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[Q] UI responsiveness not quite up to par--why?

I haven't seen any posts commenting on this issue too directly. I played with the Xoom in the Verizon store and noticed that although the UI animations were pretty smooth (with the exception of the app list fly-in, the rotation, and the page-turning in the reader, which all had a little frame stutter), the touch responsiveness in general still just wasn't quite up to par with the Ipad. When scrolling through homescreens there's a small but noticeable delay before the screen actually starts to scroll, whereas with the Ipad the scrolling seems to begin instantly. The Xoom is similar in feel to the Galaxy S phones, which were smooth but not quite as responsive as IOS, whose instantaneous responsiveness just inspires more confidence when you're navigating the device.
Ultimately it's a small difference but one that makes a big difference in the perception of the device's responsiveness. Is this a hardware or software issue? If Honeycomb finally has hardware acceleration, why are IOS and WP7 still ahead in this department? Is it because Android's more complex homescreens require more power to scroll? Is this due to something inherent in Android and Java? Is it possible that a future Honeycomb update might fix this completely? If someone with some expertise in the subject can comment on this, I'd really appreciate it. I fully expected Honeycomb to kill any complaints people could have about UI responsiveness, but it just doesn't seem to have happened yet, and I haven't seen any thorough explanation for it. Thanks a lot.

I just pulled out my Xoom and tested each of the things you talked about.
Auto rotation is slower than my phone.
Everything else is instant... though I have not used the reader. I have noticed stutter in the Kindle app.
But in the main UI, scrolling home screens and app list fly in is instant.
I have head of the auto rotate complaint and Kindle page turning complaint in other comments in this board and others... but the main UI? Nope.
I do not know what was the situation with the Xoom in the Verizon store, but in my personal usage the problem you describe does not exist... I think if it did on a wide basis, you would hear about it.
Describing something as a Hardware vs. Software issue in this case is non-productive. In every instance you can start with the hardware and say if it had more "oomph", you can often make a problem go away. Most issues like this can be dealt with in Software. The only time the whole thing is problematic is if the hardware is so underpowered in relation to what the software is trying to do. My guess is these things that are definitely happening (rotate, slow page turn) can be fixed in software, especially on this hardware.
My experience on the Android platforms is future updates fix first release issues.
My experience is also that extending future OS versions to hardware that cannot support them can be problematic, but Apple has experienced the same issue.

I have to agree that this is not as quick as I thought it would be.
I am blaming it on an app maybe, so I am removing everything back to stock.
The app list fly in is the worst. Looks better on my evo.

hctarks said:
I haven't seen any posts commenting on this issue too directly. I played with the Xoom in the Verizon store and noticed that although the UI animations were pretty smooth (with the exception of the app list fly-in, the rotation, and the page-turning in the reader, which all had a little frame stutter), the touch responsiveness in general still just wasn't quite up to par with the Ipad. When scrolling through homescreens there's a small but noticeable delay before the screen actually starts to scroll, whereas with the Ipad the scrolling seems to begin instantly. The Xoom is similar in feel to the Galaxy S phones, which were smooth but not quite as responsive as IOS, whose instantaneous responsiveness just inspires more confidence when you're navigating the device.
Ultimately it's a small difference but one that makes a big difference in the perception of the device's responsiveness. Is this a hardware or software issue? If Honeycomb finally has hardware acceleration, why are IOS and WP7 still ahead in this department? Is it because Android's more complex homescreens require more power to scroll? Is this due to something inherent in Android and Java? Is it possible that a future Honeycomb update might fix this completely? If someone with some expertise in the subject can comment on this, I'd really appreciate it. I fully expected Honeycomb to kill any complaints people could have about UI responsiveness, but it just doesn't seem to have happened yet, and I haven't seen any thorough explanation for it. Thanks a lot.
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I'm not finding the same issues you are. The orientation delay is 100% intentional. I wish there were built in options that let you mess with the delay, but that will happen soon enough. I don't mind or notice this intentional lag in daily use.
I'm not finding any other lack of smoothness. I've played with iOS on many different devices, and I find my Xoom to be just as smooth. The iOS devices were smoother than my Droid X (always have been smoother than my phones), but I like what powerful hardware mixed with Honeycomb has shown me.

