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I just checked Sprint and checked my roaming data 1.3 gigs, but then it wasn't in red, and it said 1.3gigs/Unlimited
Yay unlimited roaming
It's been like this forever.
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459,509KB/ Unlimited
Sprint Data Roaming Used
4,384,848KB/ Unlimited
Be careful 50% or more of your usage/time on roaming and they kick you off the network.
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It's been like this forever.
Sprint Data Used
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I checked it like a week ago, and it always said out of 0 but they never charged me.
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Be careful 50% or more of your usage/time on roaming and they kick you off the network.
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Proof? I have been over 50% since I got my Evo and they haven't said a word.
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I checked it like a week ago, and it always said out of 0 but they never charged me.
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Yeah I see what you're saying now, but technically its always been unlimited. Now it just doesn't say "Additional Charges 0$" all the time in big scary red letters.
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Be careful 50% or more of your usage/time on roaming and they kick you off the network.
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I think for me it would be something like this
limit x-> 0+
1,300,000/x
The ratio that is, I don't use Sprint data.
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Proof? I have been over 50% since I got my Evo and they haven't said a word.
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Yeah, check your terms and conditions. Every carrier has this.
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Be aware that they won't charge you, but they do have the right to terminate your contract with an etf if your roaming data goes over 300MB/month. Whether or not they decide to crack down on you is up to them.
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Be aware that they won't charge you, but they do have the right to terminate your contract with an etf if your roaming data goes over 300MB/month. Whether or not they decide to crack down on you is up to them.
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That is incorrect!
They have the right to terminate/regulate/throttle your contract/usage/data, but if they cancel you, there is no ETF. I have spoken at length with several Sprint reps about this, and it is fact.
I have been concerned that they would try to cancel my contract because I have the PRL hack and have been over 12gb of roaming data for several months in a row now, since way before the Evo came out. But, they keep telling me it's okay. They even give me free bonus minutes for my trouble every time I call. The secret is to call it in yourself, and act like a concerned customer that just wants to know what to do, but be persistent, they will be more than helpful if you take this approach.
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That is incorrect!
They have the right to terminate/regulate/throttle your contract/usage/data, but if they cancel you, there is no ETF. I have spoken at length with several Sprint reps about this, and it is fact.
I have been concerned that they would try to cancel my contract because I have the PRL hack and have been over 12gb of roaming data for several months in a row now, since way before the Evo came out. But, they keep telling me it's okay. They even give me free bonus minutes for my trouble every time I call. The secret is to call it in yourself, and act like a concerned customer that just wants to know what to do, but be persistent, they will be more than helpful if you take this approach.
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They will still cancel you regardless how "concerned" you are lol
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They will still cancel you regardless how "concerned" you are lol
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That's fine, I'll take my phones somewhere else.
Also, they will give you warning before they cancel you. Remember, they want you to keep sending them money, and you wont be doing that if they cancel you. They will send out a warning letter asking you to change your usage pattern. If you don't change in the next month, then ur gone without any further notice.
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They will still cancel you regardless how "concerned" you are lol
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You work for Sprint and have done nothing but give horrible advice about Sprints terms and conditions.
We get it - you work for Sprint. Now shut up please. You don't know half as much as you claim you do.
Sprint CAN cancel your contract for numerous things - including tethering without paying. I use ~ 20 gigs a month without paying for tethering. Never heard a complaint.
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You work for Sprint and have done nothing but give horrible advice about Sprints terms and conditions.
We get it - you work for Sprint. Now shut up please. You don't know half as much as you claim you do.
Sprint CAN cancel your contract for numerous things - including tethering without paying. I use ~ 20 gigs a month without paying for tethering. Never heard a complaint.
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Damn I thought you left. Today is a bad day for this forum if you're back. Btw they won't cancel you for tethering free that's why you haven't heard anything lol but they will cap data because of morons like you
Nobody likes you here and I do thoroughly enjoy seeing you drop out of every thread when proven wrong.
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Here you go brother
Excessive Utilization of Network Resources: Wireless and Wireline networks have capacity limits and all customers can suffer from degraded or denied service when one or a small group of users consumes disproportionate amounts of network resources. Sprint Nextel, therefore, will monitor both overall network performance and individual resource consumption to determine if any user is consuming a disproportionate amount of available resources and creating the potential to disrupt or degrade the Sprint Nextel network or network usage by others. While the determination of what constitutes excessive use depends on the specific state of the network at any given time, excessive use is determined by resource consumption relative to that of a typical individual user of the Service and not by the use of any particular application.
