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Any one else finding that most of the reviews of the Tab seem to be written by people who just don't get it?
I'm the first in line to call a spade a spade (that would be "shovel a shovel" for our American cousins) but I truly believe the Tab is a fantastic device and I cannot see where most of these reviewers are coming from.
I'm sure that some would say that us Tab buyers are trying to justify our purchase, but I'm honestly finding that the Tab has exceeded my expectations which were already quite high.
I've been in the market for a device that could sit between my laptop(s) and smartphone for casual media consumption and web browsing, and since buying my Tab last Friday, my Macbook has sat on my coffee table untouched and my HTC Desire has only really seen use as a phone.
I was seriously considering an Advent Vega, Toshiba Folio 100, or Archos 101 as they were all around half the price of the Tab, but after my experience with the Toshiba AC100 Android smartbook I decided that I really wanted the full Google experience (Market, Gmail etc) because it was just so much easier than faffing around with APKs etc.
In less than a week, beyond sitting at my desk, the Tab has become my primary device for Internet and media consumption, and I honestly did not expect that to occur.
Whilst the poor reviews don't affect me directly, I'm concerned that many people would be put off this fantastic device without giving it a fair crack of the ship which I can assure anyone who is sitting on the fence, the Tab most surely deserves!
Regards,
Dave
I tend to agree Dave.
The Tab is one of the best, if not THE best, android device i have used to date (and i have used many).
but its not for everyone and it does have some issues that needs to be addressed (such as the laggy browser).
It does seems like Samsung were able to overcome the issues the SGS had with the SGT and all the power to them.
I do think the reviewers just don't get it.
Some if the reviews i have read are just full of lies and totally biased (see BGR's review).
I really like the stock browser, but it is too laggy compared to others. Samsung should definitely have worked harder on that.
I'm also not convinced by swype on a device of this size but I could be convinced, if I could have swype automatically in portrait and something else in landscape.
Regards,
Dave
I don't think the reviews I've read have been overly negative but I've only read a handful:
Oddly, I found the review on Engadget to be one of the better ones, even if they only scored it 7/10.
They seemed genuinely enthusiastic about the Tab, which flies in the face somewhat of their general pro-Apple bias. I guess it just proves that some of the Engadget writers are genuinely enthusiastic about tech and not just stuff made in Cupertino.
GSMArena, normally a beacon of decent reviews, seemed to get a bit too hung up on trying to compare it to the iPad whilst avoiding declaring one better than the other. That and criticising the price a lot.
They also mentioned issues like the screen having ghosting issues, which I just couldn't reproduce when I used the Tab.
There was a 'review' on the BBC site by one of their tech bloggers which was beyond pitiful.
It just compared web-browsing and playing videos but was so lacking in any genuine insight or intelligence that I would advise not wasting your time on it.
Then the review on BGR, that one really did annoy me.
The reviewer criticised the pixel density of the Tab compared to smartphones and criticised the screen as too small compared to the iPad whilst conveniently ignoring the iPad's poorer pixel density.
If I was being generous, I'd say the review just didn't 'get' the Tab but it smacked much more of pro-Apple bias IMO.
So, one good review, one in-depth but indecisive review, one non-review and one advert for the iPad...
However, reading a lot of the comments left on various sites in response to their reviews, I would say there is a definite lack of 'getting' out there.
A lot of people just don't seem to see the appeal or usefulness of the Tab, which is fair enough everyone's entitled to their opinion but like you Dave, I'm not convinced they've actually given the Tab a fair go before reaching that decision.
Read WIRED review
http://m.wired.com/reviews/2010/11/galaxy_tab/
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Read WIRED review
http://m.wired.com/reviews/2010/11/galaxy_tab/
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For those of us not on a mobile device: http://www.wired.com/reviews/2010/11/galaxy_tab/
well, comparing the tab with full fledge tablet will be useless
as i see it, tab is a phone that have tablet capabilities, considering they're still using FroYo which was a phone OS primarily
but when google OS for Tablet is ready in the market, and the tab get it, Ipad will get some rivalry from galaxy tab for sure, as Ipad cant be used as a phone, at all
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I would say that comparison to any other Android tablets or the iPad is far from useless as they're all running similarly-capable OSs.
True, comparison to something running, say, Win7 would be a bit of a waste of time but I fail to see why comparing a 7" Android tablet to a 10" Android tablet would be useless.
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as i see it, tab is a phone that have tablet capabilities
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And what, if you don't mind me asking, are 'tablet capabilities'?
My vibrant feels so small now.
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Step666 said:
I would say that comparison to any other Android tablets or the iPad is far from useless as they're all running similarly-capable OSs.
True, comparison to something running, say, Win7 would be a bit of a waste of time but I fail to see why comparing a 7" Android tablet to a 10" Android tablet would be useless.
And what, if you don't mind me asking, are 'tablet capabilities'?
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Well let me put my fair understanding on both devices.
IPAD ADV
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- Bigger Screen: More Space for applications, pleasant for the eye
- Brighter Screen
- Longer Battery Life
- Applications tailored just for IPAD
IPAD DISV
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- Heavy.. use on one hand for a long time is just not comfortable.
- Can't Make Call without Jail Breaking / Additional Support
- Bulky, It would mean that you have to carry a bag with you all the time.
- Most of the stuffs don't work in IPAD. e.q. Flash
This is critical for some reason and at least for now, most websites run flash: Videos or Games and it's extremely cumbersome to get the contents to be played on the IPAD. Tethering not working right out of the box (if i remember correctly)
- No support for widgets. why is this important? well, because it's a feature that enable us to glance through information easily or access certain function easily. Plus, it's beautiful and pleasing. Imagine, you want to check your Data Usage, all you have to do is open your screen and you know straight how many have you used instead of opening the program and do a check button again. >.<!!
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- Connectivity: you can make call, browsing using wifi or 3G.
- Light in size and pocket-able on most jeans or clothing.
- All in One? compared to IPAD, you will need an extra pair of device as a phone but with tab, you have it all.
- Device capable for honey comb & ginger bread.
- As android is open source, it's open to development and customization. This would mean that if samsung doesn't make SGT good enough for people, a team or someone can make that customization to provide more battery life, better interface etc.
SGT DISADV
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- Built on TFT technology.. which the screen is slightly distorted on certain angle.
