I think samsung did an awesome job with this tablet. Its beautiful and has the specs and is the best in the market. But for some reason I don't like using honeycomb so much. Its clunky, crashes, most apps are horrible, and it is not very customizable. I know it will evolve and be great, but today is mediocre.
its the same spec on the xoom and the asus and the gslate lol
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its the same spec on the xoom and the asus and the gslate lol
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Not sure which specs you are referring to but i think the OP is more talking to the design of the tablet which no one can deny is the best design on the market.
As far as HC itself: i had a Xoom for a week and felt underwhelmed by honeycomb. Its not that its bad, per se, but moreso that it just didn't fulfill me. That's why i am excited to see what Samsung does with the Touchwiz UX on this device. From the previews online, it looks to improve nearly all.aspects of Honeycomb. My only concern is the performance effect of TW.
Honeycomb is fine and dandy, but its a lot of eye candy. The best example is adding Widgets. I think they overcomplicated it, on the other hand I've been on android since 1.5 so i probably have a comfort zone that HC takes me out of.
With that said, i cannot wait to get one!
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Not sure which specs you are referring to but i think the OP is more talking to the design of the tablet which no one can deny is the best design on the market.
As far as HC itself: i had a Xoom for a week and felt underwhelmed by honeycomb. Its not that its bad, per se, but moreso that it just didn't fulfill me. That's why i am excited to see what Samsung does with the Touchwiz UX on this device. From the previews online, it looks to improve nearly all.aspects of Honeycomb. My only concern is the performance effect of TW.
Honeycomb is fine and dandy, but its a lot of eye candy. The best example is adding Widgets. I think they overcomplicated it, on the other hand I've been on android since 1.5 so i probably have a comfort zone that HC takes me out of.
With that said, i cannot wait to get one!
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Exactly how I feel, the galaxy tab is amazing. I can't use honeycomb for more than a few days without getting bored. I wouldn't go out and buy a ipad, but its just so overcomplicated. Touchwiz could be the key, I am also interested in seeing what htc does with it.
I don't really have any issues with honeycomb and since the 3.1 update I haven't been having many crashes at all. what features do you think it's missing?
I know there aren't many apps available but for 90% of what I do with a tablet, I'm fine. Here's how I see the app situation
Great
Gmail
Maps
Youtube
Calendar
Pulse News
AccuWeather or WeatherBug for weather
Movies by Flixter
Splashtop for remote desktop - you'll have to buy this one but it works spectacularly on the tab
Good
Music
Browser
Google Books - I don't have access to paid books in canada and there's no sideloading. If I had one or both of these things, I'd say great
Kindle - UI could be a bit better but still pretty good
QuickOffice HD for word, excel, powerpoint - this is a paid app but it comes with the tab
FileManager HD for file management
Google Talk - file transfer would be nice but what's there now works quite well
Bad
Facebook
Twitter - tweetcomb works fine but they really need to update the official app
Something for wikipedia - the browser works fine but it would be nice to have a tablet optimized wikipedia app
XDA - works fine in browser
Skype - I'm super choked about the fact that micrsoft bought skype cause that means we'll never see a good skype app =[
so what else do you want? games, I guess? there are some good games already and there's more coming. So, for me, if they update the facebook app, I'll be pretty much fine with everything. Like I said, tweetcomb works fine and the browser works fine for wikipedia and xda
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I don't really have any issues with honeycomb and since the 3.1 update I haven't been having many crashes at all. what features do you think it's missing?
I know there aren't many apps available but for 90% of what I do with a tablet, I'm fine. Here's how I see the app situation
Great
Gmail
Maps
Youtube
Calendar
Pulse News
AccuWeather or WeatherBug for weather
Movies by Flixter
Splashtop for remote desktop - you'll have to buy this one but it works spectacularly on the tab
Good
Music
Browser
Google Books - I don't have access to paid books in canada and there's no sideloading. If I had one or both of these things, I'd say great
Kindle - UI could be a bit better but still pretty good
QuickOffice HD for word, excel, powerpoint - this is a paid app but it comes with the tab
FileManager HD for file management
Google Talk - file transfer would be nice but what's there now works quite well
Bad
Facebook
Twitter - tweetcomb works fine but they really need to update the official app
Something for wikipedia - the browser works fine but it would be nice to have a tablet optimized wikipedia app
XDA - works fine in browser
so what else do you want? games, I guess? there are some good games already and there's more coming. So, for me, if they update the facebook app, I'll be pretty much fine with everything. Like I said, tweetcomb works fine and the browser works fine for wikipedia and xda
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You forgot netflix, hulu, quality game, good news app other than pulse, skype, mine crashes at least 3 times a day while using the browser, etc.
The tab itself is the perfect weight, great screen, powerful, nice to look at.
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You forgot netflix, hulu, quality game, good news app other than pulse, skype, mine crashes at least 3 times a day while using the browser, etc.
