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4G code in HTC EVO

I just read that Android doesn't naively support Wimax in 2.1 and Sprint put some of their code in to make it work on the EVO. This seems similar to the way HTC used code in 1.5 to make the Hero work before 1.6 came out. Is there any chance we would be able to take that code and have Wimax on the Hero? Please read disclaimer below in case you are about to flame me.
Disclaimer: I realize this may be a really stupid question. I'm unfamiliar with Wimax and what hardware it requires so if the Hero just doesn't have the hardware capabilities then obviously this is a mute point.

richse said:
I just read that Android doesn't naively support Wimax in 2.1 and Sprint put some of their code in to make it work on the EVO. This seems similar to the way HTC used code in 1.5 to make the Hero work before 1.6 came out. Is there any chance we would be able to take that code and have Wimax on the Hero? Please read disclaimer below in case you are about to flame me.
Disclaimer: I realize this may be a really stupid question. I'm unfamiliar with Wimax and what hardware it requires so if the Hero just doesn't have the hardware capabilities then obviously this is a mute point.
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pretty sure they wont be releasing that "code" to the public

richse said:
I just read that Android doesn't naively support Wimax in 2.1 and Sprint put some of their code in to make it work on the EVO. This seems similar to the way HTC used code in 1.5 to make the Hero work before 1.6 came out. Is there any chance we would be able to take that code and have Wimax on the Hero? Please read disclaimer below in case you are about to flame me.
Disclaimer: I realize this may be a really stupid question. I'm unfamiliar with Wimax and what hardware it requires so if the Hero just doesn't have the hardware capabilities then obviously this is a mute point.
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Moot point.

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Moot point.
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and for those who wish to know what he means by this....
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moot_point

code or no code the hero is not capible

Short answer: No
The radio is physically different. Just like GSM/CDMA are physically different.

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Wimax and 4g are just 2 of the reasons we will ALL be buying the EVO the minute it drops
EVERYONE WITH ME?????

MagnusRagnarok said:
Wimax and 4g are just 2 of the reasons we will ALL be buying the EVO the minute it drops
EVERYONE WITH ME?????
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I'm in!
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wait lol wimax and 4g are the same thing lol

When I bought my Hero last October I knew next to nothing about 3g/4g etc... except the fact that 4g was faster and supposedly coming very soon to SLC. The salesman at the sprint store told me that the Hero is 4g capable and would just get an update when 4g was officially available. He also told me that there was already spotty 4g coverage in the SLC area. I know now he didn't know wtf he was talking about and just told me that to sell the phone.

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I'm in!
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wait lol wimax and 4g are the same thing lol
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No they're not. "4G" is a standard term for certain speeds in mobile data networks.
(Technically WiMax is only a theoretical 4G network... in actual practice it's a lot slower than the 4G standard.)

at least he realized it was a dumb question while he was writing it... lol

TechniShawn said:
When I bought my Hero last October I knew next to nothing about 3g/4g etc... except the fact that 4g was faster and supposedly coming very soon to SLC. The salesman at the sprint store told me that the Hero is 4g capable and would just get an update when 4g was officially available. He also told me that there was already spotty 4g coverage in the SLC area. I know now he didn't know wtf he was talking about and just told me that to sell the phone.
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I"m sure that was salesman BS.
The Hero definitely does not have the radio for WiMax.

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Wimax and 4g are just 2 of the reasons we will ALL be buying the EVO the minute it drops
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I'll buy one the minute I see Root.