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Go ahead and test your "unlimited" theory. This applies to roaming minutes as well.
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That's fine, I'll take my phones somewhere else.
Also, they will give you warning before they cancel you. Remember, they want you to keep sending them money, and you wont be doing that if they cancel you. They will send out a warning letter asking you to change your usage pattern. If you don't change in the next month, then ur gone without any further notice.
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I think we just stumbled across a fool proof way to get out of your contract without the etf. Just act like a data roaming fool for a few months to get them to take notice, then ignore the warning they send you and poof.....you're out of your contract the next month.
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I think we just stumbled across a fool proof way to get out of your contract without the etf. Just act like a data roaming fool for a few months to get them to take notice, then ignore the warning they send you and poof.....you're out of your contract the next month.
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Problem with that is, it takes 3+ months for it to actually get to you. If you're lucky you will get it within the 3 months but most people get cancelled at month 6 - but it will definitely work if you do, do that.
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Problem with that is, it takes 3+ months for it to actually get to you. If you're lucky you will get it within the 3 months but most people get cancelled at month 6 - but it will definitely work if you do, do that.
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Well I guess that bright idea bit the dust with a quickness
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I think we just stumbled across a fool proof way to get out of your contract without the etf. Just act like a data roaming fool for a few months to get them to take notice, then ignore the warning they send you and poof.....you're out of your contract the next month.
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Yeah, that's actually what I was trying to get out of talking to them. I finally got one the managers to confirm in writing that I would be able to opt out all 5 lines for free if they decided to cancel/suspend me. Just waiting for that letter but it never comes, been over 6 months of intentionally high data roaming. I run Pandora all day and stream netflix/hulu while tethered to 4g, and of coarse lots of mp3 downloads.
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Yeah, that's actually what I was trying to get out of talking to them. I finally got one the managers to confirm in writing that I would be able to opt out all 5 lines for free if they decided to cancel/suspend me. Just waiting for that letter but it never comes, been over 6 months of intentionally high data roaming. I run Pandora all day and stream netflix/hulu while tethered to 4g, and of coarse lots of mp3 downloads.
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Never seen anyone get cancelled because of high data usage... this is for roaming calling usage. Right now you're just messing up everyone else's usage and giving Sprint a reason to cap their data
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Never seen anyone get cancelled because of high data usage... this is for roaming calling usage. Right now you're just messing up everyone else's usage and giving Sprint a reason to cap their data
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Are you retarded?
This thread is about data roaming, if you can't follow along, stfu!
Also, can you read? I mentioned I was running a different PRL, all my data and voice is roaming!
It's funny, until sprint started in with BS explainations for the charge I had no problem at all with it. I was told when I bought the Epic that the charge was a network charge for 4g. And that was at a sprint store.
As a matter of fact, I was totally cool with it! And cool with it knowing it'd probably be a year minimum until I had the service because I live in a small town about 150 miles from Denver.
When it wasn't cool with me is when they started saying crap like this: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/53633;
What do you guys think? I'm pretty annoyed by it at this point.
Wasn't it the senator from WV that said "if you're gonna get raped, maybe you should just lay back and enjoy it?"
I like to think of the $10 bull$hit fee as that. Even though it's complete and utter BS, they tacked it on, and if you want one of the power phones, you'll just have to deal with it, so you might as well just pay up and enjoy the awesome phone.
quit *****ing.... its obvious its to build a network that needs to be paid off... you dont want that $10 fee get a different phone
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quit *****ing.... its obvious its to build a network that needs to be paid off... you dont want that $10 fee get a different phone
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I'm not *****ing FYI. I don't like people that I pay almost $200 a month for almost 8 years piping smoke up my ass.
But then if you'd have actually read the post and the provided link you'd have probably understood that..
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Wasn't it the senator from WV that said "if you're gonna get raped, maybe you should just lay back and enjoy it?"
I like to think of the $10 bull$hit fee as that. Even though it's complete and utter BS, they tacked it on, and if you want one of the power phones, you'll just have to deal with it, so you might as well just pay up and enjoy the awesome phone.
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I agree %100 with ya. I think they need to call it what it is, like the rep I bought my phone from did.
i was just talking to my friend about this yesterday, Im under his family plan and its crap the **** they are charging for. Between the two of us its 120 each a month. and like 4g we are not able to use it, now if that 10 bucks was being used to expand the network so I could use it, I would be fine with it. But the link says its not for the network...what BS
That might be the dumbest thing I've ever read...