- Compared to IPAD, the battery life sucks. However,
you get widgets, connectivity and multi tasking done right and still it's enough to be used as a daily phone / tablet.
- Not many application tailored for SGTab yet and my feeling about this is the future is a bit unknown .. With so many screen resolutions out. 7inch 8.9inch 10 inch.. it's just making it hard for developer to tailor the application but all in all, the android tablet coming to the market is definite so it's possible that the tailored applications will be growing steadily.
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While ipad offers better battery life, applications, screen and performance. It does have certain disadvantages such as lack of flash support, customization, calls and it's bulky. And for some who wish to have portability and entertainment on the GO, Tab is definitely superior than IPAD in many ways. However, taking apps into consideration, the Apps in IPAD is amazing simply because they are tailored. Android is still evolving. We will see more applications tailored for Android tablet size become available in the near future. Having said that i would say all in all, the pro and cons between these two devices is 50:50 and at the end of the day, it's up to your preference whether you want a device with good apps support but lack portability or you want one with all in and portable.
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I'm the first in line to call a spare a spare (that would be "shovel a shovel" for our American cousins)...
Regards,
Dave
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I believe that should be "call a spade a spade" - for the non-Americans...
-Daniel
Why is everyone comparing to an IPAD...this isnt an IPAD! Forget the reviews....I can show you 100 reviews that say it's a fantastic device....ask the users....
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I believe that should be "call a spade a spade" - for the non-Americans...
-Daniel
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Curse predictive keyboards!
Dave
Sorry for my bad english.
Then my point of view :
The SGT is not the better yes i agree with that.
But for me the point of view is different for everybody. Why ? Because i buy my 'item' because all off my requested features are in my 'item'.
If you havn't yet, look up the review that carrypad has done.
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Why is everyone comparing to an IPAD...this isnt an IPAD! Forget the reviews....I can show you 100 reviews that say it's a fantastic device....ask the users....
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exactly. and also this flash nonsense always. yes we can do flash. but this is not the killer argument here.
this is a handy tablet with a nice os. thats it. and it can be used as a phone too.
it has a great speaker, which makes conference calls very nice.
widgets with that screen size rocks. gamings is brilliant on the device.
there is no need for comparison to some other device. this one is great.
Most of the reviews I've seen have been positive if not amazing, the Giz article is not an outstanding review or the best piece of journalism I've seen!
My iPad is a lounge device, my SGT is my RoadWarrior device. I wouldn't compare them as they fill 2 very different roles for me.
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I'm also not convinced by swype on a device of this size but I could be convinced, if I could have swype automatically in portrait and something else in landscape.
Regards,
Dave
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Hello have you try to use keyboardmanager on the market
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/18/asus-eee-pad-transformer-uk-edition-review/
I'm surprised that they called out quite a few bugs in the software (and the unresponsiveness of the UI). I hope next few OTAs would fix the issues. But being Engadget, I think they have a slight bias.
I truely think there is no such thing as bug-free product. There will be bugs just as long as they aren't damaging to the point they can't be fix...ever. Lengthy review. Hopefully a review like this will not force Asus to delay release.
Its funny reading the comments at Engadget, a lot of negative feedback, towards the transformer and the review
I think the review was good, but it seemed he was nitpicking the littlest things
Particularly the lag issue with the web browser, which i didn't really notice in other review videos
And i am disappointed he didnt take the price into account for the score
I'm not sure about that review - A few things he is correct about and I'd like to see (like a notification light system) but other issues are clearly software related and sped will improve dramatically over the next month or so (I don't actually find it slow).
I have the Asus, the iPad 1 and the NI ADAM, and it is the ASUS I go to. For outdoor viewing I'd use the ADAM but all the other tablets are too reflective unless a matte screen protector is installed, so I don't know why he makes a fuss about it on the Asus.
Just read the review. Agree with most of what they say about it. The camera app isnt good, I get bad fps in videos too. Yes, it's a reflective screen, but then all tablets i've seen are the same. I disagree on the UI responsiveness though. Feels better than the ipad, and i've not had a problem launching apps or clicking on things. I can't comment on the keyboard dock obviously. Yeah it's not a perfect device but then there won't ever be one. There's meant to be a fota update out tomorrow so we'll see what it fixes.
8/10 from me for just the tablet part. Possible 9/10 if the keyboard dock is as they say.
Most if not all of the concerns in that review were regarding software issues.
The UI doesn't lag consistently, for example, the music and gallery apps are both silky smooth and responsive, but the browser struggles quite a bit and the home screen can't keep up if you add too many widgets.
The Asus on screen keyboard does also add a stupid amount of lag, and the camera software is embarrassingly bad.
The good news however is that most, if not all of this stuff should be fixed with a few updates.
flipao said:
Most if not all of the concerns in that review were regarding software issues.
The UI doesn't lag consistently, for example, the music and gallery apps are both silky smooth and responsive, but the browser struggles quite a bit and the home screen can't keep up if you add too many widgets.
The Asus on screen keyboard does also add a stupid amount of lag, and the camera software is embarrassingly bad.
The good news however is that most, if not all of this stuff should be fixed with a few updates.
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Well then looks like I'll be waiting for a few updates before buying then . Keyboard and browser lag on a tablet is unacceptable imo
I did notice that the guy obviously doesn't know that much about Android. For example, the reason that you can't kill apps from the multitasking menu is that you don't need to - Android manages this itself.
Also, it seems like he was reviewing a pre-release model. Things like his comment on the lack of scrollpad multitouch were directly contradicting reports from those who have actually bought the device.
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killermojo said:
Well then looks like I'll be waiting for a few updates before buying then . Keyboard and browser lag on a tablet is unacceptable imo
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If I remember informations from users of Transformer that I read both issues are easy to avoid right now. Keyboard: use different one. Browser: use different one. Done.
It also bugs me in general when people refer to it as a "multitasking menu." It's not--it's a recent apps menu. It'll show an app in the list even if it's no longer actually running, and it's not meant to be a complete list of all running apps.
I clarified my position on engadget reviews two times in the comments below the review. Just look for my name
I can't stand their way of nagging on little things on the one device (as long as it runs Android) and turn a blind eye on it on other devices (as long as they run iOS). I'm not especially an Apple-hater, it's more the general way Engadget reviews without hard facts, their reviews are more a personal opinion instead of a professional review. I would be ok with that when they wouldn't give a rating that will influence potential customers.