Is_907 said:
No they're not. "4G" is a standard term for certain speeds in mobile data networks.
(Technically WiMax is only a theoretical 4G network... in actual practice it's a lot slower than the 4G standard.)
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No it's not..
4G is a standard term for the "4th Generation" of Mobile Data Networks..Not the actual speeds..
The speeds are then classified by the competitor, based on their network capabilities...
The speed of the network is defined by WiMax standards... Not by 4G standards..

azyouthinkeyeiz said:
No it's not..
4G is a standard term for the "4th Generation" of Mobile Data Networks..Not the actual speeds..
The speeds are then classified by the competitor, based on their network capabilities...
The speed of the network is defined by WiMax standards... Not by 4G standards..
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True, 4G referes to 4th Generation. However, there are standards bodies (just like IEEE) that set out what minimum speeds are required to be considered 4th gen wired and wireless technologies (1Gbit for wired, 100Mbit for wireless.)

Eh really this does bring up something that will be interesting for me as a dev. I don't think that wimax/4g support is gonna be all in the kernel. For good reason. The modifications HTC made to get cdma to work in android 1.5 were not at all closed source kernel modifications. That is proven by the fact Maejep backported the gsm kernel to cdma and data worked the second he got it booting. The actual modifications HTC made were actually in the system build its self. Through apks that were closed source. Now I get and have gotten a few leak builds that have had wimax support in them. They were all gsm devices granted. But they still had a directory called wimax in the system. Now with that in mind my eclair dev build always had that directory in it and had the proper setup un the ramdisk to initiate wimax and it attempted to do so on every boot. Anyhow it was a given that the hero hardware didn't support wimax I know. But in regards to the Evo it leaves me wondering will we be able to use wimax in aosp builds. Will it be possible to move the wimax diff into aosp builds.
But yeah it just got me thinking

toastcfh said:
...But in regards to the Evo it leaves me wondering will we be able to use wimax in aosp builds. Will it be possible to move the wimax diff into aosp builds.
But yeah it just got me thinking
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Very interesting point. After all, you KNOW that everyone is going to want an AOSP EVO ASAP (darn, I got acronym blowout).

Is_907 said:
that set out what minimum speeds are required to be considered 4th gen wired and wireless technologies (1Gbit for wired, 100Mbit for wireless.)
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And what would those bodies be? Because in my 10 year wireless experience, this would be the first mention I have heard of them...........
The wireless standards are set by what the network capability is.. No ifs or buts.
The 1G,2G,3G,4G references are only for the customer so they know what "level" they are on...
The only standards are set by what the technology can withstand, and are not "set" until after usage and bandwidth tests are run by the network...And they approve of those data ranges...
So again, the "standard" is set by how much data WiMax can move...
WiMax is not theoretical... Clearwire has been using it for the better part of 4 years now.. And the speeds are going to be the same as they always have. They used WiMax for the disaster relief people during Hurricane Katrina.. It is a ten year old technology..

I'm sure there's a different radio in there, but... isn't WiMAX a newer version of 802.11x. Eg. 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, etc.?
There hasn't been any mention of it, but could it possibly be backwards compatible with 802.11n?

mercado79 said:
I'm sure there's a different radio in there, but... isn't WiMAX a newer version of 802.11x. Eg. 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, etc.?
There hasn't been any mention of it, but could it possibly be backwards compatible with 802.11n?
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Kind of...
It is a brand new protocol 802.16, and it does support some limited normal WiFi(802.11), but there is a brand new architecture for connecting IP-based networks, so some sort of scripting would need to be ran to convert back to the 802.11 architecture..
So.....
in short, probably not...

sony > *

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2179..._portable_looks_stunning_plays_ps3_games.html
Crossing my fingers for this to be on sprint.
Has a built in 3g service, and my guess is someone is going to make it work with voip.
Only thing its missing is 4g, but my guess is, it will be built into it once its released (or a new version will come out few months later with 4g).
id dump evo in a heart beat for that.

Last-Chance said:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2179..._portable_looks_stunning_plays_ps3_games.html
Crossing my fingers for this to be on sprint.
Has a built in 3g service, and my guess is someone is going to make it work with voip.
Only thing its missing is 4g, but my guess is, it will be built into it once its released (or a new version will come out few months later with 4g).
id dump evo in a heart beat for that.
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stunning.
however you can't 'build in' 4g after its released unless it has a 4g radio that isn't activated.

