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Sprint Vogue PRL Question

Sprint Vogue PRL Question
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My wife and I live out in the rural country but we have had a pair of old Sanyo MM-8300 phones for ever and they do nothing except make calls. We have them set to "roaming mode only" because we are out of the Sprint network at our home. But to the credit of these old phones, they get better phone reception than any CDMA or GSM phone on the market old or new (I have tested plenty of phones with alltel, sprint, verizon, and at&t). Anyway, the PRL (preferred roaming list) is periodically updated by Sprint. We've been told that the PRL tells the phone which cell towers to use (according to agreements with other carriers, traffic on the tower, and other conditions).
Well, we just recently bought two new phones, Sprint Vogues for 19.95 each (yes older than the some of the newer stuff out there, but the price was hard to say no to). However, when I am sitting in my basement office, the new HTC Vogues get 0 to 1 bars in signal strength, while the Sanyos boast 4 to 5 bars almost always. Using the *2 feature, i noticed the provider service that the Sanyos are locking onto is the US Cellular tower about 3 miles south of me (the PRL in the Sanyos has not been updated for about 2 years). The new Vogues (and other newer phones I have tried in my home) are locking onto an Alltel tower about 8 miles northwest of me.
My question is this: Is there any way for me to customize my own PRL for the Vogues so that I can get them to pick up on the closer US Cellular tower? I tried the possibility of taking the Vogue to a Sprint store and having them back date the PRL to the oldest one they had on file but that did not help so I had them put a later one back into the phone.
Thanks for any help anyone can offer to point me in the right direction.

Update: I was about ready to take the phone back, but I received some expert help from the folks over at PPCHaven.com and loaded the same PRL that I had on my Sanyo phone into the Vogue phone and Wow! Now the Vogue is getting 3-4 bars consistently and sometimes 5 bars in the basement of my rural home. Didn't know this was possible, but I am one happy Vogue owner.

New PRL version

Just did a quick *228 cos I saw someone in the Eris Section saying they got it.
Well what do ya know. it went from 518.. something to 52011. Upstate New York. No idea what PRL Version is or what this means. I think it has to do with the romeing towers or something?

ACD168 said:
Just did a quick *228 cos I saw someone in the Eris Section saying they got it.
Well what do ya know. it went from 518.. something to 52011. Upstate New York. No idea what PRL Version is or what this means. I think it has to do with the romeing towers or something?
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Yep looks like a new PRL as I just tried it and got the same version you just did.

found a cool site too
http://www.roamingzone.com/prl/#Verizon

db's lower for me
boomertwo said:
Yep looks like a new PRL as I just tried it and got the same version you just did.
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Tried this, went from -86 to -92. Fewer bars too, although those don't really mean anything for this or otherwise. I switched back to 65144, db's went back up. Who knew?

In your case it looks like Verizon removed access to some towers that were near you that gave you better signal strength.

Verizon/Alltel Hybrid PRLs may stop working soon
*228 got me 52011 here too. But I originally had a Verizon/Alltel Hybrid PRL (65024) that was working absolutely great (4 bars!) until a few days ago. I live in a fringe area for Verizon. But there is an Alltel tower about 1/2 mile away. Unfortunately (for me), I just read that Verizon who in 2009 acquired Alltel, has recently unloaded Alltel, or at least a good chunk of it. The company that bought Alltel is called Atlantic Tele-Network, Inc. Or ATN. This probably explains why my Alltel Hybrid PRL no longer gives me great reception. I'm back to 0 to 1 bars now. When I did the *228/2 today I had my fingers crossed...but it didn't help. Still 0 to 1 bar, and dropping calls again...

How can I check which prl I'm running. I have been having great reception so prob won't mess with anything, but curious how to check. Thanks