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I just came from sprint after being away from them for a year with the ass raping big red. Trust me when i say that sprint's plans are way better then a lot of carriers out there. The only reason i left them a year ago is because of service in my area wasn't the best but i have moved and have 5 bars. Anywho, it is only costing my wife and i 129.99 (2 smart phones) a month for 1500 minutes then unlimited everything else plus the $10.00 4g charge (which is labeled that way on my bill and explained to me by every rep in person and on the phone that way.) my verizon bill for 1 smart phone and 1 multi-media phone was 170.00 a month for 1400 minutes.
So if you want to ***** about 10 a month and being ass raped then get a pay by the minute phone and don't buy the latest and greatest thing. This is the problem with our society is that we just want to ***** rather then find a solution. Also, nothing is free and a new technology network needs to be paid for. Prolly when you renew contract after 2 years you won't have to pay anymore and the network will be everywhere 3g is as all phones will prolly be 4g.
So again. STOP *****ING
I think you guys are missing the point... the point is that Sprint is lying about the $10 charge not being for 4g access... If anyone were to call Sprint and ask them about it they will feed you the same BS line they fed me... "its because of the HD content the Epic and Evo recieve , that's its constantly updating and that's its a charge to cover all that extra data"... Which we all know to be pure crap... Now you must ask yourself... "why doesn't Sprint just fess up and say yeah it is for 4g access"... Well let me tell you, if they were to announce that it is for 4g access then they would have to bring 4G access to all markets... Which they have no control over because if you did some research you would find that Sprint 4G isn't really Sprint's... Their entire 4g network belongs to Clearwire, a wireless competitor. Which is why there has been so much controversy over it... in fact a class action lawsuit has already been filed and is widely published on the web... just google Sprint 4g Class Action Lawsuit... Now I've been a loyal Sprint customer for the past 10 years and quite frankly I would be completely fine with paying the $10 if they would just admit to what it is really for and not insult the intelligence of their customers saying that its for the "Premium Content" for the Epic and Evo knowing full well that the exact same content can be found on the Hero or any other non-4g device.
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They really are dude. I spelled it out in the OP so I don't get it.
I've never even considered another carrier. I love sprint's service. As a matter of fact. My wife stil has verizon and I refuse to switch. I've been with them for years and won't do it. So between us we pay almost $400 to verizon and sprint. And we constantly argue which is better,even thoughshe knows sprint is! So I'm a fanboy lol
I dislike being lied to and I dislike being called 'whiny' or '*****y' or being told to 'shut up' when I am merely expressing an opinion. It was my understanding that I was free to post my opinion on these boards. This is the second time this has come up and I am going to re post what I said in the last thread:
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Tell me what law sprint violated. They didn't violate any. Your only argument is that you deserve a good phone. If you can't do better than that you should just let this discussion drop. The fact is that in a competative market companies can charge what they want and we as consumers can chose to pay or go somewhere else. Well if the issue was that important to you go somewhere else. Of course you will still pay more than you pay at sprint.
The other things you cited are also abuses of the courts and the taxpayers. It doesn't make this particular abuse any better. Like I said you have made it clear that you knew about the fee prior to purchasing your phone yet purchased it anyway. What law do you think should allow the government to intervene and change the agreement you made. Would that be the law of fairness? Or how about the law of I deserve a top of the line phone? I am being sarcastic here but would truly like to hear what law sprint has violated. So far no one has been able to answer this. Even the attorney for the case says he is investigating to see if sprint violated any laws.
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Actually, recently Verizon as well as many other carriers were sued successfully due to their policies of ETFs being a violation of consumers rights even though those signing up knew about the ETFs. The issue was that someone who had a month left on their contract had to pay the same fee as someone who was canceling a month into the plan and thus was a violation of their rights.
Now I'm going to pull a sly little trick:
The issue was that someone who had a month left on their contract had to pay the same fee to cancel their contract as someone who was canceling a month into the plan and thus was a violation of their rights.
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Watch this!
The issue was that someone who had no 4g coverage had to pay the same fee to use 4g as someone who had 4g coverage and thus was a violation of their rights.
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Oh gosh! By changing just the words of the type of fee its the same circumstance!
Also, part of the reason I'm on Sprint is that my area gets terrible cell reception in general and other cell carriers have actually allowed me to cancel service without incurring an ETF because I could not use the service for which I was paying. I knew I was signing up for a cellular service and they would charge me but because I could not use their service they allowed me to get out of my contract. Again, same situation.