I'd certainly love to be wrong about this. Maybe it was the display unit that was faulty. But even though the homescreen scrolling was perfectly "smooth," it was more the delay in response that bothered me. When I set my finger down and swiped from one screen to another, there was always a very short, split-second delay before the screen started moving, which felt as if my finger was "slipping" for a few millimeters before gripping the homescreen. This probably isn't even something that I would have noticed if I hadn't been comparing it side-by-side with the display-unit Ipad, which, in comparison, seemed to start scrolling without even the tiniest delay, which ultimately gave the Ipad app list a more authentic sense of tactility.
It looks like Bielinsk is having a similar experience, so we know this isn't a completely isolated phenomenon. Maybe both Bielinsk's and my experience had to do with the specific units and installed apps, but even the possibility that installing a certain app can degrade the whole UI experience on Honeycomb seems to be a problem that IOS is less prone to. I've also read reviews, such as the one on Anandtech, that note that smoothness in Honeycomb is improved but not quite at IOS-level. Again, I hope I'm wrong. Everything else about Honeycomb seems fantastic, but the not-as-responsive-as-IOS issue just seems like something that Android can't fully shake.

Bielinsk said:
I have to agree that this is not as quick as I thought it would be.
I am blaming it on an app maybe, so I am removing everything back to stock.
The app list fly in is the worst. Looks better on my evo.
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Please update us on whether wiping fixes the problem for you.

I uninstalled all the apps that are not Tablet apps and have the same issue.
Removed all widgets, except the clock.
I don't see any delay or pause changing home screens, but the app fly down list just really looks like ****. I put on spare parts and turned the animations to fast to see if that would help and it didn't see to do anything.

Actually the app fly-in frame-stutter was something that I first thought I noticed when Google demoed the tablet at their Honeycomb event. And then it seemed confirmed when I tried it myself at the store.

Yea, I noticed that when I played with one at Costco. I couldn't really tell if it was designed to look like that or not. I remember everyone raving during the Xoom's debut at CES about how smooth it was and using the app fly in as an example of said smoothness. Weird.

I think the lag and less responsive than expected phenomenon is absolutely real and undebateable even if some have not experienced it. We've seen it many times in online reviews and I have personally experienced it on demo units in store.
What it comes down to is development. Combinaton of hardware and software.
Although the experience is optimized on Android, it is prioritized on Apple.
That is the key idea you need to understand and unless the hardware and software BOTH prioritize it, Apple will always win here since they control both hardware AND software.

DatterBoy said:
That is the key idea you need to understand and unless the hardware and software BOTH prioritize it, Apple will always win here since they control both hardware AND software.
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Well, but then you look at the fluidness of WP7 devices for which the hardware is made by companies that aren't Microsoft, and this argument doesn't really seem like the whole story.

I love my xoom, so this is not a complaint, but the device is not as smooth as I expected it to be. I have an og droid running one of the cm7 builds and overclocked to 1.2ghz. It is a much smooter device than my xoom in many situations.
I do not experience lag on my home screens or when using widgets, but the app fly in is crap and the browser scrolling is laggy. It was this way when I purchased it so I do not attribute it to any apps in particular. I just think honeycomb is in need of some coding polish.
Really makes me wonder if the dual core is being used for anything aside from keeping the CPU in a lower state of energy consumption for battery life. I wish there was some sort of widget that could show CPU usage so that I can see what is making use of the hardware and what is not.
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This is depressing. I really don't understand how it's possible that a hardware-accelerated version of Android on a dual-core device can be, in certain UI animations, consistently laggier than non-hardware-accelerated versions of Android on certain single-core phones.
Edit: For example, the app drawer fly-in on a Samsung Vibrant with a custom ROM or just Launcherpro is extremely smooth--seems like twice the framerate of the same animation on any other Android phone I've seen.

I have 100% the same thoughts/experience, I bought this on day 1, and when I had it up with zero apps it was throwing me similar lag to what has been described so far - the experience just isn't smooth or polished.
The f'd up thing? We basically have to rely on groups like CM (who I love!!!) to make our exerperiences closer to what we expect, I think we can all agree that once/if (PLEASE!) the CM crew starts building custom ROM's for us it'll be optimized and if it still runs like this, that's proof (in my eyes) that something is seriously wrong with this platform.
Fingers crossed we see some kind of update soon... Either official or non.

hctarks said:
... But even though the homescreen scrolling was perfectly "smooth," it was more the delay in response that bothered me. When I set my finger down and swiped from one screen to another, there was always a very short, split-second delay before the screen started moving, which felt as if my finger was "slipping" for a few millimeters before gripping the homescreen. ...
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I think this is actually by design. This prevents screen movements when one touches the screen for whatever reason and moves slightly, but does not intend to slide the screen, preventing screen jitter. In testing, the slide amount is something less than a centimeter.
I'm trying to decide if I would turn it off or leave it on if it could be toggled.
I'm interested if alternate desktop app's would do this.
So, it is like the orientation delay that is apparently by design. I wish my phone had that, if flips a little to easily (vibrant).

