Ok, so I held Vol-Down and I see the following:
Code:
GLACIER PVT SHIP [B]S-ON[/B]
HBOOT-0.89.0005
MICROP-0429
RADIO-26.09-04-26_,
eMMC-boot
APR 14 2011,13:18:22
HBOOT
[COLOR=ORANGE]<VOL UP> to previous item
<VOL DOWN> to next item
<POWER> to select item
FAST BOOT
RECOVERY
FACTORY RESET
SIMLOCK
IMAGE CRC
Will I ever be able to root my phone, or run custom roms?
_Allan_ said:
Ok, so I held Vol-Down and I see the following:
Code:
GLACIER PVT SHIP [B]S-ON[/B]
HBOOT-0.89.0005
MICROP-0429
RADIO-26.09-04-26_,
eMMC-boot
APR 14 2011,13:18:22
HBOOT
[COLOR=ORANGE]<VOL UP> to previous item
<VOL DOWN> to next item
<POWER> to select item
FASTB OOT
RECOVERY
FACTORY RESET
SIMLOCK
IMAGE CRC
Will I ever be able to root my phone, or run custom roms?
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Why wouldn't u?
esincho said:
Why wouldn't u?
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Allow me to rephrase - without connecting to my computer, will I be able to root my phone?
_Allan_ said:
Allow me to rephrase - without connecting to my computer, will I be able to root my phone?
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Go to the development section. There's guides to do it with terminal from your phone
Having the newest bootloader, I'm not sure gfree works "as is".
Also, since you have Gingerbread, Visionary won't root you. You should try Gingerbreak.
Will you ever be able to root? Of course. I'm not sure about now.
esincho said:
Go to the development section. There's guides to do it with terminal from your phone
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Can you link? Thanks!
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Can you link? Thanks!
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Follow this process step by step.
There are many other ways to root, but this is the best one in my opinion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
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People here seem not to read quite well. So they're probably missing the most important info in your OP:
HBOOT-0.89.0005
In addition to not being the standard bootloader that all the guides are written for, that also brings the assumption that you're running Gingerbread.
Gfree method, as other perm-root methods, were meant to work under temp-root, and on HBOOT 0.86.0000. Yours, on other hand, might not achieve temp-root easily (Visionary+ doesn't work on Gingerbread, you need to try Gingerbreak, as I've suggested), or not at all (if Gingerbreak won't work). And in addition to that, Gfree might not work for your bootloader version (not sure - this one also needs to be checked).
But that doesn't stop people from pointing you to the wrong guides that don't apply to your phone.
Thus, if I were you, I'd develop strong skills for selective reading.
Jack_R1 said:
People here seem not to read quite well. So they're probably missing the most important info in your OP:
HBOOT-0.89.0005
In addition to not being the standard bootloader that all the guides are written for, that also brings the assumption that you're running Gingerbread.
Gfree method, as other perm-root methods, were meant to work under temp-root, and on HBOOT 0.86.0000. Yours, on other hand, might not achieve temp-root easily (Visionary+ doesn't work on Gingerbread, you need to try Gingerbreak, as I've suggested), or not at all (if Gingerbreak won't work). And in addition to that, Gfree might not work for your bootloader version (not sure - this one also needs to be checked).
But that doesn't stop people from pointing you to the wrong guides that don't apply to your phone.
Thus, if I were you, I'd develop strong skills for selective reading.
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Enlarged for emphasis and in hopes people will see it more clearly... instead of just skimming and missing the 5 at the end.
Thank you for the help, I'll try Gingerbreak.
Gingerbreak failed as well.
Jack, yeah, I'm running 2.3.3.
Jack, I'm running 2.3.3 Gingerbread, and
Gingerbreak didn't work,
Visionary didn't work.
GFree didn't work.
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Enlarged for emphasis and in hopes people will see it more clearly... instead of just skimming and missing the 5 at the end.
