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So far the Froyo update is going well. I Odin'ed it after a full wipe and cache wipe.
Only thing that is REALLY bothering me is the browser. The DK17 browser was awesome. Simple, and was super fast.
I'm learning to deal with the slow rotation and other little bugs, until some better Froyo roms come out.
In the mean time the browser not auto wrapping text properly and the checkerboards are driving me nuts.
Can someone post the factory pre-update browser so i can test? Am I wasting my time?
This browser on Froyo is weird. It doesn't "auto" wrap the text, but if you pinch to zoom in and then double tap on the screen the text instantly reflows to fit the screen. I kind of like this way better because there are times I dont want the text to reflow.
Also, they got rid of the dumb zoom buttons on this release which is AWESOME.
So basically, zoom in so that the text SHOULD be reflowing to fit the screen, and then double tap. It should reflow instantly. As for your other points, yea, the rotation lag is ridiculous and the checkerboarding is annoying.
Well ****, first off I'm still new to the Epic... just bought mine two weeks ago.
I was under the impression that DK17 was Android 2.1.1 - What the Epic came with from the Sprint store.
Well, it's not... It's 2.2.1
I downloaded and Odin'ed DK17-Extended.art3mis
I just want the COMPLETELY FACTORY 2.1.1 ROM that came from sprint. NO recovery, NO root, Nothing.
I'm going to pull the Browser from that. However after playing around with Froyo more and more... I just don't know if I like it. Seems ALOT slower. Even loaded with 50+ applications on the completely stock sprint ROM, everything was super smooth with the phone. I mean home screen scrolling, LWPs, etc. I've been using the Aquarium LWP with the 3D rendered fish... It's jittery on Froyo with NO applications installed. Unacceptable to me. I'm going back to what Sprint had on the phone to begin with.
Thats because the 2.1 roms were official. The 2.2 Froyo roms are beta or release candidates. Samsung better polish and smooth some things out with Froyo before they release it officially.
Well I'm running the Quantrom ROM right now... everything is a little snappier than the "official" froyo release.
I tried pushing a 2.1 browser.apk to 2.2 and it's a no go. FC immediately.
I guess I'll just use Dolphin for a while.
Does Dolphin support flash with 2.2?
I just started using the dolphin browser casue of the problems listed and man all i can say wow. I cant belive I've waited this long to use this browser, It rocks. I will never go back to the stock browser.
I have it on Bionix-V 1.2.1 and it is acting a bit 'squirrely' Anyone else try it yet?
All my friends are on wordfeud, I don't associate with apple users. lol
Seriously I'll go try it out, I do have a few iphone user friends still that haven't seen the light.
I'm seeing complaints about it being buggy on a bunch of different forums. Then again, what did people really expect from Zynga?
So yeah, make your iPhone friends wait until Word Feud is out for iOS
Wordfued better then wordsmith?
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Is it just my Vibrant, or is the game not sharp when zoomed out? The scored numbers are pretty blurry and not as sharp as on other phones I've seen. When I zoom in they look fine. Anyone else noticing thing?
ngacrs said:
Is it just my Vibrant, or is the game not sharp when zoomed out? The scored numbers are pretty blurry and not as sharp as on other phones I've seen. When I zoom in they look fine. Anyone else noticing thing?
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Looks perfect here. Have you messed with your LCD density value?
not sure how i can do that...i'm running the bionix v 1.2.1 rom. do you think that could be causing a problem?
Lots of force closes.
Clunky, ugly interface.
Notifications spotty at best.
No option to disable sounds so it makes childish noises whenever you open a game or play a words.
Not a spot on Wordfeud, but I do have a lot of iphone friends.
**sigh**
So far I have played maybe 3 games to completion and during that period experienced 8 FC's (thats just really poor coding if you ask me)
The interface is "meh" the lack of a pinch to zoom really feels awkward.
Looking beyond the poor execution, at its core it is a fun game to play with friends just could use quite a bit of improvement.
I'm on Bionix-V 1.2 and WWF looks and plays pretty badly (FC's, board looks janky zoomed out, chat's slow, some games show "their move" when it's really my move, etc). However, like beren28, I have a lot of friends who are iPhone users, so I guess I'm stuck waiting for an update.
ya opiomorph, that's exactly what i'm talking about. i switched roms too, and it still looks crappy zoomed out (compared to how it looks on an htc incredible). Mine also force closes alot.
Tried app on Stock 2.2 and it works fine (i.e. no FCs here). Any problems you're experiencing might not be the apps fault. However, I uninstalled the app because it insists on showing ads "full-screen" after every turn. Anything is better than that.