The tab itself is the perfect weight, great screen, powerful, nice to look at.
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I guess you've got a point there. Canadian netflix is crippled to the point that it's basically useless and we don't even have hulu so I never considered those things. I did mean to mention skype but then I forgot. That is one I would really like but it's never going to happen now that skype is owned by microsoft.
I was having lots of issues with the browser until I got the 3.1 update but now it seems pretty good. Then again, I'm used to having things crash all the time because I'm a full time android developer. I get paid to try to make things crash so I'm so used to it now that I just click "force close" and then reopen it without even thinking about it.
as for games, I guess I have lower expectations. I'd much rather just play games on my xbox and there are a few good games for honeycomb so I'm happy with that. All the ones in tegra zone are pretty solid.
I had Asus transformer (before 3.1 upgrade) and returned it mainly due to:
- OS instability. I needed to restart the tablet every day because of unresponsive screen, etc. Could be due to transformer drivers also.
- Browser lag, esp. when browsing sites such as XDA developers
How is GT in these two aspects /w 3.1? I would love to get a new tablet, but can't be a beta tester for google after paying so much money.
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I had Asus transformer (before 3.1 upgrade) and returned it mainly due to:
- OS instability. I needed to restart the tablet every day because of unresponsive screen, etc. Could be due to transformer drivers also.
- Browser lag, esp. when browsing sites such as XDA developers
How is GT in these two aspects /w 3.1? I would love to get a new tablet, but can't be a beta tester for google after paying so much money.
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Seems pretty good so far. Xda is definitely much better. I'm typing this post on my galaxy tab.
No sweat. Typing used to be horrible.
How is OS stability? Were you forced to restart your tablet ever?
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Seems pretty good so far. Xda is definitely much better. I'm typing this post on my galaxy tab.
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I guess you've got a point there. Canadian netflix is crippled to the point that it's basically useless and we don't even have hulu so I never considered those things. I did mean to mention skype but then I forgot. That is one I would really like but it's never going to happen now that skype is owned by microsoft.
I was having lots of issues with the browser until I got the 3.1 update but now it seems pretty good. Then again, I'm used to having things crash all the time because I'm a full time android developer. I get paid to try to make things crash so I'm so used to it now that I just click "force close" and then reopen it without even thinking about it.
as for games, I guess I have lower expectations. I'd much rather just play games on my xbox and there are a few good games for honeycomb so I'm happy with that. All the ones in tegra zone are pretty solid.
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The best thing is we can be subjective without jumping in eachothers arse. It will get better its just really young right now
I have been using 3.1 for over a month now and i don't have any problems with it, it runs very smooth on Xoom. No FC's, no crashes, no nothing, it just works.
I have been watching a lot of GT10.1 videos on Youtube and it doesn't seem as smooth as my Xoom. Home screen is lagging, FC's, selecting text in browser seems to be impossible, browser quick controls doest work and so on. Why is that?
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I have been using 3.1 for over a month now and i don't have any problems with it, it runs very smooth on Xoom. No FC's, no crashes, no nothing, it just works.
I have been watching a lot of GT10.1 videos on Youtube and it doesn't seem as smooth as my Xoom. Home screen is lagging, FC's, selecting text in browser seems to be impossible, browser quick controls doest work and so on. Why is that?
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changing the cpu scaling mode seems to help responsiveness. my galaxy tab is silky smooth the majority of the time. it has the hiccough every once in a while but usually gets right back on track. I haven't really seen any FC's(that I can remember) since updating to 3.1. selecting text in the browser isn't perfect but it works just fine for me. I do miss the quick controls though.. what's up with that?
We have a xoom at work.. I should really do some comparisons at some point
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You forgot netflix, hulu, quality game, good news app other than pulse, skype, mine crashes at least 3 times a day while using the browser, etc.
The tab itself is the perfect weight, great screen, powerful, nice to look at.
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Try news360 for news app. Pretty good at customization and does a great job of aggregating from numerous websites about one topic
Will someone try to download a file from rapidshare or megaupload,since on Android that didnt work.
thanks.
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You forgot netflix, hulu, quality game, good news app other than pulse, skype, mine crashes at least 3 times a day while using the browser, etc.
The tab itself is the perfect weight, great screen, powerful, nice to look at.
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Did you update yours to 3.1?
I would have constant force closes on the browser market and keyboard but after the update I have not had any and everything is so,much s,ooother
Its quite a pain in the ass that we loyally buy the tab (10.1v) then have to still wait for the bloody update, when the new
customers get the update immediatly. On another note, get hacker keyboard, awesome kb for big screen tablets. Love the arrow keys.
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I have been using 3.1 for over a month now and i don't have any problems with it, it runs very smooth on Xoom. No FC's, no crashes, no nothing, it just works.