I think IOS demonstrates pretty adequately that such a touch-response delay is not necessary. Same goes with, I think, orientation-switch delay. Re: the latter, when it's a problem on a device it seems like it's usually due to the threshold for the switch being set too low--not the responsiveness of the switch, which I think should happen immediately when the device is tilted a certain amount.

[INFO] First Impressions

Ok guys, here it is. My first-impressions with the 32GB Asus Transformer after about 24 hours of use. I would like to mention that the opinions below are formulated by someone who owns and uses the first generation iPad (I hate most things Apple) since it was released as well as a Nook Color for about two months.
PROS:
1. Browser (especially bookmark sync with Chrome): After using this for about 5 minutes I knew I was never going to be able to do without this feature. As someone who has their bookmarks extremely well organized in folders and such, syncing is a must. I didn't even bother migrating my bookmarks to my iPad as I knew it would take days to do, so I just learned to do without. However, this feature alone, makes this tablet more like a laptop/desktop replacement than the iPad could ever be. The speed is also very nice. However, I must say that the scrolling and pinching doesn't compare to that of the iPad.
2. Ability to change keyboard (SwiftKey): I must say that the Asus keyboard is pretty horrible. I don't know if it's the slight delay depending on the software that's running, the spacing, aesthetics of the keys, or simply the fact that you have to go to a submenu to access keys such as the "?" or "!" (c'mon, those are pretty commonly used keys). But after using SwiftKey BETA, I must say that the difference has been night and day. I hate having to rest these tablets somewhere or rely on using one hand to access all the keys when in horizontal mode. Fortunately, with SwiftKey, I don't have to worry about that and can keep my hands where they should be, on the bezel. Now if only the TF could automatically change keyboards when docked. SwiftKey can get kind of annoying when using the keyboard to type with its corrections. I think Tasker can handle this though, I'll let you know.
3. Dock: Wow! I was really skeptical as to how practical and efficient the dock would be. To my surprise, I was really impressed with how much it makes the Tranformer feel like a netbook (albeit a bit heavier than most netbooks). Not just a netbook, but an Apple netbook at that. I'm an avid Microsoft/Google fan, but one really must recognize and admire how fluid navigating on an Apple laptop is. The swiping of the finger on the trackpad to scroll up/down, left/right, makes it feel really Apple-esque. Props to Asus! By the way, haven't had any disconnecting dock issues so far. Keeping my fingers crossed!
4. Screen resolution: This thing sure is crisp. Aside from the negative issues I have with the screen (light bleeds; see below), I must admit that in the color/sharpness department, this thing is as crisp as my iPad and Nook Color are. I still would probably give the edge to the Nook Color, but I think it's a small screen/pixel density situation then.
CONS:
QUALITY CONTROL ISSUES:
1. Light Bleed: I posted my issues with it here. As I mentioned on that thread, it isn't too noticeable (only on full brightness or in a really dark setting). But the fact of the matter is that the screen is what you're staring at 100% of the time with such a device; and just knowing that you do have light bleeds keeps you subconsciously hunting for them. Really is a shame that this is an issue. I'm leaning towards getting it exchanged as soon as I feel that newer ones have these issues addressed (not holding my breath). Until then, I guess I'll have to get used to it. The question is, will I?
2. Very small creakiness on left/right edges (pushing inwards): Not much of a problem, but it is worth mentioning. Not that it is very noticeable; it's just that such creaking makes the overall quality and feel of the product seem a bit on the cheap side. I guess I was spoiled by my iPad, but I really don't worry about that thing falling down. This thing seems a bit more sensitive for me. Perhaps I'll get used to it with time?!
OTHER HARDWARE ISSUES:
