc-officially-dissolves-locked-bootlader-policy/

Hopefully they include the EVO 3D, and not start with all devices released after..
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It's comforting to know that corporations are capable of listening to the needs of their customers at this level

kyouko said:
Hopefully they include the EVO 3D
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They did!!!

Holy **** thats amazing! I will never buy a different manufacturer. That was fast, and impressive. You got a link on that evo 3d confirmed?

I got an email back from Peter Chuo, unlocked 3D, I'll upload it later. I wonder how they'll do it? Release the key, our OTA, that is the question...

Here's the email

"Reduce the potential quality problem that might occur when users upgrade their phone"..... what a crock. I appreciate that they unlocked them but wheres the honesty? They didn't want home brew devs dipping into their sauce anymore. Same reason they won't release drivers. Makes me wonder if the 3d drivers will be opened or not, if so then we'll be in the same situation with s0bes kernel now. The whole reason I want that phone is the 3d cam duh. Guess we'll see right?
®patience is a virtue©

they will probably alwasy have proprietary drivers because sense is there baby and will never be open source.
without sense htc would be the same as everyone else.

il Duce said:
Here's the email
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I just replied to him asking about the encrypted kernel and recovery, and whether those too would be unlocked. I assume so, but I am curious. I guess technically it won't matter because if the bootloader is s-off we can do whatever we want anyway

this puts the 3d right back at the top of my list.. come september when my rebate is due, boom more htc goodness.. this is why i have stuck by them for my past 4 phones..

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this puts the 3d right back at the top of my list.. come september when my rebate is due, boom more htc goodness.. this is why i have stuck by them for my past 4 phones..
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If you're interested in trying to get an early upgrade, check out a thread in the EVO 3D General forums titled "Absolutely fantastic customer service from Sprint". It seems Sprint is offering a one time manual override of your upgrade date. I've been sitting on an upgrade for 6 months so I can't personally confirm, but the 25+ replies to the thread all confirm the op's results.
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The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle said:
If you're interested in trying to get an early upgrade, check out a thread in the EVO 3D General forums titled "Absolutely fantastic customer service from Sprint". It seems Sprint is offering a one time manual override of your upgrade date. I've been sitting on an upgrade for 6 months so I can't personally confirm, but the 25+ replies to the thread all confirm the op's results.
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I can confirm the above.
I initially called Sprint because I wanted to prepare for the release of the EVO 3D. I did not want to pay anything more than New Customer Pricing. I was prepared to cancel the contracts of each of the two lines on my account. The Contracts for the account expire in Oct 2011, so the ETF for each line would be $50. The beautiful part is at a certain point before the contract expires, the ETF flat lines at $50 and you have bargaining power if you can accept the fee.
I called Sprint and advised what I was trying to do. I told them that I wanted new customer pricing and I was willing to cancel my account and go elsewhere if I needed to. I really didn't want to leave Sprint, but you got to play hardball. I was transferred to the Retention department to handle my case after I mentioned the Hot Button word "Cancel", but I wasn't actually ready to cancel, just asking questions. I guess they don't mess around when you say this. After the rep clairified what it was that I was trying to do and after clairifying that I was doing this for a phone that was comming soon, she flagged my account for new customer picing which to my surprise, is virtually the same pricing someone within the upgrade period is given. I was not aware Sprint was doing this as it hadn't always been this way. The rep advised that it would take a few days to take effect. I asked her to ensure it was set for both lines. The rep advised that she would send the request to her supervisor and that I should receive a confirmation email within a few days. I asked the rep "If it's approved, does this mean that I can go anywhere (ex: Best Buy, Radio Shack, Sprint Store, etc.)?". The rep replied "It's not a matter of IF, it WILL be approved, and yes you can go anywhere just like a new Customer.". I excitedly thanked the rep and advised her that I love Sprint and would be happy to be a customer for life with such a high level of Customer service.
A few days had passed and I hadnt recieved an email with confirmation. I was a little disappointed, but not surprised as these things happen. I called in again and asked the first rep to verify that both phones qualified for Upgrade/New Customer pricing. The rep confirmed that it was all set. I felt a little hesitant, I wanted to be sure. Nothing worse than waiting till launch day to be dissapointed. I ran across an article on Engadget that showed Best Buy started doing upgrade checks on their Best Buy Mobile site. I dont know if this is new or something that's been possible for awhile. I felt that checking upgrade eligibility via a 3rd Party on not through Sprint directly was the best way to Validate. I went to http://www.bestbuymobile.com/upgradechecker, typed in my details and voila, I'm good to go and ready to fly on launch day. Now, to figure out when EXACTLY that will be.