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It also bugs me in general when people refer to it as a "multitasking menu." It's not--it's a recent apps menu.
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Sorry! Couldn't think what else to call it!
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I don't know if i can call that Engadget "Review" a Review? So many things left out from it, Things i would of loved to see them show in the Review were.
1.Google Maps (GPS)
2.Polaris office
3.Flash in different websites other than that flash whore Engadget.
4.Asus own apps (DNLA etc)
5.The Keyboard SD slot shown working at the same time with the Micro?
I really hate that they always want to compare it to the Ipad 2 when clearly the apple device lacks gps, flash, and other things but gets praised by the media. the problem i find with that is that is that other websites do the same.
I for one dont care if the camera is buggy because its fixable with an update,i Rather have a working SD slot than a perfect camera its not like im gonna be taking pictures and videos with the tablet. Also when are people going to care that much about pinch to zoom being as "fast" as the ipad? for me as long as it works thats it i hardly use it, i always double tap to zoom in.
Im no expert but i expect the Iphone 4/ Ipad 2 to have fast scrolling left and right i mean it doesnt need to use any real horsepower to draw on screen to those cutesy little blocks on their homescreen called apps when in Honeycomb3.0 you have lots of things happening everything from widgets, notifications, the transitions 3D esque i mean those little things should not really affect the user experience i for one can't wait for this tablet in the us.
It's Engadget, what did you expect?
They have a CLEAR bias towards Apple products. I love how they mention (amongst other things) "the proprietary connector" as being bad. And Apple uses a standard micro USB port on their devices? Right...and they don't say anything when they review these products.
Of the issues they found:
camera lag - yep it's there.
reflective screen - yes, but not as bad as they claim (I use it outside and don't have issues unless I aim the screen to deliberately reflect the sun).
browser lag - not for me. If I scroll as fast as I can on engadget I can get it to stutter a tiny bit, but not as bad as in their video.
Browser zoom issues - no issues for me on most websites - engadget is the buggiest one but that site is so poorly written it can lock my firefox up if left open for a while. As for the incorrect rendering of pages I've not seen it on any site...
Laggy keyboard - yeah the asus one is a little laggy. Switching to the honeycomb stock one instantly fixes that problem though.
Input lag - I laughed at this - it is not lag, but an elasticity effect on moving icons and the unlock button. Basically a deliberate UI effect
Unresponsive touches - I don't get this. Maybe they're holding it wrong
The review failed to look at the quality of the speakers in the transformer, probably as they're pretty good srs surround speakers and the ipad only has a mono speaker which isn't very good, so I won't expect them to cover the speaker quality until the ipad gets better speakers. They also didn't review video chat (again, because a 1.2MP camera would destroy the ipad 2's vga), nor did they look at productivity apps like polaris.
anyone here with the keyboard dock can confirm the problems with the usb and sd slot not working and need to be reboot. also their problem with the tablet not sensing its disconnected with the dock and not allowing the tablet keyboard to load?
also anyone know how much memory can the keyboard dock hold? can you plug in two usb sticks and a sd card at the same time?
I'm glad they mentioned the things they did, hopefully Google/Asus will take note and get them sorted.
Has anyone got the keyboard dock yet, appart from journos? Don't think I've heard of any...
I also like how he states that the touchpad doesn't have multi-touch....when it does.
Horrible review.
Nickedynick said:
I did notice that the guy obviously doesn't know that much about Android. For example, the reason that you can't kill apps from the multitasking menu is that you don't need to - Android manages this itself.
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I know they say that, but I don't buy it on the phones - I find I do need to kill apps.
And the reason for some stutter and lag is exactly because the system tries to do something fails and then gets rid of an app in memory and tries again.
review from homeland of transformer, also done by engadget, chinese engagdet
they have a lot more information on the asus and acer tablets
http://translate.google.com/transla...ansformer-detail/&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
Q & A about the tablet
http://translate.google.com/transla...gadget.com/2011/04/09/25-asus-transformer-qa/
I read this earlier today
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/an...f-baked-at-best/16905?tag=mantle_skin;content
Its a reality check.
Full Disclosure - I own a Samsung Captivate and LOVE it. Never owned a single apple product until I purchased the iPAD2 a few weeks ago. The current plan is to get the Transformer and sell the iPad on ebay. I am on pre-order on Amazon and Target.
After reading that zdnet article I am thinking about cancelling my preorder.
While I like tinkering with stuff (I rooted my Captivate and use Barnacle to make it a free AP for my wifi ipad) ... the fundamental issues with HComb kills my interest.
Here is a followup to the above article ...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/dear-google-heres-your-roadmap-out-of-android-honeycomb-hell/16940
Wow. Well, let me just say that I like Honeycomb just fine. It's not perfect, but it's nowhere near as bad as this guy is letting on. In fact, I think it's pretty damn good overall. I think (and I rarely say this) he must have quite an investment in Apple stock.
Update: The guy referenced Mossberg's review of the G-Slate as representing another voice that agrees with him. However, while Mossberg doesn't like the G-Slate, he has generally good things to say about Honeycomb.
So, in short, the guy's full of ****, generally.
vulcan195 said:
I read this earlier today
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/an...f-baked-at-best/16905?tag=mantle_skin;content
Its a reality check.
Full Disclosure - I own a Samsung Captivate and LOVE it. Never owned a single apple product until I purchased the iPAD2 a few weeks ago. The current plan is to get the Transformer and sell the iPad on ebay. I am on pre-order on Amazon and Target.
After reading that zdnet article I am thinking about cancelling my preorder.
While I like tinkering with stuff (I rooted my Captivate and use Barnacle to make it a free AP for my wifi ipad) ... the fundamental issues with HComb kills my interest.
Here is a followup to the above article ...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/dear-google-heres-your-roadmap-out-of-android-honeycomb-hell/16940
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Erma ...... 24 hours in and I've found honeycomb no more buggy than early froyo of gingerbread ........ found a few bugs but they are mostly software rather the os.
I believe even the 'mighty' iPhone 4 had a few teething problems ...... like not being able to make calls!?
The point is that technology is moving fast. You are either an early adopter (and therefore tolerant of a few quirks) or a late adopter living with last years tech.
