My wife has a Nokia 6085 flip phone. I tried my microSD in it. Unfortunetly it will not unformat the card. Any advice on using this phone to reformat the card?
I have a 8GB Kingston C4 which I need to reformat. If I can ever find a way to realiably reformat these cards after having been locked to WP7, then I'll remove my Patriot 16GB C4, reformat it, and run it for numbers. But not going to remove a known working card when I do not have a way to reformat it. BTW, the Patriot is currently at: Total 22.12 GB;;; Available 10.25 GB. I'm going to keep loading it up until only 2 GB remain. So far have had no problems.
You're gonna need one that runs Symbian, as it's Symbian and not just Nokia that supports the secure digital standard. The N75 that I have that will notice a WP7 card is running S60, so you don't need an N8 running full-blown symbian^3, but you may at least need S60. You can check over at pdadb.net and search by OS to see a list of everything that has ever run Symbian. Best of luck!
my w7leo restarts every 5 to 6 minutes. Also I can not sync with my laptop which is w7 64 bit home premium. I need help to fix these problems?
Your sd card is not compatible.
what can i do
Try format it with panasonic formatter and reinstall WP7, but doubt that'll work.
In all, a sure way to get WP7 running is to buy a new sd card. People are saying sandisk class 2 cards work best with WP7 so I recommend those.
I have the old memory card from my HTC Trophy, as it stands before WP8 you needed to find a Nokia Symbian device to format it. My Question is will the WP8 devices that have an SD card slot be able to format them also?
Thanks!
I posted in Win8 instead of WP8, sorry .. please delete
You don't specifically need a Symbian device, that's just typically the easiest way to find a SD cardreader device that implements the full SD spec, including the 'S' (Secure) part.
Win8 won't do any good here one way or the other, it's about your hardware and your drivers. Windows drivers tend to not include any support for that feature.
^ absolutely, you tend to find only some hardware that will support the full SD card spec, I spoke to the folk who look after the spec ages ago and they said that the ability to do it has bee there for years, but many SD card manufactures use the secure storage area to actually run programs to help speed up the cards, wiping that area could potentially reduce the random and/or sequential read speeds, sp its not something they have pushed for, as foe software doing it, there's no excuse other than no one has developed it yet
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Hi all,
I had a freaky idea this morning. Windows 8 installations can also be turned into 'Windows to go' drives, meaning that you can run the whole os off a usb drive. I thought a lot about an idea and then i tried to implement it. Few basic things first though, windows 8 needs an ntfs formatted drive, which android (officially) doesnt support. Before i reached the android part though, i took my 32gb class 10 sd card and with a reader, made a 'windows to go' drive. I then booted into it and customized it for extreme performance. Once booted, it was zipping on the OS. Satisfied, i took out the card and inserted it into my galaxy note (running gb). Thats when i realized it had problems detecting it. I got past that issue too by following this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1416923 . Then it could read the ntfs formatted sd card and with a bit of effort (the script had to be run every time after it disconnected), got it to mount as a UMS. Now i restarted my machine and went to the boot order (that gave me enough time to mount the card as UMS) and in the boot menu it showed me 2 options 'Android UMS Composite' and 'Android UMS Composite 1'. Sadly though, neither booted win 8 and went to the win 7 os on my hdd. What went wrong here? Could anybody help me to actually implement the idea? Just to check whether it could work? I dont plan to use it......but it would be cool just to think that it could work.
Cheers
Xyan
Galaxy note is an ARM device. Windows 8 is x86. Thats a pretty damn big limiting factor right there. Although where windows 7 comes in I dont know as windows 7 is also x86 and wont boot on the note unless your post was incomplete
xyancompgeek said:
Hi all,
I had a freaky idea this morning. Windows 8 installations can also be turned into 'Windows to go' drives, meaning that you can run the whole os off a usb drive. I thought a lot about an idea and then i tried to implement it. Few basic things first though, windows 8 needs an ntfs formatted drive, which android (officially) doesnt support. Before i reached the android part though, i took my 32gb class 10 sd card and with a reader, made a 'windows to go' drive. I then booted into it and customized it for extreme performance. Once booted, it was zipping on the OS. Satisfied, i took out the card and inserted it into my galaxy note (running gb). Thats when i realized it had problems detecting it. I got past that issue too by following this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1416923 . Then it could read the ntfs formatted sd card and with a bit of effort (the script had to be run every time after it disconnected), got it to mount as a UMS. Now i restarted my machine and went to the boot order (that gave me enough time to mount the card as UMS) and in the boot menu it showed me 2 options 'Android UMS Composite' and 'Android UMS Composite 1'. Sadly though, neither booted win 8 and went to the win 7 os on my hdd. What went wrong here? Could anybody help me to actually implement the idea? Just to check whether it could work? I dont plan to use it......but it would be cool just to think that it could work.
Cheers
Xyan
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You should look into drivedroid. I remember finding a tutorial online explaining how to boot from ntfs using drivedroid. It could be a start into what you are trying
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You should look into drivedroid. I remember finding a tutorial online explaining how to boot from ntfs using drivedroid. It could be a start into what you are trying
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that won't help, issue here is that he is trying to boot windows on a device that physically cannot run windows.
