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Sooo... What's next after the Epic?

I've seen a lot of talk about new phones but is there a successor to the Samsung Epic?
I talked my wife into buying the Epic as well and we love them but we always keep our eyes on that 2 year mark (which is coming up this Summer)... wondering if we are going to stay in place with the Epics or save for something else.
We are particularly fond of the physical keyboard... don't want to jump to a phone without one.
Love reading all the great threads on here... keep up the great info.
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The EVO 3D seems to have caught the Epic community's eye. The Epic can do nearly everything that the new EVO can, except the Evo has a better CPU (dual core), TV out (hdmi), and it's 3D option.

No top tier phones with keyboards have been announced yet by Sprint. Samsung has created the "Galaxy S II" which could be used to produce an Epic 2 but that is between Samsung & Sprint to decide.
I believe Sprint is releasing a windows phone 7 HTC device with keyboard, but I'm not interested in wp7.
How are you hitting the 2-year mark when the Epic was released last summer?

Dual 1.2ghz processors
1GB DDR2 ram
NFC
8mp camera
2mp FFC
1080p recording & playback
4.3" display
SAMoled + technology
hdmi out
removable memory
Gingerbread 2.4
replaceable 1750mah battery
Thinest cellphone ever made
yeah.... I'm waiting on the Galaxy S2 myself.

9kracing said:
Dual 1.2ghz processors
1GB DDR2 ram
NFC
8mp camera
2mp FFC
1080p recording & playback
4.3" display
SAMoled + technology
hdmi out
removable memory
Gingerbread 2.4
Ice Cream 3.1
replaceable 1750mah battery
Thinest cellphone ever made
yeah.... I'm waiting on the Galaxy S2 myself.
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FTFY
Wait...this is Samsung, God forbid they put out an up to date phone.
I know it hasn't been released yet. But I/O is here in what 4 days?
I theorize 3.1 because it will be a merge of the Tablet and Phone branches of Android, and I doubt they would down grade the version number of the tablets. so the number would have to be >=3.1

Yeah the 4.3" screen may be a problem for those looking for an Epic 2. I think it would be absolutely huge. I personally am going for a non-kb device next. After all, the KB on the epic was pretty useless with all the skipped characters which forced me to become comfortable with swype.
I'd be all over the Evo 3D if it had an amoled display. Any phone w/o amoled will need to have very strong contrast levels with very low black's otherwise it will annoy the heck out of my to pay for a phone upgrade with a lesser quality screen.
I figure I'll be on the Epic until November 2012 since they removed the 1 year upgrade from my plan. At that point I may just keep it and flash over to Boost mobile for the uber cheap monthly rates.

I bought my Epic outright... used... I jumped into Sprint service with a blackberry curve... bought an EVO and Epic cash/used... but in excellent shape.

I've got another year before I start to look,everything else will be "obsolete"
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Gotta have the keyboard for me otherwise it isn't a smartphone to me. I have tried and tried swype but for those messages more than 2 or 3 words I can not stand it.

I'd rather have super thin with no keyboard than slightly fat and a mostly working keyboard
And I would like to have latest version of touch wiz
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digiblur said:
Gotta have the keyboard for me otherwise it isn't a smartphone to me. I have tried and tried swype but for those messages more than 2 or 3 words I can not stand it.
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Have you tried voice-to-text? Why type when you can talk....

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Have you tried voice-to-text? Why type when you can talk....
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Voice-to-text is fine if you're not in a meeting or something...
"this guy is so boring, I hope he stops droning on and on soon... oh, crap, he can hear me"

I was looking at the evo3d but i am going to wait till the phone is launched first only because i think the phone is going to be locked down alot and i think root will take some time. I will probably be looking at the gsII. I want my amoled screen and 4.3 is an awesome screen size for me. Plus sammy has done pretty good about not locking phones down so far.

I've got till early Fall of next year before I start looking at amazing phones again (just think what they'll have then...lol)
BUT, if I were looking for a new phone, the EVO 3D is definitely the way to go.

