DO NOT ACCEPT THE OTA AT THIS TIME WHETHER YOU ARE ROOTED OR NOT IF YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO ROOT IN THE FUTURE. THE NEW BOOTLOADER IN THE OTA IS LOCKED. Is this a joke HTC?
Damn. Good looking out. Even though I don't plan on it, its good to know.
Already done but I don't root so bleh
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Already done but I don't root so bleh
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But its always nice to have the option.
The main way I see of getting around this in the future is by finding a way to downgrade hboot.
FACK!!
Too late for me..... I trusted HTC and I got stabbed in the back
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I thought they weren't locking the bootloaders anymore?
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RileyGrant said:
DO NOT ACCEPT THE OTA AT THIS TIME WHETHER YOU ARE ROOTED OR NOT IF YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO ROOT IN THE FUTURE. THE NEW BOOTLOADER IN THE OTA IS LOCKED. Is this a joke HTC?
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When you say locked, do you mean locked in the same way that every other bootloader with the Evo has been? Locked in a way that can be cracked and rooted still?
OR
Do you mean they cryptographically signed it? (encrypted?)
If it's encrypted, then yes, I agree with you. WTF HTC??
I have seen people say they got into the bootloader to reinstall Amon Ra.....
HTC may have verbally negated their future bootloader policy, but this plus the Sense SDK, their Sense services and stores are just proof that they are out to create a psuedo propriety OS, Android ecosystem be damned.
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When you say locked, do you mean locked in the same way that every other bootloader with the Evo has been? Locked in a way that can be cracked and rooted still?
OR
Do you mean they cryptographically signed it? (encrypted?)
If it's encrypted, then yes, I agree with you. WTF HTC??
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From the looks of it, it looks to be a little more serious, post from Toast's twitter:
toastcfh:
@htc you promised us no more locked bootloaders and the EVO 4G OTA has a LOCKED bootloader? WHY?!
However the one thing we have going for us is that, unlike most instances involving devices with locked bootloaders, we have a number of older hackable bootloaders to fall back on. If hboot can be downgraded then that serves as a possible means of rooting once again.
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I have seen people say they got into the bootloader to reinstall Amon Ra.....
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Only because they took the OTA after they had already used Unrevoked forever. Therefore, S-off remained after the OTA (lucky for those guys who did that..) Since after the OTA they still had S-off (thanks to unrevoked forever), they were able to just reflash Amon Ra. They don't know how lucky there are.
screenshots or it didn't happen.
AbsolutZeroGI said:
screenshots or it didn't happen.
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lulz, there'sa few unlucky souls who reverted to stock then updated, maybe they'd give us a looksie?
RileyGrant said:
From the looks of it, it looks to be a little more serious, post from Toast's twitter:
toastcfh:
@htc you promised us no more locked bootloaders and the EVO 4G OTA has a LOCKED bootloader? WHY?!
However the one thing we have going for us is that, unlike most instances involving devices with locked bootloaders, we have a number of older hackable bootloaders to fall back on. If hboot can be downgraded then that serves as a possible means of rooting once again.
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Damn, that really sucks. This kind of makes me worried a little bit. This is right after they promised us no locked bootloaders, and here we are with a locked bootloader on the OTA. There really was no reason for them to even 'update' the bootloader, other than to lock it.
HTC better stick to what they said, especially with the Evo 3d
That's why never trust ota like that just be patient plus I believe virus already has this Rom rooted
Customized EVO
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Only because they took the OTA after they had already used Unrevoked forever. Therefore, S-off remained after the OTA (lucky for those guys who did that..) Since after the OTA they still had S-off (thanks to unrevoked forever), they were able to just reflash Amon Ra. They don't know how lucky there are.
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Thats pretty smart. I can flash unrevoked forever in recovery right? And will unrevoked forever s-on undo it? Sorry, newb questions.
I think Samsung just won a customer. I wanted to wait for the Sensation but I'm going for the SGS II. Thanks for the info.
f.
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The htc announcement was about a week ago. This OTA was most likely already in sprints hands when that was said. So, just give it some time i guess.
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Thats pretty smart. I can flash unrevoked forever in recovery right? And will unrevoked forever s-on undo it? Sorry, newb questions.