It's showed up in verizons inventory screen readers about it on androidcentral
from my phone duh

It would probably use the monthly data plan with verizon, if you want to hopefully.
Otherwise, they better have a model w/o 3g.
This device is awesome btw.

Nrre said:
stunning.
however you can't 'build in' 4g after its released unless it has a 4g radio that isn't activated.
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well i meant like they would build a radio for it before its fully released.

CheesyNutz said:
It's showed up in verizons inventory screen readers about it on androidcentral
from my phone duh
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The Sony Xperia Play aka the "Playstation Phone" showed up on Verizons inventory screen not the NGP. NGP doesent even have an official name. The president of Sony said NGP was a working name for now in an interview I read on Engadget.

oh man.... quad core processor with a quad core graphics processor...

Looks sick.
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Bad news for WIMAX

http://www.pcworld.com/article/219901/sprint_wimax_lte.html#tk.rss_news

Oh well.
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/219901/sprint_wimax_lte.html#tk.rss_news
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Unless you plan on using your EVO for the next 4-5 years , i dont think it really matters. If/when they make this move, there will be plenty of phones to come out that will support the new network. I doubt anyone will still have their EVO's /Epic's by the time this actually comes to reality.

Supposedly the wimax radio could be flashed to support LTE per shinzul and the wimax thread.

this might explain why:
a. the 'featured' echo doesn't have wimax
b. the $10 premium fee for non wimax phones
i think that sprint will discontinue the production of wimax phones and wait for the deployment of lte before they release any new 4g phones. if that turns out to be the case, i don't care if they release a evo with a quad core cpu and 8 gigs of ram. there's no way i'm going to stick around with only sprint's absolutely pathetic 3g.
i also doubt that the evo will be hackable to use lte. what about authentication? lte is supposed to use sims. no way the evo will be able to connect even if some clever hackers get the radio itself to be compatible.

Doesn't bother me too much. Yes, I enjoy the speeds of WiMax, but the battery drain is too much of an issue.

detusueno said:
this might explain why:
a. the 'featured' echo doesn't have wimax
b. the $10 premium fee for non wimax phones
i think that sprint will discontinue the production of wimax phones and wait for the deployment of lte before they release any new 4g phones. if that turns out to be the case, i don't care if they release a evo with a quad core cpu and 8 gigs of ram. there's no way i'm going to stick around with only sprint's absolutely pathetic 3g.
i also doubt that the evo will be hackable to use lte. what about authentication? lte is supposed to use sims. no way the evo will be able to connect even if some clever hackers get the radio itself to be compatible.
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Makes sense, also could explain why we haven't heard about an EVO 2. They could be trying to figure out how to apply a triband radio up in the phone.

detusueno said:
i also doubt that the evo will be hackable to use lte. what about authentication? lte is supposed to use sims. no way the evo will be able to connect even if some clever hackers get the radio itself to be compatible.
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Well obviously it wouldn't be a hackers hack it'd have to be a Sprint flash of some sort. I am not saying its even plausible more of food for thought.

detusueno said:
this might explain why:
a. the 'featured' echo doesn't have wimax
b. the $10 premium fee for non wimax phones
i think that sprint will discontinue the production of wimax phones and wait for the deployment of lte before they release any new 4g phones. if that turns out to be the case, i don't care if they release a evo with a quad core cpu and 8 gigs of ram. there's no way i'm going to stick around with only sprint's absolutely pathetic 3g.
i also doubt that the evo will be hackable to use lte. what about authentication? lte is supposed to use sims. no way the evo will be able to connect even if some clever hackers get the radio itself to be compatible.
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I'm not so sure about that, I've seen some mean hacks here in the community, we have good talent here that work hard (and free) to get the most out of our devices so.....I hope our Devs here will do something to keep the EVO alive as the did with the Vogue.