1. Weight: I don't know of it's just my mind playing tricks on me or what, but the TF seems much heavier than my iPad (first gen). Perhaps it is the difference in dimensions which might require some time getting used to. I don't know what it is, but I definetely can't hold this thing comfortably nearly as long as I can the iPad.
2. Video Playback (including HQ YouTube): People are claiming that this is a limitation of the Tegra 2 processor. If that's the case, than why in the hell would they even bother with it? I mean, I don't expect this thing to run and yield the same quality that my 42" Panasonic VIERA plasma TV does, but this is a tablet. At least 1/3 of everything people do with tablet is watch movies. Especially YouTube movies. This thing should handle it as fine as the first generation iPad does (you know, the one that came out over a year ago). C'mon now! Anyways, my HQ YouTube videos sporadically jerks around and HD videos, well, you've probably seen tons of complaints about it. Tsk, tsk!
3. Smoothness/Speed: I must say that I was somewhat let down with the performance right out-of-the-box. Once again, it must be spoiled by the iPad here. I just feel that either Honeycomb is trying to pack too many animations, graphics, etc. or the processor is just lacking. Whatever the case, I am hoping that someone roots this thing fast and removes some of the resource hogs out of here (apparently there are a lot of unnecessary programs running on the background). Don't get me wrong, this thing isn't dragging ass or anything. It just isn't as speedy as I expected it to be out-of-the-box. I guess I'm more concerned about when I have my 100+ apps installed on this thing. If it's like this now, how will it be then? My EVO 4G seems a lot more fluid when navigating than this thing does, especially when it has a fresh install on it.
4. Smudgeness: I've seen some people complain about this here and there but I thought they just weren't used to using anything touchscreen and were probably exagerating. I was wrong. This thing really does attract a lot more smudging than the iPad, Nook Color, or my Evo. Not that big a deal, but a minor nuissance indeed.
SOFTWARE ISSUES:
1. App Availability/Reliability: So far I haven't come across many apps that don't work well with Honeycomb, but the ones that I do have issues with really bother me. Words with Friends need to step their game up and fix some of the performance and density issues the game is plagued with. Also, out of the apps that are available for Honeycomb and the iPad, the iPad version not only runs so much smoother, but usually contain a lot more features as well. Take Taptu for example. It looks and feels completely different and a lot more robust on the iPad. What a shame! (BTW, I know this is not a TF issue, but a HC issue. Relax!)
2. Auto-brightness: I mentioned this before in this thread. It really does seem that the auto-brightness is a bit too dim. Maybe it is just a dimmer screen than the iPad or Nook Color. But even still, it could use auto-brightness to compensate for that when not in max-brightness mode. Right?
3. Camera: I wasn't expecting wonders from the camera, but I was expecting a lot better movement experience when video recording. I hope that this is something that can be addressed with a software update (maybe tweaking the processing of the captured image/video). On a good note, the front-facing camera worked pretty decently.
I understand that getting a "perfect" device is, in most cases, unrealistic. But, as much as I despise almost everything Apple, I haven't had any cosmetic issues with any of the iPads/iPods I've owned or used. So I know it is possible to be a lot better.
I know, well, hope, that the future is much brighter for the Transformer. Asus seem to be very involved in improving our experience, which is a good sign. Let's just hope they can tackle the camera and video performance as soon as possible.
I know it seems that I have a lot more complaints than praises here. Don't get me wrong, there are issues. But the positive far outweighs them. At least enough for me to keep it. I highly recommend it to anyone wanting a tablet that will encompass a bit more than just surfing the net and watching YouTube videos. This thing really can replace your netbook.
SCORE: 7/10 (9/10 if they fix the software issues)