Either is good. Just take your pick ..... early or late .....
i wouldnt change your mind because of one or two articles, ive owned ipads in my time and sold them all, mainly because its not "your"tablet so to speak
Got my AsusTF yesterday and it took all of about 1 hour to feel at home with the device, yes it operates differently to froyo and Gbread (own a galaxy s hacked to bits) but in all fairness it works pretty well imho.
Yes you get the odd force close, and yep a few apps just wont work but the majority do and pretty well.
Multitasking is the best ive seen on this type of device, the hardware is tops, the screen (if you get a good one lol) is ace, it nevers drops a connection, has great battery life and the gps is pretty damn accurate and fast, can the ipad wifi version do that? nope.
Overall im more than happy with the tf and trust me if i dont like an item within a few hours it goes on ebay, however this is a keeper i think.
And for christ sake yes the market can be random at times but never had a failed install like he claims, but seeing as the first pieces of hardware containing honeycomb have only just been released its unfair to state there are not enough apps, give it a few months and the market will be flooded.
Sounds like the guy was having an off day to be honest lol
And in all fairness the majority of people on xda will nearly always be beta testers as he puts it, but with devices running how we want them and pushed to the max, in theory what we have at the moment is a freshly plastered brick wall, just waiting for us to slap whatever we want on it how WE see fit and create a canvas we like, cant say that about the ipad!
If you let online articles sway your purchases, then you deserve exactly what you get.
I'm sorry but as a honeycomb user I can see that those articles are a load of rubbish. He complains that barely no apps work without crashing and that the market doesn't work which is odd as it is completely against what I have seen with huge numbers of apps working installed from the market. The second article goes on about a lack of experience at google - as if the developers and designers there had never worked on anything like an os before and that there is no way developers can read and learn from the development of other operating systems (a load of rubbish, just like the rest of the content in those articles).
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If his point is that Honeycomb appeals to a different kind of user then the ipad, well ... duh. If you want something you can hand to grandma and have her launching apps in a few seconds, by all means, go iPad.Honeycomb and Android in general require more work from the user to customize the experience, and Honeycomb definitely requires more patience due to its rawness, and that is pretty well known at this point. So if you buy a Transformer expecting an iPad, I will gladly take one off anyones hands because I know several folks dying to jump in.
I hope you've had a chance to read other reviews and hear first impressions from users here on xda. The zdnet articles are one persons opinion. I've had my Transformer for about 48 hours and I am absotely thrilled with the tablet! I Love Honeycomb and have had a great experience so far. Also, keep in mind the price difference... that article is based on the Xoom... without an IPS screen, lighter and at $399 like the TF.
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I came from 2.3 and 2.2. I bought the transformer FOR the ultimate honeycomb experience
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I am digging honeycomb so far. Yes every so often it gets a little choppy here and there. I've had more force closes when I bought an ipad 1 at release than I've had with honeycomb, and you can do so much more, like use a keyboard you actually like nor the one Steve tells you is the right one.
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And aren't you doing the same thing by trying to dissuade someone from being dissuaded......online?
I had read the article and never experienced the problems with Honeycomb which Jason Perlow had. With any 1st generation Honeycomb tablets there are going to be a few software issues but these should be fixed with downloadable updates.
I thought that this was a blogger trying to generate a story rather than a proper review of Honeycomb or the Xoom.
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And aren't you doing the same thing by trying to dissuade someone from being dissuaded......online?
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Point is he's allowing one article to change his mind. There are plenty of reviews out there that state HC is a work in progress, and the ride is bumpy right now. If he'd read more articles/reviews and stated that he'd done his research and HC was not for him, then great, happy trails and enjoy the iPad, it's a neat device. But taking one person's opinion and saying, "Well, that seals it!" is a little rash.
At least that's how I took the guy's response about letting an article change your mind.
The article author acts like google will never update honeycomb lol
Google IO is coming up, and i am sure they will announce an update to honeycomb
(Adobe already hinted)
I think honeycomb is great, but the lack of tablet apps does suck, i agree with that
But remember that Honeycomb only was released 4 months ago, it will pick up soon
worst article ever.
go online and 80-90% of articles have a POSITIVE review on honeycomb.
does honeycomb has it's issues? hell yes. but so did android 1.0, 1.5, and 1.6. and hell even the latest versions of android and iOS have issues.
is honeycomb beta? yeah, but so was android, and still is.
I've had a decent amount of force closes in the browser and have had to force a shut down a couple times, but honestly, i still love the tablet and i love honeycomb because honeycomb is an ACTUAL tablet OS, where as the ipad is nothing more than an oversized iphone, with less quality.
Honeycomb will get better. and The transformer is an amazing deal and well worth the buy.
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The article author acts like google will never update honeycomb lol
Google IO is coming up, and i am sure they will announce an update to honeycomb
(Adobe already hinted)
I think honeycomb is great, but the lack of tablet apps does suck, i agree with that
But remember that Honeycomb only was released 4 months ago, it will pick up soon
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I agree it will be nice to get some apps that explicitly take advantage of the bigger screen, but unlike the iPad (I have owned one since they came out in the UK), Android phone apps generally work well on the tablets. On iPad upscaled apps were dreadfully pixellated in the 2x zoom mode, or ridiculous looking floating in the middle of the screen with huge boarders. For the honeycomb tablets, the apps can look a little spaced out, but they generally look fine and work well. More to the point, they often just take advantage of the additional space seamlessly.
My problem is with the comparison between the stability of the iPad's iOS with Honeycomb.
iOS is literally a homescreen. Without apps it is nothing; with apps it's just a wallpaper with hundreds of tiles barfed up onto a few scrolling pages. So yes, Scrolling between the pages can be butter smooth, but it's like saying "I can swim through this water faster than you can swim through that custard." since Honeycomb stands on its own even without any additional applications, and even the home app is 3-Dimensionally oriented with multiple widgets constantly fetching data and displaying animations, and animated wallpapers.
I also hate people comparing Honeycomb tablets with the iPad 2, since Honeycomb is a year behind Apple, so we should compare both initial releases. I remember reading reviews for the original iPad and while people swooned over the revolutionary and magical product (sarcasm), the unbiased reviewers complained about the lack of apps for a long time, the constant crashing, the sluggishness, so Google has done a fantastic Job of competing with the second iPad with their first attempt.
Edit: It's also much easier for apple to write software for 1 set of hardware, where Android has to accommodate for varying specifications (screen size, RAM, [currently only Tegra 2 is supported {I think} but more with be added], Screen type, varying resolutions, different peripherals etc, which is bound to take longer to iron out and will probably never reach the same efficiency.