Thank you for the help, I'll try Gingerbreak.
Gingerbreak failed as well.
Jack, yeah, I'm running 2.3.3.
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+1, got a kick out of the resonses that overlooked the original concern.
wow, this thread needs to be watched, and hopefully scotty2 or grankin01 or guhle99 can maybe point the folks with this new bootloader to an updated version of gfree or rather, visionary to at least temproot
also, it begs the question- is this a game changer for rooting the mt4g if all new units in june2011 - on will now have the 089 bootloader instead of 086. with grankin gone, and no visionary updates for some time, what's left to use?
lastly, with HTC announcing no locked bootloaders, will that affect new builds of the existing mt4g, where we won't need to root it at all? that it will come with some open way to achieve superuser status that doesn't require vis/gfree....
and even more lastly, I wonder when that will be rolled out-- will some near-future version of this OP's phone with HB089 come unlocked as the HTC press release seemed to indicate?
acsi007 said:
also, it begs the question- is this a game changer for rooting the mt4g if all new units in june2011 - on will now have the 089 bootloader instead of 086. with grankin gone, and no visionary updates for some time, what's left to use?
lastly, with HTC announcing no locked bootloaders, will that affect new builds of the existing mt4g, where we won't need to root it at all? that it will come with some open way to achieve superuser status that doesn't require vis/gfree....
and even more lastly, I wonder when that will be rolled out-- will some near-future version of this OP's phone with HB089 come unlocked as the HTC press release seemed to indicate?
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APR 14 2011,13:18:22 from my original post... the bootloader was compiled April 14 2011... so a few weeks before I got the phone.
_Allan_ said:
Jack, I'm running 2.3.3 Gingerbread, and
Gingerbreak didn't work,
Visionary didn't work.
GFree didn't work.
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As I've pointed, GFree needs root privileges to to work, which means - it needs temp-root. For Froyo, temp-root (temporary root privileges that don't stick after reboot) were provided by Visionary/Z4root/SuperOneClick(using rageagainstthecage/psneuter methods), but none of them work for Gingerbread. Gingerbreak sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. If you leave it for 10 min to work and it didn't - then it can't temp-root your device, and you need to wait for another, working temp-root method. Without temp-root, GFree won't work, and you won't be able to achieve r/w access to the system (which allows perm-root).
Just got a replacement phone and I'm in the same boat. Anyone find a solution for the 0.89.0005 version?
Yes if you are on official 2.3.4, you can now get root. Not straight forward though. Search for G2 method
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Try running Gingerbreak or fre3vo for temp-root, and hopefully Gfree will patch the security flag in any case.
Also, you can force downgrade the OS to 2.2.1 - please look for a thread that explains how to do it.
0.89.0000 this is my H boot is this rootable
The date at the bottom of mine is
Sep 27 2010
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16167597&postcount=18
as posted above, you gotta downgrade to 2.2.1 then re-do the 2.3.4 with the pre-rooted version
I had to do that and I now have 2.3.4 rooted
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How do I COMPLETELY unroot EVO to send back to Sprint
Like s-off s-on plz help
If you rooted using Unrevoked 3.21 there is a thread listed in Android Development explaining the process as well as the needed links to download the needed zip files to turn S-On and the zip file to restore back to Stock Froyo 2.2
SouthernEvo said:
If you rooted using Unrevoked 3.21 there is a thread listed in Android Development explaining the process as well as the needed links to download the needed zip files to turn S-On and the zip file to restore back to Stock Froyo 2.2
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Tbd but I used toast.method to root that used a lot of adb
mccurt29 said:
Tbd but I used toast.method to root that used a lot of adb
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Ok but there are still methods in the forum for unrooting just like how you rooted. I would just do a search for them and choose which one you feel is the easiest for you to understand. Also if you are getting another EVO unrevoked 3.21 is as many in here have said easy peasy for rooting.
