Dual Boot - Epic 4G General

Wouldn't a dual boot of some other os be nice right about now? whats an os out we should get to dual boot?

None. No other device uses the same hardware as ours and writing drivers for an entire OS is an unbelievable undertaking we don't have the devs for.

063_XOBX said:
None. No other device uses the same hardware as ours and writing drivers for an entire OS is an unbelievable undertaking we don't have the devs for.
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it sucks how its the other way around though for windows users

XxLostSoulxX said:
it sucks how its the other way around though for windows users
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They don't have a dev community so not really. So far there has been one successful "jailbreak" that ruins their ability to update forever. Not much of a future there.

063_XOBX said:
They don't have a dev community so not really. So far there has been one successful "jailbreak" that ruins their ability to update forever. Not much of a future there.
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For 7 right? I know Windows Mobile 6 had the ability to dual-boot with Android just fine...
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Yeah, I gave my wife my old touch pro 2, she runs froyo on it... doesn't even use winmo anymore.
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The droid incredible can dual boot 2 android roms but that's becouse of its generous internal memory. It would be near impossible for us on our pathetic 400mb or so.
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Hasseo said:
For 7 right? I know Windows Mobile 6 had the ability to dual-boot with Android just fine...
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That's what convinced me to come to Android. I had a Windows Mobile 6 phone, and after dual booting with Android for about a month, I realized I liked it a lot better and decided that my next phone would be an Android one. And that was a big deal for me, because I was developing apps for my Windows phone but had never made an Android app before.

Hasseo said:
For 7 right? I know Windows Mobile 6 had the ability to dual-boot with Android just fine...
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yes Windows Mobile 6

icevapor said:
Yeah, I gave my wife my old touch pro 2, she runs froyo on it... doesn't even use winmo anymore.
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Very cool!.. I played with android on my TP2 before I got the epic
What build are you using for your wife? I have a couple of "non techie" friends who are stuck with TP2's and i would love to get froyo working on them. Does everything work? camera, sound etc?

Jimmyjoe said:
Very cool!.. I played with android on my TP2 before I got the epic
What build are you using for your wife? I have a couple of "non techie" friends who are stuck with TP2's and i would love to get froyo working on them. Does everything work? camera, sound etc?
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Uhhh f...06 (... means I can't remeber, its something like frx06 or something) w/ one of of the updated kernels in the forums. Bluetooth doesn't work, but my wife never uses it.
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For 7 right? I know Windows Mobile 6 had the ability to dual-boot with Android just fine...
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The OS has nothing to do w/ whether you can dual boot or not. But more depends on the hardware and and what software and/or drivers the community has put together.
Comming from winmo, I see no reason why anyone would want to go to it from android.
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icevapor said:
Comming from winmo, I see no reason why anyone would want to go to it from android.
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This.
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I'd love to run WebOS on my Epic.

stir fry a lot said:
I'd love to run WebOS on my Epic.
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You never will. It's mostly closed source and even if by some miracle someone got it working HP would sue them into oblivion.

I would like to boot Fedora 3.4 on my Epic.
Am I doing it right?

063_XOBX said:
You never will. It's mostly closed source and even if by some miracle someone got it working HP would sue them into oblivion.
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Yeah I know. Just wishful thinking on my part. I love WebOS but the hardware they're giving it sucks beyond sucking.

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[Q] WM7 on the Vibrant?

