Sony Ericsson ST18i Urushi, a smaller Version of the Arc? - XPERIA X10 General

Hey guys, I have found some information about a new SE Phone, the ST18i Urushi!
It should be available in September! It has the same hardware as the Arc. Only difference is a 3.2 inch display!
Included are android 2.3.3, an 8mp camera and HD Video recording.
Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_st18i_codenamed_urushi_leaks_again-news-2730.php
What do you think about it?
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good,but nothing interesting nothing different,Its better to buy old or even a new X10 with GB
don't kno why SE took out this phone...its even one of the ugly phones :/

kunalgahlot said:
good,but nothing interesting nothing different,Its better to buy old or even a new X10 with GB
don't kno why SE took out this phone...its even one of the ugly phones :/
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You're right, x10 is much better. I love my one!
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SE's going to target on those mid market segment,when'll the dual-core come out?

i plan to buy it

josephnero said:
i plan to buy it
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I dont think that this is a good idea. I would buy an Arc or wait for better devices with dual or quadcore. I'm sure Sony will produce those too.
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Who knows something about SE's plans about new phones?

it has more RAM

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New video of the ARC, full 11min preview/review

Courtesy of HDBlog http://bitsnacker.com/index.php/201...oming-xperia-arc-gingerbread-handset#item_121
Must say i do like it, seems much faster but after being on my 2nd handset with the x10 and still trying to get it replaced sony's customer service has put me off buying another handset from them, its a shame it does look a nice phone. Not really bothered about the late update nonsense but i'm sure they will improve this after last year
just wondering how much of this new UI on SE apps we will get in the UXP update
go3asy said:
[...]just wondering how much of this new UI on SE apps we will get in the UXP update
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I doubt we will see anything from Arc's UXP on our X10. What's more, Arc may be a nice phone, however the support given by Sony for X10 is just pathetic, that's not how you treat your very first Android product. My next "Green Phone" won't be Sony, that's for sure.
Wish you good luck with Arc guys (for those who will decide to buy it)!
Lauri455 said:
I doubt we will see anything from Arc's UXP on our X10. What's more, Arc may be a nice phone, however the support given by Sony for X10 is just pathetic, that's not how you treat your very first Android product. My next "Green Phone" won't be Sony, that's for sure.
Wish you good luck with Arc guys (for those who will decide to buy it)!
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First thing i would need is to be able to switch the buttons on the arc. Why in the living H-bomb would they put the back button on the opposite side. OMFG why.
Good video anyways, got to see most of the features. if you can call them features
I would want one, but, no front-facing camera in this day and age makes me kinda sad.
Hmmm. I still have a year on contract with Docomo anyway, by then, the PlayStation phone will be out!
They are still a little behind in the hardware side aswell, its basically the same hardware as the x10, most handets this year will be dual core etc desire HD 700mb ram they have just added more to the x10 to bring it up to 512 which tbh should have been in the first place
There's an Arc forum already, so posting something related to that new phone in the proper forum would be better
may do was really about the possible upgrades for us
You can post this in the new Xperia Arc forum.
I think some of the devs will port the Arc rom to the X10, then we'll have the new things.
I just want the picture and music widgets...
Forget the arc's rom I want pure naked froyo. I don't see how anyone can say no to vanilla froyo.
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Im sure the drivers may be able to be used for vanilla 2.3 off the arc for us? maybe
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Im sure the drivers may be able to be used for vanilla 2.3 off the arc for us? maybe
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Unlikely. Don't think SE is just going to give it away. This is SE we're talking about... :s
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Arc vs nexus s

