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Magic with froyo 2.2?

There were some rumors that some of the Android devices of HTC will not receive the newest update to Android Froyo 2.2. While this is partially true, we’re happy to say that HTC Magic is not included in that “black list”.
As announced by the second largest French mobile operator SFR, the device will receive the desired Froyo soon. Some believe that this will take place even in this month. T-Mobile has also plans to update myTouch 3 G which is basically the same device to Froyo by the end of this year.
Let’s say that the device looks to handle the novelties quite well, considering the fact “of not being that new”. Good job!
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http://www.htcphones.net/htc-magic-to-get-froyo-2-2-update/
so correct me if im wrong... but if the htc magic gets official android 2.2 does that mean the amazing developers here are going to have a field day with it and make it even better and more customizable than the actual creators of it?
I sure hope so would love to have a nice custom rom with 2.2 that works and with tons of bonus stuff pre installed.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but the amazing developers here are having a field day since the froyo source was dropped in to AOSP a few days ago. CM6 should be just around the corner.

i know they are already playing with it, but with a copy from the actually phone i imagine it would be easier to mod and play with since they dont have to port and do all kinds of ridicules things to get it to work on another phone.

sike89 said:
i know they are already playing with it, but with a copy from the actually phone i imagine it would be easier to mod and play with since they dont have to port and do all kinds of ridicules things to get it to work on another phone.
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Remember that the 32B Magic is the ION/ADP2, everything you need to get a fully working ROM is supplied in the AOSP. What you're suggesting is probably more relevant to devices like the Hero. At any rate, we'll probably see CM6 or some other froyo ROM before a shipped one.

ok well you seem to know more than i do so i hope a 2.2 near perfect rom comes out soom. im so excited lol

Yeah me too, Cyan's feed is the only reason I'm checking twitter atm, really looking forward to speed increases

[Q] Dj Steves streakdroid, what does it offer?

Hello All,
Hope we are all having a Merry Xmas so far, and no-one else is suffering with a broken boiler and water mains....at least we have our internet and streaks to keep us busy.
Well, here goes. I am a relatively new streak owner, and the streak is my first foray into the world of android. I wasnt very happy with my 1.6 legacy system and was overjoyed to see the official 2.2 update finally drop from o2 (that was a long time coming!!!). I am now getting more accustomed to android, and I see that if I want to stay up to date in this world I really should be using DJ Steves Streakdroid. What I cannot seem to find out from many places is why.
What does StreakDroid offer me that the official FroYo doesnt? Does anyone have screenshots to show me how it actually looks. I dont seem to think the official FroYo is that bad, although I have only been running it for about 4 days!
Prior Handsets
HTC HD2 WM7
SEX1
SEP1i

I would also like to know the answer to this question. My wife and i both have the streak. ( She had to have the white one) Right now we are both running 2.2 with no issues. I can we go to DJ_steve and not have any issues. When i was running the first release of DJ_steve the camera settings kept rotating and the same with watching youtube.

well the streaks my first android as well....
I have been jumping around and flashing roms left right n centre, had the unlocked official 2.2, then added performance fix to it, then went to steves, then went to official o2's 2.2 and then finally now am sticking to steves 1.5.1..
the major reason for choosing this has been because of the performance improvements....his build really doesnt have any lags, free from carrier junk and also contants improvements and development happening(which though can be a pain if u dont like jumping around roms and have to backup each time)...
my personal suggestion would be...if u the type of person who is satisfied with the performance of the official 2.2 and have no probs with it, and also dont like flashing roms then stick to the official build.
on the other hand if u like fast development speeds and pretty regular updates to ur existing roms, plus a faster rom, however with some issues (such as gps fixes and accelerometer being doggy at times for some people) then u shud shift to steve's...
another suggestion is...u cud probably install the official 318 or 315 builds and apply the performance fixes( basically flashes steve's kernal into ur official build), then u probably have the official 2.2 and also the performance fixes from steves rom...
either ways its more dependent on what u are satisfied with...u can always give steves rom a try, and if u dont like it then flash back the original...
sorry for grammar mistakes...wrote it in a hurry...

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Good Bye HD2

Today is the day, when i said good bye to my HD2.
It has been qute an experience owning the device and trying all these different WinMo, Android SD and Nand, Windows Phone 7, but i guess i got tired of all those, what is working and not working rom, and now i deceided to get a Xperia X10...
I want to thank all of the developers, testers, and all of the users of this subforum. Great job guys.