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Don't do that man. It's not worth even risking it. What if unrevoked forever didn't do it's job, and you ended up with S on, on an unrootable bootloader?
Just go to xHausx's thread and download and flash the rooted version of the rom. Screw taking it OTA, that's for people who don't root their phones (the general public and masses). For us who are rooted, we just download from XDA and flash. I cannot for the life of me understand people's obsession with wanting to take the 'official' OTA and risk breaking root, when you can just safely flash the same exact update, except it's been rooted. I don't get it.
Related
For those of you who unrooted and installed the Gingerbread OTA update, here's how to root it by unrooting to 2.2 then using the regular 2.2 root method.
You need to go back to 2.2 for now which isn't a big deal and takes 5 minutes.
Unroot directions:
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g/
2.2 Root method:
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-new/
Didn't Work i got a ERROR140 WRONG BOOTLOADER. crap!
lol
i bet people couldnt wait for gingerbread and unrooted their phones
not realizing that nothing major had changed for the evo lol
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lol
i bet people couldnt wait for gingerbread and unrooted their phones
not realizing that nothing major had changed for the evo lol
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The same thing happened when OTA 3.70 came out. Then people *****ed until a root method became available. Couldn't wait the couple of hours until a Dev posted a rooted ROM. No sympathy here.
What happened to us getting sense 2.1 from htc?
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What happened to us getting sense 2.1 from htc?
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Who said that would happen. Consensus was that it was going to be sense 1.0 since we got the april leak. And htc never said anything about a sense ui upgrade. Why dont you pick one of the many sense 2.1 roms availible. All are smooth and great bases for future roms.
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Who said that would happen. Consensus was that it was going to be sense 1.0 since we got the april leak. And htc never said anything about a sense ui upgrade. Why dont you pick one of the many sense 2.1 roms availible. All are smooth and great bases for future roms.
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well since the sense sdk is coming, hopefully itll make the newer sense roms more stable
ok, so if the bootloader is still locked(which was predicted that htc's policy wasnt retro active). Did they at least "not" patch the rageagainstthecage exploit? If they did that sucks(well, it sucks for the noobs that unrooted to get it at least, instead of waiting an hour later).Hopefully the exploit still works for GB.
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ok, so if the bootloader is still locked(which was predicted that htc's policy wasnt retro active). Did they at least "not" patch the rageagainstthecage exploit? If they did that sucks(well, it sucks for the noobs that unrooted to get it at least, instead of waiting an hour later).Hopefully the exploit still works for GB.
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google patched rage in gingerbread. HTC tried to in 3.70 but we were able to get around it
Anyone tried ginger break?
Edit: for partial root.
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xHausx said:
google patched rage in gingerbread. HTC tried to in 3.70 but we were able to get around it
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do you know if the gingerbreak will work for us, or is that patched too.
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do you know if the gingerbreak will work for us, or is that patched too.
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gingerbreak will work but tends to corrupt sd cards
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Didn't Work i got a ERROR140 WRONG BOOTLOADER. crap!
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Same error.
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Same error.
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I guess We're stuck until some1 slaps out the Root for this puppy!
Give me a few hours and I should have something out for you guys, I'm going to have to rethink some things since gingerbreak disables the sd card.
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kf2m said:
The same thing happened when OTA 3.70 came out. Then people *****ed until a root method became available. Couldn't wait the couple of hours until a Dev posted a rooted ROM. No sympathy here.
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Nelson: ha ha !
Gingerbreak
I've already tried every method on 2.3, Z4root doesn't work, Vision root doesn't work, Gingerbreak doesn't work, hence why you can still root it by going back to 2.2 RUU. For now, this will get most people rooted. not sure about the errors some people are getting yet.
I am getting the error as well.
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Nelson: ha ha !
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Nobody is asking for your sympathy, fag stick! Why don't you hold down the button on the top of your EVO. When the screen turns black, just walk away so the actual professionals do what no one has ever accomplished. Innovation is what pays the rent and the rent is just too damn high. Stain me.
zedomax said:
For those of you who unrooted and installed the Gingerbread OTA update, here's how to root it by unrooting to 2.2 then using the regular 2.2 root method.