In the evo forums over at android forums an HTC insider says the evo 3d will ship with no bootloader lock, they wanna make it dev friendly
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According to my local corp store, if i replace my phone 2 more times (already done 3 exchanges) then i will be able to switch to different device which if i have to exchange this epic 2 more times i am jumping ship to htc and if evo 3d is out then i am going to it.
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Oh man I hope you are right. If so I'm getting it then. Thanks for the information bro
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In the evo forums over at android forums an HTC insider says the evo 3d will ship with no bootloader lock, they wanna make it dev friendly
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Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

Even I am waiting for the Galaxy 2. It's gonna rock!

I'm going to be in heaven if we get Gingerbread or even 2.4 Ice Cream on another version of the Epic 4G with a keyboard and that dual-core 1.2mhz processor, S-AMOLED + display...AND I'm hoping sprint will keep the keyboard on their version...cuase idk where id be for all the long ass E-mails and text messages without some physical buttons to press....and ohh my what the developers would do once they get their hands on that 1.2 dual core...maybe wishfull thinking but can anybody else say 2.0Ghz Overclock....I've already seen the EVO SHIFT 4G OC'D to 1.8 (which I'm thinking about jumping ship towards to be honest if we don't get something new)...I think that would be a realistic expectation.
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The Evo 3D sounds cool, and the 3D option is interesting. If anyone has see the Ninteno 3DS, I assume it is similar to the technology the evo will have. The 3DS is cool but if that's what the evo screen looks like in 3D, HTC has some work to do.
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Upgrade to Evo 3D or Wait?

Should i upgrade to evo 3d or wait tll 2012 for something better.
Ok so my upgrade isnt availible until 2012, but i was thinking about getting the evo 3d, but then again, next year theres probably gonna be a device with tegra 3 quad core, qhd,1gb ram,4.5" screen, sense 3.5. so im stuck between evo 3d or evo 4(or some other name).

There will always be a new device. After tegra 3 it will be something else. I am waiting on my upgrade for a little bit.
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It's really a question only you can answer. If the Evo 3D represents enough of an upgrade to you to warrant paying full price, and if you have the means to do so, you should do it. If not, you shouldn't.
Since we haven't seen the Evo 3D yet and don't yet know just how much better it really is than what we have, that makes the question premature as well. My hunch is it will be quite significantly better. I could certainly see myself choosing to pay full price to get either the Evo 3D or another dual core phone this year, but I'll want to see the reviews, see them firsthand, etc. But like I said, that's my feeling. Only you can answer what you should do.

I can totally see upgrading to the 3rd evo Nothing wrong with this phone but I would like a little less lay for when I play on it.
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bkrodgers said:
It's really a question only you can answer. If the Evo 3D represents enough of an upgrade to you to warrant paying full price, and if you have the means to do so, you should do it. If not, you shouldn't.
Since we haven't seen the Evo 3D yet and don't yet know just how much better it really is than what we have, that makes the question premature as well. My hunch is it will be quite significantly better. I could certainly see myself choosing to pay full price to get either the Evo 3D or another dual core phone this year, but I'll want to see the reviews, see them firsthand, etc. But like I said, that's my feeling. Only you can answer what you should do.
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thank you, i think ill stick with my evo for awhile. Ill wait to see what 2012 brings me.

Id go for it, but its all riding on the bootloader right now.

Just wait it out for the bootloader. Plus at the rate of tech these days, 2012 we'll have the Evo 4D with 6G Wimax lol
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I want to upgrade to the Evo 3d, but probably won't have the money so ill probably wait for the next big phone when my upgrade comes.

I would wait. Nvidia is showcasing the tegra quad core and is supposed to have devices launching with it either near end of this year or beginning of next. So yeah i would wait cuz i believe after quad core comes out for phones hardware advances will stall or plateau. Then it will be all about the software and not what phone has what hardware
Edit: just looked at the initial benchmarks and the tegra quad core blows away the competition easily and even some LAPTOPS. Its not even final and still being worked on this is gonna be a beast

No point in waiting unless it takes until the end of summer to see the 3D.
New technology always comes out.
If you're gonna wait on that merit you might as well never buy.
You can always sell the damned thing if you find something else you want.

mattykinsx said:
No point in waiting unless it takes until the end of summer to see the 3D.
New technology always comes out.
If you're gonna wait on that merit you might as well never buy.
You can always sell the damned thing if you find something else you want.
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^ This
Haven't you seen the Best Buy buy back commercial, "I just bought this one".
Keep waiting and you'll keep waiting.
Swyped from my HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G

Ill definitely be skipping this round, as of right now I have no real need for 3D seeing as I dont even have a 3D tv to output content too. Also with the Kal-El processor chip set to launch q4 there really wont be a long wait till you find it packed in the next round of phones.