Shame... I had an X10 for about a week before I got rid for the HD2 (my second HD2) ... The X10 has a few 'quirks' of it's own but nothing reflashing can't fix.

ithink hd2 its quite good device, since all my friend complaining baout that n this on their soner device...
HTC is more experienced for PDA things than

I've got HD2 with Rafdroid and X10 (updated to 2.1). After using X10 I still come back to my second phone (I find Sense much, much more useful than Sony's firmware - especially these things that decide about phone functionality - adress book (searching is much better in Sense), phone and so on.)

I owned a X10 before but i was disappointed.

lmao. So let me get this straight, you're going from HD2 to the X10? In case that wasn't clear enough...
YOU'RE GOING FROM THE HD2 to the X10?!
lulz

Yep, i got rid of my 9 months old HD2 for a brand new X10, which has everything right out of the box. I wanted to have android for so long and i have tried qute a few sd and nand builds, but still there is something not working. i.e. i must connect to wpa2 enterprise network everyday ... no build support that... sorry hd2 ....

dddnnnggg said:
Yep, i got rid of my 9 months old HD2 for a brand new X10, which has everything right out of the box. I wanted to have android for so long and i have tried qute a few sd and nand builds, but still there is something not working. i.e. i must connect to wpa2 enterprise network everyday ... no build support that... sorry hd2 ....
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I hope you enjoy the Experience (get it lol)
imho, (and i provide phone tech support for virgin), you are correct to say its all the out of the box, but the build quality, mtbf*, useability, screen quality, reception and software are much below the Leo.
Don't forget that SE don't as a rule supply updates for their phones, and don't expect to update the rom on the X10 this centuary.
You would have made a better choice to go for a Wildfire S
Mean time between failures

If I was you, id try and sell the x10 and get a superior phone, perhaps an Hd2, if you need advice on running wp7 and android, we can help
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lude219 said:
lmao. So let me get this straight, you're going from HD2 to the X10? In case that wasn't clear enough...
YOU'RE GOING FROM THE HD2 to the X10?!
lulz
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What he said ^

Gosh guys, if he gets a new phone don't kill him over it. Fact is, our hd2 is non comparable to a true android phone. So it's obvious he's got a better android phone than us. Don't trash him about it.
PS. if any of you guys try to tell me that our hd2's are faster than android phones, root the android phone, tweak it, then flash a custom rom / kernel, then you'll see that android phone flying beyond what our hd2's can do.

niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Yeah I would think the HD2 the better of the two ?

X10 has locked bootloader - there are few custom ROMs and SE said they won't update the official Android in Xperia.
You wanted Android from the box - why not Galaxy S?

Pabliell said:
X10 has locked bootloader - there are few custom ROMs and SE said they won't update the official Android in Xperia.
You wanted Android from the box - why not Galaxy S?
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Because the galaxy s is known for it's hardware problems. However I find the problems insignificant in my case and opinion.
Now personally I find you choice of the X10 a bad one, as the desire, desire hd or even desire z would have been a better choice. But hey, congrats on the new device. :3

Hi guys! i'll be going to singapore soon to buy my htc hd2. Missed all the tweakings. Had an xda, then xda exec then got an htc shift (still with me now). Looking forward to have one soon.

You chahged hd2 for xperia? If I were you I wouldn't tell anyone about this stupidity. You are crazy, man!

When i had a Xperia X10 i waited 4 months for an update. And not to 2.2 or 2.3 but
from 1.6 to 2.1.(The first and last update for the Xperia X10 family.)
When i got the update guess what, still no multitouch, no adobe flash player,same laggy Timescape and Mediascape.And did not mention the BIG quadrant score: somewhere around 460-500, with the update.
So i did own a Xperia X10i for 4 months and i can say from experience that the HD2 android it is far better than the Xperia X10i.
This is only my opinion. I was happy to change the X10 for a HD2.
You did the opposite.Hope you will be happy with it.

SE Arc: same HUGE mistake by SE?

I hope SE marketing dudes can read this too!
I was a SE fanboy since the T68 and I only left them last year for the Nexus One, the reason?
HTC didn't lock everything in their Google Android phone and I can change any rom I want whenever I want,keeping me not to get bored by the same UI...
When I saw the presentation of the SE ARC I said to myself ''what a jewel!'' and was convinced to come back to SE,BUT it looks like SE doesn't want me or many many other people to get an ARC because they didn't understand the meaning of Android OS = Rooting and Custom Roms!!
Samsung in another hand understood very well the Android buyers needs and that's why the Galaxy S was a huge success...
In other words: SE is not learning from their errors or they don't want to?