You need to go back to 2.2 for now which isn't a big deal and takes 5 minutes.
Unroot directions:
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-unroot-your-htc-evo-4g/
2.2 Root method:
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-hacks/how-to-root-htc-evo-4g-new/
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I tried running the 2.2 RUU, to revert back, but it crashes & says I have a newer version... Does not work man.. says incorrect boot loader LOL
I just got a replacement phone from Sprint. They updated it.. unrevoked won't work now. Any ideas yet??
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If it came with the GB update on it. You should be able to downgrade to Froyo and then root.
Probably have to give it a little more time Hasn't been done yet that I know of.
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dabbill said:
If it came with the GB update on it. You should be able to downgrade to Froyo and then root.
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Since when lol? As far as I know if it came with GB you're **** outta luck.
Yep youre SOL, looks like the old exploits were all patched too so I would expect waiting a few weeks.
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If it came with the GB update on it. You should be able to downgrade to Froyo and then root.
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If the bootloader says "S-On", and has hboot 2.16, you cannot downgrade to Froyo. You will get an error about the boot loader being an older version.
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I just got a replacement phone from Sprint. They updated it.. unrevoked won't work now. Any ideas yet??
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Have you tried to do Z4root and the unrevoked s-off forever method. Just a thought. May not be a good one but I use z4 for temp root and I know it wont fully root only because of the S-on in the bootloader. Also which bootloader do you have currently. If its a newer bootloader as well its definitely a no-go
They will figure it out
I still have a pci36 image from froyo If I place it on the root of my sd card, it.should replace me back to froyo and then I can run unrevoked 3 right or??
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I still have a pci36 image from froyo If I place it on the root of my sd card, it.should replace me back to froyo and then I can run unrevoked 3 right or??
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Are you S-ON or S-OFF in the bootloader?
S-On
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S-On
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It probably only works if you were S-OFF.
You can try it to see what happens.
I tried it didn't downgrade, I also tried the Ruu it did nothing either. Just wait patiently you will be able to root soon. This stock ROM is running smoothing anyway, no big deal...
When all else fails, use brute force. Do a google search on goldcards. ;-)
jeriel05 said:
I tried it didn't downgrade, I also tried the Ruu it did nothing either. Just wait patiently you will be able to root soon. This stock ROM is running smoothing anyway, no big deal...
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Just trying to see a pattern here, but was your bootloader also S-ON?
Lookn4me said:
I just got a replacement phone from Sprint. They updated it.. unrevoked won't work now. Any ideas yet??
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Dude. On another thread you updated live OTA and ask for help to root it. Now you got a replacement phone from Sprint and they've updated it. Pick a story and stick with it. Are u sure Sprint is sending out replacement phones with Gingerbread update already installed or are you just making up stories as you go along? I'm asking because I have a replacement phone coming this week.
Not wanting to call you out. Just trying to confirm what I might expect coming from Sprint this week.
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Dude. On another thread you updated live OTA and ask for help to root it. Now you got a replacement phone from Sprint and they've updated it. Pick a story and stick with it. Are u sure Sprint is sending out replacement phones with Gingerbread update already installed or are you just making up stories as you go along? I'm asking because I have a replacement phone coming this week.
Not wanting to call you out. Just trying to confirm what I might expect coming from Sprint this week.
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My homegirl just got a replacement from Sprint today and it still has froyo on it.
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My homegirl just got a replacement from Sprint today and it still has froyo on it.
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Thanks for the info. I was hoping this would be the case.
For your info, some of us can afford & do have more than one phone.... I only asked for help. Not to hear an idiot talk trash.. have a great day: -)& yes it came updated...
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Just trying to see a pattern here, but was your bootloader also S-ON?
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Yes, I unrooted my phone and bootloader was S-ON
I am trying to get to the drivers installed and I am doing what the instructions say, "Turn off your phone, then boot it into the HBOOT menu by holding power and volume down.", but all it does is boot normal, but really fast. Am I doing something wrong, other than being a noob?
I am not rooted
htc EVO 4g
v2.3.3 ota
you need to pull out the battery first. or disable fastboot in the settings.