Reserved for updates, answers to questions, etc.

Acer A500 disapointment ...

Hello, I just bought an Acer A500, this is my first Android device (I own an iphone 3gs).
But I am very dispointed by its speed. I was hoping it would be as fast and smooth (at least !) as my old iphone 3gs but it's not ... When you scroll a web page it's not smooth, whatever the web browser I tried, even single web page as Google !
The only smooth scrolls are when you use the photo browser or when you scroll through the icons pages. For the rest, even the Android Market app, it's not smooth at all.
So is there any optimisation we can do to let the A500 display everything smoother, or is it just an Android 3.0 problem which may be corrected in a future release ?
Thanks

The coming Android OS 3.1 will be better. The update including the browser stability and smoothness.
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Thanks, I just hope now the 3.1 will come quickly to the A500 and that it will really be smoother ...

My experience with the A500 is very fluid. I find that browsing to be "fast & smooth" as well. So, I'm left scratching my head that your receiving a better browsing experience on a 3GS. Could you upload a video sample on youtube? Some people have reported wifi issues with their device and that could be the culprit to your browsing experience. See if coming in close proximity of your wifi AP improves your browsing experience. If so then search this forum for what others have done to resolve the wifi issue. I am not having an issue so I have not further investigated the wifi issue.
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The browsing experience is a pain in the ass... but that is not from ACER it's from honeycomb...
the stock browser is still unstable and buggy and not support HTML5 and CSS3 as promissed...
and some function supported already by Iphone (field url and email for input do not trigger the good keyboard)
no smooth animation on javascript it s choppy and lost a lot a frame...
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When I say a pain in the ass I mean, only if we want make or build animated javascript website
http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com
this should be SMOOTH...or maybe I expect too much from "high-end" tablet dual-core.
HTML form field url/email
Issue16401 : http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16401
SenchaMobile.
http://dev.sencha.com/deploy/touch/examples/kitchensink
-- animations ... choppy and not smooth at all...
-- Buttons ... rounded are... weirdly rendered but that is not a real issues from the android, but probably from webkit or more from also sencha methods.. but still
flickering on any page change...
you can see this flickering also when you are on form fields
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I do not mean anything wrong, I said before that Android 3.0 is young and will grow up by time with better and better things to come I love android and I love Acer Tablet, really good products
-- 3.1 --
it's come in this month "confirmed by Acer Thailand" but no final date yet...
So far my disapointment are not same
I just see the UI improvement on Samsung Galaxy 8.6... it's so nice the UI is sweeeeet
the status bar, with the turn on/off many things...
the fast app launcher on the bottom... WoOow sweet...
I hope we will got some flavor of it
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I own 2 tablets Acer A500
I own 2 Liquid Metal S120

You should probably return it. Nobody has yet had these issues, so it might be something wrong with your tablet.

@bec07 : who ?

You and the OP.

It is important to note that not all websites are created equal. I have fast and smooth experiences with some sites and horrible one with others. There are too many variables from code quality, embedded media and offsite advertising, amount of content on a given page etc to truly quantify a 'good' or 'bad' browsing experience.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Some of it has to do with the browser, some has to do with the page you're loading.

gammaRascal said:
It is important to note that not all websites are created equal. I have fast and smooth experiences with some sites and horrible one with others. There are too many variables from code quality, embedded media and offsite advertising, amount of content on a given page etc to truly quantify a 'good' or 'bad' browsing experience.
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad. Some of it has to do with the browser, some has to do with the page you're loading.
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Agree, google.com is fast for me, but this site xda is very slow.

I use Dolphin HD browser... faster and more features.

Basicly all tablets are identical at this point. Some thinner, some thicker but only one manufacturer was smart enough to add the full size USB port.
Since the hardware is identical and it really packs quite a punch those issues should not happen. It would be best they check with their retailer or inconspicuously go to try out another A500.

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Basicly all tablets are identical at this point. Some thinner, some thicker but only one manufacturer was smart enough to add the full size USB port.
Since the hardware is identical and it really packs quite a punch those issues should not happen. It would be best they check with their retailer or inconspicuously go to try out another A500.
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I have 2 tablet and both are identical so I should change all tablet... naaaa don't think so.
I do think the 3.1 will remove some flickering glitch, and smooth maybe the javascript animation and css animation stuff. but for sure some website are poorly coded or got a DOM overloaded that eat the memory.
I do compare Sencha Touch website between iPad 1 and Acer A500... sad that run smoother on the old old iPad rather than on the new A500
but read really, I said the honeycomb and android is still young and buggy and will be better day after day because of the active community and the open mind of the code. do not interpret or miss understand.
It's a fact that browsing is not that smooth that should be, but it's already good.
now have to become the BEST.
(someone told me on the galaxy S II the browser was.... too fast for rendering it's tooooo good, but I didn't check about flickering or else)

I would have to agree with the first post, the web browsing experience is not as nice as iOS in regards to smoothness/scrolling, comapred to my iphone4 and former ipad1, but its not that bad either.
looking forward to 3.1.

sencha was developed with iPhone in mind, that's not really a valid comparison.

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Agree, google.com is fast for me, but this site xda is very slow.
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Just change the theme to xda classic and here you go

Today I checked xoom 3.1 videos on youtube, and I'm still disapointed ...
Browsing the web is faster but still not as smooth as it should be.
And not only the web, also the other apps were not 100% fluid.
I don't know if I will wait until the 3.1 comes to the A500 ... I may sell it quick (only owned for 2 days !) and buy an iPad. And believe it or not : yesterday I have been to the hospital because of an epilleptic crisis I did while using the A500, because of the non-smooth scrollings ...
My point of view is that a pad experience seems magic when it's 100% fluid, without this the pad experience seems not far from a laptop experience, which is not what I was searching for.