Hahaha, how much do you want to hate a brand to start the 40th of such a topic. If you visit xda often you know there are hundreds of these kind of topics, tell me, why you open a new topic for this. 20 seconds of reading and you found lots of the same....
Mods, please delete this...this whole section will be a mess...just keep the flamers in one topic....
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The arc is rumoured to be more open than X10. Guess we just have to wait and see

The only reason Android has been about rooting and custom roms is because the core OS has been quite crappy up til now.. and the mannfacturer UI's have been dull and not intuitive or simple... this is all moving along rather quickly now and the core OS is significantly better.. close to full dual/ multicore processor support and the UI's are getting better, more friendly..
99% of users won't want to root and install custom ROM's when the preinstalled ones work.. and work really well.... the magic of Android is that there will be lots of UI's to choose from so there'll be plenty to cater for differing tastes.. and you can customise your phone loads anyway, before you get to rooting it..

vegetaleb said:
that's why the Galaxy S was a huge success...
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I do indeed see a lot of Galaxy S's out there, but I havnt seen anyone with a custom rom installed so that isnt the reason that it's a success.. maybe, uh, i don't know.. Clever marketing?

TimMun said:
I do indeed see a lot of Galaxy S's out there, but I havnt seen anyone with a custom rom installed so that isnt the reason that it's a success.. maybe, uh, i don't know.. Clever marketing?
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Quite a few of the Galaxy S's that I have seen had some sort of lagfix applied to correct the messed up filesystem that Samsung implemented but on the custom roms I'm absolutely with you.

im_iceman said:
The only reason Android has been about rooting and custom roms is because the core OS has been quite crappy up til now.. and the mannfacturer UI's have been dull and not intuitive or simple... this is all moving along rather quickly now and the core OS is significantly better.. close to full dual/ multicore processor support and the UI's are getting better, more friendly..
99% of users won't want to root and install custom ROM's when the preinstalled ones work.. and work really well.... the magic of Android is that there will be lots of UI's to choose from so there'll be plenty to cater for differing tastes.. and you can customise your phone loads anyway, before you get to rooting it..
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Exactly. The X10 , like almost all other Android devices, is lacking with the stock software, which is why people root and use custom roms. I think that Sony Ericsson might be the first to deliver a fully satisfying 'stock' experience with the new Xperia series, and so that basically eliminates the need to root/rom.

Ambroos said:
Exactly. The X10 , like almost all other Android devices, is lacking with the stock software, which is why people root and use custom roms. I think that Sony Ericsson might be the first to deliver a fully satisfying 'stock' experience with the new Xperia series, and so that basically eliminates the need to root/rom.
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yes.. for most.. but there will always be the hardcore minority who will want to root it regardless of how good the stock ROM is - to remove apps they don't use, or change the UI in a way that you can't on a non-rooted phone!

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yes.. for most.. but there will always be the hardcore minority who will want to root it regardless of how good the stock ROM is - to remove apps they don't use, or change the UI in a way that you can't on a non-rooted phone!
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Exactly, but as you said it's only a hardcore minority, and they should try to understand why Sony Ericsson (or other manufacturers) can't always make sure everything is the way they want it to be!

The minority nowadays are the ones who don't want to root and use custom roms
Even if the stock rom is awesome it's still better to make it faster and enhance some components like camera and audio, now if you are a X10 user and can't enjoy custom roms like we are with HTC it's normal that you live in a world where rooting is like a crime
Oh by the way HTC Sense is awesome that's why I use it from time to time on my N1,now I want speed and smoothness so I am using MIUI,tomorrow when the stock gingerbread will have trackball wake and high def camera I will flash its custom rom
Yes yes most custom roms are based on stock roms so you lose nothing you just get more

vegetaleb said:
The minority nowadays are the ones who don't want to root and use custom roms
Even if the stock rom is awesome it's still better to make it faster and enhance some components like camera and audio, now if you are a X10 user and can't enjoy custom roms like we are with HTC it's normal that you live in a world where rooting is like a crime
Oh by the way HTC Sense is awesome that's why I use it from time to time on my N1,now I want speed and smoothness so I am using MIUI,tomorrow when the stock gingerbread will have trackball wake and high def camera I will flash its custom rom
Yes yes most custom roms are based on stock roms so you lose nothing you just get more
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I beg to differ, think about it, how many members here for the X10 section? 100k? 200K? I don't think we exceed 10k to be honest. Xperia sold in 2010 more than 9 million devices. Calculate that then you'll understand that we are the minorities here, 10% maximum

I'm getting an Arc, and I for instance won't be rooting it or putting a custom rom on it. The X10, I would, just for JIT, but that's about it really... Oh well!