I sent my captivate today for return to Rogers and waiting April 14 for nexus s or 18-21st for arc. But can't decide which one. What you guys think? And why?
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Go for nexus s. As Sony sucks with updates and you will get update first with NS since its a Google phone
Arc for ant +.
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I say Arc cuz I think it looks better an ha better specs plus Sony said they knkow how important and are growing hence gingerbread on arc
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i think arc is better too...
-nexus s is the most bad phone i have ever seen!!
-arc is more beautiful!
-arc has better camera!!(censor is using by sony's professional digital cameras!
and the guy said buy nexus,he is one of those who bought x10 and is upset and disappointed because of it's update!!
Arc kicks ass I believe, getting mine tomorrow.
SE is more serious now about updates I think, and Arc is very well equipped.
Hi - You don't need to worry about SE updating the Arc... it will happen.. I have been "enroled" into a SE UK Elite Testlab and met with the MD of SE UK last week.. they are totally committed to getting this right and fully appreciate how important it is to keep the Android versions upto date for a reasonable length of time.. as well as more minor UI upgrades in between..
Arc any day of the week and twice on Sundays!
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So only thing arc has *its beautiful* and better camera? That's it? Lol
I bet Sony Ericsson did same stuff like before like x10 where you plug 3rd party earbuds with mic and they wont work. So you have to buy their crappy earbuds
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Hi - You don't need to worry about SE updating the Arc... it will happen.. I have been "enroled" into a SE UK Elite Testlab and met with the MD of SE UK last week.. they are totally committed to getting this right and fully appreciate how important it is to keep the Android versions upto date for a reasonable length of time.. as well as more minor UI upgrades in between..
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I would like to add an example to that,
R800i ( Xperia Play ) was released in UK between 31/3 and 1st/4...
three days later, they already made an update on the air to fix a minor bug...
Now if you don't consider that keeping you updated and as a great support then I'm not sure what will be
sofia-captivate said:
So only thing arc has *its beautiful* and better camera? That's it? Lol
I bet Sony Ericsson did same stuff like before like x10 where you plug 3rd party earbuds with mic and they wont work. So you have to buy their crappy earbuds
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I just laugh at you're posts
really... what are you doing here anyway? spamming with your useless comments will do no good
I have used the Nexus S and now have the Arc...
Arc is so much better... Looks stunning too
I have to admit that I always consider getting the Nexus S but they never had it on 850 3G till recently and they have it white too and I was investigating. reason is that Google makes the android and S is a Google phone therefore you get updates on time(supposedly) but then I always find myself going back to SE.
It would be nice if you could review a comparison with two phones little details as I can see the specs on website.
Only thing pisses me off right now @ this moment is that no one carries arc in the US and even if they do, it would be ATT with the crappy service and its not available yet.
NA sucks in terms of getting new technologies on time.
Rogers is getting nexus s on 14th and also arc on 14-21st.
Arc is 549$ with no contract. Promo is 99$ on 3 year agreement after that $399 on 3 year contract WOW
Nimche said:
I have to admit that I always consider getting the Nexus S but they never had it on 850 3G till recently and they have it white too and I was investigating. reason is that Google makes the android and S is a Google phone therefore you get updates on time(supposedly) but then I always find myself going back to SE.
It would be nice if you could review a comparison with two phones little details as I can see the specs on website.
Only thing pisses me off right now @ this moment is that no one carries arc in the US and even if they do, it would be ATT with the crappy service and its not available yet.
NA sucks in terms of getting new technologies on time.
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sofia-captivate said:
Arc is 549$ with no contract.
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Is that price official? I didn't see them actually selling it yet for out of contract?
Yep its official 100% also confirm on phone. Here is also a link http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/04/complete-pricing-revealed-for-the-rogers-xperia-play-and-arc/
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Is that price official? I didn't see them actually selling it yet for out of contract?
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sofia-captivate said:
Yep its official 100% also confirm on phone. Here is also a link http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/04/04/complete-pricing-revealed-for-the-rogers-xperia-play-and-arc/Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
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So with that being said, we should be having some signs of arc on ebay and other re-sellers for UMTS 850 in next couple of weeks.
Between the Arc and the Nexus S...
I say this grudgingly... get the Arc. Samsung Phones have GREAT hardware... but I never liked the galaxy S' build quality.
Between the Arc and the Desire HD? Desire HD ALL THE WAY.
Desire HD has Noise Cancellation + better build quality + SLCD Screen
Maedhros said:
Between the Arc and the Nexus S...
I say this grudgingly... get the Arc. Samsung Phones have GREAT hardware... but I never liked the galaxy S' build quality.
Between the Arc and the Desire HD? Desire HD ALL THE WAY.
Desire HD has Noise Cancellation + better build quality + SLCD Screen
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hmmm, Noise Cancellation is available with Arc, so I'd say Better build quality + SLCD screen
Wow dont even think about Desire HD - its awsome to play around with custom roms and the build quality is good (even dough the plastik covers on the back tend to make a noise every time i grab the phone) BUT
Desire HD
- Camera sucks big time!! No comparison to arc !
- its to heavy ( dont try to hold it over your head while reading in bed)
- screen on DHD is so washed out compared to arc its really like greyish in comparison
On Desire HD there are always about 20% cpu usage due to al the sense modifications
And here we come to the worst part - battery is just bad (and I had every custom rom and kernel that is available on my DHD)
I got trough the day but with nothing left while with the arc even the first day finished with 45% left
Sorry but I had to get that one out couse DHD is really nice for winter time when I was always able to charge it but now in spring when your on the go its just not enough battery.
Go for the arc its even cheaper where I live (germany)
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Atrix vs arc vs nexus s

