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chrushed shift!

Hi All
Well something very bad just happened to my shift! In short it fell out a car door and got run over (Not the recommended way to compress files!!)(Sorry about the poor humour!)
Any way the LCD is smashed and it won’t load in to windows the hard drive wont work.
It does appear that win mob still works so I’m hoping to maybe get some data back some how
My question, does the vga port work in win mob yet?
any one got any thorts on how to recover the files on wm side?
( I know it its just about hopless but I thort i would try )

Scott's Shift said:
Hi All
Well something very bad just happened to my shift! In short it fell out a car door and got run over (Not the recommended way to compress files!!)(Sorry about the poor humour!)
Any way the LCD is smashed and it won’t load in to windows the hard drive wont work.
It does appear that win mob still works so I’m hoping to maybe get some data back some how
My question, does the vga port work in win mob yet?
any one got any thorts on how to recover the files on wm side?
( I know it its just about hopless but I thort i would try )
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ouch that hurts... the best thing to do is to open the shift and take the HDD .. then use an adaptater to use it as external drive.
the VGA is no working and I guess it will never work from winmob... sorry

Since you want data from the WM side, but can't boot Vista as the hard drive does not work.... I would try to boot windows from an USB stick :
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-pocket,1113.html
or see google
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=windows+on+usb
get external screen working on Windows Side (Via VGA), boot WM and hope USB tools will auto run and connect, copy files.

printing prombles

hi. i have connect my blackstone with a usb to the printer but is not working. what i have to do?

to connect to usb devices require 2
things
1. the pda have to support usbHost pretty sure that blackstone don't
2. all the correct windows mobile drivers for the printer very very few printer makers make windows mobile drivers at all

Ok, not what you've asked for but there are some solutions for printing from Windows Mobile devices, mostly these are not free, and as having no need to print I have not tested these:
Westtek Jetprint $9.95
http://www.westtek.com/pocketpc/jetcet/
Bachmann Software Printboy $49.99
http://www.bachmannsoftware.com/pbce.htm
PrintPocketCE $39.95 ("Prints in Color" lol)
http://www.fieldsoftware.com/PrintPocketCE.htm
Cortado Print & Fax (Ca$h per month I think)
http://www.cortado.com/euen/OnlineServices/PremiumServices/forWindowsMobile.aspx
HP mobile printing for pocket pc
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesId=242184&prodNameId=235049&swEnvOID=2008&swLang=8&mode=3&taskId=135&swLang=8&swItem=ja-36647-1 but they have stopped letting people download, so I found a mirror here: http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Printing/HP-Mobile-Printing-8678.shtml OK just tried this one and while it did work on my Dell Axim x30 (about 4 years ago) it doesn't work on my TD2, installs but bring up an error.
Most of these seem to have been designed for versions of WM prior to WM5, so actually I think that means PPC2003 !?!
Also keep an eye out for these guys, http://printershare.com/mobile.sdf they have iphone & Android versions (bit of a bandwagon jumping on there I think!), would assume WM version wouldn't be too far behind?

I thought our Touch HD comes with "Jetcet Print 5"
With that software you can print via WiFi or bluetooth.
What you need is a pure network printer or a PC which shares the printer you want to use.
Works like a charm on my Touch HD
greetz
playdo

playdo said:
I thought our Touch HD comes with "Jetcet Print 5"
With that software you can print via WiFi or bluetooth.
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I thought it doesn't support wifi..

thanks guys

Some questions about the Shift

Hi all, i'm new to the shift scene and have a couple of questions:
1. I gather that the WM part of the device is an emulator running on Vista. Is there anyway to turn Vista off so its just WM that is running. (I guess not as the Shift has no WM capable hardware.)
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
3. Has anyone got TF3D running on it?
4. Comming from the Xperia X1 forum, there are loads of ROMs for the X1. Are there any WM6.1 ROMs out there for the Shift?.
5. Can you use a bluetooth headset with this device
6. How much does XP speed up the device? How much does Win7 slow down the device? Can you have XP or Win7 running WM?
7. Can you run TomTom on the WM side?
Many Thanks