i dont understand why everyone still hates on sprint customer service yall have no idea how good they are compared to tmobile trust me i know it was the worst experience ever when i tried to cancel my contract with them they just did not care at all even though i had service with them for 4 years and had a mytouch with them for a year with unlimited everything. so i switch to sprint and it was life changeing i actually had 3g at my house lol.
sorry for starting to ramble but yall have no idea how much i despise tmo.

I'm going to attempt this rebate reset tomorrow potentially.. will post results..i have always had good fortune with Sprint anyway so hopefully it will pay off here..
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Yeah, I know what you mean.. I had an issue with them in 05 with a hurricane that hit my area. There was no tmo cel service here for over a month and they refused to credit me. So did the supervisors. I straight out said, just cancel me. It was because principle more than anything.
Been w sprint ever since.

Its best this way

killabee44 said:
Yeah, I know what you mean.. I had an issue with them in 05 with a hurricane that hit my area. There was no tmo cel service here for over a month and they refused to credit me. So did the supervisors. I straight out said, just cancel me. It was because principle more than anything.
Been w sprint ever since.
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I was also in the '05 hurricane area and Sprint gave me a free month.

The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle said:
If you're interested in trying to get an early upgrade, check out a thread in the EVO 3D General forums titled "Absolutely fantastic customer service from Sprint". It seems Sprint is offering a one time manual override of your upgrade date. I've been sitting on an upgrade for 6 months so I can't personally confirm, but the 25+ replies to the thread all confirm the op's results.
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so totally called that number, and they reset 2 of the lines on my account to june 1st.. my other line just upgraded in february, so they couldnt on it.. but moved the other 2 from september until june 1st.. so i am rather pleased.. everyone should give it a go..

pstevep said:
so totally called that number, and they reset 2 of the lines on my account to june 1st.. my other line just upgraded in february, so they couldnt on it.. but moved the other 2 from september until june 1st.. so i am rather pleased.. everyone should give it a go..
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Does that work for ONLY pre-ordering the Evo 3D?

4g upgrade FYI

I called and complained to Verizon about the LTE upgrade and the woman was very nice and sent me a box. I just dropped my xoom off at FedEx to head in for upgrade. Maybe if you call they will do the same or I just got lucky. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up!
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So what's the end result? When do you get your Xoom back?

I called and they didn't offer anything. 6 1/2 months and still nothing!!!

4g is no good for me Verizon doesn't even have it here in the part of georgia i live in..yet they have it in Atlanta..sucks...oh well.Then when i asked them when it would be available in my area they said have no idea...argh

The retention rep pretended to be out of the office when I called.

Got it back yesterday, all is good, was wiped clean, not any real changes I can see. I'm in the Tampa market and I can say Verizon 4g kicks sprints 4gs ass hard. If I could get my unlimited sprint plans on Verizon I would change today.
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Got pics for proof?
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Got pics for proof?
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Wow, really?! No smiley or anything? You think he's just plain lying?

If this were the Moto support forums, I'd want to see pics too because it gets pretty deep over there. This site does not truck with BS artists and those things have a way of working themselves out here. I trust the OP more than the whole batch of Motoxprts combined. (They aren't all pieces of crap but they had a bit of a credibility problem for a while there. I can understand the caution, but I'm content with the OP's statement.)
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"Caroline" Verizon customer service ID 2047489
Im calling BS till Pictures are shown of the upgraded device. I spoke with both Motorola and Verizon yesterday for approximately an hour each, Supervisors in customer retention et cetra, they sure were not offering to send a box to my door to ship it to moto for a upgrade (I know, I asked) spoke to "Caroline" Verizon customer service ID 2047489 and her supervisor. Try giving them a call their as clueless as the deceptive Motorola staff.

i already have a box for a different issue. You think if I send it in they will fix it and throw the lte upgrade in for the heck of it?

