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[tracking] Nexus 1.5 (3G bands 1, 2, 5)

So apparently Google is coming out with a N1.5 with 3G Band I (2100Mhz), II (1900Mz) and V (850Mhz), versus the N1 Bands I (2100Mhz), IV (1700Mhz) and VIII (900Mhz).
I do not understand why Google's flagship HTC handset doesn't support every frequency and they (whomever "they" may be) simply enable/disable in software?!
Anyway, I guess this means N1.5 will work on AT&T 3G.
Any insider tracking the Google release date for the AT&T capable Nexus?

Care to share an actual source?

Refering to this i assume.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/01/nexus_one_on_att_3g/

Yeah, I saw this a long time ago. There was an article on cnet.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-10444986-266.html

lpasq said:
I do not understand why Google's flagship HTC handset doesn't support every frequency and they (whomever "they" may be) simply enable/disable in software?!
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The hardware does not exist for any radio to include all 6 3G frequencies.

j.bruha said:
The hardware does not exist for any radio to include all 6 3G frequencies.
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i thought the bb9700 supports all? http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...-blackberrys-3g-bands-are-no-longer-relevant/

uberingram said:
Care to share an actual source?
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no official source. just internet surfing and that's why i am asking here to hear if anyone has update info... like maybe a google or htc spy

I was told by my AT&T representative for the SE region of RS that the phone is ready and is being tested to meet AT&T specs for speed on not only 3G but the upgraded HSPA networks. They however did not specify a date other than 2010 for the AT&T version. Soooo.... we shall see, normally they are right with the products coming to the market, like the Moto backflip which I knew personally was going to AT&T over a year ago.
-Charlie

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I was told by my AT&T representative for the SE region of RS that the phone is ready and is being tested to meet AT&T specs for speed on not only 3G but the upgraded HSPA networks. They however did not specify a date other than 2010 for the AT&T version. Soooo.... we shall see, normally they are right with the products coming to the market, like the Moto backflip which I knew personally was going to AT&T over a year ago.
-Charlie
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Did you know they would cripple the Backflip into a piece of **** a year ago too?

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Did you know they would cripple the Backflip into a piece of **** a year ago too?
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LOL this I didn't, being an avid android lover from day one my AT&T rep got to know me because of the question when we would get an android device.
But AT&T being the best service in my area I can't wait for this!
-Charlie

dahui9: thanks for sharing what you heard

There is no chipset/antenna design that supports all UMTS bands at the same time. The bgr was just wrong, there are two distinct bb9700: one for t-mobile and one for att.

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Did you know they would cripple the Backflip into a piece of **** a year ago too?
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Yeah, that is a sad excuse of an Android phone. ATT is going the way of the big V. No open access to an open source project.
Just stupid if you ask me.

ryan22158 said:
Yeah, that is a sad excuse of an Android phone. ATT is going the way of the big V. No open access to an open source project.
Just stupid if you ask me.
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I wonder what they are going to do to the nexus..remove the unlockable bootloader perhaps? I also wonder if Verizon is going to do the same...
Being on ATT with a nexus one, I really do want to be excited by this news as I am tired of being on edge (thankfully I have wifi available most of the time), but I am concerned about the lengths ATT will go to after seeing what they pulled with the backflip.
I will just sit and wait and watch. Worst case scenario, my cell contract will run dry next year and if ATT buggers up the nexus I can always migrate to TMO with a new contract...best case scenario...I can sell my current nexus to offset the cost of a new one that will take advantage of ATT's 3g...hopefully by then all those dreaded iphones will have moved on reducing the dropped call rate and slow 3g found in my area (seattle).

Two changes needed to support different 3G bands:
1. Antenna
2. Baseband firmware

Volker1 said:
There is no chipset/antenna design that supports all UMTS bands at the same time. The bgr was just wrong, there are two distinct bb9700: one for t-mobile and one for att.
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oh. i get it know. thanks volker1
deprecate said:
I wonder what they are going to do to the nexus..remove the unlockable bootloader perhaps? I also wonder if Verizon is going to do the same...
Being on ATT with a nexus one, I really do want to be excited by this news as I am tired of being on edge (thankfully I have wifi available most of the time), but I am concerned about the lengths ATT will go to after seeing what they pulled with the backflip.
I will just sit and wait and watch. Worst case scenario, my cell contract will run dry next year and if ATT buggers up the nexus I can always migrate to TMO with a new contract...best case scenario...I can sell my current nexus to offset the cost of a new one that will take advantage of ATT's 3g...hopefully by then all those dreaded iphones will have moved on reducing the dropped call rate and slow 3g found in my area (seattle).
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deprecate: i feel your pain. i wore out my tilt waiting for tilt2...got tired of waiting after device released on other carriers first...and ordered a rogers magic in frustration. now i wonder if google saves us all by selling a google nexus unlocked running att 3g band(s). anyway, i'm an android convert and glad to be. though you lack 3g, you have an awesome device