Good luck
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Ok but there are still methods in the forum for unrooting just like how you rooted. I would just do a search for them and choose which one you feel is the easiest for you to understand. Also if you are getting another EVO unrevoked 3.21 is as many in here have said easy peasy for rooting.
Good luck
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Thanks!......
You need to run the RUU.exe found in the Dev section. It will do the trick.
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novanosis85 said:
You need to run the RUU.exe found in the Dev section. It will do the trick.
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Precisely. It can be found here:
*OFFICIAL* RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.29.651.5_Radio_2.15. 00.09.01_NV_1.77_CNV_rel.
One thing to check first: do you have S-OFF? This would be the case if you ever ran Unrevoked Forever or Unrevoked 3.21. If so, you'll need to flash the Unrevoked Forever S-ON tool from recovery before running the RUU.
Noxious Ninja said:
Precisely. It can be found here:
*OFFICIAL* RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.29.651.5_Radio_2.15. 00.09.01_NV_1.77_CNV_rel.
One thing to check first: do you have S-OFF? This would be the case if you ever ran Unrevoked Forever or Unrevoked 3.21. If so, you'll need to flash the Unrevoked Forever S-ON tool from recovery before running the RUU.
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Thx guys I never used unrevok just toast methods but how do u check the A-on thing & should it be on or off
Also this 1 guy on this forum said he used the ruu & had s-on/off but Sprint still found out he rooted so should I wipe that ex--- >#366# stuff too?
mccurt29 said:
Thx guys I never used unrevok just toast methods but how do u check the A-on thing & should it be on or off
Also this 1 guy on this forum said he used the ruu & had s-on/off but Sprint still found out he rooted so should I wipe that ex--- >#366# stuff too?
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Reboot into the bootloader (turn phone off, then hold power+volume down until it comes on). Then look at the end of the first line.
If it says SHIP S-ON, you're good.
If it says SHIP S-OFF, you need to run the Unrevoked tool.
If it says ENG S-OFF (which should be the case if you used Toast's method), it is indeterminate.
However, if you never used Unrevoked at all, you shouldn't have to worry about it. You can check after you run the RUU, which will reset it to the SHIP bootloader.
I believe the 3.29 RUU resets everything, including the PRI. Toast's method downgraded the PRI, and it was difficult to get it back before the current update, so this used to be a sure-fire way of telling whether you had rooted. Unless you had a bad Wimax flash and broke your 4G, I *think* you should be OK. But I don't know for sure.
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Reboot into the bootloader (turn phone off, then hold power+volume down until it comes on). Then look at the end of the first line.
If it says SHIP S-ON, you're good.
If it says SHIP S-OFF, you need to run the Unrevoked tool.
If it says ENG S-OFF (which should be the case if you used Toast's method), it is indeterminate.
However, if you never used Unrevoked at all, you shouldn't have to worry about it. You can check after you run the RUU, which will reset it to the SHIP bootloader.
I believe the 3.29 RUU resets everything, including the PRI. Toast's method downgraded the PRI, and it was difficult to get it back before the current update, so this used to be a sure-fire way of telling whether you had rooted. Unless you had a bad Wimax flash and broke your 4G, I *think* you should be OK. But I don't know for sure.
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thanx that did the trick now to the sprint store tomorrow wish me luck
If your still having trouble then try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141&highlight=unroot
I just unrooted mine last night and it only took me 5 mins, just flash the unrevoked and then do the update on the PC36IMG and thats it.
Ok I got my G2 when it first came out. Used the old rage method to get S-OFF and perma root. Now i'm reading people say that they have "real" S-OFF and real permaroot. Do I have to do the "gfree" method now or is my phone good as it is?
I understand that with gfree you can unlock your SIM and you can switch between S-OFF and S-ON.. I'd like to have those functions. How should I go about it? Do I do a factory reset to go back to stock and unroot and then use gfree method or is there a simpler way to do it?
Here's what I have right now:
Stock rom, I NEVER installed any OTA's.