Looking for new phone but can't decide which one to buy and why which would you guys go for? And why? Please help me out and share you taughts.
Thanks
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The only thing the Arc has of interest to me would be the camera. But apparently people are reporting that it's a bit underwhelming. I was hoping that the Exmor-R sensor would really dazzle consumers but it's not as great as most expected.
Nexus S I wouldn't even consider. Atrix all the way. It'll be nice that the Arc will have a stronger development community than the crappy X10 but it's specs just aren't up to snuff.
Go ATRIX. I've had all 3. Arc is nice but v plastic. Nexus is bit boring, poor camera bit plastic.
Once you've had dual core you wont go back.
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Check gsmarena.com and you can check and compare all 3 devices the pros n cons.
Personally, I like the ATRIX. It still blows away the competition. Plus its DUAL CORE!
Braggin rights!
At CTIA I looked at an Arc for a few minutes, it was nice.
It felt larger and cheaper somehow. Screen was very colorful "Super AMOLEDish"
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I like my Atrix better. I DID like the Galaxy S2 but it's not ready and the Atrix is! - was.
Fountainhead931 said:
At CTIA I looked at an Arc for a few minutes, it was nice.
It felt larger and cheaper somehow. Screen was very colorful "Super AMOLEDish"
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I like my Atrix better. I DID like the Galaxy S2 but it's not ready and the Atrix is! - was.
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I agree...
The best thing about the Arc is its software... super smooth, Gingerbread, lovely widgets...etc.
But it seems everyone says the build feels cheap, which is a real shame.
If you can afford to wait a couple of months, the EVO 3D seems to be the best phone you can get. If you're not so big on 3D, get the HTC Pyramid (Sensation).
If you can't afford to wait: Atrix.
If atrix is good than those 2 phones. Howcome so many people complaining about the atrix?
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On thing that comes to mind with the Arc is "fingerprints".... The CPU is a bit underwelming too, I disagree the UI is fluid, its pretty laggy actually.
If I had the choice of the Xperia Play or Arc, I'd get the X Play.
rockingx10 said:
Looking for new phone but can't decide which one to buy and why which would you guys go for? And why? Please help me out and share you taughts.
Thanks
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i have an x10 just now, but im ready to get my Atrix with Telcel here in Mexico
I know, nobody makes phones sexiest as Sony Ericsson does. Arc is beautiful but is more of the same SE sh!t.
I think I am a SE fan, and actually a moto hater XD but atrix has change everything (sounds like the iphone ad, but its true). I hope Motorola don't let the atrix in the past so quickly but I think as atrix is the first of all new generation smartphones this not gonna happen.
I would be happy with Honecomb XD
Dual core is the shyt.
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se forget x8