I have been watching a lot of GT10.1 videos on Youtube and it doesn't seem as smooth as my Xoom. Home screen is lagging, FC's, selecting text in browser seems to be impossible, browser quick controls doest work and so on. Why is that?
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I have a zoom and it has more force closures in the web browser than the zoom.
Its a tablet meant for entertainment, emails, app, and such. Right now honeycomb is just eye candy.
I have the Transformer and am thinking of changing over to the Galaxy Tab, mainly for the form factor. Looks to be very nice... However, I would miss the (in my mind) superior keyboard dock.
One of the things I do not like about the Transformer is the force closes on the Launcher that occur (sometimes multiple times a day) and the slow response when lifting the screen from the keyboard. It seems like it almost has to redraw the screens again.
I am guessing these are Honeycomb issues and not hardware issues.
Do any of you GTab 10.1 users experience launcher crashes or redrawing of the screens/widgets/shortcuts after not using for a couple of hours and then turning on again?
Thanks.
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It seem that 25% of all the apps I try on the wifi zoom crash and force close. Pandora, slacker, just to mention two.
Is it a Honeycomb issue or xoom issue?
Will it ever get better or are some of the older apps never going to work?
I also have trouble with web sites that have flash video using either the standard browser or firefox.
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It seem that 25% of all the apps I try on the wifi zoom crash and force close. Pandora, slacker, just to mention two.
Is it a Honeycomb issue or xoom issue?
Will it ever get better or are some of the older apps never going to work?
I also have trouble with web sites that have flash video using either the standard browser or firefox.
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Everything will work soon - XOOM has been out a month now only and it's the first device with Honeycomb. Samsung, LG and others have announced their own Honeycomb devices and Google has their dev conference (Google I/O) coming up soon which will also help. Like previous years people think they'll be giving out free XOOMs to devs so that will help.
Look at Android - when 1.5 came out you could have said the same thing but now look we're at 2.3 and the apps are plenty. You just have to have some patience and enjoy the ride!
I'll say is more like 45%
Since geting the wifi version on Sunday I been having a lot of fc on apps I use daily. I'm begining to regret selling my archos 101 to get this
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Other than the chrome browser being sluggish and closing when it feels like it, all the apps I have work as intended. This includes pandora. I don't use slacker.
Agree. There still needs to be time given to get the devs up to speed on honey.
Search for the nook version of pandora it works great
Fwiw : the only app that FC on my Wifi Xoom was the XDA app. Solved that by dl'ing tapatalk. All other apps work fine for me. And my browser works fine. Not laggy at all. Only one FC in 4 days of heavy use. Don't know if its hardware, firmware, or the apps and web pages that are different.
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I'm getting a lot of FCs too.
what I did is downloaded spare parts and put compatibility mode and it seemed to make apps that fc'ed work make sure and reboot though
Have 117 apps in my drawer, and uninstalled numerous others for random reasons. Only FCs I've had are Facebook.
Only difference I can think of is using ROM Manager to fix filesystem permissions. Always fixed FCs on my phone after ROM switches.
I keep seeing mentions of XDA, but the app has worked perfectly for me from day 1 on my Xoom. Same with Pandora.
All of that aside though, it has been in CONSTANT use, almost every waking moment, since a few days after release.
EDIT: Different critter though, that WiFi thing? I can't say that is true, because these have popped up about 3G as well. Try running the permission fix, if you're rooted.
I get a lot of FC's and it seems like a lot of apps crash.. Def not a good feeling, but the fact that I can do a lot that the iPad can not, i am going to stick with it. I know it will get better.
But in my world, I have gone from old Windows Phones (pocket PC's) Palm OS's to iPhone, to Android, and a lot of other I think.. I mess with all of them, hack them in some way of ROM's outside software or whatever.
I seem to make them ALL unstable, and with that being said, FC's are not new to me. BUT I will say that the Xoom seems like the most buggy, but it's also the newest at time of purchace. witch makes me think that it will just get better, as 3.0.x and 3.1.x etc come out. I am almost sure that Moto will upgrade it.
X fingers!
but no matter what, I hope you and everyone else, keeps supporting the openness of the Android platform!
Other than Facebook and a Bible app, I have had 0 FCs among my 41 apps. ??
Xoom certainly has its issues. They seem more severe than the nexus s issues as far as software stability is concerned. Some legacy apps work flawlessly, others are horrible and crash or generally misbehave. I haven't had any os instability though, just individual app crashes.
This os is a big jump. The devs need to take notice and start building compatibility. A good thing to start with would be adding that one line of code to enable hardware acceleration. Some apps are laggier here than on older android devices. You can tell when that's been added to an application when it's as smooth as butter.
I'm pretty happy with it though. Currently just need to find a good news reader that's not pulse (ie need 2 way Google reader sync). Currently I'm using Newsrob, but it's not optimised for tablets. But at least it runs!