Softkeyboard or dock, the delay is killing me.
Its a bug i tried stock and prime v1.4 are the same, still cant type in browser, maxthon...
Opera mobile is normal.
The Samsung 10.1 has the same problem (actually worse IMO). Seems to be a Honeycomb issue.
MisterEdF said:
The Samsung 10.1 has the same problem (actually worse IMO). Seems to be a Honeycomb issue.
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Aw, so they need to do a lot to make everything go smoothly.
Now too many unsupported issue.
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The Samsung 10.1 has the same problem (actually worse IMO). Seems to be a Honeycomb issue.
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Seems to be a stock browser issue, actually. As others have reported, Opera works fine because it was built from a completely different browser engine.
I found that the lag in the stock browser is minimal if you disable plugins.
Typing lag and potrait frame rate drop; are the biggest reasons why iPad is winning tablet race. U might not think those 2 things are huge issue but have someone who plays with the iPad and give android tab a try will be turned off by this. I know because my brother put down my xformer noticing so much lag and went back to his fluid iPad. Sucks I hope it gets resolved soon
the keyboard lag while typing in the browser is from the browser autocomplete / autosearch. This doesn't make it OK I know. But if you can turn it off (or a rom can turn it off) it should help.
What people are saying about portrait fps I don't know. Scrolling and zooming in the browser and gallery for example go butter smooth whatever my orientation is.
dipje said:
the keyboard lag while typing in the browser is from the browser autocomplete / autosearch. This doesn't make it OK I know. But if you can turn it off (or a rom can turn it off) it should help.
What people are saying about portrait fps I don't know. Scrolling and zooming in the browser and gallery for example go butter smooth whatever my orientation is.
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not to make fun or anything, but u might not have the eyes to notice a frame drop in portate mode, but its def no where near as smooth as landscape
Since this is (was?) The dev forum I was only giving facts, to help find the source. It's not apparent in every app and or every device. Bb
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Typing lag and potrait frame rate drop; are the biggest reasons why iPad is winning tablet race.
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Well, that and Apple has been in the market almost 2 years. And they advertise at least once on every prime time show I watch.
Anyway, really happy with my Transformer. I'm impressed with how well the apps. work. EVERYTHING WORKS. It may even be better than my Vibrant. Skype and Netflix are my only two issues? Where are you?
I have another tablet (Elocity A7). Same CPU (Froyo), no browser lag. Incredibly snappy. Anyway, the transformer is a huge setup in quality. 3.1 is awesome so far (after a little getting used to).
Generally the browser freakin' awesome. Everything works (except the click lag issue). Something is definitely up with that. I also miss the click highlighting from Froyo.
O wow I've spent a while trying to sort out this issue, glad its not only me!
The lag is pathetic, this is the only thing left letting me down now. I cant believe this is happening with this great tablet!! Google need to sort this out with up-most priority!!
NOW!
Maybe some1 should try to downgrade it to 2.3.3 to reduce the bug in 3.1 )
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Maybe some1 should try to downgrade it to 2.3.3 to reduce the bug in 3.1 )
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Does this happen on the Xoom? If not then maybe someone could port over the apk?
So I installed it yesterday (and thanks to all those who helped).
I think the new ROM is FANTASTIC. Everything works for me, its faster than before and I have no lags. Im using Launcher Pro because the new Blur doesn't support scrolling widgets.
Battery is definitely better (turned on at 6am and had 15% at 6pn which us amazing for me).
Camera has been improved. Pictures look sharper and the colors no longer look weird. I owned an sgs2 and to me the pictures are just as good (and definitely better than the Sensation I owned for a bit). Its also much faster (put it in sport mode and virtually immediate).
Fingerprint reader works. Properly. Period.
Sound on speaker is excellent. Its still the best device on the market.
Sound on earpiece might be a little quieter. I am not certain on this but its something I noticed on my first call.
Gps lock is very quick. It was before too.
Software. Wow what a MASSIVE improvement. Email software is finally useable readable and possibly as good as Sense. Widgets are also better, like weather. Photo software and gallery better. MUSIC is a different application totally. I think I preferred the old one or just need to get used to it. Dialer is improved. Video playback is still great and again an area where this device excels over others I have owned. Animations also very cool. Top bar and notifications simply better than before. Entire color scheme is improved.
Stock keyboard is better but I still make a lot of mistakes when typing. HTC still make the best Android keyboard IMHO and I wish I could port the Sensation keyboard.