I know the Focus is running WM7, is there anything in the works to port it over to the Vibrant?
Mercuri82 said:
I know the Focus is running WM7, is there anything in the works to port it over to the Vibrant?
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Windows phone 7? I don't think its possible since its closed source
Why?
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All win 7 phones run snapdragons. So the focus isn't like the vibrant
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there was a clone made a couple weeks ago, called Diazo should be in development section couple pages back
I know it has to have a snapdragon processor, just seeing if anything was around
and why you ask?
Doesn't Android get boring after awhile? An OS change is nice!
Mercuri82 said:
and why you ask?
Doesn't Android get boring after awhile?
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No. It doesn't.
There is one in development, not sure how good it is, but give it a shot!
it was made by master, wasn't that popular so it might be down on the list! Or go to his profile and try to find it that way!
Rockin that Bionix Frost 2.2.1! yeeee!
Mercuri82 said:
I know it has to have a snapdragon processor, just seeing if anything was around
and why you ask?
Doesn't Android get boring after awhile? An OS change is nice!
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That's like saying " I am bored with my Lexus, Let me go rent a Chevy Malibu...
Just teasin

WP7 on epic?

Is it possible? Id love to play with it lol
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Someone delete this lol I change my mind
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That's not going too happen. Windows is copywrited it'd be like stealing a copy of windows 7 and installing it on your pc. Illegal
As long it is a Windows 7 phone it has to be Windows OS. As for android which is opensource...
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its really hard to do.... but
why change your mind? just becuase someone said it was illegal?
Actually, its in the process of being done on the EVO, Its not final if it will work or start, but it was able to boot. Maybe at the End of the Summer, it may be available for the Evo, and it might get ported to the epic, but the chances are highly unlikely.
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Actually, its in the process of being done on the EVO, Its not final if it will work or start, but it was able to boot. Maybe at the End of the Summer, it may be available for the Evo, and it might get ported to the epic, but the chances are highly unlikely.
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One of my favorite features of the HTC phones was the ability to dual-boot android or WinMO. The Touch Pro was awesome with this. Unfortunately HTC doesn't want to make a decent phone with a keyboard anymore, and nobody else likes WinMO.
Launcher 7 is about as close as we'll come... I'm happy enough with it
Wp7 sucks.. enough said...
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jeffyv2 said:
Wp7 sucks.. enough said...
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+1 why would even conjure this idea when you own android and can do way more with it. Wait til android comes to desktops. OOOOOOHHHHH SH****T
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Netflix woould be one reason.
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Well we all know android is better. I just want to play with it out of the sake of curiousity... I owned a tilt back in the day and I HATED Winmo. But now that the os has been completely revised and its actually good and hasn't fallen flat on its face id like to try it out. Just out of curiousity lol
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It won't happen. Ever.
Incompatible hardware, closed source OS, and a dozen other reasons.

Anyone cooking ICS now: )

