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2.2 With SenseUI Aug 3!!

"Google" The EVO Update As I'm Not Allowed to post links.. BOO.
The EVO gets 2.2 presumably with the SenseUI on August 3rd.. When this is released is there any chance that we will see this flavor of custom rom for our Hero devices?! Hopefully Darch and the other XDA experts wont let us go without.. We can ONLY HOPE!! Hint, Hint, Nudge, Nudge.. Surprised there isn't a leak already.. Or is there!?

There is, i am running full 2.2 100% working on my Evo, and HTC also posted the update.zip on their website, but Devs from the Evo have had sense working for awhile now, but it still hasn't been ported over because of the huge differences in frameworks

I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.

darchstar told me many times tonight there will be no 2.2 sense port for the hero. (from the evo) the arch is different

Nfinitefx45 will be working on porting 2.2 sense here soon
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Thanks for the info!
I flipped through the EVO dev forum (reluctantly) and saw that they are already up and running on the latest froyo build which is awesome! I'm glad to see that all hope is not lost and that there will be some development for 2.2 with sense. To answer Zardos66 I personally like the facebook contact linking and the look of the UI. It has nothing to do with performance and everything to do with functionality and usefulness. The SenseUI is a bit clunky but I haven't found a happy medium with any of the roms that don't have the SenseUI. Just something I'd like to see and If it can be done I trust that the XDA Pros will knock it out of the park.. I'm very excited to see what can be made of this!! XDA FTW!

Zardos66 said:
I really wish I knew what people liked about SenseUI. It just seems so bulky and slow to me.
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I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.

eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Even with OC, Sense still lags. It's is easy to mimic with less ram taken up.
Launcher pro
2x4 people widget - free
Messaging Widgets - free
Weather and toggle widgets - $1.99
feels good man.

Supposedly we can't port the EVO 2.2 release over to the Hero because the EVO build is designed for a much faster processor. Our Hero couldn't handle such a port without A LOT of tweaking....in other words, almost impossible.
Whenever the HTC Legend gets their 2.2 release, that is probably the build that the devs here will try to port over for us. A couple people have already committed to doing this.

eltrutgnik said:
I thinks it mainly the widgets. other then that idk.
Im running senses, i've tried an aosp rom, it just didn't feel right, i guess i got used to sense.
But will install cm6 when darch gets into the RCs.
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Darch released RC0 a few builds ago, i am currently running Not my dog too build and all is pretty well. Camera app is still pretty much useless but Camera Magic is a quick fix. The gallery is pretty messed up with auto rotate and such, but aside from pictures it is a MAJOR improvement over eclair. My Hero runs like a champ!

does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.

surrealbliss said:
does it change anything that the desire got a sense 2.2 today also?
http://goo.gl/fb/Z0kfj
I'm not familiar with the desire to know if it would work... hopefully it's closer to ours.
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no still built on the snap dragon processor and is HDPI (high res) this is why we are waitng on the legend , it is the cousin to the hero in terms of processor and the fact that it is our exact resolution MDPI (medium). the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.

nfinitefx45 said:
the legend is supposed to be on froyo within the next two months.
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If it is gonna be anything like eclair release, I'm not holding my breath till around christmas, which is when the next major version of Android is supposed to be released. I bet by that time Sprint drops all support for their 6 month old Evo like they did with out Heroes, too!

Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )

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Sigh I want froyo with sense.
(Sprint: "What's the evo? Oh that ole thing )
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the bottom line is the hero should of got the 2.2 update. sprint isn't doing a good job of supporting their phones at all. i owned the evo for a week and while i liked the speed & size the pitfall was the battery life. none of the tweaks worked and you had to disable every feature of the phone.

The nexus one looks so good. Still. So much support for it. Being googles baby it will probably get gingerbread. Just saying almost a year old and still one of the best phones. ("Did I get ripped off?" I sometimes wonder)

i just heard droid users are getting froyo today. this is a bunch of bull**** and im pissed at htc. i should of kept my evo. talk about dropping the ball with the hero!

There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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Jsos said:
There will be no port from the Ego since there's wayy to much things to change its almost impossible, but our hope of 2.2 is from the legend!
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i hope so because im not digging the aosp stuff. id like a sense port so i can get the htc goodies.