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I am trying to get to the drivers installed and I am doing what the instructions say, "Turn off your phone, then boot it into the HBOOT menu by holding power and volume down.", but all it does is boot normal, but really fast. Am I doing something wrong, other than being a noob?
I am not rooted
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Yea, you have fastboot mode enabled, which you can turn off in menu>settings>power management, or something to that nature. What exactly are you trying to install the hboot drivers for? I only ask, because if it is so you can use Unrevoked, I just wanted to give you a heads up that it won't be working for you, and I'd avoid trying it. Unrevoked won't work for the 2.3.3 OTA. If it is for other reasons, then carry on!
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Yea, you have fastboot mode enabled, which you can turn off in menu>settings>power management, or something to that nature. What exactly are you trying to install the hboot drivers for? I only ask, because if it is so you can use Unrevoked, I just wanted to give you a heads up that it won't be working for you, and I'd avoid trying it. Unrevoked won't work for the 2.3.3 OTA. If it is for other reasons, then carry on!
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Well I was trying to get one step ahead by getting ready to root when Unrevoked gets it figured out. On their site it says to install the drivers for windows users. I guess it is safe to say I am completely wrong about this one?
civicboy1791 said:
Well I was trying to get one step ahead by getting ready to root when Unrevoked gets it figured out. On their site it says to install the drivers for windows users. I guess it is safe to say I am completely wrong about this one?
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Well, you DO need to have the hboot drivers installed for Unrevoked to work, if you're using windows. The problem is that Unrevoked is not yet updated to work with the 2.3.3 OTA. There is currently no root method for ya. The only hope you'd have for right now, is if your phone had been rooted prior to you having it, and your bootloader is still S-off. Other than that, you're going to need to wait until unrevoked gets updated to work with the OTA. I also wouldn't be surprised if when there is an Updated method to work with the new hboot 2.16, that there is a different set of modified hboot drivers that will need to be used (speculation, but wouldn't be surprised). That would mean you'd just need to install them again.
I would just sit tight and wait for the updated Unrevoked to drop, and see if there is anything that changes with their instructions or downloads.
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Well, you DO need to have the hboot drivers installed for Unrevoked to work, if you're using windows. The problem is that Unrevoked is not yet updated to work with the 2.3.3 OTA. There is currently no root method for ya. The only hope you'd have for right now, is if your phone had been rooted prior to you having it, and your bootloader is still S-off. Other than that, you're going to need to wait until unrevoked gets updated to work with the OTA. I also wouldn't be surprised if when there is an Updated method to work with the new hboot 2.16, that there is a different set of modified hboot drivers that will need to be used (speculation, but wouldn't be surprised). That would mean you'd just need to install them again.
I would just sit tight and wait for the updated Unrevoked to drop, and see if there is anything that changes with their instructions or downloads.
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Looks like I am sitting tight... Thank you for all the input!
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Looks like I am sitting tight... Thank you for all the input!
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You're welcome. I always feel bad for the owner of an unrooted evo, hopefully you won't need to wait too long! If I were you, I'd probably be looking all over craigslist, hoping to get lucky and find one that's still on Froyo, and try to trade up!
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You're welcome. I always feel bad for the owner of an unrooted evo, hopefully you won't need to wait too long! If I were you, I'd probably be looking all over craigslist, hoping to get lucky and find one that's still on Froyo, and try to trade up!
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I was considering doing the root before the ota 2.3.3 but wasn't comfortable with it yet, now i pretty much have the procedure memorized, but somehow missed the part about not doing the ota's. Lesson learned. And i didn't even think about Craigslist, going there now...
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I am trying to get to the drivers installed and I am doing what the instructions say, "Turn off your phone, then boot it into the HBOOT menu by holding power and volume down.", but all it does is boot normal, but really fast. Am I doing something wrong, other than being a noob?
I am not rooted
htc EVO 4g
v2.3.3 ota
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You have to be rooted first
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fnkyscotty said:
You have to be rooted first
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como?
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civicboy1791 said:
I was considering doing the root before the ota 2.3.3 but wasn't comfortable with it yet, now i pretty much have the procedure memorized, but somehow missed the part about not doing the ota's. Lesson learned. And i didn't even think about Craigslist, going there now...