i chat with se about x8 and they say no no no
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You are currently in position number 1 in the queue.
You have now been connected to an agent.
Emma: Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson UK Chat Support. My name is Emma, how can I help you today?
monu09: hello what new for x8
Emma: Meaning what?
monu09: like update or dual touch
Emma: No
monu09: why u forget x8
Emma: The X8 will remain on 2.1
monu09: any flash\led light accessories for x8?
Emma: NO
monu09: any thing new for x8
Emma: No
monu09: plse stop making x8 phone or update
Emma: OK
monu09: why we baste our money no dual touch no flash player no app2sd
Emma: Thank you for using the Sony Ericsson Chat Support. Have a nice day!
Your session has ended. You may now close this window
of course sir.
Yep i do that everyday i bore them i ask useless questions about x8
next time ask them about gingerdx
and learn english for gods sake.
absolutely agree with the title, coz (i think) SE only care with arm7, just like X10 that already have their GB.
Now this is a kick in the nuts to our stock X8s...
http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/06/vodafone-smart-review/
i think SE made X8 in as medium smartphone with low price
to give our chance trying Android OS
so ... this why i'm pay X8
after we know what is android, we love it
then we ask for more
just forget SE..
we have doixanh
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just forget SE..
we have doixanh
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And thank God on that, else I'd prolly go insane...
come on xperia x8 user. rise up...and wake up. there will be no update for x8. even do you can install custom roms. but, it wouldn't do no good. cannot run with the current specs. i follow x8 for too long now and i already trade my x8 with samsung galaxy mini. its really worth it. yes, i admit the UI and phone is not that good, but the Android is too good to be true. imagine a low cost phone can run android 2.3.4 and have 284mb of RAM. trust me you wouldn't regret when you buy this phone.
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and learn english for gods sake.
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haha, no wonder that chat came out that way.
gothickah0 said:
come on xperia x8 user. rise up...and wake up. there will be no update for x8. even do you can install custom roms. but, it wouldn't do no good. cannot run with the current specs. i follow x8 for too long now and i already trade my x8 with samsung galaxy mini. its really worth it. yes, i admit the UI and phone is not that good, but the Android is too good to be true. imagine a low cost phone can run android 2.3.4 and have 284mb of RAM. trust me you wouldn't regret when you buy this phone.
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Oh yeah, we "wouldn't regret" buying a phone that's like the x8 with more ram (and slightly more internal storage), but a smaller and crappier (256K) screen. Come on...
I know that sony won't update the X8. It's no use doing that to them, because they want to sell newer phones, but I would never go to a smaller screen.
We dont need se updates , we have doixnah, racht and lot of other great devs and community which making x8 better
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come on xperia x8 user. rise up...and wake up. there will be no update for x8. even do you can install custom roms. but, it wouldn't do no good. cannot run with the current specs. i follow x8 for too long now and i already trade my x8 with samsung galaxy mini. its really worth it. yes, i admit the UI and phone is not that good, but the Android is too good to be true. imagine a low cost phone can run android 2.3.4 and have 284mb of RAM. trust me you wouldn't regret when you buy this phone.
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Just by looking at the screen of galaxy mini you can say x8 is far better. Besides we have fully working CM6 (2.2) and CM7(2.3) ROMs that WORK quiet nicely on x8 hardware.
miams said:
i think SE made X8 in as medium smartphone with low price
to give our chance trying Android OS
so ... this why i'm pay X8
after we know what is android, we love it
then we ask for more
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what about optimus one ? ... the price is around the price of X8 and LG will update from froyo to gingerbread , plus have 512 mb of memory , i don't buy the Optimus one because is sold out in the store when i buy my x8. but since i know XDA and people like Doixanh i don't regret of it, i am happy with my x8 right now ... and i hope that in a future will come more improvements to our phones
( spanish is my mother language and my english maybe sound like weird LOL)
I loved my X8 when I first discover how to root. Before.. its boring.
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who cares?
se forgot us
well even if they didnt they could not deliver what our devs are doing
and they are already loosing loads of money and making no profit
their xperia play was a epic flop
and xperia neo never came really into the markets
its just the arc which is a bit too pricy compared to the fab htc sensation and samsung galaxy s2
and till the next set of phones arrive it will be january
Could not agree more.
Only if Gingerbread DX perfected with fully support for flash lite at least,
then I'll keep my x8 for 1 year more. Go to H3LL S.E!!

Xperia Arc S or HTC Sensation XL ?