lpasq said:
oh. i get it know. thanks volker1
deprecate: i feel your pain. i wore out my tilt waiting for tilt2...got tired of waiting after device released on other carriers first...and ordered a rogers magic in frustration. now i wonder if google saves us all by selling a google nexus unlocked running att 3g band(s). anyway, i'm an android convert and glad to be. though you lack 3g, you have an awesome device
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Oh I know it. The moment I got rid of my G1 in favour of an iphone when I swtiched from tmo -> att I knew I made a mistake...
I have zero regrets about having the nexus; here's hoping ATT doesn't get a bug up its arse and handicap an amazing device because they seem to run their company as though they have pants on their heads.

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At&t may get SG2 first??? (boo)

http://www.gizmocrunch.com/rumors/6686-att-samsung-galaxy-s2-release-date
Now this all just speculation but that just sucks if its true for us vibrant users! I really want a sg2 and i hope were not last of the 4 carriers to get it.
Att and samsung are having a special invite event
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/05/03/att-and-samsung-mobile-special-event-date-galaxy-s-ii-usa/
ur opinions?

Its probably the samsung infuse. With a 4.5 inch super amoled plus and 1.2 ghz humming bird processor. Its not a dual core, and still has froyo, so nothing to worry about.
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i predict att will announce it's release first, then tmob will undercut their release date by like a week like they did with the first sgs.

that would be so cool if thaT happened! then at least we would have a release date

Actually, I would be happy if the Sg2 was quad band 3g so that I could run ATT or T-mobile 3g. That would make it a better seller.

i just hope tmo doesnt screw the sg2 up like the did the vibrant.

If Tmobile does screw it up, the international version is always available...

technically, at&t customers can already just use the international version of the SGS2 as it is now. so yeah, at&t pretty much has it as is (damn tmo's AWS bands!).

Oniyuri said:
technically, at&t customers can already just use the international version of the SGS2 as it is now. so yeah, at&t pretty much has it as is (damn tmo's AWS bands!).
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Yeah, but T-Mo's AWS bands make our 3G about 7x faster then AT&T. xD
Hell, it's even faster then Sprint's 4G WiMax, and it comes close to Verizon's 4G LTE network (in the few markets where it hits 8-10mbps, and not 15-17 like in others).

Is this the 4G news we have been waiting for?

http://www.slashgear.com/novatel-ex...-verizon-4g-approval-next-stop-xoom-19153125/
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it would be nice if motorola used this modem card for the xoom as they had promised us a free 4G upgrade in the future(2013?).
I wonder when are 3G xoom owners finally gonna get fed up and file some class action suit against motorola for promising false accusations of 4G upgrades to everyone. they never said when they would do the free upgrades so technically it could be in the year 2020
Also, with verizon having the Thunderbolt phone and Droid Charge phone running 4G on their LTE network so far, why can't motorola use a similar 4G chip as those phones?
Given the amount of time 3G xoom owners have waited very patiently for our 4G upgrade and sdcard upgrade, I wish motorola would keep us more informed on what's going on

ariurban said:
it would be nice if motorola used this modem card for the xoom as they had promised us a free 4G upgrade in the future(2013?).
I wonder when are 3G xoom owners finally gonna get fed up and file some class action suit against motorola for promising false accusations of 4G upgrades to everyone. they never said when they would do the free upgrades so technically it could be in the year 2020
Also, with verizon having the Thunderbolt phone and Droid Charge phone running 4G on their LTE network so far, why can't motorola use a similar 4G chip as those phones?
Given the amount of time 3G xoom owners have waited very patiently for our 4G upgrade and sdcard upgrade, I wish motorola would keep us more informed on what's going on
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"Verizon had promised a free 4G update for the XOOM when it launched the 3G version of the slate earlier in the year. At the time, though, no 4G miniPCI modems certified for the LTE network were available"
Motorola has nothing to do with network.

Nope, the news I'm waiting for is that I can send my Xoom in for the upgrade. I'd rather wait longer for a good, tested chip then a rushed version of something else. This is a one-time upgrade I want them to get right.

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"Verizon had promised a free 4G update for the XOOM when it launched the 3G version of the slate earlier in the year. At the time, though, no 4G miniPCI modems certified for the LTE network were available"
Motorola has nothing to do with network.
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My question again, why can't they not use a similar card like that being used on the verizon thunderbolt or the droid charge? Is it that much different?