New android users always feel that. U can easily change ur the launchers such as Launcher Pro which is very smooth and fast in my opinion. There are tweaks around for you to look for and learn while experiencing Android =)
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Hello, I just bought an Acer A500, this is my first Android device (I own an iphone 3gs).
But I am very dispointed by its speed. I was hoping it would be as fast and smooth (at least !) as my old iphone 3gs but it's not ... When you scroll a web page it's not smooth, whatever the web browser I tried, even single web page as Google !
The only smooth scrolls are when you use the photo browser or when you scroll through the icons pages. For the rest, even the Android Market app, it's not smooth at all.
So is there any optimisation we can do to let the A500 display everything smoother, or is it just an Android 3.0 problem which may be corrected in a future release ?
Thanks
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Ipads have had probably What? 50 updates. A500 had one so far. I have the A500 and my wife's has the Ipad. I think I updated my wife Ipad 3 times since Christmas ( hour or longer updates ) Give it some more updates and the A500 will shine. The way both Tablets are now if I had to sell one of them it would be the Ipad. The only thing I like better about my wife's Ipad is, I can plug it directly into our digital camera and get pictures real fast, but you also have to buy the 30.00 adapter to do this and now you have something more to lose and carry around. JM2C

This is the difference with Apple : with Apple it works fine out of the box, of course a few bugs are corrected in firmware updates but these bug do not avoid you to use your pad.
With Android I feel like in the bad days of Windows mobile : you have to wait for the manufacturer promeses before being able to use your pad properly, but most of the time windows mobile devices never worked as expected ... That's the problem of having one operating system for hundred of devices with different hardwares.
I would be very happy to keep my A500 mainly because of the included usb port, but also because of the price and the fact that Android is more "open", if only Acer would have given us a 3.1 release date I would feel better.
Edit : this time it's sure, I will sell it !!! A current bug let me type very slow on the keyboard, this is the last bug I will accept ! Another big problem has been found : the button bar on the bottom of the screen : I often touch it while using the A500 which freezes the screen ....
I guess I will wait for 3 or 4 more years before going back to Android ! For now I'll stay with Apple.
Thanks anyway to all of you !

I need to know the "serious" issues

im still debating this tablet, but i want reeeeallly bad. so heres my background, i get easily frustrated when something doesn't work the way it should, im on my 3rd Samsung Infuse with in a month... but anyways, i was browsing the all 135 some pages and i see people having well, a lot of issues, chargers, screens, speakers (pop... whatever that is, seems to be known around the threads.) i read about people sending them in for repair. so i need to know what are the serious issues with this tablet. issues that everyone has recognized as a known issue,

This mostly happens most with 1st/2nd/3rd/4rd batch/shipment. I think new batch with the serial no# b5xxxxxxx or higher doesn't have noticeable issues.

B5 still have issues, but keep in mind that this is still a minority of people. The majority are enjoying a near perfect experience hardware-wise. A very common issue is light bleed, though in most instances this is very minimal. Mine had, unfortunately, the major issue of having an unresponsive area on the screen, which is why I RMA'd it.
I'd still choose this tablet any day if I had to start over again. Hell, even with the defective touchscreen it was still an awesome tablet Can't beat this screen right now, and the dock is great!
Sent from my Atrix

I just got my Tf a few weeks ago (and hey, it is a B5) and the worst problem i've had is there aren't enough hours in the day to enjoy it. Nothing like firing up GOF2 THD for a little while then reading same Douglas Adams. Oh, and then watching Hulu. I do that whenever stuff whenever i see an ipad user.

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im still debating this tablet, but i want reeeeallly bad. so heres my background, i get easily frustrated when something doesn't work the way it should, im on my 3rd Samsung Infuse with in a month... but anyways, i was browsing the all 135 some pages and i see people having well, a lot of issues, chargers, screens, speakers (pop... whatever that is, seems to be known around the threads.) i read about people sending them in for repair. so i need to know what are the serious issues with this tablet. issues that everyone has recognized as a known issue,
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Yes. The TF has reported problems. Nothing is perfect much less new products. I count myself fortunate that my TF works pretty well. From what I have read android itself can be frustrating especially when one tinkers with it but then that is part of the enjoyment of android. Learning. Reading your post my first thought would be to suggest you wait. The TF, as most android products, can be frustrating but also keep in mind that you're not reading about the majority of TF users who either haven't had problems or have dealt with them.
Even a new Porsche can have problems!

im okay with the light bleed. and i know about the speakers not being even. but whats this speaker pop thing about?