Hey guys!
I'm planning to buy a new phone in 2 weeks ..
I'm confused between these two .. Xperia Arc S and Sensation XL ..
Any recommendations or guidance from the users of these phones
What i like about the XL :
Massive 4.7" screen
Easier to touch-type
Beats audio
What i like about the Arc S :
Sharper screen (233 ppi) despite the small size (4.3"), comparing to the XL's 4.7" and (199 ppi)
The cool looks !
The upcoming official ICS will look great on the that phone
Both processors are fast .. 1.4 and 1.5
Taking into account that I lOVE the new ICS look and i'd love to have it on my next phone .. While i can only have it on the Arc S because of CM support .. And i don't know how to get that look on the Sensation XL because of the lack of suport and the too little ROMs availablity
By what you said, get Arc S, or wait a little more for Xperia S. Both will get ICS until june. Arc S is going to get stable CM9 soon, and I'm sure there will be some guys from FreeXperiaTeam (who work with CM in 2011 Xperia devices) working ASAP on Xperia S.
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You ask that question in an Xperia Arc forum? Are you dumb or something?
i had just pick up an arc a month ago..i just take it primarily because of it good looks other than that sony promise of official ice cream samndwish and a remote chance that the arc get Playstation store outside of japan..
but i don't see if both arc and sensation gonna be relevent by the 3rq quarters of this year.as i change phone every year, the arc fits the time frame..but if u wanna kept your phone lots longer, get a dual core
I'd say Arc S
Has a micro sd slot which the XL doesn't have.
If the XL had dualcore I'd go with that but it hasn't and 100Mhz are no difference.
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+1 to arcS... HTC is too expancive... What are you paying for? Half of inch? Wright question is arcS or Sensation XE... Dual core, great display, Beats Audio... And looks great to. I would prefer SE because I am a BIG fan of it... And you can go to the store, take both of them in yor hands and decide...
Seems like the Arc S is a winner for me. The charisma and charm of this phone is irresistible. However, I'm considering the upcoming Xperia S too .. Just Hoping it won't be too expensive
this HTC comes with a internal 16G memory and 768 MB ram - these are more critical factors for performance. correct me if i am wrong?
Ok, RAM is a big plus.
But for me the 16GB non-expandable memory (?) are too less, so no-go. I have ~23GB on my phone.
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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Arc S - easy choice for me.. the Sensation XL is a big ugly brick!.. or if you want to wait till end of March - Xperia S - I'd wait!
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That's exactly what I'm planning for
Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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sahibunlimited said:
Go for galaxy s2
Its the best!(till now)
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Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
tomo100brt said:
Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
tomo100brt said:
Yes, till now. But after Sony XPERIA S comes out... I don't think so!
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Yes until the gs3 comes out then once again samsung goes back on top
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iridaki said:
I read somewhere, and it has been an "aaaaah yeah..." moment for me,
that we shouldn't compare SE phones with Samsung and HTC phones.
They are not at all about the hardware or the Android version.
They fill in the gap between the people who are hardcore users and spec enthusiasts and those who have no idea about smartphones.
They are targetting people who are OK with having a really beautiful phone, advanced camera function and good hardware, not necessarily top-of-the-top.
And even though XDA forums are normally not a place for such people, you can't deny the very existense of such target group.
Seeing it like this, you can understand why they haven't joined the hardware race that Samsung and HTC are running atm.
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Thumbs up, dude
I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
everb00b said:
I'd wait for the new line. but if you're in haste i'd take Arc S or Galaxy Note depending on the price ofcourse.
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I was tempted by Note because of it's size and power etc. as I could eventually get one for free,
but this device is NOT impressive.
The screen - again - looks like oversaturated **** and the UI is actually disgusting.
I quit after 5 minutes of playing with it.
BTW the performance when just fiddling with it was actually mediocre.
Xperia S is worth wait, as far I have seen after AOSP Sony has one of the best UI and they aren't in the race for great hardware spec like other which just made Dual core devices without software support for it. Sony waited to release dual core when it's necessary i.e. As far as I know ICS is optimized for Dual core. So when they started rolling out ICS update they started to make dual core devices. But if you looking to brag about the spec then sure go for SGS 3 that might out
My 2 cents

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