I have Baconbits.
My baseband is: 12.22.60.09bU_26.02.01.15_M2
Kernel: 2.6.32.21-cyanogenmod [email protected]#1
Build #: 1.19.531.1 CL255798 release-keys
Thanks for all the help.
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
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Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
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PatrickHuey said:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
sent from my V I S I O N.
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See the Wiki for details. Assuming you are running a kernel where gfree works (again, see the Wiki on this), you just need a root shell on your phone, copy gfree to your phone (e.g. via adb push), then run gfree with the appropriate options, e.g. "./gfree -f".
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elracing21 said:
Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
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Using gfree does not get rid of the engineering hboot (or modify your existing hboot in anyway), so it's safe to do. And even if this was not the case, you can still flash the CWM3 recovery without the engineering hboot, only you'll have to use a different method than fastboot.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
thank you
konoplya said:
thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
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Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
steviewevie said:
Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
konoplya said:
ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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Not just gfree on its own, but you will need to go through the steps of getting temp root then perm root, which does use gfree as part of it. It's all in the Wiki.
konoplya said:
ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
dhkr234 said:
gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
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Yeah but gfree is often used as part of the rooting process, so I can see why people associate gfree with rooting.
gfree might be run more than once on a phone as part of the process to lock in root, i.e. to defeat the NAND write protection. Even though it's only needed once to unlock the radio etc, you might run it other times if you need to root a stock ROM and updates to that ROM.
gfree can be used to unlock radio security, but it has other options too. Sorry but I think your reply might confuse more people than it helps.
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Help me please! I tried to find my answer, but i'm not sure.
Can be possible use the update.zip without any modification? Or i need change the hboot?
Thank you!
Janaboy
I'm perm rooted! but I lost the ota update cause I was simi-brick how can I get the OTA update? do I have to to a factory reset?
You should get the OTA right away after restarting the phone, I know I did after going back to stock on just Saturday of this week. The first time I connected to the network it said an update was available and it was the OTA.
that hasnt happen and it need to hurry up!! lol
So do a Factory reset?
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
aok680 said:
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Unlock_the_Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF
Here's the story. Got my original G2, played with it, rooted, s-off, the works. Needed to send it in for a warranty exchange so I unroot, s-on, etc etc, and put gingerbread on it. So I had the pc10img file on my sdcard.
Fast forward, I got my replacement G2, it had Froyo, had it rooted, s-off, the works before the battery was even finished charged (I waited for it to finish before I rebooted of course!) and I loaded up the official MIUI. usb tethering wasn't working so I figured I would download and flash a pershoot kernel! That "bricked" it. Wouldn't boot at all! So I booted it in to recovery (vol down + pwr) forgetting that the official gingerbread pc10img was on the sdcard. I was out and about so I just needed my phone back ASAP, so I went ahead and flashed it. So now I have stock gingerbread, with S-OFF and no way to get root. Is there another pc10img I can flash that is pre-rooted, or am I SOL til someone figures out how to root the latest update?
I'm gonna try gingerbreak after posting since I DO have s-off still...
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Here's the story. Got my original G2, played with it, rooted, s-off, the works. Needed to send it in for a warranty exchange so I unroot, s-on, etc etc, and put gingerbread on it. So I had the pc10img file on my sdcard.
Fast forward, I got my replacement G2, it had Froyo, had it rooted, s-off, the works before the battery was even finished charged (I waited for it to finish before I rebooted of course!) and I loaded up the official MIUI. usb tethering wasn't working so I figured I would download and flash a pershoot kernel! That "bricked" it. Wouldn't boot at all! So I booted it in to recovery (vol down + pwr) forgetting that the official gingerbread pc10img was on the sdcard. I was out and about so I just needed my phone back ASAP, so I went ahead and flashed it. So now I have stock gingerbread, with S-OFF and no way to get root. Is there another pc10img I can flash that is pre-rooted, or am I SOL til someone figures out how to root the latest update?