IT mean i would be able to use My USA xoom in Europa?
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One thing I'm worried about is the fact that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
Thoughts?

gbenj said:
One thing I'm worried about is the facta that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
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I don't think Ltd plays nice with anything. Used to own a thunderbolt. Speeds cool but did no good on a dead phone.
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gbenj said:
One thing I'm worried about is the fact that the Bionic was reportedly delayed due to bad battery life relating to overheating.
Apparently the LTE card and Tegra 2 processor Didnt get along and were not playing nicely together.
In the case of the Bionic, the phone was reportedly scrapped until it can be retooled and redesigned to fix its issues.
In the case of the XOOM, who knows what they can/can't do or if the same Tegra 2/LTE problems exist but the delay we've already had isn't promising.
Considering that the XOOM is the only Tegra 2 Verizon device out there (the bionic was supposed to be the next) I don't think its a far stretch to say that the XOOM could be experiencing similar issues.
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I thought the same thing when I heard the news about the Bionic. I'm still hoping this is an already resolved technical issue that's being fine tuned for imminent release. I'll be honest and say that I'm growing a bit impatient waiting for LTE and official SD Card support for this device. I know i'm an early adopter, but waiting months for promised functionality is not something I'm happy with right now, I travel weekly for my job and I could really use that 4G upgrade considering the poor connectivity at the area hotels.
I consider it a lesson learned and even though i'm mostly happy with my Xoom, it will be put up for sale by the summer while it still has value if Moto/VZW/Google doesn't deliver by then. I'll replace it with a wifi only tablet & a dedicated LTE modem, probably a more flexible config for my needs IMO.

This excerpt is particularly interesting...
"As well as LTE there’s quadband HSPA+..."
This could mean a AT&T / T-Mobile version might not be far behind? I already have my XOOM but wouldn't mind seeing the XOOM gain an even larger mindshare / foothold.

The furthest I'm willing to be patient with the update is if another tablet comes to Verizon with LTE.
After seeing some of the info about the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and some rumors that it'd be coming to Verizon, if that thing comes out with LTE before the XOOM gets upgraded, Verizon/MOTO would have some explaining to do.
Other than that scenario, I agree with the early adopter reasoning. I can't be too mad that its taking longer than expected, just a little disappointed.

Hmm i had the dell streak 7 on t-mobile 4g coverage area & the battery was dead in most cases in less than 3hrs even on wifi too..so i dont see the what the hold up is ..if t-mobile got it to work in that sorry excuse for a tablet (streak 7) then Verizon/motorola better step it up..it's bad to see other tablets coming out with working sd slots & some even 4g already & the xoom is still 2 steps behind !!!

Arun01 said:
Hmm i had the dell streak 7 on t-mobile 4g coverage area & the battery was dead in most cases in less than 3hrs even on wifi too..so i dont see the what the hold up is ..if t-mobile got it to work in that sorry excuse for a tablet (streak 7) then Verizon/motorola better step it up..it's bad to see other tablets coming out with working sd slots & some even 4g already & the xoom is still 2 steps behind !!!
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T-Mobile's '4G' network runs on a 3rd generation network upgraded to '4G' speeds, it didn't require much in terms of hardware upgrades.
Verizon uses an entirely new spectrum and technology called LTE that is more of a 4G product.

Xoom Owners getting Fed up with Motorola
I guess some guy is taking Verizon to court in west LA over the Xoom and lack of LTE. Others on the Motorola customer support board are organizing to file complaints to the FTC about Verizon and Motorola.

catchxxii said:
I guess some guy is taking Verizon to court in west LA over the Xoom and lack of LTE. Others on the Motorola customer support board are organizing to file complaints to the FTC about Verizon and Motorola.
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Link? I would like to get involved also... I am tired of the 4g promises, time for results.

My Xoom received the 4G upgrade last month. No 4G in this area, however, but the turnaround time for the upgrade was less than a week.
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My Xoom received the 4G upgrade last month. No 4G in this area, however, but the turnaround time for the upgrade was less than a week.
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Did you have to get a full wipe?

Got my 4g update as well and yes I got a full wipe, bone stock xoom back, good thing is I'm in Tampa and we have great 4g coverage, this thing hauls ass.
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How fast does the juice haul ass from the battery?