How about going into settings and getting a pic of u holding up ur 4g upgraded xoom. Where it shows the build and version. The reason it's hard to believe is that so many of us have called and gotten no box to ship ours out. I have called and gone to every vzw store within 150 miles. None of them have had a xoom upgraded yet. As far as I'm concerned motor can send my 2 4g cards to my door! The damn bionic is crap! Why would I trust a cheap tech to put my cards in without screwing them up?
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As soon as I figure out how to get a pic on here I will. I just called and said I was told I was getting a box to send it in. The person didn't have a clue what I was talking about and got a supervisor that did know, she apologized and sent me a box, it was that easy. She probably wasn't suppose to do it but all Verizon employees and Verizon contractors as well as fortune 500 customers have all received the upgrade. It does exist.
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i find it interesting that verizon would offer to send you a box since, to the best of my knowledge, motorola is the one performing the upgrade?
not calling BS, just a little odd that vzw would be sending it.

I work for Verizon Wireless Corp here in Lansing Michigan as a retail sales rep. I had sent my xoom tablet in a couple of weeks ago during an Employee Only offering to test the process of upgrades to the Motorola Xoom. The whole process took about 4 days including the ordering of the box they send you. Was kinda hesitant due to the fact that I really customized alot of settings ... apps that arent avail any more..etc., So I sent it in without backing anything up (took a "Big" risk of losing my stuff), once I got it back my xoom had plastic protection on the screen , documentation of what was installed and a new build number " HLK42B ". Once I turned my device back on with fingers crossed.... all of my apps, movies, settings everything was how i left It. Was very satisfied with the care they took and notifing me along the way by email once recieved, completed , and sent from repair location. The 4G in my area is beyong what I expected. For those on the fence well worth sending it in.
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For those on the fence well worth sending it in.
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If I only could!!!!! I've been waiting 7 months!

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If I only could!!!!! I've been waiting 7 months!
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Lol I'm with you on that one.

I call BS on the OP unless he's a Verizon employee, which it doesn't sound like.
Been a member on the forums since 2008 and still doesn't know how to attach a pic...lol?
Oh well, we're still waiting. I've called, gone into Stores, came out with diddly. Sent a complaint to the State Attorney General of Oregon about it to see if that expedites anything.
And the Fortune 500 Customer thing doesn't make sense to me. I'm an IBM employee, have my IBM discount, last I checked we were at #18 on the Fortune 500 list. I get no preferential treatment....weird

I still have my March 4th email promising the 4G upgrade " Coming Soon ". I don't think anyone would agree that 7 months was soon.

I just got off the phone with Motorola Support (800-734-5870). They still told me end of this month. I very politely asked him to look at the nearest calendar and tell me what date it says...these guys are idiots and MOT is a joke.

My Sprint "Experience"

Ok, So I am incredibly unsatisfied with Sprint's service as of late. I purchased the Epic 4g Touch and experienced the dreaded "Loss Of Service" bug frequently. I was within my 14 day return limit so I went into the Visalia California Sprint Store to swap out for a different model (namely the Evo 3d which I traded in for the e4gt). I also signed 5 of my friends up with sprint as well and 2 of them got the e4gt and had the same exact issues. They convinced me to try a replacement and assured me that if it still experienced that bug I could return it within 14 days of receiving the replacement phone. The replacement phone was worse than the one I had originally and lost service every hour. I missed several calls from work leaving my employer under the impression I was angry and ignoring her and almost cost me my job. So I went in to the Visalia California store yet again to get a replacement model. I spoke with the same woman that convinced me to get the replacement model (She was also the manager) and she stated that the device was out of its 14 days since the FIRST device and that I couldn't get a different model (see what she did there?). So I went home and called Sprint off of another line and spent 4 hours total on hold. I hung up and called Sprint tech support and after running tests and walking me through updates and such the rep spoke with a manager on his end and concluded that I needed a different model of phone. He stated that he would note that down in the ticket and to go into the Visalia California store and they would give me a different model. So I went in to the store and spoke with the manager yet again. This time after reading the ticket she became rude and uncivil stating that the ticket says "customer needs to try a different model of phone" and that they didn't have to provide it for me and that even if it did, corporate cannot make them give me a different model. The whole time I was civil and polite but my frustration was building. I drove an hour to the Sprint store in Fresno only to find out that Visalia had to handle my case and that they could not even replace it with the same model. So I found a man on craigslist and traded it for a Nexus S 4g. I plan on paying out my contract asap and switching to Verizon. They know how to treat a customer.
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I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure since you live in the state of California you have up to 30-days to return a device and not 14 like other states.

i was told 14.