I don't have any problems, I can tell you that mine is perfect. I don't care if you believe it or not

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im okay with the light bleed. and i know about the speakers not being even. but whats this speaker pop thing about?
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I can answer that question,
there are 2 kinds of popping sound from the speaker discussed in this forum,
the first one is with rooted user using overclock kernels.
occasionally the speaker would make a "pop" sound (when you get notifications)
but that does not happen to unrooted users, and in fact, the lastest kernel seems to get rid of that question already.
another popping sound issue if reported from people streaming music from the "google Music" app.
sometimes after a certain amount of time listening to music using the app, the speaker, actually the headphones, speaker doesn't have such issue, start to produce some kind of "impurity", a constant popping sound.
But the issue can be easily solved by unplugging the headphone and replugging it. I've tried jumping straight to Youtube app when I start hearing the popping sound, and it's not there in the youtube app. So i suspect its more of an software issue. Asus is already looking into it the last time I checked.

What about the dock issues?

This video sums up all the serious issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA

seshmaru said:
This video sums up all the serious issues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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well some one doesnt get a thanks button click... ass....

There are a LOT of useless threads on this forum, but this one doesn't qualify. I can understand that, after a few months , it gets tough to know what issues are still relevant and which ones are a thing of the past. So this youtube noob reply was totally unnecessary.
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My dock has zero issues. It charges, it registers the keys, mouse works great with USB ports, haven't tried the sd card. And the touchpad is amazing.
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I promise you that 99% of the people complaining are just being the biological trolls that they were born as.
The TF is a great device and IT WILL do everything it was intended to do pretty damn well. The dock definitely takes some getting used to, especially if your not used to mini netbook type keyboard.
But it is really responsive and adds legitimate battery life and functionality to the device.
The few bugs that the TF does have are very minor and will be sorted out with time just like ever god damn piece of hardware in the world...For some reason people don't know how to do anything but complain on these forums. Don't be swayed by them, chances are they are very incompetent in real life and look to the internet to hear out there pathetic pleas for attention

I beg to differ @ previous poster. There are legitimate QC issues here. I've gotten 4 different units sent to me in the last two week and each had issues. The latest has a whole section of the x axis (in landscape) about a finger width wide unresponsive to touch all the way across the screen. Bull**** in my opinion. Also look at the beautiful RMA threads here. Really making me contemplate my decision. I love the device and its capabilities, but am discouraged by these shortcomings of the manufacturer.
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This is hands down the best thing I have purchased in the last several years, I have to make myself put it down. Having said that, if you are picky then no tablet (android or other) will be good for you. Honeycomb is far from complete or polished and there are problems if you look for them. In my opinion non of them overshadow the experience.
My other devices are collecting dust.

PuerkitoBio said:
There are a LOT of useless threads on this forum, but this one doesn't qualify. I can understand that, after a few months , it gets tough to know what issues are still relevant and which ones are a thing of the past. So this youtube noob reply was totally unnecessary.
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Yes it does qualify. This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1041502, is a stickied thread and has a complete ordered list of noted issues with detailed information about the issues. Oh and its up to date since the dates for changes are noted right there and all.

I linked this thread here: http://www.facebook.com/ASUS/posts/209779482398791

I don’t have the dock, so cant comment on that. Instead I’ll comment on the tablet alone. I have the 16GB model with Honeycomb 3.1 (stock no mods, not rooted yet), had it for 6 days, so these are more like my first impressions:
Pros :
Beautiful screen (very little light leak on mine so I’m quite happy. But has one dead pixel though, but not noticeable)
Good battery life (I can easily go beyond 8hrs with moderate use)
Everything (I have tried so far) except web browsing works as it should
Cons:
Web browsing is very disappointing to say the least. The stock browser crashes and lags to the point of being unusable.
Flash video performance in the browser is poor, HD videos breaks up and low res videos are blocky when viewed fullscreen, deblocking filters don’t work properly or not at all.

Video Playback isn't the best But Theirs Work Around (HandBreak and Different Video Players)
Flash in my opinions is fine but It can be improved
Music is awesome especially with Volume+ App
Games are Very Good. I play Spectral Souls and Galaxy on Fire 2
Screen Is Beautiful (Some Light bleed but all IPS have this problem yes even Ipads)
Overall Performance is Good (A Little Laggy with Widgets but ADW EX can fix this)
Browser is my Main Gripe. It Looks amazing and Loads Fine but Theirs Typing Browser lag and it Kills the Experience. Its not a Hardware Problem its Software. Its eather Honeycomb or Asus Custom UI. Idk which but it should be fixed :x
All in All its an Amazing Device and if The Browser Typing Lag gets Fixed, Then this thing would be BEAST. Theirs a Rumored Android 3.2 that fixes alot of HC Issues coming out in the next few weeks so thats Might be what everyone is wishing for. until then we gotta wait on Asus/Google.
Edit: I Should Mention thats Their is ONLY typing Lag in Browser and Not Writing Documents/Apps. Strange..