settings, about phone, software info. scroll down, PRL Version, right unders PRI

Details on Sprint PRL's 60678 and 1115

Here is the lehman terms about the PRL's. People who are on individual accounts will be receiving PRL 60678. It will not have 3G Data Roaming enabled.
Business and corperate accounts will be receiving custom PRL 1115, which does enable 3G Data Roaming in the six states listed below.
For all the details please read the attached files. You didn't get these from me
My FAQ for You:
1. No Samsung device has received a new PRL since 60676. We haven't received any notice of why or when Samsung devices will receve the new PRLs.
2. 60677 had numerous problems. All throughout Florida people were reportedly not getting any data at all while roaming, let alone 3G Data while roaming. So 60678 was pushed out to fix the issue, but it disabled 3G Data roaming for the time being. It may be enabled later on down the road.
3. Manually changing you PRL will not break your phone...but expect your PRL to switch back as your phone does a daily check for updates to the PRL. That is why alot of the community was switched back to 60676 after manually updating to 60677.
4. If you get any type of corperate discount on your account, you will receive the 1115 PRL.
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National & Custom PRLs Available for FL, MI, OH, WVA, & WI
Sprint has released Custom PRL 1115 and National PRL ending xxx78 that will impact subscribers who roam in these states.
Custom EVDO PRL 1115 – Provides Business IL and CL subscribers with continued 3G/Mobile Broadband roaming services.
Consumer accounts in these states will experience a loss of 3G/Mobile Broadband roaming services. Refer to PRL Newsflash (xxx78).
Delivery of this Custom PRL is dependent on eligible Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) Phones/PDAs and Mobile Broadband devices.
Devices not eligible to receive the Custom PRL will receive the National PRL and won’t have 3G/Mobile Broadband roaming in these areas.
National PRLs (10078/50578, 20278/60678 and 60778) - Removes 3G/Mobile Broadband roaming coverage for all consumer accounts with push capable phones/PDAs and Mobile Broadband devices.
This coverage was previously enabled with PRL xxx77 and is now being removed since it didn’t provide the expected on-network capacity relief.
In an effort to strike the right balance between customer experience and roaming cost of service, the 3G roaming coverage will no longer be available for consumers but available to Business customers via Custom PRL 1115.
Consumers receiving these National PRLs will still have 1xRTT data roaming service available in the impacted states.
Sprint will begin proactively pushing the PRL to subscribers with in these locations first, then to the entire base. Subscribers with Mobile Broadband devices have to accept the PRL update prompt via SMARTview to receive this release.

Hmm so no roaming and 3g for me
Weird cause the 60677 had it and they pulled it, hopefully we will get it back, btw what if u got a hold of the 1115 prl and tried putting it on the personal phone? Will it break it? lol

davidrules7778 said:
Hmm so no roaming and 3g for me
Weird cause the 60677 had it and they pulled it, hopefully we will get it back, btw what if u got a hold of the 1115 prl and tried putting it on the personal phone? Will it break it? lol
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Let me answer a few things first:
1. No Samsung device has received a new PRL since 60676. We haven't received any notice of why or when Samsung devices will receve the new PRLs.
2. 60677 had numerous problems. All throughout Florida people were reportedly not getting any data at all while roaming, let alone 3G Data while roaming. So 60678 was pushed out to fix the issue, but it disabled 3G Data roaming for the time being. It may be enabled later on down the road.
3. Manually changing you PRL will not break your phone...but expect your PRL to switch back as your phone does a daily check for updates to the PRL. That is why alot of the community was switched back to 60676 after manually updating to 60677.
4. If you get any type of corperate discount on your account, you will receive the 1115 PRL.

Whosdaman said:
Let me answer a few things first:
1. No Samsung device has received a new PRL since 60676. We haven't received any notice of why or when Samsung devices will receve the new PRLs.
2. 60677 had numerous problems. All throughout Florida people were reportedly not getting any data at all while roaming, let alone 3G Data while roaming. So 60678 was pushed out to fix the issue, but it disabled 3G Data roaming for the time being. It may be enabled later on down the road.
3. Manually changing you PRL will not break your phone...but expect your PRL to switch back as your phone does a daily check for updates to the PRL. That is why alot of the community was switched back to 60676 after manually updating to 60677.
4. If you get any type of corperate discount on your account, you will receive the 1115 PRL.
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Why thank u for the answers, i know it will be pushed back as it happened to me after i did it manually, i was wondering if somehow the 1115 prl got posted could i update it that, in the only risk being its going to get pushed back?
BTW ill hit thanks for u when i get to a computer with the thanks button

davidrules7778 said:
Why thank u for the answers, i know it will be pushed back as it happened to me after i did it manually, i was wondering if somehow the 1115 prl got posted could i update it that, in the only risk being its going to get pushed back?
BTW ill hit thanks for u when i get to a computer with the thanks button
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Yes the only rish is that it will be pushed back. Nothing else.
And you're very welcome
(I'm thinking about manually updating to 1115 for the time being.)