Sdk is out!!!
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If someone would get me the system.img and ramdisk and stuff, I'd like to work on it
edit: the sdk is compiled for ARMv7a too much work to be woth the effort of porting
i am only going to port icons and other stuff that's it nothing more
is it possible to get ICS on G1?
TDMaster said:
is it possible to get ICS on G1?
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not until they release the source for it
Ouh damn... :/
Thought it would be quite easy to port it but if it's sized on ARMv7... :/
Rushness said:
Ouh damn... :/
Thought it would be quite easy to port it but if it's sized on ARMv7... :/
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Yeah... I was gonna port it yesterday during my math class. I've practiced porting random sdk versions so i could be ready for ics. I downloaded all the files I needed, then I saw armv7a in the name of the folder the system.img was in. I was worried so I examined it anyway. Built for a cpu that we don't have I went into that class excited, came out disappointed
Damn so its a no go or will there be a work around
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Damn so its a no go or will there be a work around
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Wait for the source. No way to recompile something we don't have the source code to.
ummmm how many people actually like the look of ice cream lol if you watch the video it looks a bit bland and boring....I have to say I don't like the new launcher however the music player looks better but it doesn't operate better in my opinion.
xillius200 said:
ummmm how many people actually like the look of ice cream lol if you watch the video it looks a bit bland and boring....I have to say I don't like the new launcher however the music player looks better but it doesn't operate better in my opinion.
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I think it looks incredible. Much more sophisticated than what many of us have now.
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May look sophisticated yet it lacks a nice theme. After a while of use I believe it would get boring and very fast at that.
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xillius200 said:
May look sophisticated yet it lacks a nice theme. After a while of use I believe it would get boring and very fast at that.
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That's what themers here on xda are for
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really? :/ I think the g1 has reached it's end. Isn't the N1 cheap now? I still miss my qwerty kb, but it's just too old.
illuminarias said:
really? :/ I think the g1 has reached it's end. Isn't the N1 cheap now? I still miss my qwerty kb, but it's just too old.
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Probably not cheaper than free... thats what the G1 is to most of us... I agree its not worth buying now, but if you already own it, why not see what we can do with it.
bveditz said:
Probably not cheaper than free... thats what the G1 is to most of us... I agree its not worth buying now, but if you already own it, why not see what we can do with it.
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Free? What D:
And well yeah,being able to run gb is already very very impressive. I just don't see why anyone would wanna port ics anymore.
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illuminarias said:
Free? What D:
And well yeah,being able to run gb is already very very impressive. I just don't see why anyone would wanna port ics anymore.
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well, free because we've moved on and its just sitting there collecting dust. Honestly though, I don't care to run ics on it either, the new features aren't of any use to the g1, so it really would just be for the theming which they could do.
rather than ICS I'd like to see other uses for these phones... I was using mine as a little boxee remote for a while... But I'd like to see more single use roms that are streamlined for some single purposes (like media pc remotes, c64 or ibm pc emulators (on bootup), carpc (probably too small for that), whatever...)
I was porting ICS to HD2, but there is something weird going on with surface flinger libs & binaries and dalvik-vm.. You can't de-odex the files with baksmali..

iOS

Anyone ever try to make a hackinphone?
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hackinphone?
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iOS on a device other than an iPhone. Like I made a hackintosh by putting OSX on my old Asus laptop.
chukis13 said:
iOS on a device other than an iPhone. Like I made a hackintosh by putting OSX on my old Asus laptop.