Froyo's out Gingerbread is in

Well the last craze to get updated to Froyo seems as though it may end up being short lived as I came across this today: http://www.androidcodex.com/gingerb...edium=rss&utm_camp aign=gingerbread-is-coming

2 months for a GB release, then we wait for root (which might be very quick) and/or wait for HTC to Sense-ify GB, then we get it on the Evo. Froyo's got a few months left in it - about as long as Eclair had on the Evo.
Or maybe it will live up to the hype and HTC will leave it alone and just push it without a new UI.

Personally, I can't wait for 3.0. I'm really hoping it comes a lot closer to being as nice looking and easy to use as iOS. I came from an iPhone and loved it, but I love Android a little bit more; I don't know why I like it more, but I do, however, the apps are really ****ty when compared to iOS and the UI is pretty rough in some areas - sense or aosp.
Google really needs to step it up and hire some graphic designers that can't code at all.

Whoot Whoot !!!
bring it on Google
Sent from my HTC Evo

that's pretty cool. I wonder where they got their sources from though? I really would like to see what kind of UI google puts on gingerbread though. And of course, whether or not motorola/HTC/samsung will still blur/sense/touchwiz it...

SilverZero said:
2 months for a GB release, then we wait for root (which might be very quick) and/or wait for HTC to Sense-ify GB, then we get it on the Evo. Froyo's got a few months left in it - about as long as Eclair had on the Evo.
Or maybe it will live up to the hype and HTC will leave it alone and just push it without a new UI.
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I read from a few places that Gingerbread would do away with 3rd party UI's like Sense. It would have to be pretty fricken sweet to get me away from Froyo Sense. I mean, how much faster could it get?

lee.n.doan said:
that's pretty cool. I wonder where they got their sources from though? I really would like to see what kind of UI google puts on gingerbread though. And of course, whether or not motorola/HTC/samsung will still blur/sense/touchwiz it...
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Moto said blur was pretty much dead -as far as new updates goes- on all of their higher end phones, today.

Where is the source on this article?

very cool, maybe ill finally upgrade from the original htc 2.1 rom to GB when it comes out!

Dang it...I saw no mention of "smoother UI experience". The only thing that really bothers me is how choppy the interface is despite a 1Ghz CPU.

h3nG said:
Dang it...I saw no mention of "smoother UI experience". The only thing that really bothers me is how choppy the interface is despite a 1Ghz CPU.
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More than 30fps will never be part of the evo, htc has said many times that its a HARDWARE limitation, they lied for a reason. To cover their ass. I dont see them exposing their own lie, ever.

TheBiles said:
Where is the source on this article?
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This ^
...Next we'll be seeing threads about how Gingerbread will be released on Monday...

Sounds interesting... can't wait.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.

Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?

dglowe343 said:
I read from a few places that Gingerbread would do away with 3rd party UI's like Sense. It would have to be pretty fricken sweet to get me away from Froyo Sense. I mean, how much faster could it get?
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I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.

Plancy said:
Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
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Even if we don't get it from HTC (unlikely) with the dev's we have, I'm sure the evo will run gingerbread one way or another... if the g1 can run froyo... anything can happen

SilverZero said:
I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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Hope that's true. I'd hate to see it done away with.
Sent from my FROYO'D EVO using xda app

SilverZero said:
I think the statement was that Google was aiming for UI that was nice enough to DISCOURAGE manufacturers from layering their own environment over the top, which would hopefully save resources.
But read this.
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I did read somewhere that sense was getting an "upgrade" sometime next year. Dont remember where i read this but i remember reading it for sure. I assume this will be for GB.

Plancy said:
Who says HTC Evo 4g will even get Gingerbread?
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Some dev with port it if anything... I don't see why we wouldn't get it. The phone meets the specs and I don't see them abandoning the EVO so quickly.
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.

This reminds me of all the sourceless articles about Verizon's iPhone launch this January.

GB with Sense 2.x...who will release rom first???

of all the great developers we have in EVO community.
Gingerbread with new sense ROM:
who will be the first to release a functioning (daily driver) for EVO?
my votes for Myn.

id hope for myn or the creator of mikfroyo.
im dying to get a ginger/sense rom. cm7 + my evo do not play well.

I say virus will. He has mad porting skills
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk

I say aamikam cuz he's from my town lol
I don't really care who does, I'd love to play with it for five minutes though.