DISCLAIMER: I am by no means a Fandroid, and I think Google's biggest flaw is that they don't completely fix problems before adding some new shiny feature, adding even more bugs. While I love the new features, I can't stand thinking how efficient Android would be if they spent a longer time fixing things, rather than releasing NEARLY-finished features.
This guy's arguments are outdated and full of hyperbole. Don't listen to him.
You expect there to be a certain level of polish and maturity on the software in a $600.00 consumer device. The problem is, there’s nothing at all polished about a Honeycomb tablet.
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Now, there are cheaper tablets with similar hardware: the Acer Iconia, Asus Transformer, and the upcoming galaxy tab. Nothing at all polished? Hyperbole! Plenty of things feel polished to me. Simple, intuitive multitasking. Awesome built-in apps. Easy and intuitive way of adding widgets. I could go on and on.
On the first page of the article, he only makes a single argument that isn't just ranting (it's still full of hyperbole, however):
While there are well over 100,000 applications available for Android, 99.99 percent of them are not properly optimized to run at the higher screen resolution on Honeycomb tablets.
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First thing: he can't do math. 99.99 percent is 99990. 100000-99990=10. Is he seriously saying there are only 10 tablet apps optimized for honeycomb? He's got to be kidding me. I know the math isn't the point, but this immediately shows what kind of writer he is.
However plenty just plain crash, do weird and strange unexpected things, have UI elements placed in unusual or unusable areas, or just refuse to install... This issue is made even worse by the fact that the re-vamped Android Market on Honeycomb is just plain broken. It blows up constantly and fails to install applications at least half of the time.
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Again, BS and exaggeration. Most apps work great. I've only had a couple force closes. Nothing beyond the norm: even my iPod touch apps kill themselves without warning (battleheart, infinity blade...etc.). His argument about the market has some merit: it had some hiccups yesterday with the "see more details" bug, and it does occasionally fc. But he's exaggerating again: the market doesn't blow up constantly or fail to install apps. On the contrary, I've had a pleasant experience with it: the layout is nicely optimized for tablets, apps have installed on first click, and the market rarely "blows up."
Just trying to wrap my head around the way and where the menus are supposed to show up in Honeycomb and where UI and control elements are buried gives me a headache, and it doesn’t behave the way I expect it to.
By comparison, if you give an iPad to someone who has been using iPhones or iPod Touches, they’ll know exactly how it’s supposed to work.
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Are you serious? It's not difficult at all to figure out how it works. By now, a lot of my friends have used my tablet. They have had no problem whatsoever. I suspect his problems come from the shifting menu button. Here, let me spell it out for you: on a tablet-optimized app, menu button is in the top right. Otherwise, it will be on the bottom left.
In conclusion, take his arguments with 99 truckloads of salt.
That moving menu button does annoy the hell out of me, though...
Google needs to pick a part of the screen and make sure it sticks there whether it's a HC app or not.
I'll touch on everyone elses points im sure with this but here goes:
That was a funny read. Love the way they compare success to number of units sold, rather than actual revenue made from overall sales.
While honeycomb is still in it's infancy, it's come a long way in a few short months. Unfortunately some people don't seem to realise that with more options and customisation of a device, the more problems can arise. Having a fixed OS that is locked down will of course always be smoother than one which is open, as there are less things to test and make compatible with each other.
I've always seen apple products as something you can just pick up, it will work first time, it has simple controls, but it will do a basic job. Things have improved over the years in making it feel a bit more advanced though to be fair.
With android devices, and honeycomb, I see more options to customise, and more options to explore, with a freedom to basically do whatever you want, only limited by the hardware.
At the end of the day, they are quite different beasts for different people. I guess i'm a google-ite, as I see their approach to their work as inspirational. It seems as if they are willing to experiment more, and release their work freely for others to edit or grow on top of. They're not focussed on sales figures, more a method of growth to show off and expand on people's creative sides. Of course it's all about public image, apple always seems to be quite greedy in trying to make money from every little thing, and google makes their money by cleverly hiding it in the background with advertising etc.
I've had both apple and android devices btw. Liking honeycomb more than I thought I would. I've not had a Xoom and maybe they really are as crap as he says they are. Just glad I have the transformer.
Ok, so as a brit I got the new firmware this morning and the increased stability has really highlighted what a great concept and execution the Transformer and dock is (its now starting to show its true potential and that's in no small part to the exchange of info here on xda and the efforts of Asus to get fixes and updates out)
So.. the build quality has disappointed some people.. and delighted others..
So.. the NEW Galaxy tab is garnering plaudits with some stellar reviews about the sceen and form factor (lighter than the ipad 2! thinner than the ipad 2! etc...)
However.... showing this bit of kit to techies and non techies alike.. the potential is really starting to surprise people. Its a netbook, but it isn't.. its got insane battery life.. its a tablet with a pretty stunning screen.. its a netbook wtih a stunning screen.. Honeycomb is a lot more flexible than people realise.. etc etc..
I should caveat this with a disclaimer that (so far) I've been one of the 'lucky ones' with a unit with few if any quality control issues.. and perhaps ASUS need to ramp up in that department if the posts here about build quality issues are any barometer.. but so far, this is a kick ass bit of kit and IMHO thoroughly deserves the title of 'The New Hotness' - there's nothing out there like it
We need more positive threads like this.
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I've found that people don't really "get it" when I just describe how the TF is both a tablet and a netbook. However, when I _show_ them by popping it on and off the keyboard, suddenly the lightbulb seems to always go off. Makes for a great demo, and of course, it's just generally cool...
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Agreed... well written.
It will be perfect with 3.1 and an oc kernel that runs as fast as my gtab.
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Agreed that conceptually this is a great product.
I am on my second and both tablets suffer from built issues most notably significant light bleed.
If stock was more available I would like to exchange for a third and hope to get one that works just right but it is consitently out of stock and feels like a lottery to get one only to be let down when it copmes flawed.
Any of you having these issues?
Am I just being over picky about the light bleed?
Still can't get a keyboard here in Seattle
Well, after I got the Transformer, I envied the people that got the Galaxy Tab at the Google IO. Then I played with one and then I realized that if I had the choice, I'd go with the Transformer. And my wife, she now wants everything in the house to be Asus.