mikevillarroel said:
I'm not so sure about that, I've seen some mean hacks here in the community, we have good talent here that work hard (and free) to get the most out of our devices so.....I hope our Devs here will do something to keep the EVO alive as the did with the Vogue.
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Not so sure about that. WiMax currently require some form of key/pw authentication with Clear to connect. LTE on Sprint will probably require SIM cards to connect, like Metro PCS does even as CDMA network. I don't see how they (or even Sprint themselves) will get around that issue. It'd probably be as futile as trying to connect with AT&T's/Verizon's LTE network with a hacked WiMax radio.

Ok sprint will have wimax and lte dual so that good thing imaging and evo 2 with rev b for 3g 1xadvance and wimax and lte omg and being coverd with that much technology
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Good I better get my $10.00/mo back

spiicytuna said:
Supposedly the wimax radio could be flashed to support LTE per shinzul and the wimax thread.
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No, the TOWERS can be fairly easily converted. No phone can be unless explicitly designed for that (like Qualcomm GoBi data chips).

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Supposedly the wimax radio could be flashed to support LTE per shinzul and the wimax thread.
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really? that would be awesome if one of the devs can get wimax radio flashed to verizon's LTE

I hope Sprint Goes LTE - The Verizon LTE speeds look awesome

detusueno said:
this might explain why:
a. the 'featured' echo doesn't have wimax
b. the $10 premium fee for non wimax phones
i think that sprint will discontinue the production of wimax phones and wait for the deployment of lte before they release any new 4g phones. if that turns out to be the case, i don't care if they release a evo with a quad core cpu and 8 gigs of ram. there's no way i'm going to stick around with only sprint's absolutely pathetic 3g.
i also doubt that the evo will be hackable to use lte. what about authentication? lte is supposed to use sims. no way the evo will be able to connect even if some clever hackers get the radio itself to be compatible.
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+1
with speeds under 200 kbps there is absolutely no phone in the world that would make me wanna stay with sprint.
Boy,if this is true they will be losing customers like crazy come this summer.

The story was on Engadget the other week. Technically, the Sprint network guy said it was being evaluated for six months...but with no new Wimax phones on tap for the next six months (that we know of), the conclusion will be the same at the end of six months as it is now.
If they are going to make the move, then throw the switch, and have a plan in place to get us off of our EVO's (and them off of their Epics), even if it's three months out, because then that class action thread that's out there may start looking real good and actually get five stars.
Note: If all that's needed is to switch out the baseband cards and run a firmware update, that would mean that Wimax would have to get turned off, because it's the Wimax equipment that's getting the upgrade. So this won't be a side by side Wimax/LTE network. It's either or...right???

i hope not...
LTE will be bad for cost conscience customers.
LTE is carrier's wetdream... consumers nightmare.

Good riddance? Wimax is a joke in my area (metro Atlanta), to this day I can barely connect to Wimax from inside my house and the coverage map "according to Sprint" shows my area lit up with Wimax. I have to stand by my second story window in my house to connect to it and the connection is "poor", Hell its poor when I go outside.
Love the phone itself though.

Dan330 said:
i hope not...
LTE will be bad for cost conscience customers.
LTE is carrier's wetdream... consumers nightmare.
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How so? If it's what I think...network access can be controlled just as easily on a Wimax network as on a LTE network. It's all IP traffic. Verizon just chooses to control it.

Soo.. the Thunderbolt?

can someone please explain to me whats the Hype with the Htc Thunderbolt? isnt it basically a Evo with a bump in Ram and Verizon suppose Lte Network? More or less what we have had with the evo for a while now.?

Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.