This thread should be titled “my Samsung experience.”
Welcome to Samsung. You have been initiated.

*nevermind*

read your local laws, scan or photo them, and send them to sprint. I have been a customer since 1999 and they would NEVER pull this poo with me. I threaten them every time I am on the phone, you'll get what you want, ask for the account retention department...

Wait what the hell? Verizon and AT&T both limit your data now? WTF I cant do that God they are sooo lucky I need a phone. So I get a choice between sh*tty customer service and sh*tty cellphone service... I can't live in this world anymore

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This thread should be titled “my Samsung experience.”
Welcome to Samsung. You have been initiated.
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I don't see how it's Samsung's fault when Sprint refused to exchange the device even after his account was noted.

Longcat14 said:
I don't see how it's Samsung's fault when Sprint refused to exchange the device even after his account was noted.
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Because Samsung phones have constant issues....
The Bird is the Word

Babydoll25 said:
Because Samsung phones have constant issues....
The Bird is the Word
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Ah. Loving my Nexus S. I've taken a vow to only use nexus phones from now on.
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Longcat14 said:
I don't see how it's Samsung's fault when Sprint refused to exchange the device even after his account was noted.
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hi... I do not know much about sprint...I have heard of it for the first time... Can you tell me about it...!

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hi... I do not know much about sprint...I have heard of it for the first time... Can you tell me about it...!
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Read the first post. All you need to know
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sprint is fine, i work for them, it's just you always get the a**holes at some sprint stores, i would never treat a customer like that, let alone lead them in the wrong direction just for a commissioned pay, that's probably why that manager did that, but anywho, don't be mad at sprint, i'm sure you experience will get better with them, my parents have been with them for 15 years+ and never had an issue, and i've been with them for about 5 or 6 under my parents account, they have good service, just right now it's kinda hard keeping everyone happy while doing a MASSIVE network upgrade, but some people are impatient, but trust me sprint is the way to go
P.S. from reading your post, the initial issue does sound like it was the phone itself, you should have gotten something else, and don't bother with the 3d unless you can return it, i'm using it now, low signal strength, i would recommend the Photon (also own) the signal strength and radios in that phone are the strongest i've ever seen in any phone out there

buy your phone at target next time they have way better deals than sprint company stores and do a 30 day exchange period.. i work at a target mobile, we will treat you right,

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buy your phone at target next time they have way better deals than sprint company stores and do a 30 day exchange period.. i work at a target mobile, we will treat you right,
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I was thinking bestbuy.. there's no deposit on their insurance
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Target offers an insurance similiar to best buys black tie for 7.99 monthly or 179.99 one time payment coverage for two years,
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timinator94 said:
i was told 14.
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Wow, they change their terms.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/returns/
Was 30 in PA. Not sure what it is anymore.
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Target offers an insurance similiar to best buys black tie for 7.99 monthly or 179.99 one time payment coverage for two years,
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Have you ever tried to get a replacement? Try it on something low cost. Google the horror stories.

A2CKilla said:
sprint is fine, i work for them, it's just you always get the a**holes at some sprint stores, i would never treat a customer like that, let alone lead them in the wrong direction just for a commissioned pay, that's probably why that manager did that, but anywho, don't be mad at sprint, i'm sure you experience will get better with them, my parents have been with them for 15 years+ and never had an issue, and i've been with them for about 5 or 6 under my parents account, they have good service, just right now it's kinda hard keeping everyone happy while doing a MASSIVE network upgrade, but some people are impatient, but trust me sprint is the way to go
P.S. from reading your post, the initial issue does sound like it was the phone itself, you should have gotten something else, and don't bother with the 3d unless you can return it, i'm using it now, low signal strength, i would recommend the Photon (also own) the signal strength and radios in that phone are the strongest i've ever seen in any phone out there
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I dont suppose seeing how you work for them you can help me? I traded my phone away to a guy on craigslist(hope he lost my number LOL) but would love my upgrade back..

timinator94 said:
I dont suppose seeing how you work for them you can help me? I traded my phone away to a guy on craigslist(hope he lost my number LOL) but would love my upgrade back..
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i was just saying, so you'll know i can really relate to your problem and i'm not just rambling with non sense, as far as the upgrade....i would have talked the phone with them for a while before giving up so easily
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chrischoi said:
Wow, they change their terms.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/returns/
Was 30 in PA. Not sure what it is anymore.
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and that's been in effect for a couple months now actually :/ it sucks

I Beat AT&T today!!