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Xoom certainly has its issues. They seem more severe than the nexus s issues as far as software stability is concerned. Some legacy apps work flawlessly, others are horrible and crash or generally misbehave. I haven't had any os instability though, just individual app crashes.
This os is a big jump. The devs need to take notice and start building compatibility. A good thing to start with would be adding that one line of code to enable hardware acceleration. Some apps are laggier here than on older android devices. You can tell when that's been added to an application when it's as smooth as butter.
I'm pretty happy with it though. Currently just need to find a good news reader that's not pulse (ie need 2 way Google reader sync). Currently I'm using Newsrob, but it's not optimised for tablets. But at least it runs!
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Check out 'NewsR'. It's awesome and the dev is working with me on iterating it pretty fast so it'll get better fast.
I know it's $3 so maybe try it quick since you have 15 mins for refund but you won't be dissapointed. Just keep in mind this is only a second release but he's got an aggressive roadmap ahead.
I have read through all of the "issues" threads and there seems to be a lot of inconsistancy except for the gmail widget(I don't use it anyway). Has anybody had marked improvements over 3.0? Any less FC's or SOD's?
I ask because I am very happy with my Tf so far and am kind of reluctant to install.
So far everything seems basically the same. I didnt lose my widget but my gtalk application keeps saying its lost connection to the server despite it being on a known to be reliable data connection and actively surfing. Not sure if thats really 3.1 though.
Its better for me. Did not lose gmail widget; YouTube is much better; Browsing seems better. Need to play more to see what else, and validate better browsing.
The battery seems to stay longer than before (with the dock), i have charged it this afternoon till around 2pm and up till now (10:45pm) it is still at 100%, with no light flashing from the keyboard dock battery indicator.
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Yeah I should note that the youtube app plays videos well now.
I only had a few hours with 3.0 but 3.1 is nice. There are a few FC issues and that's it.
I've had a few issues with 3.1... primarily that my TF seems to randomly reboot when sleeping. Its annoying.
But, its well worth the fact that youtube runs great and browsing has been better. Primarily youtube though, old firmware youtube was absolutely embarassingly bad. I didn't want to show my friends my sweet expensive gadget that couldn't play a video
So far no bad issue.
Not sure about this gmail widget as i do recall seeing one before. But my unit want to update to 3.0.1 when I got it.
What I have noticed
1. Better browser behavior
2. more controls on browser when set to appear.
3. Video playing is much better. I watch a podcast before 3.1 I could not watch there HD videos. Know I can.
My honest opinion is that this was a step in the right direction but it better not be the last step. Though youtube app is playing better and more controls in the browser, expandable widgits are good there are still issues. There's little hitches in general from time to time and flash still doesnt seem like it plays all that well. Overall it's a good step but not the super improvement some of the reviews have stated.
Videos play slightly smoother but still not silky smooth. I've tried encoding the videos many many times with both baseline (yes even baseline) and high profile handbrake presets from another thread, but the video still lags compared to playing the same video on my desktop. Is anyone else facing the same problem or is it just me?
I still don't have the dock update which is a bit more critical in my book since I sold my laptop. Typing in the browser just stinks. I'm glad I'm a fairly accurate typist. The tablet itself seems a bit snappier. Videos play a bit smoother. I just want my typing speed.
High profile h.264 playing, smoother UI. I never got any SOD's anyway. And so few FC's that its tough to tell if that's better so soon. I'm _very_ happy.
I do still want a little more, E.G. it looks like there is mkv container support in 3.1 but the file extension isn't plumbed in for some reason. I'd also like a portrait mode for the market.
So after theupdate i figured id start freah and did a facrory reset
Ive notcied my boot up time tobe faster.
Doesnt hang on the asus logo for long anynore
I'd appreciate others adding to this thread as they install 3.1 in the coming days. I'm also 100% satisfied with my TF and don't want to start getting frustrated. I've now read reports of wi-fi dropout, random dock disconnect, decreased battery life, and random reboots after 3.1. I also use the Gmail widget a TON, so I'm a bit worried about losing that...
Thanks for the reports everyone!
video performance is far superior
hdmi support is far superior
Browser is a bit more flaky
a little concerned about the quadrant drop especially where it hags on the database test.
all in all worth it, but hopefully not the end.
I just replaced the Gmail widget with the email widget and added in my hotmail
You can get the gmail widget using muliple methods if you lost it in the update, stop being so damn lazy and look for the method and THEN complain about it.
Browser speed and inbrowser scrolling is much worse after the 3.1 update
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gottahavit said:
video performance is far superior
hdmi support is far superior
Browser is a bit more flaky
a little concerned about the quadrant drop especially where it hags on the database test.
all in all worth it, but hopefully not the end.
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In what way hdmi is supperior? It was working ok before here with the exception of too much cuts in the edges of the screen.