As fast as the hott air coming out of that liars mouth.
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Nexus Prime > Galaxy Nexus

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20...-sandwich-powered-galaxy-nexus/?tag=mncol;txt
Well seems the name was changed to the Galaxy Nexus [sounds so much better to me]. The official specs look nice. Some may same only a 5MP camera? The rest od the specs fully make up for it. As its due in November, if Sprint should be getting it, I should say. Thoughts?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-F_ke3rxopc#! Nice video, so we know it'll be on verizon for sure.
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As its due in November, Sprint should be getting it.
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Not sure if sprint will get it. It's only going to support LTE and HSPA+, so IF sprint gets it, it would be a 3g only model.

cant say galaxy nexus doesn't roll but i wish it comes to sprint need to replace my evo for that gorgeous screen and dual core

Looks tempting enough to move over to Verizon when it comes out. Really nice new features.

I would love for Sprint to get it. Let it be an early LTE phone. I don't need Wimax, since they never brought it to where I live.

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Not sure if sprint will get it. It's only going to support LTE and HSPA+, so IF sprint gets it, it would be a 3g only model.
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I wouldn't actually mind it being 3g as i can wait for LTE and pay less as WIMAX is barely usable.

sprint wont get it...stupid wimax

Sprint wont get it guys. They're marketing it as having 4G. To keep up with the features of ICS. So Sprint is screwed out of this one!

Meh, sprint is supposed to have LTE in 2012 so it'll probably get there eventually. Or the earth will blow up, either way I don't care.

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Meh, sprint is supposed to have LTE in 2012 so it'll probably get there eventually. Or the earth will blow up, either way I don't care.
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If they could just do what verizon did with the zoom and issue it out in November as a 3g only phone (LTE version) and then upgrade them when LTE became available. That would be the best. Don't hold it back from us just because your LTE network isn't ready yet.

dswatson83 said:
If they could just do what verizon did with the zoom and issue it out in November as a 3g only phone (LTE version) and then upgrade them when LTE became available. That would be the best. Don't hold it back from us just because your LTE network isn't ready yet.
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good point, that would be nice

I want the begining of the youtube video as a bootanimation! That would be fing sweet!

i think, like the nexus s 4g, a carrier (verizon) will have exclusivity on it for a bit and then released to the mass over a period of time. makes perfect sense considering verizon will get a LTE version and with sprint rolling out LTE in the first half of 2012, thats when sprints galaxy nexus should pop up.

Galaxy Nexus Coming to Sprint

http://briefmobile.com/sprint-nexus-prime-coming-soon
Check inside for the proof!

Time to save my Pennies lol
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I find this a little odd considering Samsung has already said what the radio versions would be and Sprint has 0 LTE setup. I call shenanigans on someone. Maybe the want posters for use in the end of next year?

strifejester said:
I find this a little odd considering Samsung has already said what the radio versions would be and Sprint has 0 LTE setup. I call shenanigans on someone. Maybe the want posters for use in the end of next year?
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sprint announced lte starting q1 2012

Sprint Will Be Getting The Galaxy Nexus.
With out a doubt Sprint will be getting the new nexus phone as all the main wireless company's in the US will be. There are two models HSPA models will go to T-mobile and AT&T and the LTE models will be on Verizon and Sprint, anyone to think otherwise wouldn't be smart to think sprint has already does this in the past with the Nexus S 4G while it advertised it being the first and only usable NFC Compatible phone but nobody in theory could actually use the NFC feature of the phone until they had updated it to version 2.3.7 and gave u Google Wallet and Google Shopper. Sprint has stated that they are going to be very aggressive setting up LTE in 2012 to try to be on par with Verizon somewhat with 4G so its all makes sense if u really think about it..

Sprint announced LTE for next summer with it's first LTE devices launching next summer as well.

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I find this a little odd considering Samsung has already said what the radio versions would be and Sprint has 0 LTE setup. I call shenanigans on someone. Maybe the want posters for use in the end of next year?
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Wow hater. All major carriers and a few not so major carriers are getting the phone. Just like the SGS2...

looks like they might release the phone then launch lte? I hope LTE will be unlimited

Samsung/Google already dropped the ball in not releasing this device (or having a press event for it) before the iPhone4S was released. The best they can do now to salvage their product in the public's eye is to release it on as many carriers as possible.

im waiting for something more than a packing slip as a real confirmation.

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im waiting for something more than a packing slip as a real confirmation.
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I think everyone is...let's hope that sprint doesn't count this as an official statement
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lowandbehold said:
Wow hater. All major carriers and a few not so major carriers are getting the phone. Just like the SGS2...
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Not a hater I own a NS4G and use Sprint everyday. I was just being honest. So far we know very little about what Sprint will use for their LTE and if there is any compatability with Samsung already has in the phone. I know all of the carriers will get a variant of the Galaxy Nexus but I honestly don't expect any of them to get one until after May of next year and I also think its possible late next year this phone will be advertised like crazy on Sprint and their new LTE.