They say light bleed. I had to search for it a lot to find it. They say creakiness and I also had to twist the Transformer hardly to hear it. They said a lot of bad things, but you know what I think? Only people who have problems write comments and try to discuss their problems with the community and trying to fix it. But pleased people always stay away.
Anyway, I think the Transformer is the best compared to all the others and it is worth more that $400...
Theres a lot of love for this tablet, warts and all.. bring on Honeycomb 3.1... Definitely favour a stability release over a feature release at this stage
I am also very happy with mine. There is a little light bleed, but nothing I find bothersome. Way better than the iPad.
The docking station is the killer component of the system. With it the transformer changes from a device best suited to consumption to a device that can effectively create content. This is a huge advantage to me.
Jerry
PS. Glad to hear the new update made it to the UK. Mine received it the day I bought it and I have never had these sleep of death or other problems that occurred before the update.
Loving mine so far. With the last update the dock works even better. Now my ipad sits on a shelf.
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I am also very happy with mine. There is a little light bleed, but nothing I find bothersome. Way better than the iPad.
The docking station is the killer component of the system. With it the transformer changes from a device best suited to consumption to a device that can effectively create content. This is a huge advantage to me.
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Yeah, reading that comparison thread of the four office products in the Apps & Themes section really brings home the content creation side of things... now for more music creation apps (iOS has a huge lead here)
Overaill, I guess the satisfied users will just have to evangelise the Transformers merits some more - but the lightbulb going on in peoples' heads when they see it in action (as was mentioned earlier) is really satisfying especially when its people who think tablets begin and end with Apple
I think only the really "anal" are harping on the light bleed and creaking.
Honestly the average consumer probably won't even notice these issues.
I notice, but really don't care that much.
There's slight creaking when bending it hard....but really is that affecting my user experience? Not really...maybe it speaks to build quality, which isn't THAT bad.
Light bleed...if i focus reaalllllly hard on the bottom right hand corner on a fully black screen I can see it....but everyday usage it goes unnoticed.
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I think only the really "anal" are harping on the light bleed and creaking.
Honestly the average consumer probably won't even notice these issues.
I notice, but really don't care that much.
There's slight creaking when bending it hard....but really is that affecting my user experience? Not really...maybe it speaks to build quality, which isn't THAT bad.
Light bleed...if i focus reaalllllly hard on the bottom right hand corner on a fully black screen I can see it....but everyday usage it goes unnoticed.
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Or perhaps you're making your own assumptions on the lack of severity of other peoples light bleed problems or whatever? They're not all the same you know.
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I think only the really "anal" are harping on the light bleed and creaking.
Honestly the average consumer probably won't even notice these issues.
I notice, but really don't care that much.
There's slight creaking when bending it hard....but really is that affecting my user experience? Not really...maybe it speaks to build quality, which isn't THAT bad.
Light bleed...if i focus reaalllllly hard on the bottom right hand corner on a fully black screen I can see it....but everyday usage it goes unnoticed.
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I guess I am anal then. I don't expect perfection but I don't need to search for light bleed I only need to view a dark background like a movie trailer in a dark room to see 4-5 patches of it along the bottom.
This has now happened on 2 different models so can't attribute it to a rare lemon.
As for creaking my first one was bad. The top and bottom bronze medal would click when holding it which was annoying.
The new one is much better in that regard. But the right side of the back plastic kind of gives when I first hold it.
So yes I am anal that I want my nearly 600$ tablet to have better build. But I also recognize the brilliance of the concept and if I can get one with less screen bleed I would be in love instead of on the fence to return.
I think the light bleed issue is somewhat inherent in the panel technology. The iPad seems to suffer light bleeds quite a lot and it seems to be somewhat worse in the new one. I also hear the new iPad is more fragile than the old one since Apple glued down the screen to make it thinner.
love my eee pad
I am really in love with my transformer.
I have a very light cracking on the right side....that's all.No hardware trouble at all.
I really LIKE HC, even it's not perfect, yet But it has a lot of potential for the future.
Most of the time the transformer runs smoothly and without trouble.
I gotta say this is the best tech device i have brought in ages.
Anyone whop knows me can guage how good a bit of tech is by how long it takes for me to whack it on ebay (normally a week lol) however the TF is just perfect for what i need.
Having owned 2 ipads and a galaxy tab i gotta say imho that this beats them all hands down. The dock makes a huge difference and turns a device which is mainly a concumption device into an excellent all rounder. It turns from a "i dont need it but its cool" device into a laptop/netbook replacement for most day to day tasks.
Ok you still need a pc if your into photoshop or video conversions etc but my gen 2 core i5 has just sat there limp and lonely for the last two weeks, basking in the shadows caused by this monolithic beauty.
When reading reviews before mine arrived i was worried about QC however i have come to realise that nothing will ever be perfect for everyone, and yes if you have a fault then you have the right to swap it. But am i going to go looking for faults NO, i have spent a nice £400 quid plus on this unit and you know what im gonna enjoy it for what it is!.
I love Samsung always have done but then again i have also always owned asus pc gear and know that there support generally is second to none let alone the reliability of there products. Hell lets not forget who invented the netbook in the first place, and while Apple may of have made the tablet popular Asus have made it USEFULL
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I gotta say this is the best tech device i have brought in ages.
Anyone whop knows me can guage how good a bit of tech is by how long it takes for me to whack it on ebay (normally a week lol) however the TF is just perfect for what i need.
Having owned 2 ipads and a galaxy tab i gotta say imho that this beats them all hands down. The dock makes a huge difference and turns a device which is mainly a concumption device into an excellent all rounder. It turns from a "i dont need it but its cool" device into a laptop/netbook replacement for most day to day tasks.
Ok you still need a pc if your into photoshop or video conversions etc but my gen 2 core i5 has just sat there limp and lonely for the last two weeks, basking in the shadows caused by this monolithic beauty.
When reading reviews before mine arrived i was worried about QC however i have come to realise that nothing will ever be perfect for everyone, and yes if you have a fault then you have the right to swap it. But am i going to go looking for faults NO, i have spent a nice £400 quid plus on this unit and you know what im gonna enjoy it for what it is!.
I love Samsung always have done but then again i have also always owned asus pc gear and know that there support generally is second to none let alone the reliability of there products. Hell lets not forget who invented the netbook in the first place, and while Apple may of have made the tablet popular Asus have made it USEFULL
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Must say, I feel the same way about the Transformer. Since purchasing it I seem to be taking it everywhere with me like my phone. Did not think I would become that attached to a gadget even my wife is starting to get jealous!!!