Overall its just more elegant and mire pleasurable ti use. For the first time I feel like its a device to show off. I really believe its the best device out there. Had Moto started out with this ROM it would have been considered a device as good as the HD2 in its day.
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I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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I agree that Gingerbread by far is better than Froyo. My Atrix looks and runs so much better.
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After one day on gingerbread, I'd have to say the keyboard's the biggest improvement for me. An @ key without having to press alt first? Yes! Long press keys for numbers? Yes!
I agree. It's a fantastic upgrade and the new skin is slick....my only complaint is that homescreen scrolling isn't as fast as I expected. The forest LWP is a little slow, and pinch to zoom on stock camera gallery isn't as good as my previous phone or 3rd party market apps
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its is an amazing difference
before making the plunge I wud like to know from u guys about the screen gradient issues
is it solved??
like skin tones appeared really odd and washed out
I thot it was a software issue as the screen grabs also showed them on my PC
that was a big gripe for me but for the otherwise near perfect phone
and ya camera quality was also really poor
Are you talking about kenns?
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dunno whom u are asking but am still on froyo
wud love to hear that screen issues are solved
leaving aside the pentile issue as SGS also has pentile but looked better
Battery life is the biggest improvement forvmr
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I freakin love the new ROM. Thanks KP!
They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
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They have made a smart move by selecting a color scheme that greatly reduces the effect of the inherent technical limitations of a Pentile LCD! Its better than Froyo but I guess only because of the color scheme they have decided to go with!
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Even if the color scheme didnt change its 10 times better. Im tired of the complaints about the phone, go get a different one and/or dont complain about this one. We dont care to hear it.
Loving the new rom so far. I do think the cardock app got worse (looks better, but fewer custom buttons). I love how you can uninstall apps using a long press from the app drawer.
I'm also looking forward to trying the ignore call, respond with text option.
Last thing, wish the default music app worked with Google Music Beta... installed the Google one instead.
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Overall, this seems to be working pretty fantastically for me except for a few things.
- Contact List can get REALLY slow sometimes. (15 seconds to load up a contact's information!)
- Unlocking (the screen, not the phone) can get slow, as well as Facebook and a few other apps. Haven't fully tested yet.
Is this happening to anyone else?
So far, i'm loving the new blur, everything is working fine for me.but i hope this is not the final blur version, because i was watching a demo of blur for droid3 on youtube it looks a little bit better then this. The swipe between screens was different and the quick contact widget was different and more useful.
are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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are you sure about the battery life part.. i got a bad battery life thats the reason why i flashed it back to froyo 2.2.2 ( 1.83 sbf ) .. if you are also using kenneth's beta release >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
and if u also talking abotu kenneth's beta one. fingerprint reader doesn't work for me
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I'm pretty sure is not talking about the ken release.
ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
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ohh so its all about the color scheme that's chosen now!!
neways I will wait till the official release
bit scared by the hard brick numbers
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You only hard brick if you try to do the OTA. If you use kennethpenn's method using CWM with an unlocked bootloader you'll have no problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBzTq1xCq8
i made a new video showing browser performance. will be uploaded shortly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBzTq1xCq8
yeah i checked it out too.. not bad
It made me seasick trying to watch.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007
was too shaky, couldn't watch it.
Y U SO SHAKY
lol
chatch15117 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwBzTq1xCq8
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Hey chatch, just a friendly suggestion. You should go out and buy a camera leg stand. Will cost about $5. I used to make my vids while holding my camera, too. Then I discovered the leg stand.
Not bad.
The browser is impressively fast. I assumed GB's was slow because it's tethered.
Browser seems vastly improved. Is there still typing lag?
wow... So glad you decided to switch hands on the second video! Is hardware acceleration there? Or is the browser just that fast?
idk man the subject says i'm a noob. i'm already back on honeycomb. got prime to boot
it is fast as hell though. i can't wait till asus releases the real update so the devs can have at it.
but yes i think it does have hardware accel although flash is broken
I notice browser links highlight now when you press them. I just wanted to make sure, currently on Honeycomb, do browser links highlight for you guys when you press them? This drives me insane that they do not on my tablet.
not in the stock browser. in opera they do
It looks impressively smoth... WOW. Isto liked the small detail of the camera on the lock screen?
how does this work should i flash it?
Hey chatch the browser does look good, and quite an improvement. I usually use stock or Opera. Opera sometimes is slower to load pages, in ICS should I expect to see an improvement in Opera?
Thanks
Bit of a review...
From a Chinese android site
http://i.hiapk.com/news/01132012/053500016.shtml
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I'm glad they improved the stock browser. It's one of my more favorite stock browser's out there.