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i was going to hackintosh my dell mini but like windows 7 to much and are u talking about a I phone custom rom for are phones it's a launcher very close to the I phone ui called espier launcher and it's free
MyTouch HD (Black)
Kernel demonspeed v7
lagfree 1516Ghz - 768Mhz
Edited Build Prop
Beats Audio
Gingerbread 2.3.5
Dark Side Sense 3.3 !
There's also miui. Ios copy in my opinion.
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chukis13 said:
Anyone ever try to make a hackinphone?
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lol dude... this is android, otherwise known as the "iOS killer"
we don't need iOS roms here
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saranhai said:
lol dude... this is android, otherwise known as the "iOS killer"
we don't need iOS roms here
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saranhai said:
lol dude... this is android, otherwise known as the "iOS killer"
we don't need iOS roms here
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MiUi is mimics iOS5.x almost in every fashion. If you were to lay a iOS theme on it, and did a screen shot no one would know the difference.
Resolution
MiUi sounds like a great mimic, and I'm going to give it a try. But is there any way to make it the primary operating system of a phone like the Droid X? What is the fundamental difference between the phones that is preventing migration?
Try iLauncher by SUCKGAMONI on the Google Playstore. If you want the MIUI launcher here it is:View attachment MIUI_Launcher_3.1.apk
(This is not my work)
neidlinger said:
MiUi is mimics iOS5.x almost in every fashion. If you were to lay a iOS theme on it, and did a screen shot no one would know the difference.
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until you went into the music player or the app store or the video player or the settings...
bittermormon said:
until you went into the music player or the app store or the video player or the settings...
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Well your name fits you perfectly.
neidlinger said:
Well your name fits you perfectly.
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Thanks, can I send a couple of representatives over to talk?
chukis13 said:
iOS on a device other than an iPhone. Like I made a hackintosh by putting OSX on my old Asus laptop.
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who would want a crappy, simple/basic, "advertised-to-retards" kinda product like that. apple sucks.. ill stick to android
I am only asking out of curiosity and not out of a desire. I know that ios is not open source so making an ios rom is not realistic, but if super hacker really wanted to, could he or she make it work some how? Or what about a program which could sniff out the source code for closed source platforms?
I am very happy with Android no desire for iPhone(unless free) just asking
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I am only asking out of curiosity and not out of a desire. I know that ios is not open source so making an ios rom is not realistic, but if super hacker really wanted to, could he or she make it work some how? Or what about a program which could sniff out the source code for closed source platforms?
I am very happy with Android no desire for iPhone(unless free) just asking
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i dont think it would be too hard to port for a pro, the problem would be with drivers. how will iOS know what to do with your htc/samsung/etc hardware?
Theoretically, given unlimited amount of time and unlimited determination, one could make such a port work, at least partially.
Practically, given different HW of those phones, the amount of time and determination required to port anything newer than iOS3 are close to insane - unrealistic enough for anybody to want to do it.
If one were to say make a port of ios, would it be illegal to release it being that ios is closed source or would this fall under fair use? More than likely Apple would sue who ever released it lol
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md1008 said:
If one were to say make a port of ios, would it be illegal to release it being that ios is closed source or would this fall under fair use? More than likely Apple would sue who ever released it lol
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you will be sued for distributing it, whether making money or not.
grimey01 said:
you will be sued for distributing it, whether making money or not.
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Gotta love Apple! This is probably the real reason it has never been distributed.
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Dual Boot