I pre-ordered the 3D, I can honestly care less about the 3D portion as I'll never enable it. Being able to upgrade less than a year after I signed my contract is why I will go ahead and upgrade to the 3D.
Getting bored with the EVO 4G right now, always wanting something new, so the 3D will hold me over until their next good phone comes out and I'll upgrade again.

If waiting for an upgrade is an issue I suggest reading the 1st post of this thread. It has worked for a ton of people including me.

Was going to upgrade until I heard about the nexus 3
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pelebkf said:
Was going to upgrade until I heard about the nexus 3
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What did you hear?

m4rk0358 said:
What did you hear?
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The same thing everyone else has, nothing. lol Just specualtion that is all over the board.

swaze said:
The same thing everyone else has, nothing. lol Just specualtion that is all over the board.
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Yea it is speculation. But enough to keep me from the evo3d. Of course I am a aosp fan but the nexus s I think is not up to par with the evo 4g. I like the no buttons part of the nexus 3
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pelebkf said:
Yea it is speculation. But enough to keep me from the evo3d. Of course I am a aosp fan but the nexus s I think is not up to par with the evo 4g. I like the no buttons part of the nexus 3
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That's what I'm saying, waiting and you'll keep waiting. I'll have the 3D and turn around and then get the N3 too, lol. Love being gold.
Swyped from my HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G

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That's what I'm saying, waiting and you'll keep waiting. I'll have the 3D and turn around and then get the N3 too, lol. Love being gold.
Swyped from my HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
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Without extending your contract?
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sprint phasing out the EVO 4g!

read this: http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-saying-sayonara-several-android-smartphones
my stomach dropped when i read it, ss i have just bought my evo in june.

Sounds about right to me. It's been just over a year. That is about the current life cycle of most smart phones.
No worries though, the DEV will continue for quite a while still.

I'm quite content on my Evo...there will always be community based DEV for the evo long after its phased out...Some of us cant afford to get new phones each contract period...I plan to keep mine as long as I can.

There are still people developing for the Hero, I'm not even a little bit worried about my Evo

Maybe HTC will give us an unlock in October as a farewell gift. I personally don't need it, but it would be a nice gift for those who got it pre-installed.

I, too, just bought mine in June. But I'm not even remotely worried. Even on stock, I'm loving this phone. I could definitely use the better battery life once root hits the 2.3, though.

Yah that's only because there'll be an iPhone in September.
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I'm not really surprised they are phasing the phone out, it was only a matter of time before faster phones hit the market. That however does not mean the all dev work will stop on it over night. This phone is still the OG & I'm proud to rock it!

I have high hope for sprint I will be expecting them to improve there 3g and 4g coverage and the new phones.
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I gotnmy evo in December and even though I can upgrade to the evo 3D soon I'm staying with my evo

DJ1395 said:
I gotnmy evo in December and even though I can upgrade to the evo 3D soon I'm staying with my evo
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Oh please.. You're going to get an iPhone by then.. Lol
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Jason Black said:
Oh please.. You're going to get an iPhone by then.. Lol
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I would too if comes out.
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I am going to stick with the evo until sprint makes the jump from wimax to lte. Hopefully they wont be able to support both networks and give us some sort of incentive to switch. Wishful thinking probably- with the amount of wimax phones they currently have in the wild.

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I would too if comes out.
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A top dollar phone that will get stomped by the S2, Photon, 3D and 4G+ but comes with an Apple logo and manufactured by a company that wants Android to simply cease to be, I'll pass.

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A top dollar phone that will get stomped by the S2, Photon, 3D and 4G+ but comes with an Apple logo and manufactured by a company that wants Android to simply cease to be, I'll pass.
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I had iPhone before, getting an android. What I'm looking for a phone is long lasting battery life and more choices of games and bigger screen like my evo.
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A top dollar phone that will get stomped by the S2, Photon, 3D and 4G+ but comes with an Apple logo and manufactured by a company that wants Android to simply cease to be, I'll pass.
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Stomped? Do you somehow got the iPhone 5 specs out of thin air?