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Also, I have no idea how true it is...but I've heard a couple people report that they had success in going to a Sprint store, and convincing one of the techs there to downgrade the phone back to Froyo. Again, that's just hearsay, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint had the capabilities to downgrade the system (we currently can't downgrade). If that is at all true, and you were able to get them to downgrade ya, then you could root using unrevoked.
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HA! nice lol
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Also, I have no idea how true it is...but I've heard a couple people report that they had success in going to a Sprint store, and convincing one of the techs there to downgrade the phone back to Froyo. Again, that's just hearsay, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sprint had the capabilities to downgrade the system (we currently can't downgrade). If that is at all true, and you were able to get them to downgrade ya, then you could root using unrevoked.
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Calling now, let you know what they say
negative - they say it is not possible...
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negative - they say it is not possible...
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Damn, that's too bad. I wonder if it is actually possible, but they're instructed to not do it....either that or the person who reported it before was full of it! He did say it took some convincing though, and he gave a few reasons as to why he wanted to do it (ie. with the GB OTA netflix didnt work, it borked wireless N wifi, the compass no longer worked, phantom voicemail icons, etc) he complained of all those valid things, and got the guy to do it. At least that's what he said.
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Damn, that's too bad. I wonder if it is actually possible, but they're instructed to not do it....either that or the person who reported it before was full of it! He did say it took some convincing though, and he gave a few reasons as to why he wanted to do it (ie. with the GB OTA netflix didnt work, it borked wireless N wifi, the compass no longer worked, phantom voicemail icons, etc) he complained of all those valid things, and got the guy to do it. At least that's what he said.
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Well I just got my netflix working
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my evo is rooted already and i havent paid much atention since i got my 3d but was there an HBOOT update in the GB OTA as compared to the last Froyo 3.70?
If there wasnt, anyone should be able to a simple downgrade with a previous RUU and then use any of the working root methods for froyo.
just a thought i had while being bored.
Nope, new bootloader is locked. Cant downgrade.
EVOlvedAndroid said:
Nope, new bootloader is locked. Cant downgrade.
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so there was a bootloader update?
I really don't even know what to say anymore. I give up. Someone else can do it.
github said:
I really don't even know what to say anymore. I give up. Someone else can do it.
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+1 thats all i have to say about that
what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
t3project said:
what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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The short version is there is no way around or tricking the bootloader. Pretty much every way imaginable to do this has been tried a bunch of times. We need to find a new exploit to get in. Several devs are working on it and itay happen soon. Seems to be more problematic than any one expected.
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The short version is there is no way around or tricking the bootloader. Pretty much every way imaginable to do this has been tried a bunch of times. We need to find a new exploit to get in. Several devs are working on it and itay happen soon. Seems to be more problematic than any one expected.
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yes, but you're not tricking the bootloader. the bootloader remains the same. the sys image is all you are changing and the signatures should remain intact if it is pulled out of a froyo ruu. for that matter even try placing a rooted OTA sys image in it. this would not gain s-off but you could run a shell root and su if it would work.
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what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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As far as I understand, the new bootloader won't allow for downgrading or flashing anything that doesn't match HTCs signature....so modifying files is out of the question....
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what about replacing the system.img in in the latest pc36img with one from the last froyo? if the bootloader stays intact it should flash the froyo sys image and then you could at lease have temp root
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Can't do that, it would break HTC's signature and the bootloader would not accept it
I need to save this response in a text file so I can just copy and paste it every day.
You can't modify the contents of a RUU provided by HTC on an S-ON HBOOT. The zip is signed by HTC with their private key. The HBOOT has the public key. Changing just 1 bit on the zip will invalidate the private key and HBOOT won't allow it to flash. This is the reason for wanting S-OFF, so you can flash anything via HBOOT (Recovery, for example) without any signature checks.
You also can't downgrade the HBOOT, as it will give you an error about an earlier version.
All the obvious ideas have been tried, over and over again over the past few months since the new update hit.
If you are still confused, please see this article on Wikipedia about Public Key Cryptography.
Don't forget to add that goldcards and battery pull microsd swaps do not work either.