It's hyped because verizon is finally getting something to compete with us
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8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
source for spec check: phonearena.com

xfullmetal17 said:
8GB internal storage plus a bit more RAM. Looking at the specs that appears to be it, apart from LTE insetad of WiMAX. Even has the same Snapdragon processor.
Oh, there's template support for emails on the Evo but not the Thunderbolt, but who really uses templates anyway?
Unless Verizon puts a crapload of bloat on it, it might actually perform better than the Evo because of the reduced number of apps no one cares about (Navigation, NFL, NASCAR, etc.)
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I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.

Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt

mattykinsx said:
I believe the snapdragon in the thunderbolt is a bit newer generation than the evo.
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Yeah it is but is the same evo just redesign more like evo 1.5
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phatmanxxl said:
Verizon is enough reason to forget using the thunderbolt
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Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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mattykinsx said:
Pretty much.
The core is a newer generation so its comparable to the Evo shift.
Not worth $200 with two year.
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Anyone who truly believes this, is an ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.

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Anyone who truly believes this, is a ass. The Thunderbolt is better than any Sprint phone that's out, spec wise. EVO's development is the true gem, for now. It's the only reason I still post in here, even though I have other daily drivers. Give credit where credit is due. Sprint will get their just desserts soon, trust me.
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An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.

mattykinsx said:
An ass why?
Will all due respect, the HTC Thunderbolt is the Evo Shift with an LTE radio.
Is that bad?
No.
Is it worth $199.99 with a two-year agreement?
Considering what we KNOW is coming very soon, no.
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Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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jgalan14 said:
Actually it got the new sense as well and 1 gbz snapdragon (not the same as the evo , this is the new version ,which the shift 4G has lower ) and the shift 4G got something between the old sense and the new one but not desire hd sense tho
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Well that only matters if you care about sense, but it's been suggested [and is completely realistic] that the Evo/Evo Shift will be getting the new sense.
As far as the core it's pretty much the same exact one as in the Evo Shift except instead of clocked at 800 mhz it's clocked at 1GHZ.
So, at best, it's an extremely minor spec bump from the Evo Shift.

That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...

xfullmetal17 said:
That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Um... why couldn't an 800mhz core get it too??

xfullmetal17 said:
That extra 200MHz is all that's needed to possibly get a Gingerbread update...
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Well the extra MHz doesn't really give u update as Google said it they never put how much you CPU has to be to run gingerbread 800GHz should be more then enough , it all depends on HTC and Sprint
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People seem to be in denial that the Evo isnt the best phone on the market anymore. And honestly the LTE alone was enough to make me switch. If you want to see the huge differences, look at the benchmark comparisons on youtube between the thunderbolt and the evo. It's not even remotely close.

Thunderbolt has a fatter kickstand and they put a larger speaker behind the kickstand. Pretty neat.
The HTC Thunderbolt (ADR6400 codename "Scorpion or Mecha") will be the first 4G LTE smartphone on Verizon Wireless. It is a CDMA variant of the HTC Desire HD. It was first announced at CES on January 6, 2011. This phone is to be considered the flagship phone for Verizon, going head to head with the HTC EVO.
In addition to 4G service, the Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
You can run gingerbread on your phone clocked down to 250 MHz. Animations will be choppy but it'll run just fine. So all this B.S. about mhz is b.s.

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Thunderbolt will be the first Verizon phone to support simultaneous Voice/Data over 3G without the help of Wi-Fi.
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orly?
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To be fair, simultaneous voice and data over 3G will be possible with Sprint as well. Verizon just happened to drop a phone that will use it first. The chipset wasn't ready when EVO was in production.Inspire 4G and HTC Thunderbolt is of the same cloth, but a minor spec to the EVO Shift, which is a carbon copy of the G2? That's just inviting the flames. Verizon's answer to the EVO was the Droid X, not the TB. People don't understand how long the EVO was being worked on by HTC and Sprint. It was a true flagship. HTC Pyramid is a true flagship, so keep your eyes on it at CTIA.