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Stomped? Do you somehow got the iPhone 5 specs out of thin air?
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Logical progression would dictate A5 dual core ARM9 cpu clocked at 1Ghz, GPU most likely SGX543 or 544, 1gb DDR2. It's not hard to see where it fits in the hardware specs. The only advantage I see Apple would have is OS and app optimizations out of the box as they control the hardware design.

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Logical progression would dictate A5 dual core ARM9 cpu clocked at 1Ghz, GPU most likely SGX543 or 544, 1gb DDR2. It's not hard to see where it fits in the hardware specs. The only advantage I see Apple would have is OS and app optimizations out of the box as they control the hardware design.
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The A5 doesn't get stomped by any of those phones. Its likely that the GPU will be superior.
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I'm excited for the Galaxy S2. I'm hoping it's unlocked from the get go. Btw it just hit the FCC this morning!
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how did this get turned into an anti-apple thread? yes we all hate apple, but this is about sprint dropping our beloved evo!

I have really been looking at new phones...

And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!

Beautiful
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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.

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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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That's a good point. A friend of mine just got the 3D. He came from a Windows mobile phone. He has been going on and on about it but the stuff that he likes are things that I have had on my rooted EVO for a while. I think his excitement is Android based and not based on that particular phone. I have compared mine and just can find enough reason to switch before I see what the development looks like. My rooted EVO is only a small step behind the stock 3D, IMO.

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And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!
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You got it! +1 on this one!

No real replacement for Evo until next year. It's hard to perfect perfection.
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upgrading to a newer android phone from the evo is just like upgrading from an iphone 3g to a 3gs, only slight differences.

Bad news... http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oodbye-to-the-htc-evo-4g-and-samsung-epic-4g/
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doesn't mean anything. just that sprint doesn't want it on its shelves anymore in order to sell their new devices.

I'm assuming HTC wants people to upgrade to either the 3D or the Kingdom when it releases as the Hero 4G under Sprint.
Rumor has it that the Kingdom will be a tad cheaper than the 3D. It's basically an Evo with a bigger screen and a worse camera but better hardware specs. It seems like it will be Sprint's new flagship model for some time and will probably be used to tempt all the people that are still happy with their Evo 4Gs out of hiding.

If the Evo 4+ makes it to sprint, that will be the one I am interested in...but only if I can have what I have now. I could only consider it a downgrade to go to a phone that can not do what my current phone does...really not interested if its faster...if it can't do all I have now damn the Evo is nice. I really can't think of another phone that after rooting can do. ALL the things I'm allowed to do due to the amazing development teams

I love my evo 4g
will only upgrade to a phone that's actually superior like 2.0ghz quadcore processer with 16 gig internal, 8 ram with like 1080 resolution screen 8 megapixel camera. 3 megapixel front camera and better gaming than nvidas kal-el chip
But as there aren't going to be any like that for a while I'll stick with what I've got
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I have an evo 4g and its a beast! Ill wait for when LTE phones come out
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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I agree. This whole HTC locking boot loaders is so people will go out and buy their next best device. Crap I tell ya.... Worst part is, when you do buy Another device, they'll just lock it later down the road... IDK.. that sounds kinda crazy eh? LOL
Anyways the EVO is an awesome device and glad I got it.
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I don't go for the conspiracy theory that THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO LIKE YOUR PHONE. This is nonsense. The more you like it the more HTC phones you will buy, and the more you will recommend it to friends. The locking seems to be due to carrier pressure, because the carrier pays for the tech support calls when people screw them up when rooting, overclocking, etc. You call HTC with a screwed up phone and they will tell you to call Sprint ;-)
Just yesterday, the Evo3D root came out, and the instructions led many hundreds of people to have to call tech support to get the phone connected to the network again! This is no joke, I was one of those who called. One of the rooters asked the Sprint rep, and he said he had personally gotten close to 70 calls just yesterday with the same "Error 16" issue due to the new root procedure!
Beyond, that, I agree, EVO 4G rules. I got a 3D, and I do not like it as much as the OG.