Does the stock music player workokay for you guys after the update? Some have said it stops when the screen is asleep. I guess it doesn't go to the next song right away.
I'm going to start by saying I absolutely love my transformer... and am definetly going to stay and hope the platform will grow. But I don't think anyone will argue that browsing on it is not the same as a computer or even netbook. My grandma has a 400 dollar netbook and Still it outperformed the transformer. Im running Prime 1.4, overclocked to 1.6 and still it is not enough. Sites don't load correctly, things don't click, and just other stuff just doesn't work as it does on a real PC.
So my question is Do you guys think well ever get a full fledged browsing experience? I no this isn't a computer but it should be able to browse like one I think. And do you guys think these issues are more honeycomb related then hardware?
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Sometimes things don't click because a lot of websites aren't exactly optimized for touches. Same reason we have problems with things that require mouse-hover functions.
Currently it's "good enough" for me, personally.
I've got a question regarding browser performance. Using the stock browser, when I scroll down a web page, there is a very noticeable lag in the newly exposed section filling in. For example, when I scroll down an XDA forum, the bottom of my screen is a blank brown/tan for a moment before anything loads. I tested the same sites on my dual core phone and there were no delays or visible blank spots when scrolling -it looks continous and smooth whereas the Transformer appears to be slowly loading each new section. I'm on my second unit and don't recall it being nearly as bad on the first. My keyboard lag is also ridiculous.
Is this experience common or do I again have a defective Transformer
That's common, try switching to xda classic at the bottom if you can't tolerate it. There its the xda app too.
i thinks its eather asus custome UI, even though its pretty vanilla, its still laggier than stock. that and HC is a bit laggier than phone ver. of Android. Just gotta wait for updates i guess.
Did I hear that hardware accerlation in the browser could b in I've cream sandwich? That will help surely.
Have to say I agree. My partner is getting pissed off with it as we sold our netbook for Thursday tf.
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i feel you with the things dont click, this is a problem with touch screens across all devices, other wise for a tablet the browsing is great. you shouldnt expect it to be up to par with a full operating system such as windows....yet
try opera browser instead
Opera does not support flash, but Flash in general is bad on Honeycomb, so you could argue that no browsers support it...
Opera has stated that it is because of Google not releasing the sources to Honeycomb, but that should change with Icecream Sandwitch (unless Google changes its mind again). It will take a while, early next year at the soonest.
If you can live without flash, Opera is indeed the best browser of the bunch.
I bet any tablet has that screen draw issue in browsers, my iPad does the same thing but instead of blank it's a checkerboard pattern, never really bugged me too much. I'm like Dolphin HD so far, I did really like Opera but it has a problem that makes me not use it. I like to use the trackpad with 2 finger swipe to move the page around which works fine in other browsers, butin Opera it's like a gesture that does some wierd thing so I quit using it.
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I bet any tablet has that screen draw issue in browsers, my iPad does the same thing but instead of blank it's a checkerboard pattern, never really bugged me too much. I'm like Dolphin HD so far, I did really like Opera but it has a problem that makes me not use it. I like to use the trackpad with 2 finger swipe to move the page around which works fine in other browsers, butin Opera it's like a gesture that does some wierd thing so I quit using it.
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I use opera mobile to open forums. smooth scrolling and no laggy page drawing. only use flash supported browser to stream videos.
i was annoyed by the slow browsing experience also using dolphin hd but i found that if you turn off JavaScript it significantly speeds up page loading.
Patience is a virtue...
Web browsing on android has came a very far way in just a few years. Microsoft had decades to optimize windows for browsing the web, android (especially honeycomb) just came into the game.
Web browsing works remarkably well when take into account that android (Once again, especially honeycomb) is still very much a premature OS still trying to iron out and optimize.
Don't get caught up in all the hype revolving around the hardware in android phones and benchmarks, etc. The hardware has never been the problem, once the software gets optimized and focused on web browsing will be just as good or even surpass OSx, ios and windows.
Links that don't react to clicking is probably not a touch screen problem but a bug in browser. In Dolphine when i use long tap and select "open in new window" it still doesn't open them many times. And new Dolphine proibably uses stack browser for viewing pages because it has the same problems as the stock browser.
Has anyone tried SkyFire? I t works quite well on my HD2 and has Flash support
You just have to try opera mobile! It is indeed the best brouwser for the transformer.
Yeah opera moblie seems to be the like the fastest browser among the stock and dolphina, but I don't heard alot of people complaining about the small font size. Am I crazy but the font is way to small on opera. So no one has issues with it? Increasing the font size from 9 to 12 does help but its not perfect.
Opera mobile not playing flash is a deal breaker. Fix it and most will move to opera.
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Opera mobile not playing flash is a deal breaker. Fix it and most will move to opera.