I've just had a look.. and there's current c500 people viewing the X10 forums.. so yeah.. 10k is probably about right.. although alot of them won't have rooted either!

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I've just had a look.. and there's current c500 people viewing the X10 forums.. so yeah.. 10k is probably about right.. although alot of them won't have rooted either!
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Then 10% is probably too much
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0.1% of 9 million is 9000... 1% is 90,000.. so I think we can safely pitch in at less than 1% will have rooted the phone. And sadly for them, they're also oblivious of how much more it can do once rooted!

guys i really wanna buy the xperia neo/ arc (havent yet decided ) but the only thing keeping me away from this decision is the locked bootloader question..
does anyone know whether se is still keeping it locked ? or they finally lstarted listening to people ?
thanks in advance

xilw3r said:
guys i really wanna buy the xperia neo/ arc (havent yet decided ) but the only thing keeping me away from this decision is the locked bootloader question..
does anyone know whether se is still keeping it locked ? or they finally lstarted listening to people ?
thanks in advance
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It will remain locked. Same with other companies as they are now asking SE's advice in locking their device. Atrix should be one of the new handsets that are signed locked.

darn fools all of them
but on the other hand, what IS the actual benefit from having the bootloader unlocked ? installing other kernels to implement roms easier ? OCing ? if thats all then im not exatcly impressed
ofc.. the easy rom implement is sweet, but people seem to be getting around the problem and making roms anyway

xilw3r said:
darn fools all of them
but on the other hand, what IS the actual benefit from having the bootloader unlocked ? installing other kernels to implement roms easier ? OCing ? if thats all then im not exatcly impressed
ofc.. the easy rom implement is sweet, but people seem to be getting around the problem and making roms anyway
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well, you're locked to roms which are made for your kernel version, if you have a locked bootloader
anyway I'm not really too fussed regarding locked bootloader tbh, I want a Android phone that has excellent multimedia options, with sleek design and extremely potent camera, that's exactly what Arc is - I bought x8 just to test out Android and honestly I can't say I'm too dissapointed with them deciding not to support old xperia line of products
I'll be super annoyed if they don't provide future support for the arc though, minimum 2+ years support is what all the mobile phone companies should do with their phones

SE has learned that it doesn't matter and that they can get away with it. It's likely that android will stay on the 2.3/4. Xxxx for a while for phones. But I don't think that they will support any phone past a year anymore.
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Getting My Desire HD

Hi, i should have my Desire HD soon and am very excited.
I recently sold a Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 (was rooted) and was wondering whether or not i should root my new phone and why...
The reason i rooted my previous smartphone was to make it faster but this one has three times the RAM etc. So would it be worth it now?
Also, does Juice Defender require root? It really helped my battery life with my Xperia X10...
Thank in advance!

I have one myself I have it rooted and installed with a custom rom called "Android Revolution HD™ 7.0.0" Great custom rom, would be a shame to not install ;D
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=840040

Why not go for an ICS version? The IceColdSandwich is really nice, have a look at the android development forum of DHD.

While you are still waiting for your brand new DHD, why not prepare yourself with AAHK (advanced ace hack kit) and some good custom ROM. I would recomend you to try Android Revolution HD 6.3.2 (official base with Sense 3.0) or newer 7.0.0 (Sensation XL base with Sense 3.5).
Just don't wait too long to just rooted your phone and install custom ROM, cause once you have grip with good custom ROM like those cooked by mike1986 or JSLEnterprise you will never wanna go back to stock ROM with their bloated app.

I would second IceColdSandwich. Lord did a fantastic job and it has really made me appreciate my phone. When I got my Inspire (same difference as a dhd) it was really only because I needed a phone, this was free with ATT and I couldn't afford one of the "fancier" ones. Since going with an pics from, however, it feels like my phone is top of the line. Does everything I need it to do and now I can really care less if I have the newest released phone. There are still a few bugs, but Lord has been updating like mad recently so its only a matter of time before they get sorted out
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using XDA App

Hey dude. Certainly yes to rooting it
As for Roms to use, a can recommend RCMIX3D Roms and Android Revolution Roms.
My experience of ICS Roms is not good.
But then I use my camera and camcorder loads, and they are the things that are not yet fully operational in any ICS rom.
ICS is coming to the DHD soon anyway, so properly cooked ICS Roms are not far away.
Best of luck dude.
Greg.
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If you really need the root privileges then go for it otherwise you could wait a couple of months since ICS updates with sense 3.5 are going to be rolling for the DHD later this year. If you don't care about that update then get Ace hack kit, root it and I would recommend LeeDroid 5.1.1.
Good Luck!