I manually updated mine to 1115.
I'm assuming they wont be able to roll it back on Epics like mine that have the DATA & PRL update "internal/unknown error" issue, that still isnt resolved. Mine has been sitting on 60677 since I manually updated it when it came out. (No choice, since the automatic update doesnt work.)
May be it's different on other people's though.

darkfire79 said:
I manually updated mine to 1115.
I'm assuming they wont be able to roll it back on Epics like mine that have the DATA & PRL update "internal/unknown error" issue, that still isnt resolved. Mine has been sitting on 60677 since I manually updated it when it came out. (No choice, since the automatic update doesnt work.)
May be it's different on other people's though.
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Have you tried it recently? Mine started working last week. And that doesn't stop them from pushing a different PRL to your phone. Mine got pushed back while still getting the error.

darkfire79 said:
I manually updated mine to 1115.
I'm assuming they wont be able to roll it back on Epics like mine that have the DATA & PRL update "internal/unknown error" issue, that still isnt resolved. Mine has been sitting on 60677 since I manually updated it when it came out. (No choice, since the automatic update doesnt work.)
May be it's different on other people's though.
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What kenny said, mine was broken after going to eco5 on my old phone and it still got pushed back and still didnt update, new phone updates tho
i might manually update, if people report that it helps a lot?

I get a 28% corporate discount and live in California. So will I get the new prl or only when I jet into one of the affected areas?
Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3

Thanks for the info! Is it possible to manually update then freeze the update process in titanium to prevent the roll back?

Can someone post a link to the 1115 PRL so we can try. Thanks.

kennyglass123 said:
Can someone post a link to the 1115 PRL so we can try. Thanks.
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Thanks.......

Why would I get 1115 on one phone and 60676 on the other
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darkfire79 said:
I manually updated mine to 1115.
I'm assuming they wont be able to roll it back on Epics like mine that have the DATA & PRL update "internal/unknown error" issue, that still isnt resolved. Mine has been sitting on 60677 since I manually updated it when it came out. (No choice, since the automatic update doesnt work.)
May be it's different on other people's though.
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An RTN reset will fix those issues. I solved that internal error on my own at my store. My phone does it perfect everytime now.
Top Nurse said:
I get a 28% corporate discount and live in California. So will I get the new prl or only when I jet into one of the affected areas?
Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3
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You will receive 1115, but California isn't effected. You can read everything in the attached documents in the first post.
rgregg504 said:
Why would I get 1115 on one phone and 60676 on the other
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Read post #3

kennyglass123 said:
Can someone post a link to the 1115 PRL so we can try. Thanks.
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Answering myself. I got this from PPCGeeks:
And here is the thread on how to update manually:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898628
And a link to QPST file needed:
http://www.filecrop.com/QPST-2.7-build-323.html

01117 was also released to folks in MS..which added 3g from verizon when attached to sprint voice. Not sure why since that area has 3g on the towers except for north MS. It also removes the 3g roaming in FL.
Full analysis and change logs for 60678 and 01115 are up on my site at www.batonrougebroadband.info

I just updated my wifes evo and it got the 1115 prl. I put the 60678 on my epic manually but if I try updating through the phone will I also get the 1115 or not for samsung no matter what?
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digiblur said:
01117 was also released to folks in MS..which added 3g from verizon when attached to sprint voice. Not sure why since that area has 3g on the towers except for north MS. It also removes the 3g roaming in FL.
Full analysis and change logs for 60678 and 01115 are up on my site at www.batonrougebroadband.info
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1115 is the latest, there is no 1117 yet...at least my managers EVO never received it.
evohog said:
I just updated my wifes evo and it got the 1115 prl. I put the 60678 on my epic manually but if I try updating through the phone will I also get the 1115 or not for samsung no matter what?
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1115 is the one you want. That is the one that enables 3G Data Roaming

I believe the 01117 was only sent to folks in southern MS. Not much of a difference between 01115 and 60678 except for the FL 3g roaming.