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It does play flash. You have to enable desktop agent: http://articlecms.in/3691-how-to-run-opera-mobile-in-full-desktop-mode.html
"In the browser address bar type opera:config
Scroll down to User preferences and click on it
Scroll to custom user agent
Type this into the text box Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00
Click save
Restart the app"
I just find the browser to be slow. Sadly my notion ink adam broswer was much faster which was also running flash and was set fordesktop user agent
Hey everyone. I'm planning on getting the Tab, and I was wondering if Honeycomb is decently stable and responsible on the Tab, as I understand from some of the posts here that Honeycomb is still a bit beta-y.
Namely:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
-Do apps force close often?
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
Thanks in advance for any answers.
I've had mine for approx 24 hours (and have barely put it down).
No force closes, no lag to speak of, and every app I've installed has worked. Maybe the benefit of low expectations, or being used to a Vibrant, but Honeycomb is awesome.
The only thing I've run into: I have a very strong wifi connection, and at least 3 or 4 times in Gmail and the market, it says "no connection-retry?"
Every time I retry it connects.
Anyway, that's my perspective after a whole day, for what it's worth.
Youtube is excellent.
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
I've seen a few catches here and there. Nothing to completely turn me away.
-Do apps force close often?
I've only had issues with one app and reinstalled it no probs after that.
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
I've noticed a small amount of lag. Especially with the stock launcher. I'm not surprised because most of the stock devices that I've played around with have had the same small lag.
I've also noticed that a lot more apps stay running on the tablets. That can't help with the lag.
I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
It's a great device. Honeycomb is a bit buggy. If you run some apps that aren't optimized for it, it force closes at times.
If you can handle that, it's a great device.
Cool, everything sounds good. Can't wait to get my Tab now!
Got 10.1 retail 16gb with 3.1, unlocked from Frys yesterday. Auto installed all of my applications, total of 100+ from Market & Amazon through HTC Thunderbolt 4G LTE hot spot within minutes. I have Samsung 7" tab since last thanksgiving. Works everything, loves it. A keeper for me.
I just got my GT 10.1 yesterday and thus far I am very happy. Runs smooth and seems stable in my (limited) experience.
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I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
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Supercurio has already said the Tab doesn't need a lag fix, so there may not be voodoo for it (although he already has the sound enhancements going)
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I've used test devices asking with rc touchWiz units - lags are present, but vanilla honeycomb is bloody smooth, it felt as the most fluid honeycomb tab (I've used all major ones out there)
I think this "lag" should be fixed with the 3.2 update which is due on xoom in next few weeks - it has "improved hardware acceleration"
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I've had a a few issues with apps force closing on me, and a couple of instances of slight lag in the interface as well, but overall I really like this device. Form factor is nice, screen is great and battery life is phenomenal.
I think the few issues with the 10.1 will be fixed in time - either by Samsung/Google or third party developers - so I'm not terribly worried. In the case that they aren't, these issues are slight and do not occur regularly so I can easily live with them - even if I shouldn't have to.
X10D3 said:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
I've seen a few catches here and there. Nothing to completely turn me away.
-Do apps force close often?
I've only had issues with one app and reinstalled it no probs after that.
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
I've noticed a small amount of lag. Especially with the stock launcher. I'm not surprised because most of the stock devices that I've played around with have had the same small lag.
I've also noticed that a lot more apps stay running on the tablets. That can't help with the lag.
I'm personally can't wait for the voodoo lagfix to hit kernels.
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The original Voodoo lagfix for Galaxy S phones was used to convert the filesystem on the device to EXT3/4 from lackluster RFS, from what I am reading and experiencing Samsung is using EXT3 filesystem on the Tab, so the lagfix is pointless.
Kernel tweaks and fine tuning of the Honyecomb when the source becomes available should address the lag issues if ever.
Supercurio won't need to do the lagfix needed for the Galaxy S devices, but he may still have a few filesystem tweaks and whatnot to contribute that will give a small (possibly negligible) boost to performance on the Tab. He did that for the Nexus S, even though the Nexus S used EXT4.
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mrsbelpit said:
The only thing I've run into: I have a very strong wifi connection, and at least 3 or 4 times in Gmail and the market, it says "no connection-retry?"
Every time I retry it connects.
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Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
Honeycomb runs real smooth on my Galaxy Tab. Though I have noticed a few hiccups, these include:
1) Sometimes it doesn't recognize that I have headphones plugged in, I have to reboot the tablet then it works fine. Not exactly a huge issue for me as I don't use headphones that often and it hasn't done it a lot.
2) If you have the keyboard dock, they are like oil and water. The tablet automatically goes into Clock mode and won't come out. You have to toy around with setting a different default keyboard, keep docking and undocking the tablet and even test with docking it with the screen off vs with the screen on to get it to recognize that keyboard as a keyboard and stop putting the device in Clock mode with no keyboard functionality. I haven't quite figured out a single method that works every time, but once you get it working that keyboard makes things so much easier to work with when typing a lot!