I love my transformer too! It's an awesome piece of kit!
I bought an iPad2 the day after it launched (I managed to wander into a local store and they had one in stock!) and returned it a week later. There's no 'killer app' really, garageband was pretty cool and some of the games were nice, but as I already own an iPhone4, there was nothing I could do on the iPad that I couldn't do with my phone, and in fact as I've jailbroken my phone, I actually found the iPad very restrictive!
What really got me was having to jump through hoops wearing clown shoes with butter smeared on the bottom of them just to get any media on the iPad. I don't use iPhoto for my pictures and I don't buy movies from iTunes, so was fairly boned in terms of getting stuff on the device easily. With my transformer I just plug it in, and drag and drop! Or use wifi file transfer! Or use the microSD or SDHC on the dock! Or use the built in DNLA! So many options!
I've had my transformer for over a month now, and I still haven't sold or returned it! I will admit I've been lucky with mine, the only real problems I have are apps crashing a bit more often than I'd like them to. Everything else works wonderfully!
Compared to the iPoo, on my transformer I have a bunch of HD movies (including Avatar, which looks AMAZING!), loads of photos that the gallery just picks up on automatically, a few games, including fpse with final fantasy 7, 8 & 9, super puzzle fighter 2 turbo and a bunch of others, and a web browsing experience that actually works on pretty much every website I've been to! And I won't even bother mentioning the dock, and how many benefits that brings to an already great tablet!
Apple could learn a lot from the flash implementation! Practically the only use I found for the iPad was as a couch-based web browser, and without flash, that's pretty useless too!
Add that to the fact that there aren't as many decent tablet apps for the iPad as most of the media would have you believe (I spent a week looking for apps for the iPad2, and couldn't really find anything that wowed me), and the iPhone apps look terrible on the iPad, and it leads me to the conclusion that most of the people who praise the iPad over a device like the transformer have either sub-par intelligence, are living under a rock as far as knowing how tech works, or have fingers like pork pies (extremely fat).
Pretty much everyone I've shown my transformer too has been very impressed by it, and I know at least 10 of them are now trying to source their own transformers! I work in a big office full of techie people, so that number will probably increase! I kinda wish I could get some form of commission!
If I had to say anything bad about my transformer it's that the marketing behind video playback on tegra 2 devices has been a bit misleading. I have handbrake on my PC and mac and have saved templates that create lovely running HD files, but when I bought my transformer, I was kinda under the impression that it would play almost anything, what with the marketing touting "Full 1080p playback".
The only advice I have offered people is "if you don't have a tablet already, and you're not in any rush, keep an eye out on the upcoming tegra 3 tablets. They will handle pretty much any video resolution and encoding, and if you're planning on waiting a couple of months before getting a tablet, it *may* be worth holding out for the tegra 3."
Apparently the tegra 3 can handle resolutions up to 2560x1600, so it should handle high profile 1080p video fine, according to this demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPN3hHI9y-E
I just hope more can be eeked out of the tegra 2 chips, so I don't have to transcode every HD movie I want to watch on my transformer!
Although that said, other than that minor annoyance, I think my transformer is one of the best gadgets I've ever owned, and I like my gadge! Plus, it allows me to browse the net and remote control my home PC from work, with it tethered by bluetooth to my iphone. Pleasing.
Sorry for the long post, can't help gushing about the transformer sometimes! haha!
I've mostly assumed that because the iPad2, Asus TF, and Xoom all use IPS panels, they would have the same visual quality. I also assumed that they all have about the same sensitivity to touch.
After reading some responses in other threads regarding using a stylus for hand writing notes, some people indicated that it's WAY easier to write on the iPad2. Not sure if this is due to hardware (better sensitivity) or software (better apps).
Can anyone shed some light on the issue? Not sure how Apple and Asus (and others) implement the capacitive touch sensors. Does the touch sensing have anything to do with the IPS screen?
Any iPad users comment on this? So, trying to be as objective as possible, without feeling loyal to either Asus or Apple
From a later post in this thread:
if we re-frame the original post question in terms of how much room there is for improvement on the Asus with software updates?
Can our Transformer be a bit MORE adequate for pen style note taking someday? Is there a hardware limitation, or software? Can it reach, say, iPad2 levels of pen style note taking performance?
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Are you talking about speculation? Because we're treading into flaming waters here.
If someone says the iPad 2 is better in terms of touch recognition the fanboys will come out of the woodwork and ask for expert witness testimonial or scientific data. For the reverse scenario, it's generally acceptable without either.
The same people who claimed that it was factually inaccurate to claim these units have ****ty build quality without proof on paper will also claim that it is impossible to talk about this subject because there is no proof about anything.
So if you're asking this question seriously it's under the expectation that we're all assuming. Even then it's not possible to positively argue for either side because we have no idea how they handle the implementation. It could be both software and hardware. iOS could make up for hardware shortfalls by modifications to software, do we know if this is certain? No. These are trade secrets. The TF does have ten finger/touchpoint input recognition if I'm correct. I don't really care about pen input if it can't do ten finger input.
i bought a cheap (OK very cheap) stylus from ebay and didnt find it very useable but i think that was the rubber stylus 'dragging' on the glass rather than anything else.....
I haven't really played with an ipad 2 much (being generally anti-apple ) so i can't really compare.
That said, i don't think the stock asus keyboard is all that great. I've installed Hackers keyboard and that works like a charm. If only swype was available for tablets ...
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I haven't really played with an ipad 2 much (being generally anti-apple ) so i can't really compare.
That said, i don't think the stock asus keyboard is all that great. I've installed Hackers keyboard and that works like a charm. If only swype was available for tablets ...
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Swype Beta 3.5 is available and it has a resizable/movable keyboard for Honeycomb tablets. Give it a shot.
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I've mostly assumed that because the iPad2, Asus TF, and Xoom all use IPS panels, they would have the same visual quality. I also assumed that they all have about the same sensitivity to touch.
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Xoom is not a IPS panel its a TFT panel, so the picture quality not equal to both the TF and ipad.
I own a transformer and iphone4, and I've played with my sister's ipad2 quite a bit. I like the transformer but in no way are the touch sensitivities alike. The ipad2 is better. It does not lag at all and I get way more miss hits on the transformer using light touches.