darkfire79 said:
I manually updated mine to 1115.
I'm assuming they wont be able to roll it back on Epics like mine that have the DATA & PRL update "internal/unknown error" issue, that still isnt resolved. Mine has been sitting on 60677 since I manually updated it when it came out. (No choice, since the automatic update doesnt work.)
May be it's different on other people's though.
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It wont, definately not if your running custom roms. This release has been out for about a month in these states already, and also if you call and ask for them to refresh on their end, be prepared to get framework forcecloses, not reccomended!
also for Top Nurse
I get a 28% corporate discount and live in California. So will I get the new prl or only when I jet into one of the affected areas?
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You wont need it, unless you travel to one of the affected states & Yes you can update while there as you are under a Heirarchy as an account type/ Corporate - Sub type/Individual, also to everyone else, if you are a BCS/Premier or Business/General Business or Public Sector account you too will get this - even if you dont receive a discout
BTW, This is not a Sprint error, rather a problem caused by higher Gods in the wireless world.

Prl 01115

Prl auto upadated to 01115. Atlanta
Sent from my EVO from a super secret place

Ran update, worked out here in california. Thanks
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I remember hearing about this prl update about a month ago but can't get it.
Its weird my brothers epic has 60676.
My Evo and moms epic have 60677.
Hmm

got that about a month ago in Philly

Thanks, anyone notice anything new from it?

Original thread regarding 01115 from about a month ago. Over 400 replys. You can get more info from that thread.

mattykinsx said:
I remember hearing about this prl update about a month ago but can't get it.
Its weird my brothers epic has 60676.
My Evo and moms epic have 60677.
Hmm
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really have had it for few weeks in ohio not to far from you

Sticking with 60678 til we get more info on 01115 throttling

aph said:
Sticking with 60678 til we get more info on 01115 throttling
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PRLs don't throttle. PRLs tell the phones in which markets they are to roam over to other services when home service isn't available, and what bands to use for home and roaming services. THAT IS IT THAT IS ALL.
PRLs do not set speeds, increase speeds, decrease speeds. If you think you get better speed because you updated your PRL, you are going to be wrong 99.9% of the time. If you think you get worse speed because you updated your PRL, you are going to be wrong 99.9% of the time.
Plain and simple.

I figured I should chime in here. I was on the 78 PRL, until I got my Airave. As soon as it was added to my account, I updated both my EVO, and fiancee's Hero. Both updated to 01115. Not sure if it's related, but could quite possibly be. Dunno

ZachPA said:
PRLs don't throttle. PRLs tell the phones in which markets they are to roam over to other services when home service isn't available, and what bands to use for home and roaming services. THAT IS IT THAT IS ALL.
PRLs do not set speeds, increase speeds, decrease speeds. If you think you get better speed because you updated your PRL, you are going to be wrong 99.9% of the time. If you think you get worse speed because you updated your PRL, you are going to be wrong 99.9% of the time.
Plain and simple.
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I sit here and literally shake my head when I see people post about data speeds, etc after a PRL update.....

Hello,
I don't get into the custom ROMS, I rooted so that I could perform titanium backups back in January with unrevoked 3.
At that time I had
PRI = 1.77_003
PRL 60671
I have not had any issues with the evo, nor have I performed any updates.
I was curious as to how many versions have went by so I looked at Settings > About Phone > Software Information and the
PRI = 1.77_003
**** PRL = 01115 ****
I thought that updating a prl would unroot a phone.
I didnt think that the prl was an automagic update?
Did I miss a setting?
Has anyone else had this happen.?
I dont notice anything different on the evo...
comments?
Thanks for your time
qu1nn

LancerEVA06 said:
I figured I should chime in here. I was on the 78 PRL, until I got my Airave. As soon as it was added to my account, I updated both my EVO, and fiancee's Hero. Both updated to 01115. Not sure if it's related, but could quite possibly be. Dunno
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From what I have read, not all users will receive the 01115 PRL . . . depends on individual acct "type" . . . my understanding is that people that have "corporate related" accounts, ie, employees of GM, etc, that receive discounts thru their employer affiliation, get PRL 01115 . . . others get PRL 60678 for an update . . . supposedly a difference in towers being provided thru the two PRLs because of recent reduced national coverage . . . guess Sprint is maybe taking care of the "big boys" first??