3) There is some lag with the interface, but nothing too bad. The worse lag is with typing. With or without the keyboard, the typing lag is horrendous and it's the only lag on this system that actually bugs me.
4) There is the occasional wake-up jam. This isn't tablet specific, but Android specific... when your device just won't wake up and you have to hold the power key for 15 seconds then release and hold again for a few seconds and the device will reboot. This has happened to me twice after charging overnight. In the morning the screen won't come on and I have to hold the power button, release then hold again and the device will power up. Fully charged.
I am hoping these are fixed with the official Samsung release with the TouchWiz overlay. I am thoroughly happy with the galaxy tab 10.1 and do not regret my purchase in any way, shape, or form. Bugs are to be expected, but for a device as expensive as this one it doesn't hurt to hope the manufacturer would address them with the next update...lol.
BlackOtaku said:
-Does it play YouTube videos fine?
-Do apps force close often?
-Is there a lot of lag on the device?
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The YouTube app has been almost flawless for me. I think it did force crash once or twice.
Regarding force closures. There has been big improvements since the days I had a Xoom and Android 3.0. YouTube crashed once, maybe twice. The Browser app crashed once. I don't think Market has crashed yet, but it's still a little quirky.
Most of the force closures seem to be from third party apps that haven't been updated in a while. But I have apps I use daily that never force close. Pulse is rock stable, Opera Mini is rock stable. Just started using News 360 and it seems stable so far. Dropbox very stable.
The Honeycomb launcher is a bit laggy. I'm living with it. I tried alternative launchers like ADW Launcher and Launcher Pro, but I find those two look pretty ugly and the icons get all messed up when I rotate the tablet. I love how the Honeycomb launcher reserves blank space on the wide side of the tablet so icon spacing stays even. I guess I'm a little weird about that.
So far I think my biggest issue is streaming. I really have more trouble with streaming apps on the Galaxy Tab 10.1 than I have with other tablets. Pandora will freeze up when it's in the background too long. TuneIn Pro seems to buffer a lot more on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Has my wondering if the wifi is that good or if there is some software issue. And I've had some intermittent "no network connection" errors as I mentioned in a previous post.
Ravynmagi said:
Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
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That ironic. My Atrix does this, and it annoys me to no end (the Atrix has HORRIBLE WiFi connectivity) and in comparison my galaxy tab is fantastic. I connect to WiFi quickly, I get a strong data flow with fast uploads and downloads and no issues with disconnecting from the network.
Ravynmagi said:
Very same thing happens to me. My Xoom or Transformer never did this, and my Nook Color and Galaxy S Vibrant also never had issues with my wifi connection.
So I thought it might have been a hardware problem, also because I hadn't seen anyone mention it on this board. I returned my Galaxy Tab 10.1 and got a replacement. The replacement is doing it too. So I am now guessing it might be software.
Glad to see at least I'm not the only one having this problem. Haha.
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The really weird thing is that it only seems to happen in the native google apps. The first day I had it, it happened 3 or 4 times, then yesterday not once. I'm just wondering if Comcast was buggy that day. It's been known to happen.
I've had it for nearly two weeks (I am fortunate enough to live in New York so I ran to Best Buy in Union Square before the "official release"). I had a Xoom for awhile, and 3.1 is certainly an improvement.
I am not a power user as far as media goes, I am more email/web browsing/business apps, so I haven't had any major issues with Youtube, it's seemed pretty smooth for me.
The stock browser freezes up when a drop down menu is selected, and there's a long list of choices. Freezes, and closes all windows. Pain in the butt. I don't love any of the browsers on the Market (they all seem to be buggy as well and/or only open in mobile mode), and this is just a problem I'll have to deal with.
I've found that the battery life is good, but not great. Perhaps I have things running in the background that I shouldn't. But I'm not seeing more than about 5-6 hours, and as I mentioned I'm just using email and web browsing for the most part.
Overall, I recommend.
No issues for me outside of the odd program force closing. Google Music did that to me a few times until I updated it.
Stock browser is a little buggy at times. It didn't sync all my bookmarks well. I'm still looking for a good browser. Dolphin HD is alright.
Youtube runs perfectly fine.
Only a few apps force close on the Tab and sometimes the browser force closes, but rarely.
And there's only a slight lag on the home screen. It's barely noticeable but it's less smooth as compared to the iPad. Hopefully, 3.2 will improve the experience.
Super duper fast, no issues, quick boot, ahhhhhh it's snappy as, it's perfect c: dunno what yous are whining about
Sustantivo said:
Super duper fast, no issues, quick boot, ahhhhhh it's snappy as, it's perfect c: dunno what yous are whining about
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they seek attention...thats all.