AT&T started throttling my data this afternoon. I kindy went up to my local AT&T store and asked to be put on the phone with customer service. Their phone was tied up so I just ended up using my cellphone and leaving it on speaker phone to amuse the customers and make the staff look ****ty. The employees thought i had no chance but little did they know I remember my contracts and agreements class from college. I never signed a contract with AT&T since i bought my own phone in and I never upgraded or even bought a phone through them. I explained to the customer rep that I am following the terms of the original plan that was provided to me. I explained to them that as long as I have not put a signature on any sort of agreement altering my account then you guys can't legally alter it without consent from me. They tried to say they could and I told think twice before you make your company look really uneducated. Then I told the lady I would like to speak to your supervisor. Oh i got transferred 12 times until this cocky idiot came on the phone. This guy tried to be a smart one when i was explaining the law to him. He said, "The company doesn't give a damn about a law." Then i said sir your conversation is being recorded on my phone as well as your company phone." He said "excuse me?" I said "you heard me fool. You are being recorded and i got you on speaker phone with about 35 people listening and taking notes." He thought i was lying so me being in the bad mood i was in i gathered 10 people around my phone and let them say something to him. The little girl sad "bad man!" She was so adorable. This elderly lady cancelled her service and told the man to go burn in hell. The rest just laughed. After I the elderly lady left went to the counter the guy was kissing butt for real. He said he will see what he can do for me. I told him I can just send Jim a text. He said Jim who. I said Jim Hood our state attorney general. He put me on hold and 5 minutes later he came back saying that i was correct and your data will be fully restored in 10 minutes. I told him we can wait together then. 5 minutes later i did a speed test and I got 6.8 mbs down and 1.58 mbs up. After that i told him i am glad that this was resolved but I will save the conversation for just encase this happens again. He said have a nice day and thanks for being an at&t customer. I said whatever and hung up. The customers actually clapped and the staff looked like someone died. I'm on cloud 9 at the moment. I think I should have went to law school instead getting into Networking and Computers.

Niceeeee
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I just print screened this original post because I am dying of laughter.
Without going too far in-depth, you were wrong. According to you, you were under no contractual agreements with AT&T, therefore, neither were they. Ergo they can change the terms of service at any point and you can decide to cease payment at any point. Both parties can do these actions sans penalty because, according to you, there are no contracts in effect.
You did not beat AT&T. They just got tired of you, which is okay.
To all others: Do not do this. AT&T will put you on hold and laugh at you. Chances of this working for anyone else are slim.

albo23 said:
I just print screened this original post because I am dying of laughter.
Without going too far in-depth, you were wrong. According to you, you were under no contractual agreements with AT&T, therefore, neither were they. Ergo they can change the terms of service at any point and you can decide to cease payment at any point. Both parties can do these actions sans penalty because, according to you, there are no contracts in effect.
You did not beat AT&T. They just got tired of you, which is okay.
To all others: Do not do this. AT&T will put you on hold and laugh at you. Chances of this working for anyone else are slim.
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Technically I was. They was not providing the service that I was supposed to get according to their terms. It was funny though. Most people who renew their contract actually agree to the shady terms. I was really mad because I didn't get a warning before I got throttled. And I got throttled at 3.022 gb according to the idiot on the phone. I think the rep using profanity in front of a bunch of customers got my data back on track to be honest. I am glad I used my cellphone to be honest. I was sure going to give CNN my conversation for real. I have to thanks the HTC developers for including the call recorder app in their sense roms. I think it is the RCMix rom.
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gasolara2002 said:
Technically I was. They was not providing the service that I was supposed to get according to their terms. It was funny though. Most people who renew their contract actually agree to the shady terms. I was really mad because I didn't get a warning before I got throttled. And I got throttled at 3.022 gb according to the idiot on the phone. I think the rep using profanity in front of a bunch of customers got my data back on track to be honest. I am glad I used my cellphone to be honest. I was sure going to give CNN my conversation for real. I have to thanks the HTC developers for including the call recorder app in their sense roms. I think it is the RCMix rom.
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You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.