Unboxing and gestures and S Voice DEMO videos

Here are two videos I made with the SIII, first the unboxing, then the demo for the gestures.
Note that I left out the direct call and pick up to be notified functions as I didn't have a microSIM card.
Feel free to ask whatever question about the phone and I'd love to answer or test things for you. Enjoy watching!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GauEbTHJYNk&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edbhVsWdngo
Edit: I forgot to mention that I've fiddled with the S Voice in multiple languages (I'm not a native speaker of either of them) and it surprised me how well I managed to get along with the app. It's responsive, useful and can easily understand you (I'm kind of shouting at it because I wanted to get it right, but it works very nicely). Can't wait for the Romanian version!

Cool!
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Tomorrow I'll be giving back the SIII, so post questions, if you have any, while I'm still able to verify things for you!

How were you able to acquire such a beast before release?

I'm with the Samsung Mob!lers Romania and we almost always get the devices prereleased. Unfortunately they are beta products and can have faulty software, but luckily I had no problem whatsoever with the SIII. Stay tuned for a full video hands on and many other Samsung devices

Funniest part is when it open maps in Korean language
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Rate your UX with the new nature inspired TouchWiz. How is it different than S2 TW? Smoother? Any small, but experience enhancing changes?
Reviews have shown that the stock S3 browser is much better and less laggy than the S2. Can you confirm this with real life usage?

Unfortunately I have no S2 at hand to try out, but what I can say based on my experience with TouchWiz is that it's very sharp and quick and in the time I used it I had no intention of using a custom launcher. The browser is the same I have on my Tab 2, and prefer it over Chrome, but I can't say how much faster it is than the predecessors.

There are many users talking about the possible screen issues on the SGIII. Were you able to notice some kind of tinting?
Thank you for your time and great videos by the way.

I saw some topics talking about the display quality, with a slightly pink hue, but the model I have is just perfect. A lot of people complain about the oversaturation, but I think the colors are very very vivid. You get four different display color settings to match your taste, with dynamic being the flashiest and then standard, natural and movie.
I've tested everything out and I never got a force close or any kind of error, although it got stuck in S Voice once, but bear in mind that I don't have an actual production model.

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i read about other reviewers saying this too. very cool. thanks.

And here's the full review, a short presentation of the features. I particularly love the screen, crisp clear as you can see in the close up at the end. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-fcYW3GRS0&feature=youtu.be

Thank you, Flo.
EDIT: Now I see that the other guy has replied to my question about the reader and the answer is that it is available for most sites!
Is there a "reader" type function in the web browser? In one other video demonstrating text reflow, the reviewer pressed an icon in or near the address field to go into a "reader" mode! So clearly it does exist, but the reviewer was browsing mobile wikipedia when he did it, I was wondering if it is available when for example reading an article on Gsmarena in desktop mode?

I didn't see any reader button so I can't say if there was one, when I browsed I simply used the text wrap on the standard double tap zoom, never at different sizes.
If it's the same browser with the one I have on my Tab 2 (ICS 4.0.3) then there is no such feature, but they nay be different.

have u used or looked at a htc one X before? if so could you make a brief comparison of its screen with the sgs3 screen?

I have only seen them separately and I only know that both displays are amazing. A romanian reviewer whom I trudt has made a detailed comparispn between them and he favours the screen of the One X. In terms of resolution or color tones they're both overkill, but he says that the visibility in heavy sunlight is better on the One X.
I can only say that there's nothing you can possibly use the screen for that requires a higher resolution. Check the close up in the end of my gestures video to see how crisp clear it is!

Fantastic mate. Thanks for the videos.
If you still have the device with you can you try to shoot and upload a video showing the multitasking capability. Open as many apps as you can including games and browser and switch back from one another to see how well is it functioning ?
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I gave the phone back, but I've tested the problem reported on the One X, that the multitasking was not working properly (reloading web pages when switched back to the browser etc) and I can completely vouch for the multitasking on the S III. It switches the apps flawlessly and keeps them in the RAM not requiring a reload.

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And here's the full review, a short presentation of the features. I particularly love the screen, crisp clear as you can see in the close up at the end. Enjoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-fcYW3GRS0&feature=youtu.be
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haha love the comparison with the 5110. I had that phone about 14 years ago and it wasn't considered to be a big phone back then.

Facepalm the phone to silence it is EPIC !