I'm gonna try gingerbreak after posting since I DO have s-off still...
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To my knowledge there is still no temporary exploit for gingerbread that you would need to gain permanent root, sorry. It looks like you might be sol, but since you do have s-off try some of the other exploits like psneuter or gfree and post back. I would be very intrested if the hboot was somehow responsible for keeping the gingerbread g2's from getting root
Sent from my self-aware G2 w/ PyroMod v2.3.4 & UnNova Theme v1.0
gingerbreak did not work for me. I get this with the psneuter tool
spirit platform-tools # ./adb shell /data/local/tmp/psneuter
Failed to set prot mask (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
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Did you flash the engineering HBOOT during the rooting process?
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Did you flash the engineering HBOOT during the rooting process?
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Good question. I'm not sure actually. But I do know right now that it has an official HBOOT on it. 0.82.0008
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Good question. I'm not sure actually. But I do know right now that it has an official HBOOT on it. 0.82.0008
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I'm unsure if HTCs .zip includes a HBOOT update or not...but can you enter HBOOT (power+vol down) and check if it says SHIP S-OFF or ENG S-OFF?
I think that, since you're S-OFF, you'll be able to apply any PC10IMG.zip since it won't check signatures/versions - can someone correct me on this if I'm wrong?
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I'm unsure if HTCs .zip includes a HBOOT update or not...but can you enter HBOOT (power+vol down) and check if it says SHIP S-OFF or ENG S-OFF?
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It says SHIP S-OFF. And I was also thinking that since it is S-OFF that I could flash a PC10IMG that was already rooted, but seems almost all roms these days are only clockwork flashable.
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SUCCESS!
Back to semi-square one anyway.
I was able to successfully flash the shipped rom as a PC10IMG which I got here (http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision) and I'm going to say that this is most likely because I am radio s-off.
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SUCCESS!
Back to semi-square one anyway.
I was able to successfully flash the shipped rom as a PC10IMG which I got here (http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Vision) and I'm going to say that this is most likely because I am radio s-off.
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It is because u were s-off. That was my configuration also so if I flash that official gb PC10IMG I'm still s-off but unrooted. To reroot I simply flash the 1.19 PC10IMG, let it get the 1.22 OTA if I feel like it then psneuter/gfree it all over again.
PS - to anyone else... don't even bother with gingerbreak for that official gb
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I would put anything with root on it, just to get cwm. Than do as you normally would. As you may know, things are far easier through recovery.
::edit:: you should be able to find a custom built pc10img zip thingy, somewhere on these forums or from someone.
I'm sure you can easily make your own, and it should work.
Goodluck.
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followed some of the guildlines on here about unrooting phone , however it seems no matter what i do S-off will not become S-on, tried the guide to unrooting the automated way, also the Flashing the stock rom way, and the 2.3.4 GB update still stuck with S-off any help would be appreciated
Read saranhai's instructions in this recent thread. Pretty straight-forward and bulletproof.
TeeJay3800 said:
Read saranhai's instructions in this recent thread. Pretty straight-forward and bulletproof.
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haha thanks TeeJay3800
yea, like i said in the other thread, just follow those instructions and you should be able to get s-on again.
If you have Radio S-OFF, then flashing a stock ROM from RUU or PD15IMG.zip will *not* give you S-ON again. There is already a whole thread about how to get back to S-ON.
cmstlist said:
If you have Radio S-OFF, then flashing a stock ROM from RUU or PD15IMG.zip will *not* give you S-ON again. There is already a whole thread about how to get back to S-ON.
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Actually it depends on how you turned s-off. IF you use the root.sh version flashing the PD15IMG will turn "s" back on. If you use ./gfree, flashing the PD15IMG will not turn the "s" back on.
I know, I've done it both ways.
neidlinger said:
Actually it depends on how you turned s-off. IF you use the root.sh version flashing the PD15IMG will turn "s" back on. If you use ./gfree, flashing the PD15IMG will not turn the "s" back on.