vinokirk said:
1. I gather that the WM part of the device is an emulator running on Vista. Is there anyway to turn Vista off so its just WM that is running. (I guess not as the Shift has no WM capable hardware.)
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1. You couldn't be more wrong. The WM side is actually a real smartphone built in to the shift mother board with it's own processor and all. WM is always on as long as there is power.
vinokirk said:
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
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2. Yes it can even do that out of the box with no hacking.
vinokirk said:
3. Has anyone got TF3D running on it?
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3. TF3D is to demanding on the WM hardware built in to the shift so a no can do there. You will have to be happy with point ui at best.
vinokirk said:
4. Comming from the Xperia X1 forum, there are loads of ROMs for the X1. Are there any WM6.1 ROMs out there for the Shift?.
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4. Yup just browse the forum.
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5. Can you use a bluetooth headset with this device
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5. No, since bt is attached to the computer part and not the phone there is no bt on wm. You cannot use wired head set even. Actually the only way to make calls is using speaker phone. You have to remember it's a computer with wm, not a phone with vista.
vinokirk said:
6. How much does XP speed up the device? How much does Win7 slow down the device? Can you have XP or Win7 running WM?
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6. Errh, The q is how well does xp work and how much better will it work with W7 then vista, remember W7 is lighter then Visa and works better on portables then Xp.
vinokirk said:
7. Can you run TomTom on the WM side?
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7. Possible in theory impossible practically, we do not have the space avalible on the WM for maps. We cannot use SD since it's attched to the computer not the phone. It is possible to use the computer hdd but it requieres the computer part to be running and that will drain the battery.
The shift is NOT a phone, it's a special device in its own category. One should us it as a additional device not as a phone replacement.

use google maps
you can use google maps instead of tomtom.

Gmaps is another type of app. I's map app, tomtom is a navigator.
Yes you can browse maps on the shift, but no navigation.

Josasp, many thanks for your answers!
Just comming back to a couple of your answers...
Josasp said:
1. You couldn't be more wrong. The WM side is actually a real smartphone built in to the shift mother board with it's own processor and all. WM is always on as long as there is power.
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Im sure I saw in a video a guy was saying how the WM part is an emulation on windows. So you can have the Win XP part totally off and just have the phone on?
Josasp said:
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
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Can you make it clear that you mean you can send sms from the Vista side?
Josasp said:
7. Possible in theory impossible practically, we do not have the space avalible on the WM for maps. We cannot use SD since it's attched to the computer not the phone. It is possible to use the computer hdd but it requieres the computer part to be running and that will drain the battery.
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How much space is there on the WM side. You say we can use the WinXP hdd, so does that mean that the WM side can access the WinXP HDD? I would like to use TT navigator in my car, so there would be no probs with power. So people on here have got the GPS unit working then?
Last question, is it 3G? I will have a look myself now for this answer tho, I only just thought of it
ANSWER: Yes it does support 3G
This really is an intriguing device! If only you could make proper calls on it without it being on speakerphone!

Ofc you can SMS you have full wm fuctionality, the speakerphone issue is just that the shift is missing a earpice and access to headset, so it leaves the speakerphone the only option.
I'ts not only 3G it is also HSDPA wich is fater then regular 3G, but notice that there is a CDMA version avalible to that is NOT 3G.
Well the WM part is linked to the computer(vista) in two ways, the first is some sort of internal usb connection that we can turn on and off using "usb tool".
The other way is that the WM and Vista is linked i an internal local network (LAN) that allows vista to connect to the internet using WM as a router an modem, much like a regular home lan.
The fact that they are linked via lan allows for us to use shared folders between the devices in the device, i't works in the same way you share folders over a home network.
Using this shared folders feature we can use the Vista hdd but ONLY when the computer part is on. So there is no direct connection betweed the vista hdd and WM only the virtual share.
I't works but it drains battery and it's slightly buggy, it's not really a great solution.
What would be way better in your case is sharing the GPS module over the internal usb to vista. That is a lot less data and is way more stable.
There is some good navigation software for regular computers too, garmin has a software similar to thier WM software.
A solotion like that looks a lot more stable if you ask me.