albo23 said:
You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.
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Yes I did. I still have the original brochure from 2006. Those are the terms that are agreed upon. I'm sure it can be googled. The terms of the data back then basically said they can cut you off because overwhelming activity. If I was crazy and used 30gb like some customers then I wouldn't even worry about them cutting me off. They didn't follow their terms and the rep cursed during a service call. What more defense could you provide for AT&T? If you want to get down to the core of throttling it is illegal to throttle unless the service is selected for certain speeds such as what the home internet providers do. I think when some attorney general gets free time on their hands they will go after all of these mobile phone providers and penalize them heavily. Sprint, and T-Mobile are the only smart major national providers so far that are making sure that they avoid trouble in the future by being upfront about their data.
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albo23 said:
You obviously did not read a line of those terms so, technically, you were not. I am not certain what obligations you think AT&T holds if you did not sign a contract but from my observations, it is much smaller than what you think it really is.
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The thing you don't understand is that it is classified as a product when their is no contract. The terms is what was written in 2006. A product and a service are 2 different things. That's why you see the terms prepaid service and postpaid service. They don't use product a often any more.
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OH MAN, YES! Dude you Rock! I would have loved to see this.
I love seeing AT&T get kicked in the nuts.
This throttle sh!t p!sses me off. I had a very nice rep use a dead IMEI so he could switch my grandfathered unlimited plan, which now gets throttled at 3GB's, becasue ATT refarmed the extra 2Gigs to Simple Mobile,etc.; put me on the LTE plan so I can get 5GBs which is about what I use. I would have bought an LTE device except we probably wont have LTE for another few years! Not to mention the fact Im using a malyasian Galaxy tab plus 7.0 for voice calls and data, because I dont like being force fed the bloated recycled crap options in their stores.
This is so EPIC WIN. I understand networks are changing and much more data is being used these days, but at least let us original unlmited people use a fair amount..
best read all day!
I would happily settle for a sneaky way to unthrottle oursleves, but they are doing it server side, so I dont think we will have much luck.

I will check with my ex but I'm sure that is the reason why. She is an attorney and she normally helps draw up contracts for local entertainers.
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Check out my thread. I love messing with AT&T!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25834280#post25834280

gasolara2002 said:
Yes I did. I still have the original brochure from 2006. Those are the terms that are agreed upon. I'm sure it can be googled. The terms of the data back then basically said they can cut you off because overwhelming activity. If I was crazy and used 30gb like some customers then I wouldn't even worry about them cutting me off. They didn't follow their terms and the rep cursed during a service call. What more defense could you provide for AT&T? If you want to get down to the core of throttling it is illegal to throttle unless the service is selected for certain speeds such as what the home internet providers do. I think when some attorney general gets free time on their hands they will go after all of these mobile phone providers and penalize them heavily. Sprint, and T-Mobile are the only smart major national providers so far that are making sure that they avoid trouble in the future by being upfront about their data.
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gasolara2002 said:
The thing you don't understand is that it is classified as a product when their is no contract. The terms is what was written in 2006. A product and a service are 2 different things. That's why you see the terms prepaid service and postpaid service. They don't use product a often any more.
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Send me the contract when you have an opportunity. I am NOT distributing legal advice, however, I am speaking from the perspective of an individual who is one term from graduating from a T14 Law School. I am suggesting so as you are misleading individuals.
A SERVICE cannot be classified as a PRODUCT in any legally binding terms or agreements (it can, but is unenforceable). Regardless, that is moot as you hold no legally binding terms nor agreements with AT&T. You are still ignoring my previous comment that AT&T can shut off your service tomorrow because there are no legally binding agreements between the two parties. AT&T can throttle you anytime they would like and you can stop paying them anytime you would like as neither of you are constrained contractually.