Yea, Virus gets stuff out really quickly. But i think Calk has this one.

jxr94 said:
Yea, Virus gets stuff out really quickly. But i think Calk has this one.
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no offense to calk but he seems to take alot of time in porting roms over. id say myn or virus may be on top of this one.
one thing that ive noticed is the change to the framework in ginger, well at least aosp roms. all of your png's are usually in just the framework & htc-resource apks. now i see there is another apk called systemui that also comes into play. so anyone like me who likes to manually theme and mod roms may ruin into issues. im sure the devs have noticed this change too.

I would like to see a gingerbread bread rom with stock sense and not a modified one like myn or mikfroyo.

I think I have to go with this dev...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796710
Looks like virus will be helping out.
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im puting my money with AndroidBall. Him hausx and Virus are working together!! crazy

DarkManX4lf said:
I would like to see a gingerbread bread rom with stock sense and not a modified one like myn or mikfroyo.
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i wouldn't mind this either, if only 'cause it'll give a great base for everyone else to work with.

Who cares we just want it to hurry and get released lol
from my phone duh

[THINK TANK] HTC Sense 3.0 on Galaxy Tab .Update HTC Flyer Dump is OUT !

I love sense so I really would love to get a port working
So I looked around and found a couple threads that have some sort of Sense working on Galaxy S devices, which are quite similar to our tabs, threads here:
MAIN GOAL
HTC FLYER ROM Port
DOWNLOAD DUMP HERE: http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/14290088120113282336926/
or here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H3JA41CW
I understand this wont be a walk in the park, but thats why its a think tank so everyone can help! Anyways this is XDA anything is possible : P
Ya so just post your opinions about what you think

Hell yeah, I would be up for that

You get some Sense 3.0 working and you'll be a demi-god around these forums....

btyork said:
You get some Sense 3.0 working and you'll be a demi-god around these forums....
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Lol I def wont be able to get anything working myself, im not a developer, but hopefully we can get some sort of team up and running to do it. Also hopefully the htc flyer's rom dump will come soon, as that has the exact resolution as our devices

If we get a Flyer port, I will happily donate a kidney to whoever ported it.
Sent from inside a whale.

Sense is SENSATIONAL!! well, their facebook integration anyway

Most Excellent, I miss that from my HTC HD2 days..

HTc sense is awesome. I would love to have htc sense port on my gtab.
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crisvillani said:
Lol I def wont be able to get anything working myself, im not a developer, but hopefully we can get some sort of team up and running to do it. Also hopefully the htc flyer's rom dump will come soon, as that has the exact resolution as our devices
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ffs, the way you was talking in your OP it sounded like you was taking the challenge on.
This is pretty much a useless thread then , if there was any dev interested it would have likely been attempted by now.
[EDIT] Looks like OP has been edited/updated.

TheATHEiST said:
ffs, the way you was talking in your OP it sounded like you was taking the challenge on.
This is pretty much a useless thread then , if there was any dev interested it would have likely been attempted by now.
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I would defitnetly take the challenge but like i said i would need some assistance, i am still pondering if i should try to mess around with one of the roms above or wait for the htc flyer rom dump.

I would like a sense port either sense 3.0 or from the flyer it would look sexy. But then again so would a stock honeycomb port with basic functions working
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Arguably the best UI for the Tab? Why not?

Let's set up a bounty!
That would be truly awesome... Sense UI is amazing...
Even if OP isn't a developer, I'm sure the thread can bring together developers who would be willing to spare some time and effort to get it ported... That's what XDA is all about
I think a good start would be to set up a bounty so we can entice those that do have the ability to get onto it...
I'm in favour of a bounty if we have enough people for that

mkhattab said:
That would be truly awesome... Sense UI is amazing...
Even if OP isn't a developer, I'm sure the thread can bring together developers who would be willing to spare some time and effort to get it ported... That's what XDA is all about
I think a good start would be to set up a bounty so we can entice those that do have the ability to get onto it...
I'm in favour of a bounty if we have enough people for that
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Exactly!
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mkhattab said:
That would be truly awesome... Sense UI is amazing...
Even if OP isn't a developer, I'm sure the thread can bring together developers who would be willing to spare some time and effort to get it ported... That's what XDA is all about
I think a good start would be to set up a bounty so we can entice those that do have the ability to get onto it...
I'm in favour of a bounty if we have enough people for that
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No. It looks like crap.