Couple more questions:
1)So the GPS module is 'natively' attached to the WM side but you can access it from the WinXP side?
2)Can you confirm if you can send texts from the WinXP side, what program do you use to do it?
3)Can you confirm if you can have the WinXP side totally off and just run the WM side?
4)There are some people on ebay sellling wired headsets for the shift, but you say they dont work...i dont understand! are these seller lying???
5)When the screen is flipped up and your on the WM side, does it go into landspace view?
6)Can you use the hardware keyboard on the WM side?
7)Can you use the trackpad on the WM side?

1. Yes with custom rom like almost everything.
2. Text is sent from WM side perfectly no need for sending from visa/xp/whatever.
3. Well WM is always on as long as the battery is in, vista/xp you turn on/off with a switch.
4. They work only on the pc/vista/xp side for msn/skype/other not in the WM side.
5. The WM side is always in landcape, it is possible to rotate manually in the WM side if you want portrait but no auto switching.
6. Yes, it works very well.
7. Nope it's connected to the PC.
You have to think of the shift as two devices regardless of the fact that they do not appear so. Think of the shift as a laptop connected to phone with usb and lan. When you press the snapvue button the keyboard and the screen will switch between these devices, so it appears that they are the same device.
What does this mean?
Well it means that some things we will never get since they are only connected to pc, like true hdd access or touchpad access.
Some thing we however manage to get working in one of two ways, the first is by using some secret way that htc built in the device but decided not no use like the phone, the other way is by using some sort of software for wm or the pc to send stuff over the lan or usb between the wm and the pc, like sharing GPS or the hdd.
But using some software share requieres both sides to be on and that will drain battery, and attery is the main reason we want to use the wm side instead of the pc. If the pc would last as long as the wm we would not use the wm at all. So having the pc on in order to do some stuff in the wm sort of defeats the purpose of using the wm.

The mouse pad is for the PC side, but if you have the PC side running and connected to the WM side via the program USBTool, then it is possible to control WM with the mouse pad/mouse with a program that has been mentioned in these forums before. I have forgotten its name

Ahh nice one Flanimal
What about the reception on the Shift. Comming from the x1 which has notoriously bad reception!

Ahh nice one Flanimal
What about the reception on the Shift. Comming from the x1 which has notoriously bad reception!

Flanimal said:
The mouse pad is for the PC side, but if you have the PC side running and connected to the WM side via the program USBTool, then it is possible to control WM with the mouse pad/mouse with a program that has been mentioned in these forums before. I have forgotten its name
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I have remembered the name of this application that allows you to use the mouse and mouse pad in WM whilstVista/XP side is on. It's called trueconnect. It works very well.

Loading WM6.5 (or other) onto old GPS? (running Windows CE)

Hey folks, so I have a random curiosity question. I am a bit of a noob, although I have rooted my HTC dream and installed roms, updated my HP iPaq to a newer Rom etc.... so I understand a good chunk of what to do.
My project/question? I have an old "bricked" (I guess, it gives an error upon loading) Brada brand (some house brand from the Brick here in Canada) GPS unit.
It has a large touch screen and I thought it would be fun to have a windows system on it, or even convert it to an external LCD for my DSLR for video shooting (bigger screen for live view).
My question is, how would I go about reflashing it/installing a new rom on it? Just a basic windows mobile system that would allow the use of the AV in signal, and maybe some windows mobile media player or whatnot.
What I know about it off the top of my head: It runs windows CE 4.2 I believe, has an internal CF card, and windows mobile center recognizes it on Vista (I can access files and transfer files).
I don't know what info you would need to help me out, but please ask and I will answer!
I guess its sort of a dumb idea...I'd be better off buying a new tablet and hooking that up with a new cable.....but then again, I have this lying around and wouldn't want to waste it, since it DOES have a good screen!
If its a stupid plan and not worth my effort, PLEASE STOP ME NOW. If I am going to be wasting my time, I'd rather just save up some money and buy some knock off tablet to use as an external screen, or even buy a REAL tablet for live shooting.
This is just for fun to see if I can put a new ROM on it!