Very nice. My mom has them for DSL and now she got a cell phone through them. I don't understand it but they suck. Good work man.
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gasolara2002 said:
AT&T started throttling my data this afternoon. I kindy went up to my local AT&T store and asked to be put on the phone with customer service. Their phone was tied up so I just ended up using my cellphone and leaving it on speaker phone to amuse the customers and make the staff look ****ty. The employees thought i had no chance but little did they know I remember my contracts and agreements class from college. I never signed a contract with AT&T since i bought my own phone in and I never upgraded or even bought a phone through them. I explained to the customer rep that I am following the terms of the original plan that was provided to me. I explained to them that as long as I have not put a signature on any sort of agreement altering my account then you guys can't legally alter it without consent from me. They tried to say they could and I told think twice before you make your company look really uneducated. Then I told the lady I would like to speak to your supervisor. Oh i got transferred 12 times until this cocky idiot came on the phone. This guy tried to be a smart one when i was explaining the law to him. He said, "The company doesn't give a damn about a law." Then i said sir your conversation is being recorded on my phone as well as your company phone." He said "excuse me?" I said "you heard me fool. You are being recorded and i got you on speaker phone with about 35 people listening and taking notes." He thought i was lying so me being in the bad mood i was in i gathered 10 people around my phone and let them say something to him. The little girl sad "bad man!" She was so adorable. This elderly lady cancelled her service and told the man to go burn in hell. The rest just laughed. After I the elderly lady left went to the counter the guy was kissing butt for real. He said he will see what he can do for me. I told him I can just send Jim a text. He said Jim who. I said Jim Hood our state attorney general. He put me on hold and 5 minutes later he came back saying that i was correct and your data will be fully restored in 10 minutes. I told him we can wait together then. 5 minutes later i did a speed test and I got 6.8 mbs down and 1.58 mbs up. After that i told him i am glad that this was resolved but I will save the conversation for just encase this happens again. He said have a nice day and thanks for being an at&t customer. I said whatever and hung up. The customers actually clapped and the staff looked like someone died. I'm on cloud 9 at the moment. I think I should have went to law school instead getting into Networking and Computers.
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It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?

luftrofl said:
It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?
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Brilliant.
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albo23 said:
Send me the contract when you have an opportunity. I am NOT distributing legal advice, however, I am speaking from the perspective of an individual who is one term from graduating from a T14 Law School. I am suggesting so as you are misleading individuals.
A SERVICE cannot be classified as a PRODUCT in any legally binding terms or agreements (it can, but is unenforceable). Regardless, that is moot as you hold no legally binding terms nor agreements with AT&T. You are still ignoring my previous comment that AT&T can shut off your service tomorrow because there are no legally binding agreements between the two parties. AT&T can throttle you anytime they would like and you can stop paying them anytime you would like as neither of you are constrained contractually.
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I got it. My ex has been an attorney for 4 years so I take what you say with good vision but experience is supreme. I was partially wrong in my argument. According to her the basis of it is consumer protection laws and AT&T's own terms. My plan which is not a contract but it is a post paid plan. Since I have never put a signature to give consent to any changes I am only held accountable for what is on the brochure for 2006. The brochure which you can find online clearly states that the provider can cut my phone off if I abuse the network in anyway. Throttling is not introduced in 2006 buddy. No one can be held accountable for a contract they never seen let alone never signed. AT&T would have to completely shutdown my phone and release me from the usage of their network according to the brochure. It can be found on google if you are looking for it. As far as misleading the community I did explain but I think most of them might understand it now. So I apologize for not clearly explaining why I can't get throttled. If you are upset because you may have gotten messed over by AT&T or you may have a part time job with them then all I can say is get over it. You are the only sore one out of the bunch.
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luftrofl said:
It's been widely reported that AT&T has a habit of throttling their so-called "unlimited" plans. You waited until it happened to you to go make a scene in an AT&T retail store?
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Yup because I thought something was wrong until I switched to my inspire then I knew I was throttled. Yes I did go to the retail store because there is an order to do things and I have learned that in order to get your voice heard you have to make them hear you. Call me crazy but I have no time to play phone tag with anyone. You can sit back if you want to and let them control you at will but with me they are going to have to stick with what was on the brochure of plans they printed for customers to stare at.
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9h0s7 said:
Brilliant.
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Thank You buddy
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Verizon I love u so much please just buy out at&t for us. And cool story
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ATHORNFAM2 said:
Verizon I love u so much please just buy out at&t for us. And cool story
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I actually wish that could happen. I honestly would be with big red if their network wasn't mainly cdma. The voice coverage is the best in the business.
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gasolara2002 said:
Yup because I thought something was wrong until I switched to my inspire then I knew I was throttled. Yes I did go to the retail store because there is an order to do things and I have learned that in order to get your voice heard you have to make them hear you. Call me crazy but I have no time to play phone tag with anyone. You can sit back if you want to and let them control you at will but with me they are going to have to stick with what was on the brochure of plans they printed for customers to stare at.
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Haha, I don't have AT&T so I wouldn't really know about "letting them control you"