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that won't help, issue here is that he is trying to boot windows on a device that physically cannot run windows.
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Did you read it properly? He is clearly saying he want to boot win8 from the devices storage. Acting as a hdd
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Did you read it properly? He is clearly saying he want to boot win8 from the devices storage. Acting as a hdd
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the storage of a galaxy note smartphone which is an arm device incapable of running windows 8, clearly I read it more than you did. As I also pointed out in my first post he then become completely ambiguous as to whether he is still talking about his note or an actual windows 8 machine (many of which won't boot from SD anyway which then solves the problem a second time).
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the storage of a galaxy note smartphone which is an arm device incapable of running windows 8, clearly I read it more than you did. As I also pointed out in my first post he then become completely ambiguous as to whether he is still talking about his note or an actual windows 8 machine (many of which won't boot from SD anyway which then solves the problem a second time).
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Well, the storage have nothing to do with processor, did you seen a usb drive with a arm processor?
And also windows 8 can be booted from a external storage medium. It just cant be fast as running it in hdd with sata interface
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Well, the storage have nothing to do with processor, did you seen a usb drive with a arm processor?
And also windows 8 can be booted from a external storage medium. It just cant be fast as running it in hdd with sata interface
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well actually usb devices do tend to have a processor on board, including arm ones occasionally, just usually with a few kb of ram at 10-20mhz and yes arm cores do go that low.
The original post says he can view the ntfs formatted SD card but cannot boot from it. So yes I am right in saying that the link to how to view ntfs storage is irrelevant as that point has been reached.
He is then saying he can't boot windows 8 on an ARM device, an ArM device cannot run windows 8 regardless of what type of storage is used. It is then confusing about whether he is now referring to a regular windows machine where again they cannot always boot from SD regardless of storage. On top of that I don't even think a galaxy note can boot from SD if provided with an operating system it can physically run.
Clearly you did not read what the problem was and lack the common knowledge than an ARM CPU cannot run an x86 OS which would cause the arm CPU to not recognise win 8 as a bootable operating system and leave it out from the boot list. A regular x86 pc which doesn't support booting from SD would also leave it off the list.
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well actually usb devices do tend to have a processor on board, including arm ones occasionally, just usually with a few kb of ram at 10-20mhz and yes arm cores do go that low.
The original post says he can view the ntfs formatted SD card but cannot boot from it. So yes I am right in saying that the link to how to view ntfs storage is irrelevant as that point has been reached.
He is then saying he can't boot windows 8 on an ARM device, an ArM device cannot run windows 8 regardless of what type of storage is used. It is then confusing about whether he is now referring to a regular windows machine where again they cannot always boot from SD regardless of storage. On top of that I don't even think a galaxy note can boot from SD if provided with an operating system it can physically run.
Clearly you did not read what the problem was and lack the common knowledge than an ARM CPU cannot run an x86 OS which would cause the arm CPU to not recognise win 8 as a bootable operating system and leave it out from the boot list. A regular x86 pc which doesn't support booting from SD would also leave it off the list.
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First. I opened a usb drive before. It only have a usb controller and a nand flash.
And I need to clarify this. X86 pc does support booting from sd card.
Just Google it if you still not sure.
And I have booted ubuntu on my pc using my phone. Search for an app called drivedroid
And also. He said he used mass storage mode to boot to win 8 using his phone. His phone is acting as a usb drive. It's super possible.
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First. I opened a usb drive before. It only have a usb controller and a nand flash.
And I need to clarify this. X86 pc does support booting from sd card.
Just Google it if you still not sure.
And I have booted ubuntu on my pc using my phone. Search for an app called drivedroid
And also. He said he used mass storage mode to boot to win 8 using his phone. His phone is acting as a usb drive. It's super possible.
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again, I said usb devices not specifically storage, and some usb controllers will indeed have a CPU on board, some will not.
you can come right here if you want and see my computers, I have 2 desktops, 2 laptops and 3 netbooks in my house. Neither desktop has an Sd reader but of the portable devices only 2 of them booted from SD (a dell inspiron 1525 laptop and brothers Samsung netbook) whereas the rest have no option in their bios boot order to boot from SD or otherwise, my laptop actually lists SD as a usb device for some reason which is probably how it booted from it, the Samsung netbook did list it as SD natively. All 5 laptops/netbooks booted fine from USB.
Of the 2 desktops one doesn't support USB booting either, will only boot from SATA or IDE (and it does have an IDE DVD drive).
I rest my case that not all devices support booting from USB or SD, nowadays USB is standard but one of the netbooks which wouldn't go from SD isn't even a year old.
I don't think android as mass storage actually exposes itself to bios correctly, it certainly doesn't give the system full rear/write permissions. It may well not support booting.