Even if we look at the fact they say its for the extra data you're going to use, I'm paying for unlimited data. So lets go to an analogy: I go to a buffet. I'm a small guy, so they know I probably won't eat a lot. A fat guy comes in behind me so they believe he will eat more than me so they charge him an addition fee to eat at the buffet even though the fee covers "all you can eat." That is a violation of consumer rights.
I understand that Sprint is cheaper but paying $10 a month basically because I chose to buy a better phone is absurd.
In addition, if Sprint were in the process of rolling out coverage to where I live, or even where I will be moving in 8 months, I'd pay. I'd pay oh-so-willingly. I'd be unhappy that they were lying about what the charge was for, but I would pay. But they're not. So I'm being lied to and I'm paying for YOUR service, so I have every god damned right to be ****ing angry about it.
dantichrist said:
I agree %100 with ya. I think they need to call it what it is, like the rep I bought my phone from did.
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They can't just call it what it is, because then there would be a bunch of butthurt people trying to sue them because they cannot use the service they are paying for. Its a lot easier for everyone to understand that its for the 4g, but for corporate to stick to the line that its for the high end devices features. Its obvious its for the 4g service, and even then you have people complaining and calling for class action lawsuits against sprint. I am sure that the Sprint's legal team have figured out that they are safer describing at a corporate level that the fee is for the high end phone and not the high end service. And I am also sure that Sprint has made it known to employees to describe the fee as a 4g charge, so that if any customer complains to corporate, they can just pass it off as some misinformed store employee.
muyoso said:
They can't just call it what it is, because then there would be a bunch of butthurt people trying to sue them because they cannot use the service they are paying for. Its a lot easier for everyone to understand that its for the 4g, but for corporate to stick to the line that its for the high end devices features. Its obvious its for the 4g service, and even then you have people complaining and calling for class action lawsuits against sprint.
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People like you are so hilarious. You're only real arguments are name-calling and immaturity. You present no evidence except opinion and childish insults.
kenvan19 said:
People like you are so hilarious. You're only real arguments are name-calling and immaturity. You present no evidence except opinion and childish insults.
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Wut? I didn't call anyone a name, and nothing I said was immature unless you really want to nitpick my word choice. Would it make you cry less if I changed "butthurt" to "offended"?
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They can't just call it what it is, because then there would be a bunch of butthurt people trying to sue them because they cannot use the service they are paying for. Its a lot easier for everyone to understand that its for the 4g, but for corporate to stick to the line that its for the high end devices features. Its obvious its for the 4g service, and even then you have people complaining and calling for class action lawsuits against sprint. I am sure that the Sprint's legal team have figured out that they are safer describing at a corporate level that the fee is for the high end phone and not the high end service. And I am also sure that Sprint has made it known to employees to describe the fee as a 4g charge, so that if any customer complains to corporate, they can just pass it off as some misinformed store employee.
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Actually no they do not in any way describe it as a charge for 4g, in fact if you were to call customer service they will tell you exactly what was told to me in my previous post, and then if you decided to call them on it they will simply tell you that in order to have that device active on the account you MUST have that particular billing code.... And to even further prove my point, the next day I got a automated call survey about my interaction with customer service... When I rated it low, I received a call afew hours later from a Customer Satisfaction rep and when I explained my issue, guess what she told me.... thats right.... the EXACT same thing.. "Oh, you are getting that charge because the Evo and Epic are cutting edge devices and because of that fact they are constantly connecting to the web and updating apps and what not" at which point I did a facepalm and promptly disconnected the call.
Did you read my post? I clearly explained that Corporate will always stick to the line that its for a high end device, most likely because of some stupid legal issue. The employees at the stores however ALWAYS tell you its for the 4g service. I have spoken to at least half a dozen when I was buying my phone, and EVERY ONE of them described it as a 4g fee.
Also, this is how its described on my online bill.
Premium Data (required for this device)
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Then you are lucky to have such honest sales reps in your area... My sales rep didn't even tell me about the charge and I had to find out on my bill... and thus the reason for my frustrating call to Customer Service
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Then you are lucky to have such honest sales reps in your area... My sales rep didn't even tell me about the charge and I had to find out on my bill... and thus the reason for my frustrating call to Customer Service
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Jesus, thats pretty ****ty. I would have been pissed too.
No doubt! And the problem is that it's a your word against his if you complained about it. That really sucks. I'm glad because the reps here are really cool.
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Jesus, thats pretty ****ty. I would have been pissed too.