It could be the lack of flash, but I'm hoping it's just a software issue for the transformer. As I was typin this on my transformer the thumb keyboard kept hiding itself and then the browser crashed about a minute later (dolphin hd browser). I'm typing this on my iPhone which is way quicker for me without crashes.
Take t however you like, but to me, the iPad wins in touch usability. I'm still not selling this thing though. For the extra things it can do, it's great!
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I've mostly assumed that because the iPad2, Asus TF, and Xoom all use IPS panels, they would have the same visual quality. I also assumed that they all have about the same sensitivity to touch.
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I am confused here.....are you saying that you believe that all IPS Panels have Touch? Because they do not.
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I am confused here.....are you saying that you believe that all IPS Panels have Touch? Because they do not.
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Yes I think there is a lot of confusion indeed. The display technology and the capacitive touch interface have nothing to do with each other, other than the fact they live in the same piece of hardware.
In theory it is possible the iPad has better touch receptors than the TF-101, but having used both I can say that in my opinion it does not. If you are experiencing problems using a stylus, I would investigate the stylus, not the tablet.
ok, scratch the parts about IPS screens, I understand now that the sensing technology is different from the display technology - OP.
But, to my point, it does seem like there's consensus on Apple's touch performance being better than the Asus TF.
I wonder if this is a hardware issue (not solvable) or a software issue (hope for future improvement)?
The touch screen is beyond most capacitive devices, imo. There was a thread a while back with the standard touch screen test done, and the TF showed some bending around the edges but was otherwise a-okay. The touch screen works amazing for typing on a keyboard or doing general apps. As far as handwriting or painting goes, it performs, but it's not the best.
It's by no means unacceptable.
If I were worried about precise handwriting or drawing, I'd get a Windows Tablet PC with an active digitizer. Or, an HTC Flyer, which has one as well. No capacitive touch screen will ever provide much precision--they're simply not made to do so.
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If I were worried about precise handwriting or drawing, I'd get a Windows Tablet PC with an active digitizer. Or, an HTC Flyer, which has one as well. No capacitive touch screen will ever provide much precision--they're simply not made to do so.
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Yup, I can appreciate that thought. But, if we re-frame the original post question in terms of how much room there is for improvement on the Asus with software updates?
Can our Transformer be a bit MORE adequate for pen style note taking someday? Is there a hardware limitation, or software? Can it reach, say, iPad2 levels of pen style note taking performance?
...I know people will say that if you want iPad2 performance, buy an iPad2...but that's not the point. I started this thread with the intention of learning more about the product, not to bash it or to say how much better iPad2 is.
It will indeed be interesting to see if future software updates improve the accuracy/sensitivity of the TF.
I own both an iPad and a TF. I don't really notice a difference in screen usability - mostly just that iOS is incredibly smooth but boring as hell and the TF is a little less smooth but much more interactive - in that sense it gets easy to confuse the actual sensor quality with OS/application level responsiveness.
My little brother (iphone fanboy) swears that there is a huge difference between the two.
Yeah, sometimes it's difficult to compare the two head to head. You have to disable widgets and maybe the active wall paper on the Asus.
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Yup, I can appreciate that thought. But, if we re-frame the original post question in terms of how much room there is for improvement on the Asus with software updates?
Can our Transformer be a bit MORE adequate for pen style note taking someday? Is there a hardware limitation, or software? Can it reach, say, iPad2 levels of pen style note taking performance?
...I know people will say that if you want iPad2 performance, buy an iPad2...but that's not the point. I started this thread with the intention of learning more about the product, not to bash it or to say how much better iPad2 is.
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I would believe so. I dont know as much about the sensitivity but the response. I remember there was a lag and some gestures getting broken by bad sensitivity on my Evo when it first came out but a kernel update really changed it. It opened up more contact points (originally HTC had it capped at two) and the response was much better.
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I own a transformer and iphone4, and I've played with my sister's ipad2 quite a bit. I like the transformer but in no way are the touch sensitivities alike. The ipad2 is better. It does not lag at all and I get way more miss hits on the transformer using light touches.
It could be the lack of flash, but I'm hoping it's just a software issue for the transformer. As I was typin this on my transformer the thumb keyboard kept hiding itself and then the browser crashed about a minute later (dolphin hd browser). I'm typing this on my iPhone which is way quicker for me without crashes.
Take t however you like, but to me, the iPad wins in touch usability. I'm still not selling this thing though. For the extra things it can do, it's great!
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My wife has a Ipad it does seem more touch responsive at times. it of course uses a different OS. Apples and Oranges.
I was at BB the other day checking out the new Sammy 10.1 it seemed so responsive and fast but when I got back home to my TF it was about the same. Perspective.
I get the similar crashes in Dolphin HD (which isn't really tablet specific yet), I also get even more crashes among other things in Maxthon pad ..which is supposed to be for a pad, I also get them in the stock browser according to what I'm doing, flash etc. Some sites where I am typing in a message or a response the keyboard closes at weird times and isn't as responsive ...I have similar problems on those sites with my laptop. It doesn't close cause I'm typing on my keyboard but it doesn't act right.
Dolphin is getting better with each release...but all is relatively new and the bugs are not out. I'm keeping my TF and I'll just have to deal with it.
Maybe the IPad si more responsive because the software is more simple and does not stress the hardware, like Honeycomb does?
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Maybe the IPad si more responsive because the software is more simple and does not stress the hardware, like Honeycomb does?
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In large part, this is true. A lot of issues with lag are mistaken for responsiveness on the touch screen's part. Android has a lot more running at any given time than iOS, so it won't be as smooth. It's a trade-off.
Not that I am contributing anything to the discussion, but people who find the asus keyboard crappy and are not comfortable with swyping on a tablet(don't get me wrong, I m currently swyping on my captivate, love it !), I would definitely recommend to you thumb keyboard. I live on it. My transformer lives on it. Its as integrated part of my tablet as swype is for my captivate. They just are perfect together. Holding it with 2 hands, so that I don't find it heavy while I read books for long periods, our read comics or browse the net, typing feels so natural on it. Plus they added key resizing for different finger sizes! Imo, that should be the honeycomb default keyboard. Try it.
Ps-m not related or affiliated in any ways to the dev. I just love his work.
Pps- screw ipad. just kidding. Maybe.
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