This should really start being looked into by the devs. It would be AMAZING to have it on the Epic4G. Easier said than done. But we got some great devs and I think they can pull it off!!. Please devs. We need this!
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What do you mean by dual boot?
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
The temporary EL30 boot from sdcard is a method of "dual boot" which has been useful for people to update PRL and calibrate sensors. This old version is problematic in that 3G and 4G data is broken. We know how to fix it, but it would take a few hours of work and there hasn't been demand for it.
Any type of dual boot would boot from the sdcard. The slow sdcard. Not a great user experience.
LOL...I got a quad boot on my phone. If I boot right into CWM I have nandroids of 4 ROMs to choose from to restore. Takes less than 10 minutes to restore one and then there is no issue of running from a slow sd card since we don't have enough internal memory to make real dual boot work.
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wtogami said:
What do you mean by dual boot?
http://epiccm.blogspot.com/2012/01/boot-el30-stock-from-sdcard.html
The temporary EL30 boot from sdcard is a method of "dual boot" which has been useful for people to update PRL and calibrate sensors. This old version is problematic in that 3G and 4G data is broken. We know how to fix it, but it would take a few hours of work and there hasn't been demand for it.
Any type of dual boot would boot from the sdcard. The slow sdcard. Not a great user experience.
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NOT DUALBOOTING
kennyglass123 said:
LOL...I got a quad boot on my phone. If I boot right into CWM I have nandroids of 4 ROMs to choose from to restore. Takes less than 10 minutes to restore one and then there is no issue of running from a slow sd card since we don't have enough internal memory to make real dual boot work.
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Haha no Dual booting is when you turn on your phone and have the chance to boot into either windows or android. like windows has.
Real dualbooting
XxLostSoulxX said:
NOT DUALBOOTING
Haha no Dual booting is when you turn on your phone and have the chance to boot into either windows or android. like windows has.
Real dualbooting
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I know what real dual booting is....LOL. But not practical with our phones limited memory. With MTD and very limited apps it is probably possible but not practical leaving no room for any third padty apps.
Was just injecting a little humor..sheesh. ..tough crowd..l
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kennyglass123 said:
I know what real dual booting is....LOL. But not practical with our phones limited memory. With MTD and very limited apps it is probably possible but not practical leaving no room for any third padty apps.
Was just injecting a little humor..sheesh. ..tough crowd..l
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not trying to be tough lol just saying is all. but if an old windows mobile phone can why cant ours, the htc touch pro 2 did and has less everything than ours.
I got it xP. I think he is just a bit to serious ha
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joe_d08_17 said:
I got it xP. I think he is just a bit to serious ha
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Ha...been awhile since I was accused of that...lol.
Is it possible that other phone's ROMs are much smaller than ours? It can be done but would be a tight squeeze on MTD but next to impossible on BML.
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Nook color has this. Although I never compared the specs. One boots off SD card, thither off internal memory. Speed off SD is same as internal. But I don't think the epic could handle this as a full time option. Just my opinion. My NC dual boots cm7 and cm9.
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Nook color has this. Although I never compared the specs. One boots off SD card, thither off internal memory. Speed off SD is same as internal. But I don't think the epic could handle this as a full time option. Just my opinion. My NC dual boots cm7 and cm9.
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I've benchmarked our internals and they come out to about 218 mb/s read our sdcards are average about 15 mb/s read
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Android = 200mb
Nand = 500mb
Data+cache = ~300ish mb
If you dual boot you will have no space for apps
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Android = 200mb
Nand = 500mb
Data+cache = ~300ish mb
If you dual boot you will have no space for apps
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Where'd all that space come from? I thought we only had like 300 megs in both RAM and ROM?
Also my friends tp2 and hd2 dual booted very easily into android (infact I think the hd2 is the most developed for android phone after the g1 and nexus 1, and its not even native lololol) and ran extremely smooth (on the hd2...on the tp2 it was like a hero with a keyboard lol. Random sluggishness.)
But nah if the hd2 can handle it I know damn well our phones can handle it. The problem is, everything we can dual boot is closed source so that's why windows phones can dual boot android but not vice-versa (I mean, you could do it yourself but just can't distribute it).
Meego seems like a great choice for a dual boot though since its open source and amazing...
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Where'd all that space come from? I thought we only had like 300 megs in both RAM and ROM?
Also my friends tp2 and hd2 dual booted very easily into android (infact I think the hd2 is the most developed for android phone after the g1 and nexus 1, and its not even native lololol) and ran extremely smooth (on the hd2...on the tp2 it was like a hero with a keyboard lol. Random sluggishness.)
But nah if the hd2 can handle it I know damn well our phones can handle it. The problem is, everything we can dual boot is closed source so that's why windows phones can dual boot android but not vice-versa (I mean, you could do it yourself but just can't distribute it).
Meego seems like a great choice for a dual boot though since its open source and amazing...
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This is still not possible. The HD2 had a lot more ROM.
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This is still not possible. The HD2 had a lot more ROM.
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Whats funny is the HTC HD2 still runs ICS or can dual boot etc... and its 3 years old
I have had my head spun by this topic myself -- I've been doing a lot of searches and reading just about every result but I can't seem to find good general info on the subject. I've seen some loosely compiled info on dual booting CM9/CM7, and I've seen some info on the EL30 from sdcard mentioned before, but I had hoped to boot CM9/CleanGB as CleanGB is what I'm running stable and comfortable with now. I'd just like to be able to have stable and comfortable as a fallback for playing with ICS. I know running off the sd is supposed to be quite slow, I don't really know what to expect as to HOW slow, but the way I figured slow was an acceptable compromise for a stable fallback.
My bottom line has been that a lot of kernels seem to support this, yet it feels like there's very little info on doing it, and that just confuses me a skosh. Is CM9/CleanGB even possible due to kernel requirements?
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I used to do this on my HTC TouchPro2. It was nice having android on it. The only problem was battery died too quick. But it was a pretty easy thing to do.
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lilajrestnom said:
I used to do this on my HTC TouchPro2. It was nice having android on it. The only problem was battery died too quick. But it was a pretty easy thing to do.
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Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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Ya I know. Coming from a T-mobile MyTouch3G Slide I hated the TP2 lol.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Obviously the Touch Pro was designed to run windows mobile only and more business like Blackberrry
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What does pointing out the obvious have to do with what he said
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