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And if you are curious about the legal issue as to why they cannot call the charge 4g access or whatever, it's because Sprint has no control over where they can offer 4g access... Their entire 4g network is piggybacking off of Clearwire and for people in areas like myself with 0 Clearwire presence within a 300 mile radius... We are pretty much SOL. So by calling it "Premium Data" and linking it to the phone they can charge anyone with the device... vs calling it 4g Access then people can call up and say "I have no 4g in my area so take it off until it is active here"
Is there a way to get the hot spot function without the monthly fees?
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Yes, if you are rooted.
Grab wireless tether here or from market now I believe.
To me, I think of it as I'm already paying for it...It's just using the internet signal from my phone and pushing it to my computer, I have my unlimited data plan!
But yeah, Barnacle Tether or Wireless Tether for root users are your two best bets.
Just remember you're doing something illegal and risk terminating your account with sprint
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Just remember you're doing something illegal and risk terminating your account with sprint
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I don't think you could convince me that wifi tether is Illegal...I mean, try your best...but If I pay for unlimited data on my cell phone...and my cell phone does all of the modulation/demodulation of the data....regardless of what app it is pushed too or what hardware that app has control over....I see 0 wrong with it.
Just because there's nothing morally wrong with it doesn't mean it isn't illegal.
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I don't think you could convince me that wifi tether is Illegal...I mean, try your best...but If I pay for unlimited data on my cell phone...and my cell phone does all of the modulation/demodulation of the data....regardless of what app it is pushed too or what hardware that app has control over....I see 0 wrong with it.
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You could think what you want to think. Tell sprint what you're doing, let's see if there is nothing wrong with it.
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You could think what you want to think. Tell sprint what you're doing, let's see if there is nothing wrong with it.
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I already pay for services on my phone for the internet, therefor I can do what I would like to with it. Yes, Sprint may not be happy with it, but more than likely their sprint rep's wouldn't even understand what I was trying to tell them.
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You could think what you want to think. Tell sprint what you're doing, let's see if there is nothing wrong with it.
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Actually, a Sprint employee told me to get the Epic and root it. LOL
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I already pay for services on my phone for the internet, therefor I can do what I would like to with it. Yes, Sprint may not be happy with it, but more than likely their sprint rep's wouldn't even understand what I was trying to tell them.
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I do it too. But by the Terms and Conditions they made you agree to:
Prohibited Network Uses. ...(vi) for an activity that connects any device to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for the purpose of transmitting wireless data over the network (unless customer is using a plan designated for such usage);
So legally you can't do anything you want
Are you guys really dumb or just acting dumb? Of course it's illegal and against contractual agreement.
It's not illegal as there is no law that prohibits you from doing so.
It is absolutely a breach of your contractual obligation with Sprint and makes you subject to termination and perhaps damages recovered from Sprint for using their service in a manner you agreed that you would not use it, though I doubt Sprint would ever do more than terminate your contract.
I want it for work I need conectivity and sum pol have no phones or internet so for me to connect their stuff and send data then dissconnect is Whuts needed but I pay enough already for my plan I don't se the 30 more on top of the bill wnted to bypass that aspect
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It's not illegal as there is no law that prohibits you from doing so.
It is absolutely a breach of your contractual obligation with Sprint and makes you subject to termination and perhaps damages recovered from Sprint for using their service in a manner you agreed that you would not use it, though I doubt Sprint would ever do more than terminate your contract.
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exactly. Illegal means there is a LAW prohibiting it. Find said law in any state, local, or federal mandate and I will happily eat my shoe.
It IS probably a breach of contract though, which by no means is a law.
Everyone is a law expert these days. Illegality and breach of contract are not the same thing.
"Theft of services" is a violation of the law in probably all states...is in mine. That would be the law, cough, cough, being "broken"....saw a few judges concerning said law back in the day. Jumping turnstiles.
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Actually, a Sprint employee told me to get the Epic and root it. LOL
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Was it really a Sprint employee? Was it a corporate store or a co-branded indirect dealer? Sprint lets a ton of dealers use their name as long as they conform to certain policies and procedures.
Kcarpenter said:
I don't think you could convince me that wifi tether is Illegal...I mean, try your best...but If I pay for unlimited data on my cell phone...and my cell phone does all of the modulation/demodulation of the data....regardless of what app it is pushed too or what hardware that app has control over....I see 0 wrong with it.
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it's not illegal, but is definitely against the terms of your license agreement.
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Just because there's nothing morally wrong with it doesn't mean it isn't illegal.