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again, I said usb devices not specifically storage, and some usb controllers will indeed have a CPU on board, some will not.
you can come right here if you want and see my computers, I have 2 desktops, 2 laptops and 3 netbooks in my house. Neither desktop has an Sd reader but of the portable devices only 2 of them booted from SD (a dell inspiron 1525 laptop and brothers Samsung netbook) whereas the rest have no option in their bios boot order to boot from SD or otherwise, my laptop actually lists SD as a usb device for some reason which is probably how it booted from it, the Samsung netbook did list it as SD natively. All 5 laptops/netbooks booted fine from USB.
Of the 2 desktops one doesn't support USB booting either, will only boot from SATA or IDE (and it does have an IDE DVD drive).
I rest my case that not all devices support booting from USB or SD, nowadays USB is standard but one of the netbooks which wouldn't go from SD isn't even a year old.
I don't think android as mass storage actually exposes itself to bios correctly, it certainly doesn't give the system full rear/write permissions. It may well not support booting.
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I need to agree on the first statement, but you do have to run sdcard in usbmode, so It will work on most modern pc, and drive droid somehow emulates a usb drive inorder to make the android devices looks as a hdd/usb drive
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I need to agree on the first statement, but you do have to run sdcard in usbmode, so It will work on most modern pc, and drive droid somehow emulates a usb drive inorder to make the android devices looks as a hdd/usb drive
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nothing I can do about SD cards on netbooks with integrated slots without an external adaptor in which case just use a god damned memory stick.
Drive droid does actually look like an interesting idea.
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nothing I can do about SD cards on netbooks with integrated slots without an external adaptor in which case just use a god damned memory stick.
Drive droid does actually look like an interesting idea.
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Yup, netbooks generally sucks for anything except web browsing tho.
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Yo 6677, nobody cares what PCs you have or how pedantic you can be about what the OP did or didn't say. The post was unclear; just request clarification. As for using Android UMS as a bootable drive, that actually should work (so long as it's UMS and not MTP) if you can mark the first partition as Active, which is likely not possible but I've never tried.as for permissions, the point of UMS mode is that you have raw, unbrokered access; there is no mechanism that *could* enforce permissions.
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Okay.......just to clarify....i dont want to run win8 on my galaxy note.....i want my galaxy note to act like a usb pen drive for any PC to boot win8 from my android. Btw, droiddrive only lets me make fat32 partitions. And i had already made the external sd card partition active. I wiped out the whole thing and decided to start small.....i took a 2gb card and formatted it to fat32 with dos booting......the pc booted into dos off my android perfectly. What went wrong with the win8 stuff?
It probably has something to do with Windows 8 requiring ntfs and xrivedroid not being able to mount it in such a way that it would work. That's my idea anyway
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Hi all!
I managed to get to make it boot!
It reaches the windows 8 boot logo and the spinning circle just keeps spinning on and on and on.....doesn't stop spinning but doesn't go further than that either.
When it does that, there is
a) No HDD activity
b) No response from Num Lock and Caps Lock key lights
c) No BSOD or response when the phone is unplugged
It's like it doesn't care. Just keeps spinning.
Any ideas to what could be wrong The drive is definitely NTFS, with extra space present. I've tried this on multiple PCs
I think I'll try making it again
Regards,
Xyan
Hey guys, just putting this out there.
Valve said that you can install any OS you want on this including windows which is better for game support. Proton is great and all but doesnt have 100% coverage.
So what this means is it probably has an accessible BIOS (maybe even cpu undervolting possible) and should let you boot from sd card. This would be great for keeping steam os on the main storage just to see how it goes and for emulators. And then any game that doesnt run properly under proton you can quickly plug in an sd card with bootable windows and play those games there.
What do you guys think if this is possible would you do it? or what other os would you install?
As seen on many SBCs (i.e. RPi, odroid...), sd-card booting is rather slow.
You Do not want that for a Windows-Installation.
My guess is that they wanted to make thing as cheap as possible. A Windows 10 license adds somewhat $50-$100 to the pricetag. Plus they would have to certify the steamdeck for Windows.... Also adds costs, time and maybe IT is not possible at all.
I'd rather go with swapping PCIe-SSDs. Although that might void the warranty.
I agree, I think sd card booting will be slow. But, it's not impossible. Think, booting Ubuntu with a CD. It's slow to boot but once booted mostly everything is in memory and pretty quick.
Ssd... usb... same ole...
My ole elite book 820 1st version, is a corporate laptop, more open than oems, I5 is rapid, 256 pcie used for (broken)wan, wiped giving me a 250 c drive, sata filled with 250gig of fruity midi and softsynths, when hooked up to my studio, best sounds where i live lol, no lag, latency pretty much zero, using win 7 x64 ultimate
Same speeds, usb3 speed, that's how I see it, or usb 2 most likely for most...
That's your actual hardware speed...
chip performance re: running an os, my ssd is faster than the old ones with moving part's... ssd loses files, the old ones we could find easier... with rstudio etc..
Think about it... your ssd is using usb (most likely 3) to transfer through the usb bus...
And if memory serves me correctly, ssd's can only handle on average 200,000,000 read write's, now what does all this mountin partitions do?
Wear the heck out of those rw
ssd all the way.... the frequencies are the key to speed
i wish they would have put a usb A port on the device and that they would have planned for easier replacement of SSD.