Digiguest said:
No. It looks like crap.
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Everyone has their own opinion. And yours is wrong!
Jokes aside, it'd probably be best to wait for a Flyer ruu leak. HTC are always good at leaking them
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GANJDROID said:
Everyone has their own opinion. And yours is wrong!
Jokes aside, it'd probably be best to wait for a Flyer ruu leak. HTC are always good at leaking them
Sent from inside a whale.
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To each their own. I think that Sense looks awful.

Digiguest said:
To each their own. I think that Sense looks awful.
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I got that from your first post, and I wasn't starting an argument, it was just a little joke.
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Digiguest said:
To each their own. I think that Sense looks awful.
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You prefer the original Touchwiz? I like the Touchwiz too actually. The only one that bugged me is that I have to download the "sort app" application (only works after rooting) or any other launcher if I want to arrange my icons alphabetically.

I asked HTC about why they didn't update the sense .

This is what HTC said about why the new OTA didn't get a sense update even tho alot of us were pissed about it.
I understand how important it is for you to have the latest software available for your device. We work with Sprint to determine which of their branded HTC devices will receive software updates. If your carrier does not request an update for the device we cannot create or host it. For the most up to date information regarding your carrier’s decision to update the device we recommend contacting them.
HTC cannot disclose any information regarding ROM updates until the carrier approves them. I cannot answer any questions or comments regarding any other company’s or manufacturer’s practices. I can tell you it is an industry standard to provide updates for a device for 18 months after its introduction. “Google has announced a partnership with manufacturers and cellular providers to keep all devices up-to-date in Android OS for an 18 month period from the date of launch. HTC and our native carriers were included in this list.
The one exception would be if a device's hardware does not meet the requirements of the update.” This refers to the base operating platform, Android, not the interface of the device. While we do make HTC Sense, our service providers have the final say on what is included in any update that is created for their branded devices.
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 11USCW24ENA000324.
Sincerely,
Jessica
HTC

In a nut shell now: we're not giving you an updated sense because we want you to spend more money to get the latest software. We only see this $_$
Sent from my PC36100

dirkyd3rk said:
In a nut shell now: we're not giving you an updated sense because we want you to spend more money to get the latest software. We only see this $_$
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Ya that pretty much sums it up. Money talks bull**** walks. Kinda blows happy Virus is making some progress on the Kingdom rom with the new sense 3.0.

reaper24 said:
Ya that pretty much sums it up. Money talks bull**** walks. Kinda blows happy Virus is making some progress on the Kingdom rom with the new sense 3.0.
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Haven't tried it yet. All those roms you have to partition your sdcard ext2/3 etc I tend to avoid lol. I've only tried sense 2.1 never ran 3.0 yet. How cool is it?
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Might I also suggest mikg v1.02. Runs flawlessly.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Haven't tried it yet. All those roms you have to partition your sdcard ext2/3 etc I tend to avoid lol. I've only tried sense 2.1 never ran 3.0 yet. How cool is it?
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So far on the newest ones he has done on his site you don't have to partition your SD card he made it smaller. I haven't done it to mine I ran it last night for a few hours to check it out. The kingdom is eye candy looks great has issues with sense restarting and YouTube is laggy. It's pretty cool worth checking out. The rom is trick man.
The most stable 2.1 is virus Synergy Rom I'm loving it nightly build. I haven't had to partition my SD card for any ROM yet you can if you want to .

That sounded more to me like, "Don't ask us, ask Sprint" They're the ones that chose to not let you have the most up to date ROM we could have given you."

HipKat said:
That sounded more to me like, "Don't ask us, ask Sprint" They're the ones that chose to not let you have the most up to date ROM we could have given you."
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I know lol think EVO users should ***** at Sprint for it . I was just asking why and that is what HTC was pretty much saying Sprint is the one to blame.

reaper24 said:
I know lol think EVO users should ***** at Sprint for it . I was just asking why and that is what HTC was pretty much saying Sprint is the one to blame.
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What's even more pathetic is that Sprint Rep told me the DAY BEFORE THE UPDATE was announced that the Evo would never get GB.....
Idiots...