I know, I've done it both ways.
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Thank you for the clarification. My understanding is that root.sh does not confer Radio S-OFF but rather fakes it via the ENG HBOOT. Is this a correct assessment?
Ergo if you have true Radio S-OFF (via gfree), then PD15IMG will maintain that S-OFF.
My understanding was that most devs are recommending gfree over root.sh to make things easier to users down the line and reduce the chances of perm-brick. It just means a bit more manual labour.
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Thank you for the clarification. My understanding is that root.sh does not confer Radio S-OFF but rather fakes it via the ENG HBOOT. Is this a correct assessment?
Ergo if you have true Radio S-OFF (via gfree), then PD15IMG will maintain that S-OFF.
My understanding was that most devs are recommending gfree over root.sh to make things easier to users down the line and reduce the chances of perm-brick. It just means a bit more manual labour.
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Basically yes. The root.sh is a faux s-off. It works like s-off but not really turning it off. The ./gfree IIRC removes the flags completely. So said person down the road will not have problems.
However with us having two different eMMC chips. The root.sh will turn off the flags for the good eMMC chips, and will not do anything if you have a bad eMMC chip set. While the ./gfree completely removes them. So if you have a good chip or a problematic chip ./gfree will root both.
Now with that being said it's extremely easy for a bad eMMC chipped phone to become bricked. That is why we are seeing so many "Failed-PU" threads popping up. The Partition Update isn't being handled correctly via the eMMC chip, and bricking the device.
all in all use root.sh to root your phone, if that doesn't work use ./gfree with EXTREME caution.
I got a bad eMMC on my Mobilicity Panache, but I decided to take the gamble anyway. So I cautiously went with gfree. Apparently 80% of the "bad" chips will never fail, so... Rolling the dice here.
Anyway to the OP, there's your answer: it depends on how you rooted it.
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cmstlist said:
I got a bad eMMC on my Mobilicity Panache, but I decided to take the gamble anyway. So I cautiously went with gfree. Apparently 80% of the "bad" chips will never fail, so... Rolling the dice here.
Anyway to the OP, there's your answer: it depends on how you rooted it.
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Hmm guess my old phone was one of the unlucky 20%...
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UPDATE: Topic title should read 'unlocked'.
Had to start another topic for this. Just recently got my DZ but it came with android 2.3.3 so I thought 'bugger' and thought I would need to downgrade. I bought my phone 'factory unlocked' which I assumed just meant network unlocked.
BUT, I've just booted into the bootloader and it says I'm S-OFF. Does this mean it's a real S-OFF or similar to the engineering HBOOT S-OFF?
Would there be any way to root it without downgrading/custom rom do you think?
Anyone more experienced shed some light?
if it says SHIP S-OFF then you should have true s-off.
In which case getting perm root is simple, follow this guide, but only run the 'Gaining Temp Root' and '
Temp-Rooting to Backup' sections.
This should stick with a reboot, so you will have perm-root.
-Nipqer
Brilliant! This will definitely work even on the stock rom won't it? I only want root for setcpu for underclocking.
Gonna charge it up and give it a shot. Does my hboot version or anything else matter before I try this?
Just for info it says this in bootloader:
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.85.0013
MICROP-0425
RADIO-26.10.04.03_M
eMMC-boot
Apr 11 2011,23:36:27
Thanks.
Well I went ahead and tried it and it worked great, I now have root!
I have noticed however that setcpu doesn't appear to allow underclocking with the stock rom. I thought maybe that would be ok. When I move the sliders, nothing changes.
Now that I'm rooted with S-OFF on gingerbread, can I install custom kernels?
If you install rom manager you can install clockworkmod recovery, and install a new rom/kernel through that.
-Nipqer
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Good stuff, you answered my next question which was how to get clockworkmod on.
Many Thanks.