jgalan14 said:
Why ? Verizon data is faster then Sprint I know the plans are more expensive but you got to recognize their coverage
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You mean that made up patched up coverage map of roaming agreements?
my 3g and 4g speeds are crazy, i normally get between 800k-1.1mbps on 3G and like 7 or 8mbps on 4G. the last major 3G speedtest done rated At&t 1st over 3G (where its available), and Sprint came in at 2nd place. ive NEVER had any signal issues with sprint. And i travel frequently. the truth of the matter is the Sprint vs Verizon battle is never ending, but at the end of the day, it only matters if it works where YOU need it to work at.
Now, I will say that we all know about sprints recent 3G data speed troubles, but im sure they will have it fixed soon. ****ty, but true.
As far as the thunderbolt goes, Im not envious of it at all. The new Snapdragon core + more ram is better, but other than the its just the Evo, with a LTE radio in it. Better than the Evo? yes. Enough to make me switch? No chance

talk and internet at the same time?

So anybody heard about the new evo update allowing them to talk and be on the internet at the same time?

Haven't heard anything about that, have been able to do that if using 4G or WiFi.
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It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.

tgruendler said:
It is a limitation with CDMA technology. You can talk and be on 4G or WIFI but not 3G.
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Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
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jgalan14 said:
Yup , Verizon made it possible on thunderbolt cause it got 2 antennas or something like that
+1 i hope sprint comes out with this kinda phone
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You could probably do that with groove ip and ur Google number, u would just chew up data opposed u minutes, I have only used this over WiFi, but it should work over 3g also
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bring it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol

Mark_Hardware said:
I read a discussion about this once before. Basically they said that due to limitations in cdma tech, it most likely won't happen unless the phone has separate transceiver chips.
That's what they said, not what I'm saying, lol
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I am moderately surprised this hasn't happened yet. Given that we have a wifi chip, an FM receiver, bluetooth, 3G, 4G...some phones have had FM transceivers as well, NFC, etc....
I am not surprised, however, because bandwidth is very limited...we're not talking back-haul, we're talking actual radio wave space....I'm dying to know what breakthrough will come along to alleviate that.
If anyone wonders why your mobile internet sucks it's oversaturation....not of the back-haul line that connects the cells to the backbone but of the very air itself as allocated. There's only so much physical space in them airs. Too may people, not enough frequencies, bands are too narrow, too many things need their own band.

It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.

runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755.
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HAHA no you didn't. It's a limitation with cdma, you CANNOT use 3g and phone at the same time.

runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.

tgruendler said:
I think this is the same guy that came on and said the same thing on the last post that got out of hand.
This is real simple:
CDMA Technology has a limitation that doesn't allow talking and data on the same radio. End of story. No, there isn't a way around it.
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Exactly why WiMaxx 4G was established, to enable that capability.
GSM is only able to achieve this because they have HSPA for the data side if i'm not mistaken.
Sprints already in the works on switching to LTE 4G, I wonder if they can just make it a hybrid WiMaxx/LTE network and have a radio capable of using either...

So when Sprint switches to LTE, will the current 4G phones work still?

There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.

bkrodgers said:
There is a newer version of the CDMA spec that allows it, but Sprint hasn't deployed it. It's unclear if they will, and it's unclear whether existing phones could be upgraded to use it if they did.
For now, it's just like it always has been on all CDMA devices...no 3G data while you're on voice.
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Yeah I heard about this on Verizon side
And about 4G working after LTE deploy most likely unless they upgrade you for a free LTE device or a lawsuit lol
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runcool said:
It isn't a limitation. I used to do this on my Treo 755. Sprint set it up so we can't do this. There are two types of internet packages we can get for our phones and they basically ended the other one. lol.however, not many people knew that. I am getting 2M down and 768up on 3g where I'm at. when my 4g coming? hahaha
But they did it so they could limit what we do.
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No, it is a huge limitation with cdma. Sprint isn't the only one with this limitation.

The tbolt is the only Verizon phone to offer it. It has svdo (?.) Technology. We wont be able to do it with an update.