HipKat said:
What's even more pathetic is that Sprint Rep told me the DAY BEFORE THE UPDATE was announced that the Evo would never get GB.....
Idiots...
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Ya they tend to be a pain in the ass when asking for information. Sad the EVO is a great phone and could run sense 3.0 with no problem but Sprint is all about making money and are gonna screw us over on updates.

reaper24 said:
Ya they tend to be a pain in the ass when asking for information. Sad the EVO is a great phone and could run sense 3.0 with no problem but Sprint is all about making money and are gonna screw us over on updates.
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It's called marketing 101. Why would you give the oldest phone the same enhancements as the new one? aren't businesses in business to actually make money and to protect their shareholders?
ropodope
Sent from my Vaelpak GB AOSP Preview Edition v0.1 for Evo 4g. Flash and ye shall receive.

ropodope said:
It's called marketing 101. Why would you give the oldest phone the same enhancements as the new one? aren't businesses in business to actually make money and to protect their shareholders?
ropodope
Sent from my Vaelpak GB AOSP Preview Edition v0.1 for Evo 4g. Flash and ye shall receive.
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Still blows lol a great phone there letting fall behind. They can suck at times.

Well its all about Sprint not wanting to pay for the updated Sense. Anyways thanks to Mik, we have the closest thing to Sense 3.0 with Sense 2.1. It is the best Sense rom I have ever used on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Check it out!

Mikee4fun said:
Well its all about Sprint not wanting to pay for the updated Sense. Anyways thanks to Mik, we have the closest thing to Sense 3.0 with Sense 2.1. It is the best Sense rom I have ever used on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038967
Check it out!
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Lol thanks virus ROM synergy is sweet using it. You should check his work also he fixed alot of it.

Why desperate for 3.0?
I am trying to understand why everyone is so desperate for Sense 3.0. I have run the leaked GB with Sense 3 and it is no great shakes - mostly window dressing with very little added functionality. I went back to a previous version of Sense just because it is simpler and does 99% the same stuff.
I really do not see people buying a phone in order to get the next version of Sense...

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I really do not see people buying a phone in order to get the next version of Sense...
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I agree with this part. I am not looking at buying for Sense 3.0. I am buying the EVO3D for the updated hardware. Also I am sure that I am not the only one.

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I agree with this part. I am not looking at buying for Sense 3.0. I am buying the EVO3D for the updated hardware. Also I am sure that I am not the only one.
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I will buy it for the hardware too! The 3D looks great. I was referring to someone else who indicated that the version of sense would be a reason to buy (or not buy) a phone. When in my opinion, later versions of Sense do almost nothing new for the phone.
Just my opinion after using 3.0 for a week or so.

ronnienyc said:
I will buy it for the hardware too! The 3D looks great. I was referring to someone else who indicated that the version of sense would be a reason to buy (or not buy) a phone. When in my opinion, later versions of Sense do almost nothing new for the phone.
Just my opinion after using 3.0 for a week or so.
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Yeah I was just agreeing with you.

ronnienyc said:
I am trying to understand why everyone is so desperate for Sense 3.0. I have run the leaked GB with Sense 3 and it is no great shakes - mostly window dressing with very little added functionality.
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Wait, what???
I'm sorry, but having the Quick Settings in the task bar pull down, the last used apps in there, too, a better lock screen system, better apk management, more options, etc, etc, is NOT just window dressing

HipKat said:
Wait, what???
I'm sorry, but having the Quick Settings in the task bar pull down, the last used apps in there, too, a better lock screen system, better apk management, more options, etc, etc, is NOT just window dressing
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No, that's also not exclusively Sense 3.0, which is what he was talking about. that can be seen in Sense 2.1 Which actually runs very nice on the EVO.
I've tried both Virus B1.1.3 (Sense 3.) and MikG 1.01 and 1.02 (Sense 2.1 + 3)
Here is my experience.
Virus's Revolution B1.1 and up REQUIRES SD Partition. flashing the ROM will WIPE THE SD CARD, it states it right on the tutorial. "Back up yo ****, this is deletin' yall!!" (Paraphrasing.)
After doing everything, backing up SD, partitioning card, converting partition, installing ROM. it is VERY pretty, the carousel effect is hypnotizing. But it just wasn't stable enough and wasn't fast enough for my liking. Apps frequently crashed and the Rosie kept needing to restart because it was too big to sit in the Memory. I even did all the tricks to try and keep it from having to do that.
MikG 1.02 is pretty quick, not the fastest ROM I've ever used, but in terms of other Sense roms, it's right up there with the rest of them. Really, the only thing I can see that is missing from the pure Sense 3 variant is the carouselling Homescreen and huge updated Weather widget. the Weather app that opens looks like Sense 3 though, which is odd, because in Virus's it's Sense 1 or 2.