ALMOST Ready to sell my Shift .. maybe ...

PLEASE DON'T THINK OF THIS AS A FOR SALE AD .. It is not .. Too many things I need to re-discover before listing.
I am in the final stages of getting ready to sell my HTC Shift. Maybe. I don't even know what to ask. It is at my office so I don't remember ALL the details. PLUS I see that people are installing Windows 8 on theirs and MAYBE I might want to try that before selling mine. I have the Windows 8 from the Developers convention Samsung Tablet and I like it .. Like it a lot !!
I guess I have come here to ask what a fair price would be for mine and should I try to install the Windows 8?? Or is that still very touch and go with the drivers etc.
It has Full windows mobile w/ the added telephone capability. Another worry. If I reformat or upgrade will I lose the telephone? I use T-Mobile and my connection is Edge. I don't know what you get with an AT&T sim card.
It is the model with the permanent case that screws on. I have taken it off because I also have the Mugen Extended Battery and the case didn't fit well with that battery on .. I still have the original battery and the screw on case as well. I don't know how long either battery is holding a charge. I don't think the life is very bad.
The Shift has also had the drive upgraded. I am thinking it is maybe 100 gigs. But I could be wrong .. something else to check.
I have upgraded the O/S to Vista or maybe Windows 7 ...See .. I can't even say for sure what operating system is installed. I haven't turned it on in months.
I am thinking that when I reformat I will MAYBE lose all the drivers etc so I may as well try installing Windows 8 .. or not . ... Maybe if and when someone buys it they will want it the way it is and they can reformat or whatever ..
Any comments on the pros or cons of Windows 8?? I am really lost .. I just know I have too many computers and too many gadgets and some of them need to go away !! Mostly I don't want my data left on the computer but I don't want the hassle of refomatting and then trying to install drivers etc. I can hardly find time to gather the necessary info and list it ..
Diane

What is wrong with you!!!!
Dear Buddy, The HTC X9500 Shift is a umpc or/and tablet!!! (Ultimate Mobile Personal Computer)This Device rocks!!!! step 1: did you custom the wm side. Step 2: did you split the partition for windows xp and windows 7 ultimate??? did you upgrade the rams to 2gb ram???
did you upgrade the hdd to at least 100gb if you did this all you shift is on fire!!!!!! speed on the internet is good!!! wifi is strong,bluetooth is strong! touch screen with a pen or fingers is good!!! allow's to a plasma or lcd monitor is good!!!! (VGA Connectors)
So what else you asking for a sam**** tablet.
Plus do you know the the ubuntu works excellent with the HTC X9500 shift???? hmmmm....

>> did you custom the wm side.
YES .. It is FULL Windows Mobile and Phone.
>> did you split the partition for windows xp and windows 7 ultimate???
NO .. Just upgraded XP to either Vista or 7 .. don't remember which
>> did you upgrade the rams to 2gb ram???
No .. Don't remember if the ram has been upgraded. I didn't work on it myself most of the time a friend did.
>> did you upgrade the hdd to at least 100gb
YES ...
>> touch screen with a pen or fingers is good!!!
Samsung Tablet (Slate) works with finger or Wacom stylus
>> Plus do you know the the ubuntu works excellent with the HTC X9500 shift???? hmmmm....
What's an ubuntu ???

Will I guess you are a average computer geek....
because Ubuntu is a linux O.S that is much more secured then windows.. Plus it is much faster then windows... Plus again, Ubuntu is the maker of android, who created it for a free open source!!!!

Just stumbled on this thread as I found my Shift at the back of a cupboard a few days ago and was wondering what it was worth. I've flashed the WM side but the other side is still Vista (ugh).
More toys to play with. Hoorah!

I want a Shift so much.... Any ideas on sales? (Mods dont kill me)

1saleaday has it for 199.99 today only...

The Shift Continues to impress me.
I re ghosted a fresh Windows 7 installation to get better performance out of it.
I just installed Ubunuti Wubi and linked it to my smartphone bluetooth modem for wireless internet.
And the WM side gives me an instant notepad with a decent keyboard.
Combined with a smartphone, it's a winner all round.