ICS is a dream,well put there sir.
the only true problem is the screen responsiveness but i can live with that as it is the first release.
its super fast,super smooth,at last i have a working browser that loads in the speed of light even the most bad written web pages full of ads which of course i have disabled with adfree and generally its ten times better than any laptop and netbook.
hardware keyboard is so responsive,no lag at all as in the terrible hc and apps load like hell.
i am in love with my tablet at last and yes,now i see why tablets are the future.
with HC i had my tablet closed like for a month....
Some of more "simple" people in this world get more hyped up the longer they wait for something, in the end, there is no way they would be happy with what they end up with, so much so they can't even see the good stuff anymore.
Im in love
horndroid said:
I never waited for ICS on my TF. I've already had ICS on my phone for a while. I knew what it was going to be like.
After getting ICS today on my TF, I can objectively say that it's nothing to get your panties wet about, and it never was. It's a minor update at best.
Your tablet must have been really badly optimized and cluttered with junk if updating to ICS made it "work like a dream".
If you notice that much of a difference in performance, the problem wasn't the OS. It was you.
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The upgrade to the browser alone qualifies it as a major upgrade, its gone from a slow buggy mess to something that is a joy to use. Just being able to type this reply without the 3 second lag for every key press is a breath of fresh air
itchyeyeballs said:
The upgrade to the browser alone qualifies it as a major upgrade, its gone from a slow buggy mess to something that is a joy to use. Just being able to type this reply without the 3 second lag for every key press is a breath of fresh air
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thank you (raising hand at the same time)
I must say that I initially was disappointed. I expected a lot of user interface changes and a heap of new functions. But got disappointed when it looked just like before.
But annoying lags are gone, I discover small improvements all the time and I am beginning to really appreciate this update.
My favourite new feature so far is app folders on the desktop.
LWP is useless so the ones getting a slower device because of it is just getting what they deserve. Bling should be on your girlfriends fingers, not on your tablet.
i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
pimjai said:
i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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I read somewhere that ICS is supposed to be a major upgrade for phones Android 2.X. Android 3.X is for tablets only. Android 4 is a merge of these two strategies, therefor the changes are bigger for phones than tablets.
I think the article summed up that ICS is a way to bring the Honeycomb upgrade to phones.
+1 ICS is greeeat...
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Works perfectly here.
Time to download the chrome browser
Dream Indeed
I have been aboard the android train since my Galaxy s.
Used to run darky's roms then switched to paulforde's 4.2. This already made me feel ICS really is a major update.
Got my EEpad about 3 months ago. And switched to GnuFabio's Revolver rom, which I loved. Yesterday I flashed the Full WW ICS after only wiping cache and Dalvik, booted into ICS, booted into recovery and the installed the update over it. And I must say, this is my best Android experience so far. Especially during swiping through screens I always noticed quite a few frames were being dropped. And occasional keyboard lag.. also sometimes the memory management seemed to play tricks on me from time to time.
But so far this really is feeling like a dream even though my device is running stock and used to run @1.4Ghz. I am loving this !
I'm really digging ICS as well. At first I found it a bit clunky and did have trouble with the screen responsiveness but after a few hours of use it seemed fade away and is now snappier than ever.
My only complaint is with the browser and the backwards step they took removing the ability to change the default User Agent permanently. Same thing with Chrome Beta. Why make a fancy browser only to have it display stuff meant for a 3-5 inch display? I'm not too upset as I'm sure it will be one of the first things they fix in the next major update(s) to ICS.
Maybe i had low expectations, but this update has really impressed me; noticeably faster, not blindingly so, but faster nonetheless eg. the 'recent apps' button - before you'd have a 1-2 delay, now it's instant.
The browser is massively improved, no more blocky rendering when scrolling through xda, no typing lag, no random crashes, much more stable. Other little things you keep noticing: drag 'n drop files in the files manager; ctrl+shift+arrows to select words etc.
Sure, there's nothing earth shattering about ICS - but for me, the transformer now works like I always imagined it should work.
I love ICS also on my tf101!!
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I'm happy with the Update. The Tablet feels more responsive now.
I agree its working great.
Can actually use the stock browser now with xda lol
Only 1 bug so far... changing to panorama mode kills the camera.. no biggie
Another happy customer here. 2 random reboots. But its running how it should
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pimjai said:
i don`t think ICS is a mayor update, for me it feels more like a polished version of HC, with less of the small annoying lags, and a lot of other small problems are gone. the only thing i would consider mayor about it, is the upgraded browser and the chrome beta. finally two web browsers on my TF which i realy like.
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yes i totally agree. ICS is what HC should have been.... Well at least were finally here..I'm loving my TF even more
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eScape2000 said:
Works perfectly here.
Time to download the chrome browser
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chrome is nothing to write home about....not as fast as opera. i was really looking for it to replace Opera but i guess not. Everything else is much faster now on ICS