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yeah. but it's not illegal- if you think so, tell me the law against it.
all you guys saying it's illegal... are totally and completely ridiculously clueless. the party can sue for monetary damages or performance of the contract, but it's not like the gov't is going to take action (like they might if it were actually illegal).
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it's not illegal, but is definitely against the terms of your license agreement.
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This. You can contractually agree to many things that aren't otherwise regulated by law. I'm not saying I don't do it from time to time, but it isn't as simple as saying that you pay for unlimited data so you can use it however you like.
Funny how u all act like u follow every law there is in the world
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I see the news that Sprint is doing away with unlimited hotspot. I use the wifi tether app to provide a hotspot for my laptop in the field.
How can i see how much data I'm using while tethering?
I`m getting the itch more and more to go to Verizon. Sprint cell service is very spotty, there becoming more like the rest, and their 4G sucks and it will be another year and a half before we can see any change from them with LTE.
Would this change in the data be grounds for me to cancel due to change in the contract?
if you really wanna get out your contract without having to pay the etf go here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073 from what i read if you use up enough data sprint will give you the boot.
How can i see how much data I'm using while tethering?
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If you are rooted and using wifi tether, this "shouldn't" affect that, as that app makes it seems like its the phone using the data. What sprint is after is the people using the Sprint Hotspot app.
Would this change in the data be grounds for me to cancel due to change in the contract?
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No, this does not change your contract. If you are already in contract, this doesn't affect you until you re-sign the contract.
if you really wanna get out your contract without having to pay the etf go here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073 from what i read if you use up enough data sprint will give you the boot.
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No, do NOT do that. There are MANY LEGAL ways to get out of your contract. Screwing sprint over by making them pay verizon for your stupidity is not the way to do it.
No, do NOT do that. There are MANY LEGAL ways to get out of your contract. Screwing sprint over by making them pay verizon for your stupidity is not the way to do it.[/QUOTE]
You sound like a sprint employee. Sprint is a multi million dollar company they can afford it, also alot of us on sprint are getting screwed for having to pay for 4g when we can barely even get a 4g connection. Not to mention the crappy reception.
also alot of us on sprint are getting screwed for having to pay for 4g when we can barely even get a 4g connection.
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You aren't paying for 4g, you are paying for mobile internet.
http://m.infoworld.com/d/mobile-tec...tphones-176849?mm_ref=http://news.google.com/
Yeah, just saw this, was looking where to post it on xda. Apparently I've been beat to the whiskey sour
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sitlet said:
You aren't paying for 4g, you are paying for mobile internet.
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Oh bull****. Sprint tacks on an extra 10 (I think it's 20 now $) to own a 4g phone. Despite the vast majority paying have no access to 4g. Your comment is purely ignorant. How do you not recall this argument from 18mo ago? Are you new?
I have 4g. But I know most don't. Stupid comment of the year award, over, done, awarded. You win.
Edit: and thanks agent Droid for giving me a place to post the link I had just copied to share
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While capping data use on its 3G network to 3GB, 5GB, or 10GB per month, Sprint has continued to offer unlimited 4G service. Now, the cap for each of these plans will cover the subscriber's combined monthly data use on both 3G and 4G. All data use above the cap will cost 5 cents per megabyte.
The monthly allowance for data use while roaming on non-Sprint networks will be 100MB for the 3GB plan and 300MB for the other two plans, with each megabyte over those caps charged at 25 cents.
For Mobile Hotspot plans on phones, data usage will be capped at 5GB per month of either 3G or combined 3G/4G service, depending on whether the phone can use 4G. Use above that cap will be charged at 5 cents per megabyte. Those plans will have a 300MB monthly cap for data roaming.
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Ha, **** that.
dzee206 said:
You sound like a sprint employee. Sprint is a multi million dollar company they can afford it, also alot of us on sprint are getting screwed for having to pay for 4g when we can barely even get a 4g connection. Not to mention the crappy reception.
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This is absurd.
People like you are what cause cut backs, increased rates and relinquishment of benefits.
You people sit here and try to justify all the bull**** you want, Sprint isn't doing this to be jerks.
They simply cannot afford it.
They want to continue to offer unlimited data on phones
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This is absurd.
People like you are what cause cut backs, increased rates and relinquishment of benefits.
You people sit here and try to justify all the bull**** you want, Sprint isn't doing this to be jerks.
They simply cannot afford it.
They want to continue to offer unlimited data on phones
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oh great another old butt hurt sprint fan boy! quit acting all high and mighty.
"so basicly this exploit is for those who get terrible reception, download speeds etc? also would it matter if your on a unlimitted data plan using this?"