SteveGrandRapids said:
From what I have read, not all users will receive the 01115 PRL . . . depends on individual acct "type" . . . my understanding is that people that have "corporate related" accounts, ie, employees of GM, etc, that receive discounts thru their employer affiliation, get PRL 01115 . . . others get PRL 60678 for an update . . . supposedly a difference in towers being provided thru the two PRLs because of recent reduced national coverage . . . guess Sprint is maybe taking care of the "big boys" first??
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You are wrong!! I am a simple employ with 4 lines in my account for 7 years and I have the 01115 in all my phones, so that is not the reason.

My wife's evo has that new prl. I'm still on the older one. Is it worth going back to sense to update or not worth it?

mrjaydee82 said:
My wife's evo has that new prl. I'm still on the older one. Is it worth going back to sense to update or not worth it?
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With the 01115 I have 3G when I am roaming and that is big plus! I use roam most of the times bc Sprint 3G in my town is way too slow slow slow.
Sent from my EVO Cannibal! !!

sprint down again?

i live and work in Delphi Indiana, about 30 mind north east of Purdue and i have noticed today that i do not have any data and i am roaming in my city. normally i have excellant 3g speeds and good voice.
I havent called anyone due to not wanting to talk to "bob" over in india, inuit has been having issues today as well so i just gt off the phone with "amy", from india as well, so i have my crappy tech support quota in the the day.
i figured there is some kind of outage, i skimmed the first 2 pages of topics and i didnt see anything so here we are.

potna said:
i live and work in Delphi Indiana, about 30 mind north east of Purdue and i have noticed today that i do not have any data and i am roaming in my city. normally i have excellant 3g speeds and good voice.
I havent called anyone due to not wanting to talk to "bob" over in india, inuit has been having issues today as well so i just gt off the phone with "amy", from india as well, so i have my crappy tech support quota in the the day.
i figured there is some kind of outage, i skimmed the first 2 pages of topics and i didnt see anything so here we are.
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I was having 3g drop out for me before. Not total data coverage, but 3g. However, it seems to be back now. I'm in SW Ohio.

the only way to find out if there is an outage is to call sprint and ask

I am just out side of dallas texas and a few poeple are having issues around here as well.

I called sprint twice, they said its not their fault and here is the list of excuses in the order in which they gave them to me:
1 my phone is the problem, or something i did to it
2 interference from my building (despite no change when i step outside)
3 other carriers interference
4 user error
the tech person had me open my browser and try to load a page and of course it didnt load, then she had me turn on wifi and try the same page and of course it worked and she tried to say "its fixed now" "is there anything else i can do for you?" i laughed and said my wlan is not the issue i am calling about! what a joke!!
but they assured me nothing is wrong with their network and that i need to take my phone to a sprint store to have it checked out
interesting details:
1 other people with sprint in my area are having issues too, but most people dont care enough to call
2 when i drive away from my small town i start to get signal, i stop roaming, i can make and receive calls, i have good 3g.
3 when i drive back into my small city i start roaming and i loose all data
4 i always have had excellent voice and data in my small town
i believe there is a problem with the tower in my area but they want me to to drive 30 mins to have someone look at my phone. i can drive 5 mins out of my town hop on the next tower and my phone is fine.the badd thing is as soon as i get on a working tower its fine, so when i drive to the sprint store they are going to realize my phone is fine.
apparently the issue is limited to the tower in my area and apparently no one else has bothered to complain about it so i get to just deal with with.
i post in this thread to maybe help someone in the future and personal log sheet.

Actually I get about 3 to 4 bars in my house normally and lately i was having issues of getting no 3g or data and loosing all bars but still registering and not giving me the x of no signal. My phone has also been switching to roaming all lot (roaming btw gives me like 1x speeds never 3g speeds even though it says i have it on my mikG rom)
So I think the issue is in a few small towns and that they are fiddling with something.

Probbaly updating the tower .
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i don't want to keep this thread alive but i thought i should say that i called sprint back today and i told the tech if they expected me to leave my work to go have some one look at my phone i will instead travel to a store to cancel my service. i hate being a hard a$$ but i dont have time for other peoples problems when i pay them to deliver.
anyways, this tech was cool, nice, and helpful. he sent something to my phone and it fixed it!! i asked him what he did and he didnt seem to really know precisely what he was doing either. im guessing he was just following a flow chart but he did share some inside info about towers with me.
bottom line is my service is working so i will stop crying now!!

today has been nothing but terrible. im from florida