Well, eff. I switched back to Sprint and back to the EVO today after a (very unpleasant) experience with T-MO and the G2X, only to find out my brand new EVO is already on Gingerbread and can't be rooted, ruling out the best part about owning an EVO... all the awesome custom ROMs. Lovely.
There's been all types of shenanigans occurring trying to root this thing. Including physically planting in the ground. No root from that either. Appreciate where you're coming from and trying to help and all though
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Well, eff. I switched back to Sprint and back to the EVO today after a (very unpleasant) experience with T-MO and the G2X, only to find out my brand new EVO is already on Gingerbread and can't be rooted, ruling out the best part about owning an EVO... all the awesome custom ROMs. Lovely.
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Its being worked on right now so no worries
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I'm rooted but jw is there any news on when that source will be out?
My stupid friends at work wouldn't let me root their froyo and now want to pay me to root their gb I don't even want $ .
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HTC One Bootloader Unlocking Deletes Apps, Blocks Future Updates
HTC One owners looking to unlock the device's bootloader in order to install custom versions of Android are being warned that certain pre-installed applications are automatically wiped and future software updates blocked from the device.
According to testing by MoDaCo, unlocking the bootloader on HTC's latest top-end Android smartphone will wipe a special section of the data partition that contains four pre-installed applications: the Calculator, Flashlight, Ringtone Trimmer and Sound Recorder application. When the bootloader is unlocked - a step required for the installation of a third-party or otherwise modified operating system from a 'ROM' file - these applications are permanently wiped from the device and cannot be reinstalled.
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We seriously need to get some more information about this phone. So far, we don't even know which variants are going to be released to which regions.
This is nothing new. Unless you want to run a stock ROM with root, this is not a problem.
Umm....why WOULDN'T I want to run a stock ROM with root? I'm guessing a huge majority of average users would want this. With manufacturers draconian policies on how we can't use the devices we payed almost $1000 for they are driving us into the ever loving arms of $350 Nexi.
I was going to switch from the Galaxy S3 to HTC One, but i never knew you can't s-off. Might just get the S4 now
fazzxx said:
I was going to switch from the Galaxy S3 to HTC One, but i never knew you can't s-off. Might just get the S4 now
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HTC dev unlock unlocks the bootloader but you are still s on. With s on you can still flash roms via custom recovery and kernels via fastboot or flashgui app. Only thing is you can't flash radios. I'm positive s off is going to happen sooner than later.
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eg1122 said:
HTC dev unlock unlocks the bootloader but you are still s on. With s on you can still flash roms via custom recovery and kernels via fastboot or flashgui app. Only thing is you can't flash radios. I'm positive s off is going to happen sooner than later.
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Is that only HTC which need s off or do samsungs require that too?
I might hold of on purchasing the HTC One to see what sort of developer community emerges. How easy rooting becomes. Otherwise I waiting to see what Google/Motorola have to offer.
Don't want to stick with Samsung.
fazzxx said:
Is that only HTC which need s off or do samsungs require that too?
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It's only HTC
I think carbon app by koush is better option to backup apps. It doesn't require root.
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I might hold of on purchasing the HTC One to see what sort of developer community emerges. How easy rooting becomes. Otherwise I waiting to see what Google/Motorola have to offer.
Don't want to stick with Samsung.
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I accidentally thanked you. Anyhow, rooting is easy, already done, actually, but is completely difernt than S-off. S-off is done at the radio level. Evo LTE got s-off achieved within a few months of release (before the one X ) there are always subgroups of geniuses working on S-off. And rarely do they fail to deliver. But root and S-off are a million miles apart. You can't root and install custom recovery using htcstool before S-off.
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Edit: somehow I combined your post with one asking about S-off. My apologies. Thank tullamore dew
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I accidentally thanked you. Anyhow, rooting is easy, already done, actually, but is completely difernt than S-off. S-off is done at the radio level. Evo LTE got s-off achieved within a few months of release (before the one X ) there are always subgroups of geniuses working on S-off. And rarely do they fail to deliver. But root and S-off are a million miles apart. You can't root and install custom recovery using htcstool before S-off.
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Can you expand on that further?
I would want to root instantly and install Android HD