"thanks for confirming that, i think ill just stay away from this for now or atleast till i wanna get out of my contract."
those are my exact words from this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073&page=214 . so next time you try and talk down on someone get your damn facts straight! all i was trying to do was help out a fellow xda member, so quit with all your bs. so marinate on that thought, on that note dont even bother replying back this all your getting out of me. im out, peace out sucka.
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oh great another old butt hurt sprint fan boy! quit acting all high and mighty.
"so basicly this exploit is for those who get terrible reception, download speeds etc? also would it matter if your on a unlimitted data plan using this?"
"thanks for confirming that, i think ill just stay away from this for now or atleast till i wanna get out of my contract."
those are my exact words from this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073&page=214 . so next time you try and talk down on someone get your damn facts straight! all i was trying to do was help out a fellow xda member, so quit with all your bs. so marinate on that thought, on that note dont even bother replying back this all your getting out of me. im out, peace out sucka.
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And?
I'm not going to search your previous posts.
All I know is you tried to peddle this bull**** idea that these companies are just swimming in cash.
Its so stupid.
People make comments like "these CEOs make millions a year, they can afford xy abuse/exploit"
Okay...and do you think that CEO is going to lose out on his pay because of that abuse?
NOPE.
Guess who does? The customer and low level employees.
Always always always.
Everything is interconnected.
For all the fools that force a carrier to give em a different model because their OEM phone can't be rooted after an update, or those that abuse prls, or those that demand credits because a device that is known to have an issue and you didn't return it within the 14 days, or people downloading 50GB of month in torrents on their wireless connection...the only one you're hurting is the customer. (Yourself)
Everyone wants to ***** and whine about loss of benefits, limiting of data, the loss of the ability to get a different model when its necessary for valid reasons ....WELL THEN STOP ABUSING the system.
Because abuse is truly what is causing a loss of those benefits.
You can "screw" whatever corporation you want...problem is...the CEOs, the board, the higher ups...they won't even notice the difference.
People gotta start focusing on the bigger picture.
This isn't about being on some "high horse" or being "self righteous" or whatever negative connotation that you can attach to it.
It's about the realization that everything is truly interconnected and that we customers are the ones screwing ourselves.
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im out, peace out sucka.
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did you seriously just call him "sucka"??? how is 2nd grade nowadays?
Your comment is purely ignorant. How do you not recall this argument from 18mo ago? Are you new?
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Umm, do YOU remember the argument? It is WIDELY known the 10 dollar fee is for Premium Data, NOT just for 4g. EVERY smartphone has a 10 dollar fee now, not just 4g phones. So your argument that the 10 dollars is for 4g is stupid.
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did you seriously just call him "sucka"??? how is 2nd grade nowadays?
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obviously i did if you read my post. i said my part and so did mattykinsx, and from the look's of thing's were both just gonna leave it as is. i dont want this getting turned into a flame war and start getting infractions, but if you wanna keep dragging it along go ahead be my guest. im done here with this thread so say what you like doesn't matter to me.
https://www.facebook.com/StandAgainstAttThrottlingUnlimitedPlans
I just made this page on Facebook, go like it and express your opinions on the whole idea of throttling. I want us to be heard as a community, it isn't fair to pay for unlimited and not get what we pay for.
You did agree on the contract that you allow them to throttle your data. And contracts many times can me changed before you sign them.
jaszek said:
You did agree on the contract that you allow them to throttle your data. And contracts many times can me changed before you sign them.
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What does "unlimited" mean to you?
jaszek said:
You did agree on the contract that you allow them to throttle your data. And contracts many times can me changed before you sign them.
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http://mashable.com/2012/03/17/att-loses-throttling-suit/ why else would they have lost this case then? It is not possible to use unlimited data if they are restricting your means of using it and that is a violation. I do hope we see more people step up to this corporate behemoth that thinks they could do what they want, I'm considering going with straight talk since they do not throttle you and they piggyback off AT&T
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They explicitly guarantee unlimited data...not unlimited speed. What's so hard to understand? It's justifiable on their part, but it sucks for the customer. I'm now on a tiered plan and I'm happy. I just try to get on wifi as much as possible.
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Ill be devils advocate here. Unlimited, just as it sounds, means without limit. This limit or its lack of is based on the amount of data that can be used. In other words, you can use as much data as you want. So if you are getting the data at 1 kbps or 99Gbps you can still use as much data as you want. That's what unlimited means to me.
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What does "unlimited" mean to you?