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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I have never owned a g2x. I merely made this post because I feel it is the best well rounded phone for all my needs. HDMI mirroring really makes this shine. The wiimote app only gets used occasionally but still very sweet and it works just like I have a damn old school nes haha. It just fits me and HTC locking bootloaders lol. They will eventually get unlocked. Not a big deal. Then we will all forget about the 3 weeks spent with a horribly locked 3d/sensation lmao.

Is the Evo the most popular Android smartphone ever?

Strangely enough I still see a ton of people use the Evo 4G more so than ever even after this phone has been around for over a year now and really not too many Photons, Evo 3D's, or Epic 4G Touches. What makes our phone one of the most ubitiquous?

It would be if it sold on more carriers i bet. It was a revolution when it came out so it sold alot and continued doing well afte a price drop. Sadly im guess it will fade out when peoples upgrades come around since the evo isnt even 2 years old yet.

When the evo came it was was THE powerhouse. Now, most of the phones that come out are just dual core 1.2GHz something. Take away the second core, and you have an Evo. The Evo can still most things as the newer phones, just 'technically' slower. So like some games/apps may not work because they were optimized for dual core performance. I mean you can tether, wifi, 3g/4g...everything else the newer phone are doing, with the NFC only on the nexus. That's why most people are holding out on the evo.

It's because of XDA that the EVO is still holding strong

I believe Evo has the strongest dev community of any phone, and certainly the most longevity. It deserves it - it's the 1st superphone.

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I believe Evo has the strongest dev community of any phone, and certainly the most longevity. It deserves it - it's the 1st superphone.
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That's a fact...go look at any other of the XDA forums for other phones...none have as much going on there as far as active members, devs and posts and threads still being made. We have at least 10 threads with over 1 million plus views and some with over 2 million, most others only have a couple with a few hundred thousand views. The Evo has one hell of a community, something I will for sure miss whenever I jump to another phone next year when my contract runs out.

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It's because of XDA that the EVO is still holding strong
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I believe Evo has the strongest dev community of any phone, and certainly the most longevity. It deserves it - it's the 1st superphone.
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Search Google for XDA and the evo forum is still on of the top returns BIG THANKS TO THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!! Developers and users and even the lurkers. Thank you and keep doing what you do! except the lurkers! you would be suprised that you might be able to help someone just be respectful and share you own experience with roms and apps etc

I still enjoy my evo and with the releases of ics I will be content for a while longer. Though there are stronger phones now, the evo 4g hold it own. The devs are amazing here.
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Wish I could get a 1.5 ghz dual...no no quadcore evo
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I'm holding out for a while as well, still find plenty of use with my EVO.
Even when I upgrade, I don't know if I could sell it.
It holds a certain sentimental value now as my first smartphone and Android device

We'll all eventually move on but you NEVER forget your first....

Even with other "better" phones out I still think the evo is the best. And btw anyone else feel like if they kept the design the same and just suped up the specs of this phone (no gay ass 3d) and put in quad core 1gb of ram (the works) maybe slim it a little it would be the absolute best phone ever?
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Even with other "better" phones out I still think the evo is the best. And btw anyone else feel like if they kept the design the same and just suped up the specs of this phone (no gay ass 3d) and put in quad core 1gb of ram (the works) maybe slim it a little it would be the absolute best phone ever?
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And ditch Sense I guess that won't matter I would just root it and flash Decks and then Yes
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And ditch Sense I guess that won't matter I would just root it and flash Decks and then Yes
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And ditch Sense I guess that won't matter I would just root it and flash Decks and then Yes
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Attaboy. AOSP > Sense all day everyday
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To me, I have compared my Rooted Evo to newer current phones and mines do the same thing. Still 8megpx camera, now with the newer twicks,panorama ect.
My 4G gives me steady 7 to 9mbps. I am running mix sense, and Gingerbread.
So. the way it is my phone is still good until August 2012 when my upgrade
Now also, with this app called " Jeannie" is just as good as the SIRI that the Iphone has. Now. we all know Iphone is not a match with a rooted EVO but that SIRI is cool. Jeannie is same if not better.
I have all apps that I need and still have over 160mp of free space of internal memory and over 4GB on the sd card. SO? what else I need?
IM sure, August 2012, the newer EVO then will be a Quad Core beast with camera of 10megapix and way much more...until then My EVO Rocks!!