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Ill be devils advocate here. Unlimited, just as it sounds, means without limit. This limit or its lack of is based on the amount of data that can be used. In other words, you can use as much data as you want. So if you are getting the data at 1 kbps or 99Gbps you can still use as much data as you want. That's what unlimited means to me.
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I see what you're saying.....but you can consume as much data as you want...that's what "unlimited data" means. The DATA is unlimited. Speed has never been guaranteed by any carrier, ever.
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Did you guys read my link?
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That article is rubbish and doesn't prove anything.
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That article is rubbish and doesn't prove anything.
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That's your opinion I guess, but if you guys don't agree then why are you on my thread? No offense but I'm looking for support and not resistance. If anyone does agree with me then go to this link http://www.change.org/petitions/att-data-throttle and sign a petition to end data throttling. One person has no voice alone, but all of us together could be heard... even if they just raised the threshold or lowered our "unlimited data" pricing. Thanks guys!
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Have to agree, unlimited data may be guaranteed, speeds aren't. I've used half a gig in a month at most so I'm not really affected.
atnt
Atnt and T-Mobile suck in my opinion me having T-Mobile I hate it.
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Have to agree, unlimited data may be guaranteed, speeds aren't. I've used half a gig in a month at most so I'm not really affected.
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Correct. Speeds are not guaranteed.
But when they go to the extent of limiting speeds, they are by definition limiting the amount of data you can consume in a certain time period. Unlimited data means all of the data you can consume at maximum speeds that the equipment is capable of. Limiting the speeds is directly a way of limiting the data.
If you went to an all you can eat buffet and you liked the shrimp, is it fair for the kitchen to slow down the cooking of shrimp because they think you are eating too much? It it's not an "all we think you should be allowed to eat for $8.99" buffet. If that is what they want, then that is what they should call it.
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Atnt and T-Mobile suck in my opinion me having T-Mobile I hate it.
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Same here, T-Mobile sucks...
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That's your opinion I guess, but if you guys don't agree then why are you on my thread? No offense but I'm looking for support and not resistance. If anyone does agree with me then go to this link URL and sign a petition to end data throttling. One person has no voice alone, but all of us together could be heard... even if they just raised the threshold or lowered our "unlimited data" pricing. Thanks guys!
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If you are looking for support not resistance, then don't open it up for discussion. Go to your support group. A little discussion and perhaps disagreement is the reason that these topics exist. They are not here to sale your personal agenda. If you want that, go buy 1 way (push only) add space somewhere so you can indoctrinate us all. Otherwise accept a little criticism, and possibly learn from it.
I used 10Gb so far and my speeds are good. I would sign it, but it has not happened to me yet so I do think I can/should.
I think they should be able to slow you down if a tower is overloaded and you used the most. Becuase they don't have unlimited bandwith. What they are doing now is BS.( just slowing you down for rest of bill even if there is no more overload.)
The way verizon does it is more fair, but still a bit of a pain.( at times they lower my speed from 15+mbs to .5mbs on 4G) It does not stick for the rest of the bill, like AT&T.
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I used 10Gb so far and my speeds are good. I would sign it, but it has not happened to me yet so I do think I can/should.
I think they should be able to slow you down if a tower is overloaded and you used the most. Becuase they don't have unlimited bandwith. What they are doing now is BS.( just slowing you down for rest of bill even if there is no more overload.)
The way verizon does it is more fair, but still a bit of a pain.( at times they lower my speed from 15+mbs to .5mbs on 4G) It does not stick for the rest of the bill, like AT&T.
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I got the message 2 days into my current bill cycle -_-
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If you are looking for support not resistance, then don't open it up for discussion. Go to your support group. A little discussion and perhaps disagreement is the reason that these topics exist. They are not here to sale your personal agenda. If you want that, go buy 1 way (push only) add space somewhere so you can indoctrinate us all. Otherwise accept a little criticism, and possibly learn from it.
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Everyone always has some negativity to put in. Have a good day!
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
They explicitly guarantee unlimited data...not unlimited speed. What's so hard to understand? It's justifiable on their part, but it sucks for the customer. I'm now on a tiered plan and I'm happy. I just try to get on wifi as much as possible.
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^^^ Totally agree.
What would a "reasonable person" expect from the term unlimited data?
When I signed up for "unlimited data" there were no stipulations.
Since the basis of law is what a "reasonable person" would expect, this has become false advertising(bait and switch).
Stop letting big corporations abuse and destroy our rights. Vote out the politicians who allow our legal system to be exploited by large corporations for the sake of profits.
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